Re: Bartonella and chest pain

[Guest guest]

,

My son, 11, began having severe chest pain a month ago. Scared me out

of my wits. Before taking him to a cardiologist I upped his magnesium

and the pains disappeared in 24 hours. I know your daughter is probably

already on magnesium but just wanted to share my experience. My

experience with this disease has taught me that many symptoms are not

directly related to the pathogens but are rather either deficiency

symptoms or allergy symptoms.

A top lyme doc in FL told me my son's severe drenching night sweats

were due to babesia. But they stopped cold turkey the night we set foot

in Arizona and have not returned. Did the babesia know we were in

Arizona? My son's labs are neg. for babesia but that doesn't mean he

doesn't have babesia. I believe it was mold and not babesia causing

this problem. He would soak the sheets down to the mattress. Now that

is gone since arriving in a dry climate. I thought his severe

colon/eye/migraine pain was due to the lyme and co-infections but they

completely disappeared with Tanalbit and have remained gone.

But I do acknowledge that these pathogens can cause serious heart

trouble and damage...however I wanted to share my experience with my

son.

Take care,

Suzan

>

> We have a ten year old who is taking resveratrol one cap, cod liver

> oil, probiotics, lycine, and curcumin.

>

> We have not read the buhner book. She is having chest pain, fairly

> severe that is off and on.

>

> I have read that Bartonella does effect the heart and wonder which

> herb you give for this if this is the case.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

One thought on reading this: maybe the mold was taxing the immune system and

with that gone, it's easier to fight off other stuff? - Robin

In a message dated 2/26/2009 6:33:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

mgyer@... writes:

,

My son, 11, began having severe chest pain a month ago. Scared me out

of my wits. Before taking him to a cardiologist I upped his magnesium

and the pains disappeared in 24 hours. I know your daughter is probably

already on magnesium but just wanted to share my experience. My

experience with this disease has taught me that many symptoms are not

directly related to the pathogens but are rather either deficiency

symptoms or allergy symptoms.

A top lyme doc in FL told me my son's severe drenching night sweats

were due to babesia. But they stopped cold turkey the night we set foot

in Arizona and have not returned. Did the babesia know we were in

Arizona? My son's labs are neg. for babesia but that doesn't mean he

doesn't have babesia. I believe it was mold and not babesia causing

this problem. He would soak the sheets down to the mattress. Now that

is gone since arriving in a dry climate. I thought his severe

colon/eye/migraine pain was due to the lyme and co-infections but they

completely disappeared with Tanalbit and have remained gone.

But I do acknowledge that these pathogens can cause serious heart

trouble and damage...however I wanted to share my experience with my

son.

Take care,

Suzan

>

> We have a ten year old who is taking resveratrol one cap, cod liver

> oil, probiotics, lycine, and curcumin.

>

> We have not read the buhner book. She is having chest pain, fairly

> severe that is off and on.

>

> I have read that Bartonella does effect the heart and wonder which

> herb you give for this if this is the case.

>

>

>

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Once we left the moldy climate and arrived in arizona he improved

exponentially but then.....four months later all hell broke loose

with a severe vomiting episode lasting 18 hours. He recovered for one

week and then one day soon thereafter lost the ability to eat

anything. It took me five more months to figure out he had

lyme/bartonella.

While I have been able to get rid of the night sweats with a new dry

climate, the colon/eye/migraine pains are gone with

Tanalbit.......the heart pains are gone with magnesium, the spinal

back pains are much reduced with 3,000 mg of ester c per day, the

floaters and light sensitivity are decreasing with

Lumbrokinase......but the chronic intractable nausea remains with an

increasingly compromised toxified liver/gallbladder. The ice pick

pains are also still there but not every day like they used to be.

The severe motion sickness also remains and those two symptoms are

paramount to destroying a child's quality of life.

All labs are in and we are moving into treatment mode. My son's low

bp and hypoglycemia make many of the buhner/cowden/klinghardt herbs

prohibitive, not to mention the phytoestrogenic properties of some,

and so we are going to use what he can take and go from

there....frequency treatments (rife?/KMT24) in addition IV vitamin C

to neutralize toxins (this can also cause lowered bp and hypoglycemia

so I've asked our doc to go slow-slow). But the gallbladder/liver are

first and we've been struggling with the two Sisters for months.

But Robin, even though I did not know he had Lyme Disease when we

arrived in Arizona, I agree that getting rid of the mold is paramount

to healing in any situation whatever the condition. I agree with you

100%. If the mold is not removed, healing will not be achieved.

Klinghardt says " mold unveils the lyme " and I can tell you it sure

did for my son. It harmed him so terribly. Once we arrived in arizona

there was this sort of honeymoon period but the severe colon pains

and eye pains and migraines began again with two months and the

occasional heartburn then became a daily affair and then WHAM! It was

as if a bomb went off. Rosner describes Lyme in this way. It

was progressing I just didn't know what is was that was progressing.

I am devastated by the diagnosis but grateful to " know " . Grateful to

have this demon identified.

Suzan

>

> One thought on reading this: maybe the mold was taxing the immune

system and

> with that gone, it's easier to fight off other stuff? - Robin

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am reading in the *Complete Candida Yeast Guidebook* that magnesium is

" nature's calcium channel blocker. " It can do for heart problems what

prescription meds do, according to the book. At higher doses, it should be

balanced with calcium and potassium.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:00 PM, yunaraven22 <mgyer@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> My son, 11, began having severe chest pain a month ago. Scared me out

> of my wits. Before taking him to a cardiologist I upped his magnesium

> and the pains disappeared in 24 hours. I know your daughter is probably

> already on magnesium but just wanted to share my experience. My

> experience with this disease has taught me that many symptoms are not

> directly related to the pathogens but are rather either deficiency

> symptoms or allergy symptoms.

>

> A top lyme doc in FL told me my son's severe drenching night sweats

> were due to babesia. But they stopped cold turkey the night we set foot

> in Arizona and have not returned. Did the babesia know we were in

> Arizona? My son's labs are neg. for babesia but that doesn't mean he

> doesn't have babesia. I believe it was mold and not babesia causing

> this problem. He would soak the sheets down to the mattress. Now that

> is gone since arriving in a dry climate. I thought his severe

> colon/eye/migraine pain was due to the lyme and co-infections but they

> completely disappeared with Tanalbit and have remained gone.

>

> But I do acknowledge that these pathogens can cause serious heart

> trouble and damage...however I wanted to share my experience with my

> son.

>

> Take care,

> Suzan

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/26/2009 11:15:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

mgyer@... writes:

Once we left the moldy climate and arrived in arizona he improved

exponentially but then.....four months later all hell broke loose

with a severe vomiting episode lasting 18 hours. He recovered for one

week and then one day soon thereafter lost the ability to eat

anything. It took me five more months to figure out he had

lyme/bartonella.

While I have been able to get rid of the night sweats with a new dry

climate, the colon/eye/migraine pains are gone with

Tanalbit.......the heart pains are gone with magnesium, the spinal

back pains are much reduced with 3,000 mg of ester c per day, the

floaters and light sensitivity are decreasing with

Lumbrokinase......but the chronic intractable nausea remains with an

increasingly compromised toxified liver/gallbladder. The ice pick

pains are also still there but not every day like they used to be.

The severe motion sickness also remains and those two symptoms are

paramount to destroying a child's quality of life.

All labs are in and we are moving into treatment mode. My son's low

bp and hypoglycemia make many of the buhner/cowden/klinghardt herbs

prohibitive, not to mention the phytoestrogenic properties of some,

and so we are going to use what he can take and go from

there....frequency treatments (rife?/KMT24) in addition IV vitamin C

to neutralize toxins (this can also cause lowered bp and hypoglycemia

so I've asked our doc to go slow-slow). But the gallbladder/liver are

first and we've been struggling with the two Sisters for months.

But Robin, even though I did not know he had Lyme Disease when we

arrived in Arizona, I agree that getting rid of the mold is paramount

to healing in any situation whatever the condition. I agree with you

100%. If the mold is not removed, healing will not be achieved.

Klinghardt says " mold unveils the lyme " and I can tell you it sure

did for my son. It harmed him so terribly. Once we arrived in arizona

there was this sort of honeymoon period but the severe colon pains

and eye pains and migraines began again with two months and the

occasional heartburn then became a daily affair and then WHAM! It was

as if a bomb went off. Rosner describes Lyme in this way. It

was progressing I just didn't know what is was that was progressing.

I am devastated by the diagnosis but grateful to " know " . Grateful to

have this demon identified.

Suzan

>

> One thought on reading this: maybe the mold was taxing the immune

system and

> with that gone, it's easier to fight off other stuff? - Robin

>

>

[Guest guest]

What kind of mold was it?

I'm told taking belongings with, if it is a poison mold (stachy, or a

bad strain of aspergillus), brings the toxins along and prevents

complete recovery.

> >

> > One thought on reading this: maybe the mold was taxing the immune

> system and

> > with that gone, it's easier to fight off other stuff? - Robin

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Why would hypoglycemia and low bp prohibit one from using buhner's herbs?

99% of Lyme patients suffered adrenal exhaustion to some degree and thus

hypoglycemia.

So you're telling me that noone can take these herbs?

BTW which herbs were you talking about?

> > >

> > > One thought on reading this: maybe the mold was taxing the immune

> > system and

> > > with that gone, it's easier to fight off other stuff? - Robin

> > >

> > >

> >

>