newbie question

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< Has anyone used, and had success with Parastroy made by Nature's Secret. I

just joined a few days ago. From what I understand it is best to get rid of

parasites before doing a liver cleanse. I just bought Hulda s book

today, but have had the Parastroy in my closet for a few weeks. I am hoping

it works because I can't take it back. I suffer from fibromyagia, panic,

anxiety, depression and chronic fatigue. >>

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Hi, Candy,

Welcome to our forum discussion. We all learn a lot from each other, BTW.

Well, yes, you're supposed to do a kidney and parasite cleanse before you do

the liver/GB cleanse. However, those of us who have had horrible pain and

problems from our gallbladders have found it necessary to go ahead and do the

GB cleanse first. When you've been in pain that you think is going to kill

you, then your mind kind of wants to get rid of this first.

Personally I have never done the kidney cleanse. I do take certain herbs for

the parasite, plus eat lots of garlic. I probably need to do the kidney

cleanse, though.

Oh, if Dale is around, have you done this cleanse, the kidney one? I'm just

curious.

So, Candy, if you are having intense pain, I totally recommend that you do

the GB cleanse first, if the GB is your pain that you're having. It can

cause many things. It can cause fatigue, all kinds of stuff because it has

so much crap in it. I mean, the stuff that comes out just amazes me. It's

sooooooooooo gross!!! And the only time that I have this totally gross mess

coming out is during the GB cleanse. Never at another time.

Hope this helps. Plus, you must change your diet. Check out Dr. Cabot at

www.liverdoctor.com

Take care,

Susie

[Guest guest]

Hi Candy

Welcome to our group. I ( at different times) have some of those

emotional issues to. I never could distinguish if it was PMS, Sugar, or

candida. Candida can cause wild mood swings. I would get anxiety,

depression, and panic that was just internal, nothing chaotic. It was

driven by sugar. ANd, of course, I have candida also.

Welcome and good luck

--- Candy StClair <candytheboss@...> wrote:

> Has anyone used, and had success with Parastroy made by Nature's

> Secret. I just joined a few days ago. From what I understand it is

> best to get rid of parasites before doing a liver cleanse. I just

> bought Hulda s book today, but have had the Parastroy in my

> closet for a few weeks. I am hoping it works because I can't take it

> back. I suffer from fibromyagia, panic, anxiety, depression and

> chronic fatigue.

>

> Thanks for you help

>

> Candy

>

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Proverbs (Robin2)

If you always do what you have always done, you'll

always get what you have always got.

Is that what you want ?

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[Guest guest]

Dear Candy,

Click on this http://www.bcn4life.com/uc1.htm

I think it will help you.

Mahkti

> Has anyone used, and had success with Parastroy made by Nature's

Secret. I just joined a few days ago. From what I understand it is

best to get rid of parasites before doing a liver cleanse. I just

bought Hulda s book today, but have had the Parastroy in my

closet for a few weeks. I am hoping it works because I can't take it

back. I suffer from fibromyagia, panic, anxiety, depression and

chronic fatigue.

>

> Thanks for you help

>

> Candy

[Guest guest]

Hello, I'm new. I have what I believe to be a diminishing immune system and

believe this allowed the yeast to get a hold of my system. So, I cut out

yeast, seriously cut back on sugar (to the point that after only 2 weeks

most things taste too sweet now) and have been following, in general a

modified diet. I added acidophilus and garlic supplements to my diet. I

also have been taking antibiotics for a strep infection in my throat and

foot. I also got what I believe to be oral thrush, a vaginal yeast

infection and athlete's foot (which allowed the impetigo to get hold of my

foot). I've been treating the yeast infections with anti-fungals (and will

continue through the duration of my antibiotics course).

Is it possible that after just 2 weeks I would notice a significant

improvement? I suddenly had a lot of energy, felt cheerful and saw rapid

improvement in all yeast infection symptoms.

Also, while putting together easter baskets for my kids I ate a handful of

jelly beans (and forgot my supplements until the evening), and this morning

I have lost my voice and have a sore throat (no spots or white coating on

tongue) -- is it possible that dose of sugar is responsible, or have I just

managed to get a common cold on top of everything else?. Today I'm lethargic

and just feel gross, in general.

--

Thea Mann

" We are the people who run this country. We are the deciders. " Molly Ivins

[Guest guest]

First, the antibiotics will cause growth of the yeast. I suspect the

sugar in the jelly beans is the cause for the sore throat. Usually

if I ate some sugar or too many carbs I would get a bad case of oral

thrush, but sometimes I'd just get the sore throat. I've had bad

cases of oral thrush where it was also in my throat.

Gail

>

> Hello, I'm new. I have what I believe to be a diminishing immune

system and

> believe this allowed the yeast to get a hold of my system. So, I

cut out

> yeast, seriously cut back on sugar (to the point that after only 2

weeks

> most things taste too sweet now) and have been following, in

general a

> modified diet. I added acidophilus and garlic supplements to my

diet. I

> also have been taking antibiotics for a strep infection in my

throat and

> foot. I also got what I believe to be oral thrush, a vaginal yeast

> infection and athlete's foot (which allowed the impetigo to get

hold of my

> foot). I've been treating the yeast infections with anti-fungals

(and will

> continue through the duration of my antibiotics course).

>

> Is it possible that after just 2 weeks I would notice a significant

> improvement? I suddenly had a lot of energy, felt cheerful and saw

rapid

> improvement in all yeast infection symptoms.

>

> Also, while putting together easter baskets for my kids I ate a

handful of

> jelly beans (and forgot my supplements until the evening), and this

morning

> I have lost my voice and have a sore throat (no spots or white

coating on

> tongue) -- is it possible that dose of sugar is responsible, or

have I just

> managed to get a common cold on top of everything else?. Today I'm

lethargic

> and just feel gross, in general.

>

> --

> Thea Mann

>

>

> " We are the people who run this country. We are the deciders. "

Molly Ivins

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thea, sugar ( jelly beans, also coffee) is one of the worst things for

your immune system. Your body is fighting a lot of things right now

and so you DON'T want to weaken it more by feeding it sugar. Just one

teaspoon of sugar can knock down your immune system severely in your

situation. I can't stress that enough.

Sugar is this countries greatest slow poison and should be ILLEGAL.

Steph

[Guest guest]

Thea, a good thing for impetigo are the pre-made charcoal patches.

Also I used an ultra violet ray device with the patches and got rid of

it completely in less than two weeks without any antibiotics what so

ever. I did use a Q-tip though with some peroxide after the severity

of pain and itching got better which speeds up the process as well.

Ultra voilet ray devices are excellent for bee stings and external

infections. I am so glad I have one and wouldn't give it up for

anyting in an emergency. Also the charoal patches are handy and easy

to use for pain and for drawing out infections externally. Steph

[Guest guest]

Thank you! Staying away from coffee hasn't been hard, but I have allowed

myself a cup a day. I know caffeine is bad, but I use it to treat my ADD

rather than ritalin. I'm nearly done with the antibiotics (and will present

a stronger argument against yeast to my doctor) and am still using the OTC

antifungals for the other yeast with good results.

I feel sorry for my husband -- he's working his job as well as working my

job -- we own a small coffee shop.

On 4/9/07, ectopistes@... <ectopistes@...> wrote:

>

> Thea, sugar ( jelly beans, also coffee) is one of the worst things for

> your immune system. Your body is fighting a lot of things right now

> and so you DON'T want to weaken it more by feeding it sugar. Just one

> teaspoon of sugar can knock down your immune system severely in your

> situation. I can't stress that enough.

> Sugar is this countries greatest slow poison and should be ILLEGAL.

>

> Steph

>

>

>

>

--

Thea Mann

269-816-2993

" We are the people who run this country. We are the deciders. " Molly Ivins

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello.

> I recently found this site and started the program. My question is

> could the die-off symptoms from my new program-approved vitamins make

> my asthma worse temporarily since I was off vitamins for a long time

(I didn't realize that it was the yeast in them making me sick.) I'm

> really scared of the B vitamins because of past experience. Thanks.

==>Hi Joanna. Welcome to our group. During natural healing any

symptoms you had previous to starting this program will increase - see

this article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal2.php

Here are more articles about Healing Naturally so you will understand

what can happen, and what is happening:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_2.php

==>What past experience did you have with B vitamins, and what kind

were you taking ?

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello.

> I recently found this site and started the program. My question is

> could the die-off symptoms from my new program-approved vitamins make

> my asthma worse temporarily since I was off vitamins for a long time

(I didn't realize that it was the yeast in them making me sick.) I'm

> really scared of the B vitamins because of past experience. Thanks.

==>Hi Joanna. Welcome to our group. During natural healing any

symptoms you had previous to starting this program will increase - see

this article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal2.php

Here are more articles about Healing Naturally so you will understand

what can happen, and what is happening:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_2.php

==>What past experience did you have with B vitamins, and what kind

were you taking ?

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

No need to be scared of high quality B vitamins.

>

> Hello.

> I recently found this site and started the program. My question is

> could the die-off symptoms from my new program-approved vitamins make

> my asthma worse temporarily since I was off vitamins for a long time

(I

> didn't realize that it was the yeast in them making me sick.) I'm

> really scared of the B vitamins because of past experience. Thanks.

> Joanna

>

[Guest guest]

No need to be scared of high quality B vitamins.

>

> Hello.

> I recently found this site and started the program. My question is

> could the die-off symptoms from my new program-approved vitamins make

> my asthma worse temporarily since I was off vitamins for a long time

(I

> didn't realize that it was the yeast in them making me sick.) I'm

> really scared of the B vitamins because of past experience. Thanks.

> Joanna

>

[Guest guest]

>> >

> Bee, thank you so much for answering. I had decided against the

> candida diet until I found your website. It has given me real hope.

==>That's wonderful Joanna! You will be so happy you did.

>

> I have a symptom from B vits w/yeast and brewer's yeast that gives me

disorientation at night that is very extreme, so I was scared to try my

new Country Life no soy, yeast, etc b. I took it anyway last night and

got the symptoms again. I have now re-read the bottle and am seeing

Inositol and PABA and choline. Maybe those are causing the problem. I

will look on your website and try to order a b online, a brand that

others are recommending. Thank you very much for all of your time and

> your caring!!

==>Inositol, PABA and choline are also B vitamins so they would not

have caused any problems. I believe Country Life are very cheap

vitamins so it would be better to buy a higher quality. I use Natural

Factors brand.

==>I caution you not to attribute your symptoms to B vitamins because

IF they are needed most by your body they may create healing symptoms.

You should also take B vitamins with complete meals, and not take them

too close to bedtime - take your doses at breakfast and lunch instead.

Also ensure you buy a separate niacin supplement (B3) IF your B

vitamins contain synthetic niacin, called niacinamide. Also do not buy

non-flushing niacin.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I am a newbie on week 2 of the diet. Still working on getting my fats up and

for my supps to arrive, but otherwise following the diet pretty closely. I have

adrenal fatigue, Hashimotos, fatigue, and my main problem is undiagnosable

severe achy/stiff joints and muscles, although I will say that for the past few

days my serious neck stiffness is much better!

>

> Question: I am low in iron and not a fan of organ meats. Do you still

recommend I do not use iron supps? I do eat red meat, but this has not helped in

the past...perhaps because of my digestion issues with candida?

+++Hi Chris. I don't believe you " have to take " anything other than following

this program for your body to level out all of its nutrients.

One member of this group was on this program for 6 months, and didn't take any

iron supplements or eat extra liver, etc. She happened to have blood tests

done, that showed that her iron levels went from #4 (before the program) to #64.

Red meat contains iron and it is very important, along with eggs, since iron

requires enough " true " B12 from them in order to be absorbed and utilized. If

digestion is poor the person wouldn't have been able to absorb B12 like they

should.

You should be doing what you can to improve your digestion - see that section in

How to Successfully Overcome Candida. If you are concerned you can take

dessicated liver tablets or make your own frozen liver pills - recipe is on my

website.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

I am having a hard time figuring out what to order. I need to treat myself and

my two teenagers - abx didn't work for any of us. Maybe the added complication

of corn and soy allergy could have hindered the effectiveness of the abx or it

could be because we had gone undiagnosed for so long.

Anyway, I need to start with the most cost effective treatment possible and

looking to increase and/or add as finances allow. My biggest fear is ordering

$100 worth of herbs and having them contaminated with corn additives (all

conventional Rx and OTC meds contain them) rendering them useless to us. Is

there anyone here with a corn allergy that could advise me? Also, is there

anyone here with a severely limited budget trying to treat three family members

at the same time?

I started looking at 1st Chinese Herbs, but they give remarkably little

information about the products so I can't imagine how anyone can be sure they

are ordering the right thing. I am assuming that making capsules from

Andrographis because of the bitterness and taking with food all the others would

be cheapest. Am I wrong?

[Guest guest]

>

> Anyway, I need to start with the most cost effective treatment possible and

looking to increase and/or add as finances allow.

using bulk herbs from 1st chinese is probaby the cheapest option.

there are a few other suppliers for bulk herbs but I haven't tried them (because

they don't ship to Europe or shipping is too expensive).

> My biggest fear is ordering $100 worth of herbs and having them contaminated

with corn additives (all conventional Rx and OTC meds contain them) rendering

them useless to us.

bulk herbs do not contain such additives; maybe the concentrated powders contain

something extra. But those are more expensive, so why bother? Just choose the

basic herb powder.

> I started looking at 1st Chinese Herbs, but they give remarkably little

information about the products so I can't imagine how anyone can be sure they

are ordering the right thing.

If you are confused just send an email; I always got helpful replies from

at 1St Chinese, and AFAIK others are also very happy with their service.

> I am assuming that making capsules from Andrographis because of the bitterness

and taking with food all the others would be cheapest. Am I wrong?

correct, that is the cheapest option. However, mixing with food is not so easy,

you need to experiment what works. And it can be a lot of trouble to keep adding

the right dose with every meal etc. - I think for most of us it is easier to

make some stock of capsules and be done with that for a week or so.