Air Hunger

[Guest guest]

Good question -- which makes me question whether I have Babesia. My iron, Hgb

and ferritin levels are normal. From all the responses in this group, and the

thyroid and adrenal issues groups in which I'm a member, it seems that there are

many reasons for air hunger (low thyroid and low cortisol being two). I

understand that Lyme is very hard on the adrenal glands, and low functioning

adrenal glands can cause air hunger as a symptom.

Not sure if this helpful, but I've had so many varied responses, that I thought

I'd share them.

--Robyn

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> Question for air hunger people....

> How are your iron levels....? Ferritin, hematocrit and hemoglobin??

>

> My air hunger seems to come from anemia....which comes from babesia. Has

anyone tried iron iv infusion therapy?

>

> Would love to hear other peoples experience when treating babasia and dealing

with sypmtoms.

>

> Monty

> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

>

[Guest guest]

Couple comments: are you talking about the new genospecies being found here in

the US, Borrelia bissettii?

Also, I went to Dr Burrascano's talk and heard him mention that all Lyme

patients have co-infections, but I don't think I do - I think I just have Lyme

from a tick bite in Big Sur, CA in 1981. I do have some air hunger, but no other

babesia symptoms and no positive babesia test, so I am thinking I must have air

hunger from Lyme. - Robin

[ ] Re: Air hunger?

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> DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU WERE BITTEN-

> you can sometimes determine the likelihood of one or others of the

> co-infections. For instance, I am trying to find out the percentage of ticks

> in my old haunt that carry babesia. My test was negative, but I sometimes

> have minor symptoms.

> This is highly detailed, but it can be done.

> For instance a doctor treating in the area where I was bitten has now

> figured out that most of the Borrelia he is seeing is not BURGDORFERI!

Is this in the US, and what Bb version is it? We in Europe already have multiple

Bb versions to deal with, and some of those have very different properties (but

allopathic medicine uses the same treatment for all of them).

The Lyme symptom lists are unreliable IMHO; many people probably have undetected

coinfections (Burrascano recently said all his patients have tick

coinfections?). So what is reported as a Borrelia (lyme) symptom might as well

be from an unidentified coinfection, and the other way round probably.

> ILADS doctors do pay attention to this.

I justed checked symptoms for Bart infection, and every ILADS doc seems to have

his/her own list, with little overlap; they cannot be talking about the same

infection... Treatment similar story.

> How much this matters to our primarily herbal protocol is quite a guess - I

> imagine not much, as plants work differently than pharms, which are

> engineered to target specific " items " .

> Still, it can be useful to know in terms of overall progress an well being.

Yes, the herbs mostly target the disease manifestation (based on symptoms),

while allopathic drugs supposedly target the 'cause', if it can be found (based

on bloodtests, first of all). The truth is probably somewhere in between, e.g.

many ABX have anti-inflammatory actions just like some of the Buhner herbs.