Re: Core Protocol + Pulsed andrographis

[Guest guest]

Stephania and Andrographis are totally different IMO. Andrographis has

antiviral, antibacterial, antifungal properties (and others, I'm sure). I have

not used this herb as a part of the Buhner protocol per se, only prior to my

diagnosis when I was working with an ND who was thinking I might have a viral

issue. Definitely had some herx reaction to it. I do think you can pulse it or

work it into a rotation so that you are not on it constantly.

You could also do a phone consult with Tim about it - he may have some ideas.

From: canefan18@...

Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:37:29 +0000

Subject: [ ] Core Protocol + Pulsed andrographis

Since Andrographis seems to kick so much ASS!! lol

What about taking Buhner's core protocol(knotweed, cats, eleuthero) and pulse

Andrographis in at low doses?

I'm on Tim's formula at greendragonbotanicals. and I can't get above 5 caps/day

and I'm suspecting it's because the andrigraphis.

Does anybody pulse andrographis? or is stephania a good substitute for

andrographis?

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[Guest guest]

, I'm assuming that you're saying that the severity of your herx response

is the reason why you can't get above 5 caps/day. is this accurate? What are

you herx symptoms? Why do you supect it's the Andro that's causing it? I'm

having a similar problem: I'm still at 4 caps/day after 4 months on the

protocol. For me, I'm thinking it's because of my high heavy metals count (Hg

and Pb).

Phil

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> Since Andrographis seems to kick so much ASS!! lol

>

> What about taking Buhner's core protocol(knotweed, cats, eleuthero) and pulse

Andrographis in at low doses?

>

> I'm on Tim's formula at greendragonbotanicals. and I can't get above 5

caps/day and I'm suspecting it's because the andrigraphis.

>

>

> Does anybody pulse andrographis? or is stephania a good substitute for

andrographis?

>

[Guest guest]

It has been some time, but if I remember correctly, my LLMD told me that

stephania was a good sustitute for andrographis.

I liked andrographis and felt intuitively that it was good for my system;

however after several months I did develop a mild rash from it so I stopped

using it and substituted stephania. Stephania is better as a tincture or

glycerite than as powder. jo

>

> Since Andrographis seems to kick so much ASS!! lol

>

> What about taking Buhner's core protocol(knotweed, cats, eleuthero) and pulse

Andrographis in at low doses?

>

> I'm on Tim's formula at greendragonbotanicals. and I can't get above 5

caps/day and I'm suspecting it's because the andrigraphis.

>

>

> Does anybody pulse andrographis? or is stephania a good substitute for

andrographis?

>

[Guest guest]

>

> It has been some time, but if I remember correctly, my LLMD told me that

stephania was a good sustitute for andrographis.

yes, I think Buhner says so in the book or otherwise somewhere on the

PlanethHealth pages. He initially used andrographis because stephania was

difficult to get in the US, and it is not available as a product with

standardized content.

[Guest guest]

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> Stephania and Andrographis are totally different IMO. Andrographis has

antiviral, antibacterial, antifungal properties (and others, I'm sure).

yes, they have different properties but the way that Buhner chooses the herbs is

not really based on science IMHO. Most of the Buhner herbs have overlap in their

properties anyway.