Guest guest Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 > > Has anyone tried taking " pulsed " doses of the herbs? I'm quite new to Lyme and have been trying to increase from 2-3 tablets of Japanese Knotweed and each time, start a pretty major herx. I've gone back to the prior dose of 2 tablets to let the stress on my system ease a bit. I was wondering if anyone has tried taking higher doses, but either less times/day or every other day, and whether that has been of any success. > I haven't tried pulsing, but I think for most herbs it is better to spread out with more, smaller doses over the day than pulsing with a few high doses. The Buhner herbs are supposed to be more protective / restoring than 'killing'. For direct 'killing' as with ABX, it makes sense to try pulsing to temporarily attain a more lethal dose. Theoretically this also depends on how long the herbs stay in your system. If I remember well from the book, knotweed is excreted within some hours (judging from urine color it is passed rather quickly through the system). If the herxing is too strong, stay on the lower dose for another 1-2 weeks and try again increasing. Some can ramp up quickly while others need more time. And some people never get up to the highest dose recommended by Buhner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 I have been pulsing cat's claw and wormwood since January. Salt/C is also used and a coil machine. Sporadic with no pattern. Treya has me doing this to get the last of the bugs out (or at least buried). I do take the milk thistle and knotweed every day tho. The pulsing theory can be to just keep them guessing and prevent them from being resistant I might think. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of knot_weed Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 1:49 AM Subject: [ ] Re: " Pulsing " Doses > > Has anyone tried taking " pulsed " doses of the herbs? I'm quite new to Lyme and have been trying to increase from 2-3 tablets of Japanese Knotweed and each time, start a pretty major herx. I've gone back to the prior dose of 2 tablets to let the stress on my system ease a bit. I was wondering if anyone has tried taking higher doses, but either less times/day or every other day, and whether that has been of any success. > I haven't tried pulsing, but I think for most herbs it is better to spread out with more, smaller doses over the day than pulsing with a few high doses. The Buhner herbs are supposed to be more protective / restoring than 'killing'. For direct 'killing' as with ABX, it makes sense to try pulsing to temporarily attain a more lethal dose. Theoretically this also depends on how long the herbs stay in your system. If I remember well from the book, knotweed is excreted within some hours (judging from urine color it is passed rather quickly through the system). If the herxing is too strong, stay on the lower dose for another 1-2 weeks and try again increasing. Some can ramp up quickly while others need more time. And some people never get up to the highest dose recommended by Buhner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 > > The pulsing theory can be to just keep them guessing and prevent them from > being resistant I might think. yes, I thought of that too; but I doubt it is an important factor with Bb. They are really slow to replicate and on their own 4-5 week cycle anyway (or maybe that's our immune cycle or whatever that they stick to ...). Anyway, unlike with ABX I don't think there is much harm in pulsing with somewhat higher dose with these herbs. If your body thinks it is OK, it probably is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Actually, I've heard not being ridgid in the protocol is a plus - I personally believe wholeheartedly in " kee;in' em guessing " - not using just one herb or portocol without waiver - but that's just me. We have to listen each to our own bodies and not follow someone else's like sheep - do what's right for us. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of knot_weed Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 7:36 AM Subject: [ ] Re: " Pulsing " Doses > > The pulsing theory can be to just keep them guessing and prevent them from > being resistant I might think. yes, I thought of that too; but I doubt it is an important factor with Bb. They are really slow to replicate and on their own 4-5 week cycle anyway (or maybe that's our immune cycle or whatever that they stick to ...). Anyway, unlike with ABX I don't think there is much harm in pulsing with somewhat higher dose with these herbs. If your body thinks it is OK, it probably is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Hi there - I've been reading your posts with that other person I do agree that we need to follow our " gut " in a lot of this and gather ideas from others. My exciting news is that I just found some knotweed! I'm chewing on a slender root now. Some of the stems had a tart taste to them which I liked. Some people cook it like rhubard. It is a very distinctive plant and is not poisonous. So here's to hope! of Vermont > > > > The pulsing theory can be to just keep them guessing and prevent them from > > being resistant I might think. > > yes, I thought of that too; but I doubt it is an important factor with Bb. > They are really slow to replicate and on their own 4-5 week cycle anyway (or > maybe that's our immune cycle or whatever that they stick to ...). > > Anyway, unlike with ABX I don't think there is much harm in pulsing with > somewhat higher dose with these herbs. If your body thinks it is OK, it > probably is > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 WOW, you found it!!! Not sure I've ever seen it in California - would love it if you could send me a picture. I have a big place so could plant it away from the horse pasture. Do you worry about regulating your intake or is that a " gut " dosage. (smiles) in Cali _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of sawzaller Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:06 AM Subject: [ ] Re: " Pulsing " Doses Hi there - I've been reading your posts with that other person I do agree that we need to follow our " gut " in a lot of this and gather ideas from others. My exciting news is that I just found some knotweed! I'm chewing on a slender root now. Some of the stems had a tart taste to them which I liked. Some people cook it like rhubard. It is a very distinctive plant and is not poisonous. So here's to hope! of Vermont > > > > The pulsing theory can be to just keep them guessing and prevent them from > > being resistant I might think. > > yes, I thought of that too; but I doubt it is an important factor with Bb. > They are really slow to replicate and on their own 4-5 week cycle anyway (or > maybe that's our immune cycle or whatever that they stick to ...). > > Anyway, unlike with ABX I don't think there is much harm in pulsing with > somewhat higher dose with these herbs. If your body thinks it is OK, it > probably is > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 Sorry, I had to laugh when I saw your post. I have been trying to eradicate the stuff for years. Here in NJ it is an invasive growing on the other side of my steam trying it's hardest to firmly root itself in the yard. Knotweed loves streambanks, ditches and anywhere there is abundant water. When I heard Dr. Buhner on the radio I almost fell out of the chair when he said knotweed is actually useful. Be careful if you plant it. In fact, plant only in a confined space like an above ground 55 gallon drum. It will spread like wildfire. I just joined this group and have a lot to learn. > > > > > > The pulsing theory can be to just keep them guessing and prevent them > from > > > being resistant I might think. > > > > yes, I thought of that too; but I doubt it is an important factor with Bb. > > They are really slow to replicate and on their own 4-5 week cycle anyway > (or > > maybe that's our immune cycle or whatever that they stick to ...). > > > > Anyway, unlike with ABX I don't think there is much harm in pulsing with > > somewhat higher dose with these herbs. If your body thinks it is OK, it > > probably is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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