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Judy, two questions. Are you off the ABX now and what frequency are you

using. I found cat's claw is what worked for me in the beginning; but had to

take amoxicillin last week for a tooth and had it have a huge effect on my

body - major herx I think. It's the fatigue for me too that has been so

debilitating.

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[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Judy Blake

Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 5:40 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Herbs that contain all of Buhners Protocol in

One pill

I don't have neurological lyme either. I have a range of constantly shifting

symptoms but the one that has been constant and severe is fatigue (I spent

most of 3 years in bed and am still quite limited). I've heard that fatigue

is the last to go. Did you have that? It took 2 years to diagnose the lyme,

then I took just cat's claw which helped at first but then I slid all the

way back after a few months so I went on antibiotics for 2.5 years. Now I am

rifing and starting the Buhner protocol. I am hopeful but this is such a

hard road to travel as everyone on this site knows.

judy

On Jun 18, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Manno wrote:

> I had it for 3 years. I tried antibiotics 2 x without success. I am

> on doxycycline for the last 2 months of my Buhner protocol, but I

> started feeling better after 6 months on the Buhner protocol. I did

> not have neurological Lyme, however, so it varies from case to case.

>

>

> On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Judy Blake wrote:

>

>> Wow , that is so wonderful. I don't think I've heard of

>> anyone who has felt 100% better after battling chronic lyme. How

>> long did you have it? Was the Buhner protocol the only treatment

>> you followed?

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Judy

>>

>> On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Manno wrote:

>>

>>> I am feeling 100% better since the day I started them 1 year ago. I

>>> am planning to come off them

>>> in the next week or so and have been slowly decreasing my dosage. I

>>> am completely satisfied with the results.

>>> I was getting the pills from Tim in Vermont. Good luck to

>>> everyone!

>>>

>>> On Jun 18, 2010, at 6:44 AM, Anita Pelligra wrote:

>>>

>>>> Can you tell me if you symptoms have diminished and if you actually

>>>> feel

>>>> better on it rather than just being able to tolerate it? I would

>>>> like to

>>>> hear that someone has had some significant improvement while taking

>>>> this

>>>> supplement.

>>>>

>>>> Anita Pelligra

>>>>

>>>>

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Hi ,

I have been off the abx since late December. I have a GB4000 and have been

running different frequencies every time. I've been getting some guidance from

a woman who has years of experience with lyme and rife. I know people who have

gotten their lives back using this machine so I am staying positive!! What kind

of machine do you have?

judy

On Jun 21, 2010, at 10:35 AM, wrote:

> Judy, two questions. Are you off the ABX now and what frequency are you

> using. I found cat's claw is what worked for me in the beginning; but had to

> take amoxicillin last week for a tooth and had it have a huge effect on my

> body - major herx I think. It's the fatigue for me too that has been so

> debilitating.

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Judy Blake

> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 5:40 PM

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Herbs that contain all of Buhners Protocol in

> One pill

>

> I don't have neurological lyme either. I have a range of constantly shifting

> symptoms but the one that has been constant and severe is fatigue (I spent

> most of 3 years in bed and am still quite limited). I've heard that fatigue

> is the last to go. Did you have that? It took 2 years to diagnose the lyme,

> then I took just cat's claw which helped at first but then I slid all the

> way back after a few months so I went on antibiotics for 2.5 years. Now I am

> rifing and starting the Buhner protocol. I am hopeful but this is such a

> hard road to travel as everyone on this site knows.

> judy

>

> On Jun 18, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Manno wrote:

>

> > I had it for 3 years. I tried antibiotics 2 x without success. I am

> > on doxycycline for the last 2 months of my Buhner protocol, but I

> > started feeling better after 6 months on the Buhner protocol. I did

> > not have neurological Lyme, however, so it varies from case to case.

> >

> >

> > On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Judy Blake wrote:

> >

> >> Wow , that is so wonderful. I don't think I've heard of

> >> anyone who has felt 100% better after battling chronic lyme. How

> >> long did you have it? Was the Buhner protocol the only treatment

> >> you followed?

> >>

> >> Thanks,

> >> Judy

> >>

> >> On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Manno wrote:

> >>

> >>> I am feeling 100% better since the day I started them 1 year ago. I

> >>> am planning to come off them

> >>> in the next week or so and have been slowly decreasing my dosage. I

> >>> am completely satisfied with the results.

> >>> I was getting the pills from Tim in Vermont. Good luck to

> >>> everyone!

> >>>

> >>> On Jun 18, 2010, at 6:44 AM, Anita Pelligra wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> Can you tell me if you symptoms have diminished and if you actually

> >>>> feel

> >>>> better on it rather than just being able to tolerate it? I would

> >>>> like to

> >>>> hear that someone has had some significant improvement while taking

> >>>> this

> >>>> supplement.

> >>>>

> >>>> Anita Pelligra

> >>>>

> >>>>

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Judy, it's a machine I borrowed, so don't know. It has 3 dials that adjust

it on the top and it's hooked to a battery. Not a very good description I

know.

I've run 432 for lyme and 395 for ehrlicia (and 10,000 to detox). Is there a

reason you don't stick with one freq? Do you get herxing?

Re: [ ] Herbs that contain all of Buhners

> Protocol in One pill

>

> I don't have neurological lyme either. I have a range of constantly

> shifting symptoms but the one that has been constant and severe is

> fatigue (I spent most of 3 years in bed and am still quite limited).

> I've heard that fatigue is the last to go. Did you have that? It took

> 2 years to diagnose the lyme, then I took just cat's claw which helped

> at first but then I slid all the way back after a few months so I went

> on antibiotics for 2.5 years. Now I am rifing and starting the Buhner

> protocol. I am hopeful but this is such a hard road to travel as everyone

on this site knows.

> judy

>

> On Jun 18, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Manno wrote:

>

> > I had it for 3 years. I tried antibiotics 2 x without success. I am

> > on doxycycline for the last 2 months of my Buhner protocol, but I

> > started feeling better after 6 months on the Buhner protocol. I did

> > not have neurological Lyme, however, so it varies from case to case.

> >

> >

> > On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Judy Blake wrote:

> >

> >> Wow , that is so wonderful. I don't think I've heard of

> >> anyone who has felt 100% better after battling chronic lyme. How

> >> long did you have it? Was the Buhner protocol the only treatment

> >> you followed?

> >>

> >> Thanks,

> >> Judy

> >>

> >> On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Manno wrote:

> >>

> >>> I am feeling 100% better since the day I started them 1 year ago.

> >>> I am planning to come off them in the next week or so and have

> >>> been slowly decreasing my dosage. I am completely satisfied with

> >>> the results.

> >>> I was getting the pills from Tim in Vermont. Good luck to

> >>> everyone!

> >>>

> >>> On Jun 18, 2010, at 6:44 AM, Anita Pelligra wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> Can you tell me if you symptoms have diminished and if you

> >>>> actually feel better on it rather than just being able to

> >>>> tolerate it? I would like to hear that someone has had some

> >>>> significant improvement while taking this supplement.

> >>>>

> >>>> Anita Pelligra

> >>>>

> >>>>

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,

I originally had a detox box that I used for a year. I never had a herx with

it. Then I found out about the GB4000 and managed to get one as I heard they

were great. Rosner lists it in his book as one of the recommended ones.

It's an AC machine with an amplifier and boy does it kick butt! I herx every

time. The woman who has been helping me advised that I switch the frequencies

around so the bugs don't get wise to one, sort of like they do if you don't

switch your antibiotics. If you don't have it, you should get a hold of a copy

of Rosners book on Lyme disease and Rife machines. He lists many

frequencies to try and explains the pros and cons to the different types of

machines. Good luck and let me know if I can help in any way!

Judy

On Jun 21, 2010, at 3:18 PM, wrote:

> Judy, it's a machine I borrowed, so don't know. It has 3 dials that adjust

> it on the top and it's hooked to a battery. Not a very good description I

> know.

>

> I've run 432 for lyme and 395 for ehrlicia (and 10,000 to detox). Is there a

> reason you don't stick with one freq? Do you get herxing?

>

>

>

> Re: [ ] Herbs that contain all of Buhners

> > Protocol in One pill

> >

> > I don't have neurological lyme either. I have a range of constantly

> > shifting symptoms but the one that has been constant and severe is

> > fatigue (I spent most of 3 years in bed and am still quite limited).

> > I've heard that fatigue is the last to go. Did you have that? It took

> > 2 years to diagnose the lyme, then I took just cat's claw which helped

> > at first but then I slid all the way back after a few months so I went

> > on antibiotics for 2.5 years. Now I am rifing and starting the Buhner

> > protocol. I am hopeful but this is such a hard road to travel as everyone

> on this site knows.

> > judy

> >

> > On Jun 18, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Manno wrote:

> >

> > > I had it for 3 years. I tried antibiotics 2 x without success. I am

> > > on doxycycline for the last 2 months of my Buhner protocol, but I

> > > started feeling better after 6 months on the Buhner protocol. I did

> > > not have neurological Lyme, however, so it varies from case to case.

> > >

> > >

> > > On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Judy Blake wrote:

> > >

> > >> Wow , that is so wonderful. I don't think I've heard of

> > >> anyone who has felt 100% better after battling chronic lyme. How

> > >> long did you have it? Was the Buhner protocol the only treatment

> > >> you followed?

> > >>

> > >> Thanks,

> > >> Judy

> > >>

> > >> On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Manno wrote:

> > >>

> > >>> I am feeling 100% better since the day I started them 1 year ago.

> > >>> I am planning to come off them in the next week or so and have

> > >>> been slowly decreasing my dosage. I am completely satisfied with

> > >>> the results.

> > >>> I was getting the pills from Tim in Vermont. Good luck to

> > >>> everyone!

> > >>>

> > >>> On Jun 18, 2010, at 6:44 AM, Anita Pelligra wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>>> Can you tell me if you symptoms have diminished and if you

> > >>>> actually feel better on it rather than just being able to

> > >>>> tolerate it? I would like to hear that someone has had some

> > >>>> significant improvement while taking this supplement.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Anita Pelligra

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

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Hi ,

I have a GB4000, have been off abx for 4 months; i rife every day and am

improving. I have fewer eye pains.

I never knew what was causing the eye pains: Lyme, Bart, Babs, Toxoplasmosis,

parasites, or candida. So i rife for all of those and something is working.

Before that, i was on abx for 5 1/2 years, which killed a lot of lyme, but i

still had eye pains and head symptoms. I was never treated for Bart or

Toxoplasmosis, or tested positive for Bart, or tested at all for Toxop.

I take herbals for Babs. Mepron/Zith worked for me for Babs, but i couldn't

afford to keep it up long enough. Rife hasn't worked at all for me for Babesia

yet. My herbals keep the symptoms down very well, but they are a bit expensive.

But if i miss doses, the Babesia symptoms start returning.

Rife definitely replaces the abx. I couldn't stay off abx for even a few days

before head presssure began to build up. By the end of a week, i would be

desperate , really desperate, for abx.

My husband is like knotweed. He sees me getting well, but i am not a controlled

study, so he says it's all nonsense.

I am worried about the safety, long-term, so i'm planning to try the PE-1 with

homeopathic nosodes that selma used to cure herself of everything. Granted , as

my husband says, " we don't know why selma got well " , but she was VERY ill!

Selma used to post on this forum when she was doing Buhner herbs, and she did

them better than anyone. She posted here as selmanaka or hardynaka.

I use 612 for lyme, in the form of a sweep, 612-614. The GB4000 does sweeps, so

you hit all the frex from 612-614 including to one place after the decimal

point, like 612.1, 612.2 etc. I also do 612 harmonics. I programmed a channel

to run simultaneously 612, 1224, 2448, 4896, 9792, etc. Dan on lymenet says

that is more powerful. I never felt anything from 432.

Good luck,

purpleffoxglove

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Purple,

Thanks for the great post......I use the Coil & have had great results with my

digestion but nothing yet for Lyme using 432, 612.

Have you tried 570 for Babesia?

What other frequencies do you use for Candida, Toxiplasma,Bartonella, parasites?

Jay

Re: [ ]Rifing

Hi ,

I have a GB4000, have been off abx for 4 months; i rife every day and am

improving. I have fewer eye pains.

I never knew what was causing the eye pains: Lyme, Bart, Babs, Toxoplasmosis,

parasites, or candida. So i rife for all of those and something is working.

Before that, i was on abx for 5 1/2 years, which killed a lot of lyme, but i

still had eye pains and head symptoms. I was never treated for Bart or

Toxoplasmosis, or tested positive for Bart, or tested at all for Toxop.

I take herbals for Babs. Mepron/Zith worked for me for Babs, but i couldn't

afford to keep it up long enough. Rife hasn't worked at all for me for Babesia

yet. My herbals keep the symptoms down very well, but they are a bit expensive.

But if i miss doses, the Babesia symptoms start returning.

Rife definitely replaces the abx. I couldn't stay off abx for even a few days

before head presssure began to build up. By the end of a week, i would be

desperate , really desperate, for abx.

My husband is like knotweed. He sees me getting well, but i am not a controlled

study, so he says it's all nonsense.

I am worried about the safety, long-term, so i'm planning to try the PE-1 with

homeopathic nosodes that selma used to cure herself of everything. Granted , as

my husband says, " we don't know why selma got well " , but she was VERY ill! Selma

used to post on this forum when she was doing Buhner herbs, and she did them

better than anyone. She posted here as selmanaka or hardynaka.

I use 612 for lyme, in the form of a sweep, 612-614. The GB4000 does sweeps, so

you hit all the frex from 612-614 including to one place after the decimal

point, like 612.1, 612.2 etc. I also do 612 harmonics. I programmed a channel to

run simultaneously 612, 1224, 2448, 4896, 9792, etc. Dan on lymenet says that is

more powerful. I never felt anything from 432.

Good luck,

purpleffoxglove

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Tredan

So the photon genie worked for you?

Explain a bit more if you dont mind

Thank Pal

 

Steel

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c 508.922.0519

The harder you work the luckier you get!

 

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From: tre dan <lymeover@...>

Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 7:26:56 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Rifing

 

Rifing works.  To take it to another level try the photon genie. Write me if

you want to know more.  I 've had my machine for two years now.  when na organ

inside myself or my husband hurts we put the flat part on that spot and in a few

hours the pain goes away, as well as regenerting frequencies and kill factor

frequencies.

 

GREAT that you are going that direction.  I know how you can get a $100.00 off

a new Photon Genie.

 

Sincerely

lymeover and out

> >>>

> >>>> Can you tell me if you symptoms have diminished and if you

> >>>> actually feel better on it rather than just being able to

> >>>> tolerate it? I would like to hear that someone has had some

> >>>> significant improvement while taking this supplement.

> >>>>

> >>>> Anita Pelligra

> >>>>

> >>>>

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what is it???? a link please??

From: psteel5@...

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 04:17:39 -0700

Subject: Re: [ ] Rifing

Tredan

So the photon genie worked for you?

Explain a bit more if you dont mind

Thank Pal

Steel

h 508.520.6905

c 508.922.0519

The harder you work the luckier you get!

________________________________

From: tre dan <lymeover@...>

Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 7:26:56 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Rifing

Rifing works. To take it to another level try the photon genie. Write me if you

want to know more. I 've had my machine for two years now. when na organ

inside myself or my husband hurts we put the flat part on that spot and in a few

hours the pain goes away, as well as regenerting frequencies and kill factor

frequencies.

GREAT that you are going that direction. I know how you can get a $100.00 off a

new Photon Genie.

Sincerely

lymeover and out

> >>>

> >>>> Can you tell me if you symptoms have diminished and if you

> >>>> actually feel better on it rather than just being able to

> >>>> tolerate it? I would like to hear that someone has had some

> >>>> significant improvement while taking this supplement.

> >>>>

> >>>> Anita Pelligra

> >>>>

> >>>>

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