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Hi Everyone,

I wonder if anyone with hyperthyroidism has ever tried a product called

Ambrotose or aloe vera gel? Ambrotose is supposed to help people with

immune system problems and is a polysaccharide including freeze dried

aloe vera gel. I am thinking of trying it but am concerned if it has

any adverse reactions in our group?

Thank you so much.

Regards,

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What did you want to know about the aloe vera gel? I use to drink it every

day, but not for Hypo_T. I used it for gastro-intestinal disturbances...

Chris

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, I did try aloe vera gel as a drink and it did not help me at all, a

waste of money and time; in some cases can even be dangerous with or without

our condition. I wouldn't risk it. Sheri Lynn

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Glenda re wrote:

> From: Glenda re <g.carriere@...>

>

> ,

>

> How have you been going with the ambrotose? I took my first capsule this

> afternoon and within 30 minutes got a very bad headache. I am now

> seriously debating whether I should take any more. I realise one capsule

> is hardly a fair trial but if the reaction is so immediate and bad I can't

> really rationalise that it is because it is actually starting to work in

> the system and and that in turn is what is causing the headache. Now the

> headache is easing after 7 hours and painkillers, I'm tempted to try

> another because its so expensive to take one capsule and stop.

Glenda,

Thats what the stuff did to me. I got pressure in the head and dizziness and

pain in the back of my head that still comes intermittently 2 months LATER. I

wrote the company and they said my

reactions could have been caused by anything and after filling out their forms

they dediced I was NOT allergic to anything in their products, altho we are NOT

allowed to KNOW whats in them because

its a patented formula. All I can say is to be VERY careful. They did even go

on to say that my reactions were COMMON to their products and I should start

them again at a lower dose. (I started

at a tiny dose) All I can say is be VERY careful, you may end up with a

permanent headache!

Marcia

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Hi,

Nurse/nutritionist in town here who recommends Ambertose says that if

headache occurs that it is necessary to reduce dose and work back up again.

Christie - who has been this route too!

Tab@...

At 10:28 AM 4/28/99 -0800, you wrote:

>From: Marcia Grahn <mgrahn@...>

>

>

>

>Glenda re wrote:

>

>> From: Glenda re <g.carriere@...>

>>

>> ,

>>

>> How have you been going with the ambrotose? I took my first capsule this

>> afternoon and within 30 minutes got a very bad headache. I am now

>> seriously debating whether I should take any more. I realise one capsule

>> is hardly a fair trial but if the reaction is so immediate and bad I can't

>> really rationalise that it is because it is actually starting to work in

>> the system and and that in turn is what is causing the headache. Now the

>> headache is easing after 7 hours and painkillers, I'm tempted to try

>> another because its so expensive to take one capsule and stop.

>

>Glenda,

>

>Thats what the stuff did to me. I got pressure in the head and dizziness

and pain in the back of my head that still comes intermittently 2 months

LATER. I wrote the company and they said my

>reactions could have been caused by anything and after filling out their

forms they dediced I was NOT allergic to anything in their products, altho

we are NOT allowed to KNOW whats in them because

>its a patented formula. All I can say is to be VERY careful. They did

even go on to say that my reactions were COMMON to their products and I

should start them again at a lower dose. (I started

>at a tiny dose) All I can say is be VERY careful, you may end up with a

permanent headache!

>

>Marcia

>

>

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sgirt@... wrote:

> From: sgirt@...

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> I am new to this forum. I have PSC and am looking at possiblity of a liver

transplant in the near future.

>

> I have heard about a nutricutical called Ambrotose that is supposed to help

people with Hepatitis C and others. My mother is currently taking it. Has

anybody heard of it and what are their experiences?

>

> Thank You,

>

>

>

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: Welcome to the group. There is a support group for PSC at

www./group/

I am a four year survivor of a LT due to PSC.

Thanks

Tom Black

Ohio

[ ] ambrotose

>From: sgirt@...

>

>I am new to this forum. I have PSC and am looking at possiblity of a liver

transplant in the near future.

>

>I have heard about a nutricutical called Ambrotose that is supposed to help

people with Hepatitis C and others. My mother is currently taking it. Has

anybody heard of it and what are their experiences?

>

>Thank You,

>

>

>

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Hi.

I would like to state that I have experience taking ambrotose and plus

for a long period of time, and was terribly dissatisfied. Maybe

miraculous for some, but certainly not for all.

Please allow this list to remain a valuable discussion place for all

products and services, not strictly a marketplace for ambrotose. This

becomes the case when you respond to every post as mannacleanse being

superior to all others.

Thank you in advance.

=o)

Cheryl

> Ambrotose is THE MAIN KEY to good health. Any products, as good as they may

> be, if they do not contain ambrotose, are less than what they could be. And

> that is why Mannacleanse is superior to EVERYTHING that is on the market

> today. When every cell in the body is healthy, the whole body is healthy.

>

> And that is why Mannatech is poised to absolutely dominate the field of

> natural health products.

>

> This opportunity is open for all and is still very much ground floor. Will

> you be one of those who eventually will say " I could have been in on it! " ?

>

> Russ

>

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In a message dated 10/22/99 23:32:55, cheryl@... writes:

<< Please allow this list to remain a valuable discussion place for all

products and services, not strictly a marketplace for ambrotose. This

becomes the case when you respond to every post as mannacleanse being

superior to all others. >>

Ditto. I for one am interested in the Mannacleanse based on the information

you (Russ) sent out. I will probably try it in the near future using the web

site and reference number you gave. But having it constantly pushed on me

serves as a decentive rather than an incentive to try the product. We on the

list are presumably intelligent adults. We can sift through and catalog the

information we receive without a hard sell (After all we at least sometime

computer " geeks " !) Your enthusiasm about Mannacleanse is appreciated and

I'm sure comes from a good place. You have found a product which has helped

you tremendously and you are eager to share it with the world. But we do

have to make our own choices.

Robin

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Howdy Ted,

Interesting doesn't even begin to describe it. There is a lot of

information about Ambrotose and autoimmune diseases. Cronic Fatigue and

Fibromialgia are autoimmune diseases. I can get you an appointment to talk

to Laurie Newton. She is a very dear friend of ours. She is also a

Registered Nurse Practitioner in Seattle Wa. If you think my wife's story

was interesting wait until you talk to Laurie. She had multiple autoimmune

diseases and at one point her spine crumbled and she was bed ridden. Now she

travels the country telling people about Ambrotose and MANNATECH. Which by

the way is were you get Ambrotose. MANNATECH IS THE MOST INCREDIBLY

WONDERFUL GOD GIVEN GIFT WE HAVE EVER BEEN BLESSED WITH!!!!!

We have a line of supplements that I truly believe have absolutely no

competition. I DIDN'T SAY OTHER NATURAL SUPPLEMENTS ARE NOT GOOD, THEY ARE

WONDERFUL COMPARED TO PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS, HOWEVER Dr. Gilbert R. Kaats Phd,

The Executive Director of The Health and Research Foundation said after a

four and a half year study consisting of over 35,000 body composition tests,

Mannatechs Nutritional Supplements are the best in the world in his opinion.

If you would like info about the studies on autoimmune diseases or any

other diseases CALL 972-304-9405 from a fax machine and you should be able to

access that information. Let me know what else we can help with. Like how

you can get Ambrotose for your own use.

GOD BLESS & HAVE A HEALTHY DAY Eddie & Harr

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Here's an Ambrotose article that I ran in last weekend's newspaper...

Eight essential sugars produce multiple benefits

Body Electric

According to the 1996 Harper's Biochemistry, a medical textbook for

healthcare professionals, of the 200 monosaccharides occurring in nature

eight specific carbohydrates (saccharides) represent the key to cellular

communication as these sugars combine with proteins to create the

glycoprotein chemical messengers. Only two of the eight are commonly

found in our typical modern diets: glucose and galactose. The other

sugars are Mannose, Fucose, Xylose, N-Acetylglucosamine, N-

Acetylgalactosamine, and N-Acetylneuraminic acid. The body has the

potential to convert glucose and galactose to the other six through

enzyme exchanges but the conversion process requires considerable energy

and is susceptible to interference from disease processes, medications

and free radicals. Oxidative damage from free radicals can also cause

destruction of existing glycoprotein structures, making it necessary to

convert some sugars into others to repair the damage.

But over-sweetened and over-processed foods do not supply these

essential sugars to us in sufficient quantities. Living in our current

environment, our bodies simply cannot keep up with this conversion/repair

process. Our modern western diet sadly contains only two of the essential

sugars: namely glucose and galactose. In addition, research shows that

when our bodies are under stress from disease or just from a rough day,

our cells can benefit from more of the essential sugars than we can get

in our diet.

The study of these eight sugars and their role in human biology is

called glycobiology. Since the initial discoveries in the early 1970s,

which led to the 1999 Nobel Prize in Medicine for Dr Gunter Blobel, the

field of glycobiology has become one of the fastest growing areas of

biology today.

The Physician's Desk Reference (PDR) for food products, used by 99%

of all doctors and healthcare professionals before recommending solutions

to their patients, lists glyco-nutrients for compromised immune systems.

Science Magazine, the premier journal for researchers and scientists

recently dedicated an entire issue to educating the science and medical

community about glyconutrients, glycobiology and glycoscience.

Technology Review (MIT), says, " Sugars could be biology's next sweet

spot. The 1990s may well be remembered in biology as the decade of the

gene, culminating in the completion of the Human Genome Project's working

draft. And the next big thing in medicine may be the study of the

proteins coded for by all those genes. But even as doctors and drug

companies struggle to interpret and exploit the recent explosion of data

on genes and proteins, yet another field of biology is waiting to break

out: glycomics. This emerging discipline seeks to do for sugars and

carbohydrates what genomics and proteomics have done for genes and

proteins—move them into the mainstream of biomedical research and drug

discovery. "

Scientific American printed " Changing Cancer Cells' Surface Sugars can

Inhibit Tumor Growth " in MEDICINE, on Jan. 22, 2002, which went, " The key

to halting cancer cells may lie in their sugary coats, scientists say.

Carbohydrate molecules surround all cells and help them to identify and

interact with one another. Now new research, published today in the

Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, indicates that altering

some of the surface sugars associated with cancer cells can control tumor

growth. The findings suggest that the sugars could one day serve as

targets for new anti-cancer therapies. "

In 1996, Dr. McAnalley identified sources of the eight essential sugars

and applied for worldwide patents on his compound, Ambrotose. In the

seven years that Ambrotose has been available on the market as a food

supplement, it has been shown to have benefits in many areas which

include: lowering cholesterol; increasing lean body mass; decreasing body

fat; accelerating wound healing; easing allergies; reversing autoimmune

diseases; helping the body fight off bacterial as well as many viral

infections; assisting the body in overcoming the debilitating symptoms of

chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia and Gulf War syndrome; mitigating

the toxic effects of radiation and chemotherapy in cancer patients.

After Ambrotose has worked its magic, a balanced diet should provide

just enough glyconutrients to work as a preventive measure. Aloe Vera, a

miracle plant in its own right, may be just what you need; it contains

over 250 natural vitamins and glucose, mannose, galactose, and xylose,

and also glycoproteins containing 18 amino acids. Several food mushrooms

contain glycans and glycoproteins too. Milk contains galactose, glucose

is in vegetables and in milk, mannose is found in a lot of fruits

especially cranberry and pineapple. Fucose is a component of sea

vegetables. For xylose, you can enjoy coconut, apple, asparagus, avocado,

banana, carrot, celery, hazelnut, kiwi, onion, orange, pear, pignoli,

strawberry, and walnut, buckwheat and the legumes mung bean, pea, peanut,

papaya and soybean.

Duncan Crow

>

> Has anyone heard of or used this product? If so how is it good for us?

> Could someone explain my reaction to its make up..what i mean is if its

> made up of sugars how is it good for candida and over all health?? I am

> bed ridden with alot of health complications mercury candida malabsorption

> thyroid problems etc etc. Would ambrotose be a good supp to take? Also ive

> been on nystatin now for a good 8 months. I dont knwo if its helped me as

> i am still too sick to feel any kind of difference and lately ive been

> eating alot of fruit and starchy veg. I am scared to stop the nystatin

> incase i get sicker?? Any advice? I dont want the yeast to change strains

> on me...does that happen? If i stop nystatin what AF should i begin to use

> next?

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Lori---where do you get Ambrotose?

ambrotose

Has anyone heard of or used this product? If so how is it good for us? Could

someone explain my reaction to its make up..what i mean is if its made up of

sugars how is it good for candida and over all health?? I am bed ridden with

alot of health complications mercury candida malabsorption thyroid problems etc

etc. Would ambrotose be a good supp to take? Also ive been on nystatin now for a

good 8 months. I dont knwo if its helped me as i am still too sick to feel any

kind of difference and lately ive been eating alot of fruit and starchy veg. I

am scared to stop the nystatin incase i get sicker?? Any advice? I dont want the

yeast to change strains on me...does that happen?

If i stop nystatin what AF should i begin to use next?

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Hi!

I take Ambrotose. It has helped immensely with my depression. I've been taking

it steady for about 2 years now, so I was taking it long before I found out I

had candida. Obviously, it didn't help with my candida ~ maybe I wasn't taking

enough, I don't know. But, as soon as I started taking it, I felt better. When I

stop taking it, my mood slowly declines over a month or so, but I don't realize

it until I start taking it again. Anyway, a lot of people experience a 'healing

reaction' when they start taking it, but I didn't. Whatever you feel at first,

good or bad, does level off after taking it for awhile. It acts as an immune

system regulator, meaning it boosts a low immune system, but also brings it down

if it's over-working (as in auto-immune disorders). With candida, your immune

system takes a real beating, so I say, if you can afford to take it (buying the

bulk form is actually quite reasonable), then go for it! It has also been shown

to raise gluthianone levels, and if you've been reading Duncan Crow's messages,

you'll know how important that is! ;)

Lori

ambrotose

Has anyone heard of or used this product? If so how is it good for us? Could

someone explain my reaction to its make up..what i mean is if its made up of

sugars how is it good for candida and over all health?? I am bed ridden with

alot of health complications mercury candida malabsorption thyroid problems etc

etc. Would ambrotose be a good supp to take? Also ive been on nystatin now for a

good 8 months. I dont knwo if its helped me as i am still too sick to feel any

kind of difference and lately ive been eating alot of fruit and starchy veg. I

am scared to stop the nystatin incase i get sicker?? Any advice? I dont want the

yeast to change strains on me...does that happen?

If i stop nystatin what AF should i begin to use next?

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Hi !

It's sold through MLM, but you can buy it on some vitamin-type online stores, or

even on ebay! It's made by a company called Mannatech, if you do a search

online, I'm sure you could find a suitable source. =)

Lori

Re: ambrotose

Hi!

I take Ambrotose. It has helped immensely with my depression. I've been

taking it steady for about 2 years now, so I was taking it long before I found

out I had candida. Obviously, it didn't help with my candida ~ maybe I wasn't

taking enough, I don't know. But, as soon as I started taking it, I felt better.

When I stop taking it, my mood slowly declines over a month or so, but I don't

realize it until I start taking it again. Anyway, a lot of people experience a

'healing reaction' when they start taking it, but I didn't. Whatever you feel at

first, good or bad, does level off after taking it for awhile. It acts as an

immune system regulator, meaning it boosts a low immune system, but also brings

it down if it's over-working (as in auto-immune disorders). With candida, your

immune system takes a real beating, so I say, if you can afford to take it

(buying the bulk form is actually quite reasonable), then go for it! It has also

been shown to raise gluthianone levels, and if you Lori

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Hi Pollypocket;

I read up on Ambrotose fairly extensively prior to writing a recent

newspaper column about it, and I did not find research indicating it

raised glutathione.

Glutathione contains three amino acids and the metal selenium, and

there's none of that at all in ambrotose, which is various sugars, so any

glutathione production will be limited by available building blocks for

it.

It would be great if it were true though; I might incorporate Ambrotose

into someone's health regime. Can you please forward me the research link

that backs the claim?

Reason I ask is that I've been recommending several foods that contain

the simpler sugars in Ambrotose; from them the body will manufacture the

balance. The difference is that natural raw foods also contain some

building blocks for glutathione production. And concentrated uncooked

foods like whey isolate contain lots of glutathione precursors.

Duncan Crow

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In a message dated 9/13/2004 8:31:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

exnyers@... writes:

Hi everyone... I'm fairly new here and have been reading along with

everyone's postings. Some people here seem to be quite informed and helpful. I

am

wondering what anyone has heard about AMBROTOSE. I would be interested in any

feedback whatsoever.

Thanks very much,

Kim (trying desperately to help my 60 y.o. mom who is battling met. breast

cancer)

..

..

>>> Ambrotose is from an MLM company meaning that although it might be very

helpful, it will be overpricedl

Ambrotose is complex sugars from the aloe vera plant, specially processed.

If it helps your Mon, it is worth any price..............

Hope this helps

mjh

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

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> success in attacking it?

>

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Hi...

Flaxseed oil and Cottage Cheese (a sulphur based food), raising the

frequency, more oxygen and balancing the pH........all work against

cancer...........

Cancer cure Dr. Budwig Diet, Flax seed oil And Cottage cheese

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My Dr. just introduced me to Cholangio Carcinoma. Anyone heard of any success

in attacking it?

-----O.riginal Message-----

From: foxhillers@... [mailto:foxhillers@...]

Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 5:34 PM

cures for cancer

Subject: Re: AMBROTOSE

In a message dated 9/13/2004 8:31:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

exnyers@... writes:

Hi everyone... I'm fairly new here and have been reading along with

everyone's postings. Some people here seem to be quite informed and helpful. I

am

wondering what anyone has heard about AMBROTOSE. I would be interested in any

feedback whatsoever.

Thanks very much,

Kim (trying desperately to help my 60 y.o. mom who is battling met. breast

cancer)

..

..

>>> Ambrotose is from an MLM company meaning that although it might be very

helpful, it will be overpricedl

Ambrotose is complex sugars from the aloe vera plant, specially processed.

If it helps your Mon, it is worth any price..............

Hope this helps

mjh

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

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BREAST CANCER

            I am going to put here an account of several breast cancer

examples of

            which

            I know.

            A couple of years ago a friend of ours had a mammogram and

it was

            suspicious. It was diecided to do a biopsy in a couple of

weeks and she

            immediately began using flaxseed oil and cottage cheese at

the rate of

            three

            tablespoons a day.

            When the biopsy was done a malignancy was found. Other tests

were done and

            a mastectomy was recommended. At this point she would have

gone strictly

            with the flaxseed oil, but Tenncare would pay the $3000.00

for the tests

            only if she did what was recommended. The operation was set

up but was

            postponed six weeks to try to get a surgeon to do

reconstructive surgery at

            the same time.

            It couldn't be worked out so finally the surgeon said they

should go ahead

            as the risk of metastasis was too great.

            The operation was done and the removed tissue taken to a lab

for analysis

            and there was no evidence of cancer present.

            She said the only good result of the unnecessary operation

was that she

            told

            the surgeon what she had been doing and he suddenly became

very interested.

            His wife had advanced breast cancer, had had a double

mastectomy and was

            not doing well at all. He had had her flown to clinics

wherever there

            seemed to be any hope and it hadn't helped.

            The last I heard his wife is doing very well.

            A year ago last February through a real " coincidence " there

were some tapes

            distributed at our PCa support group meeting and one man was

there who

            never

            came again.

            That night he and his wife visited and she got flaxseed oil

to get

            started..

            She had had a mastectomy and there was a " bubble " appeared.

The doctor

            said

            it was a hematoma and pay no attention. The bubble was still

there and

            larger a mont later. She went to a different doctor and was

waiting for

            his

            report.

            Two nights later she called. He found it was a very rare,

fast growing

            cancer. He gave her little time and no hope except possibly

a stem cell

            transplant. She was in tears and angry that the original

doctor had passed

            it off and wasted a month. She was now using the flaxseed

oil and cottage

            cheese at six tablespoons a day.

            When she had a checkup preparatory to the stem cell

transplant the cancer

            had already disappeared. The doctor was mystafied but told

her he would

            guarantee it would return unless she did something else. He

gave her

            something to boost her immune system and she became part of

a study to test

            a new vaccine. They were aware that she was on the flaxseed

oil. The last

            I knew sometime before Christmas 1999 she was doing fine and

a friend and

            she were combining orders and staying on the flaxseed oil.

            In the summer of 1996 Debbie stopped to see us on her way

home from her

            third chemo treatment for breast cancer. She had just gotten

a tape and

            listened to it on her way to the doctor's. She wanted to try

flaxseed oil

            and cottage cheese.

            When she went for her fourth chemo treatment and the white

count was done

            to

            see how low it was it was found that instead of going down

the count had

            actually gone up. She took the next treatment it had again

gone up. She

            decided to discontinue the chemo and go with the flaxseed

oil. The doctor

            warned her against that course of action but she did.

            The lump shrunk rapidly and she was excited. It did not

disappear

            completely, but there has been no regrowth and she believes

that what she

            can detect now is scar tissue. I have not heard from her for

some time but

            I know she would call if there were any change. When I call

her she

            answers

            the phone with " Praise The Lord " .

            A number of years ago a woman in the church where we attend

was found to

            have breast cancer. She was terrified at first but began the

use of

            flaxseed oil.

            They did a lumpectomy and then gave her 35 radiation

treatments to " be sure

            that the cancer cells were all gone " . She is fine today.

What brought the

            " wellness " ? The doctors are pleaesed that the treatments

were so

            successful.

            Early last summer a teacher in a neighboring school district

contacted us.

            A tape had been given to her husband.

            This teacher had been fighting breast cancer with chemo and

radiation for

            over seven years and was again in trouble. I do not know if

a mastectomy

            had also been involved, but I don't think so.

            They began using flaxseed oil and she was doing very well

the last I knew.

            Her husband used to come by for oil but they are now getting

their own.

            In August of 1996 a lady who was a member of the church

where one of my

            beekeeping friends attend had been found to have very

advanced breast

            cancer

            that had metastisized to the bones. My friend gave her a

tape and I called

            her one morning. She said she had been praying that she

would be led as to

            the course of action to take.

            The doctor wanted to give her chemo to shrink the cancer and

then operate

            to

            prevent an eruption, but said it would not give her longer

life or better

            quality of life. They did not give her but a few months in

any event.

            She refused the chemo and decided to go with flaxseed oil.

The doctor was

            very upset and called her several times and urged her to

follow his advice.

            The nurse told her she did not realize how ill she was. At

this time she

            did not get out of the house on her own.

            She started the oil and by late September was back in church

playing the

            piano. I thought all was well and was excited for her. Then

at Christmas

            time I heard she was in the hospital. We went to see her as

soon as she

            got

            home and at that time she could only sit up in bed for a few

minutes and

            was

            on hospice.

            They had given her radiation to try to prevent pain in her

spinal cord and

            it was not successful. They had not kept her warm enough and

she got

            pneumonia. She told me she would never go back to the

hospital again. She

            said they did something to her back that almost killed her.

            Then I found out what had happened. She still used some oil

after she felt

            better but stopped the protein. She hated cottagae cheese.

We got her

            started on Companion Nutrients.

            The next I heard she had driven to the Easter Sunrise

service and was

            driving to Knoxville. We stopped to see her a couple of

times and she was

            mowing the lawn and caring for her garden. She said she

still had problems

            but was improving.

            Her daughter who was living with her told me that the

hospice folks

            insisted

            on keeping her on a " pain patch " even though she didn't seem

to have any

            pain by this time when it wasn't on for awhile. She said she

didn't

            understand that.

            Then she quit using the Companion Nutrients. She gradually

went down hill

            and passed away.

            At the funeral her daughter told me that the hospice nurse

told her that

            when Emma Lee was sent home from the hospital that time the

doctor told her

            [the nurse] that Emma Lee could not possibly last 30 days.

            She lived over 22 months after that. Ond doctor told me that

the material

            in the pain patch alone would damage her heart and liver if

left on that

            period of time.

            I wonder today if she had used the protein correctly with

the flaxseed oil

            after she was back playing the piano in church if she would

not still be

            with us. We can only go around once and we can't do it both

ways.

            If I learn of any definite results from any one else I will

add it to this

            scientifically unacceptable, but nevertheless accurate

anacdotal document.

            Cliff

           

     

On Monday 13 September 2004 08:03 pm, k & Kim wrote:

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> Hi everyone... I'm fairly new here and have been reading along with

> everyone's postings. & nbsp; Some people here seem to be quite informed

> and helpful. & nbsp; I am wondering what anyone has heard about

> AMBROTOSE. & nbsp; I would be interested in any feedback

> whatsoever.<BR> <BR>

> Thanks very much,<BR>

> Kim (trying desperately to help my 60 y.o. mom who is battling met.

> breast cancer)<BR> <BR>

>

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Hi....

It's a sulphur based food such as cottage cheese that needs to go with flax

seed oil......the flax seed oil has the omegas in it and that was what is

deficient in people that have cancer according to Dr. Budwig.........

If one doesn't like cottage cheese then I don't know why something else with

sulphur wouldn't work or just taking sulphur.......but one needs food to eat

to if that is all they will have for a spell.............garlic has

sulphur.........

Here's something else that I think that is very important for any of us to

consider and I'm doing this now......it's what Dr. Vickery D.C. discovered in

the 80's with 9 out of 10 of his patients...........it was a stunning suprise to

me.............

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/amino/index.htm

Epstein barr, lyme disease, joint pain, spinal fusion, subluxation, borage,

linoleic acid

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Cliff, what are you selling: flaxseed oil or Companion Nutrients?

Bill

-- Re: AMBROTOSE

BREAST CANCER

I am going to put here an account of several breast cancer

examples of

which

I know.

A couple of years ago a friend of ours had a mammogram and

it was

suspicious. It was diecided to do a biopsy in a couple of

weeks and she

immediately began using flaxseed oil and cottage cheese at

the rate of

three

tablespoons a day.

When the biopsy was done a malignancy was found. Other tests

were done and

a mastectomy was recommended. At this point she would have

gone strictly

with the flaxseed oil, but Tenncare would pay the $3000.00

for the tests

only if she did what was recommended. The operation was set

up but was

postponed six weeks to try to get a surgeon to do

reconstructive surgery at

the same time.

It couldn't be worked out so finally the surgeon said they

should go ahead

as the risk of metastasis was too great.

The operation was done and the removed tissue taken to a lab

for analysis

and there was no evidence of cancer present.

She said the only good result of the unnecessary operation

was that she

told

the surgeon what she had been doing and he suddenly became

very interested.

His wife had advanced breast cancer, had had a double

mastectomy and was

not doing well at all. He had had her flown to clinics

wherever there

seemed to be any hope and it hadn't helped.

The last I heard his wife is doing very well.

A year ago last February through a real " coincidence " there

were some tapes

distributed at our PCa support group meeting and one man was

there who

never

came again.

That night he and his wife visited and she got flaxseed oil

to get

started..

She had had a mastectomy and there was a " bubble " appeared.

The doctor

said

it was a hematoma and pay no attention. The bubble was still

there and

larger a mont later. She went to a different doctor and was

waiting for

his

report.

Two nights later she called. He found it was a very rare,

fast growing

cancer. He gave her little time and no hope except possibly

a stem cell

transplant. She was in tears and angry that the original

doctor had passed

it off and wasted a month. She was now using the flaxseed

oil and cottage

cheese at six tablespoons a day.

When she had a checkup preparatory to the stem cell

transplant the cancer

had already disappeared. The doctor was mystafied but told

her he would

guarantee it would return unless she did something else. He

gave her

something to boost her immune system and she became part of

a study to test

a new vaccine. They were aware that she was on the flaxseed

oil. The last

I knew sometime before Christmas 1999 she was doing fine and

a friend and

she were combining orders and staying on the flaxseed oil.

In the summer of 1996 Debbie stopped to see us on her way

home from her

third chemo treatment for breast cancer. She had just gotten

a tape and

listened to it on her way to the doctor's. She wanted to try

flaxseed oil

and cottage cheese.

When she went for her fourth chemo treatment and the white

count was done

to

see how low it was it was found that instead of going down

the count had

actually gone up. She took the next treatment it had again

gone up. She

decided to discontinue the chemo and go with the flaxseed

oil. The doctor

warned her against that course of action but she did.

The lump shrunk rapidly and she was excited. It did not

disappear

completely, but there has been no regrowth and she believes

that what she

can detect now is scar tissue. I have not heard from her for

some time but

I know she would call if there were any change. When I call

her she

answers

the phone with " Praise The Lord " .

A number of years ago a woman in the church where we attend

was found to

have breast cancer. She was terrified at first but began the

use of

flaxseed oil.

They did a lumpectomy and then gave her 35 radiation

treatments to " be sure

that the cancer cells were all gone " . She is fine today.

What brought the

" wellness " ? The doctors are pleaesed that the treatments

were so

successful.

Early last summer a teacher in a neighboring school district

contacted us.

A tape had been given to her husband.

This teacher had been fighting breast cancer with chemo and

radiation for

over seven years and was again in trouble. I do not know if

a mastectomy

had also been involved, but I don't think so.

They began using flaxseed oil and she was doing very well

the last I knew.

Her husband used to come by for oil but they are now getting

their own.

In August of 1996 a lady who was a member of the church

where one of my

beekeeping friends attend had been found to have very

advanced breast

cancer

that had metastisized to the bones. My friend gave her a

tape and I called

her one morning. She said she had been praying that she

would be led as to

the course of action to take.

The doctor wanted to give her chemo to shrink the cancer and

then operate

to

prevent an eruption, but said it would not give her longer

life or better

quality of life. They did not give her but a few months in

any event.

She refused the chemo and decided to go with flaxseed oil.

The doctor was

very upset and called her several times and urged her to

follow his advice.

The nurse told her she did not realize how ill she was. At

this time she

did not get out of the house on her own.

She started the oil and by late September was back in church

playing the

piano. I thought all was well and was excited for her. Then

at Christmas

time I heard she was in the hospital. We went to see her as

soon as she

got

home and at that time she could only sit up in bed for a few

minutes and

was

on hospice.

They had given her radiation to try to prevent pain in her

spinal cord and

it was not successful. They had not kept her warm enough and

she got

pneumonia. She told me she would never go back to the

hospital again. She

said they did something to her back that almost killed her.

Then I found out what had happened. She still used some oil

after she felt

better but stopped the protein. She hated cottagae cheese.

We got her

started on Companion Nutrients.

The next I heard she had driven to the Easter Sunrise

service and was

driving to Knoxville. We stopped to see her a couple of

times and she was

mowing the lawn and caring for her garden. She said she

still had problems

but was improving.

Her daughter who was living with her told me that the

hospice folks

insisted

on keeping her on a " pain patch " even though she didn't seem

to have any

pain by this time when it wasn't on for awhile. She said she

didn't

understand that.

Then she quit using the Companion Nutrients. She gradually

went down hill

and passed away.

At the funeral her daughter told me that the hospice nurse

told her that

when Emma Lee was sent home from the hospital that time the

doctor told her

[the nurse] that Emma Lee could not possibly last 30 days.

She lived over 22 months after that. Ond doctor told me that

the material

in the pain patch alone would damage her heart and liver if

left on that

period of time.

I wonder today if she had used the protein correctly with

the flaxseed oil

after she was back playing the piano in church if she would

not still be

with us. We can only go around once and we can't do it both

ways.

If I learn of any definite results from any one else I will

add it to this

scientifically unacceptable, but nevertheless accurate

anacdotal document.

Cliff

On Monday 13 September 2004 08:03 pm, k & Kim wrote:

> <html><body>

>

>

> <tt>

> Hi everyone... I'm fairly new here and have been reading along with

> everyone's postings. & nbsp; Some people here seem to be quite informed

> and helpful. & nbsp; I am wondering what anyone has heard about

> AMBROTOSE. & nbsp; I would be interested in any feedback

> whatsoever.<BR> <BR>

> Thanks very much,<BR>

> Kim (trying desperately to help my 60 y.o. mom who is battling met.

> breast cancer)<BR> <BR>

>

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