Re: Continuation KINESIOLOGY tests - more info

[Guest guest]

Jim, I didn't read the whole site, just the part of HOW TO DO IT and a

bit more. I started doing muscle test before reading that, based on the

DVDs and booklets I bought from dr. K's courses. I just adapted the O-

ring test (which looks pretty similar), just kept changing fingers

until I found out I'm more comfortable with pointers + thumbs.

I just posted that because it seems easier to understand with the

photos.

When I test, I almost always have the HERB in front of me, close to me,

and I concentrate on it. If it's in plastic bag, it sometimes

doesn't 'test'. Or in plastic container, it never tests (we can't read

through plastic, for some reason or anohter). In glass, you can

always 'read' (my naturopath and doctor always use glass containers).

If you have a thin plastic film, you can sometimes read (like when you

buy pills and they're packed in 'trays', not in jars, I don't know the

name in English...).

First question (after the question: is my regulation working?/ open?)

is : 'can I read this inside this package?', in case the herb/ pill is

inside a container. If no, there's nothing you can do: you got to open

the container.

To have stronger effect, you can place the herb on your belly button or

on your belly. But after practice, just having it in front of you will

do the job. You got to be away from EMFs, you got to be without any

metals (including glasses or watches).

It's very important to be neutral. If you think before testing a

herb " this is good for me " , you'll get mistaken answers. The same as if

you think 'this thing is bad for me'.

If you want to be SURE, just ask someone to place the herb in front of

you with your eyes close, they MUST TEST the same as with eyes open. In

case of doubt, do 3 times to be sure. If you do in different days, it's

even better (that's what I do to ask 'is this herb helping for

mycoplasma?', if I get a yes everytime, I start to believe on my

answers). After practice, you'll see you'll get very good answers at

first.

You can also use only your 'mental field', only think about the herb

and ask. In my experience, this is much less precise. You'll get mixed

answers. Unless you have just ingested the herb, and you concentrate on

the thing you ingested naming it, and then test (then it works as well

as if the herb is in front of you or on your belly). The belly area is

the strongest, it seems.

The best is if SOMEONE ELSE tests your arm force or fingers. But as

it's not always possible, well, I find these solitary tests pretty

accurate.

It's not in your mind only. Believe me. It's like when you get near an

allergen. Some people that sneezes with cigarette will feel the

cigarette before the mind knows someone is smoking through sneezing or

running nose (my case). Before I consciously know someone is smoking,

my body starts reacting 'allergy'. This allergy is NOT in my mind.

It's something like that. You place an object/ herb/ person close to

you, it's like your body (your autonomic nervous system) starts

to 'feel' the thing and react, it's an eletrical reaction, said dr. K.

You can test food allergies with that. It works amazingly well for my

little daughter that suffers from many food allergies. I just place a

cookie, chocolate, whatever in front of her and ask her body: can she

eat this?

I get amazing answers, even if I don't KNOW what's inside (I know most

of things that causes her allergies, but I don't know the components of

all cookies, etc). The answers are very precise: she can eat, no she

can't eat. It's not in the mental field only (because I don't know the

content of the cookies) but both in my mind and in my/ her 'electrical'

field! The muscle answer is electrical, if I understood the things I'm

reading well. It has nothing to do with the pendulum, said dr. K. in a

course I saw yesterday in a DVD...

for total non-believers of muscle test, there's way to test muscles in

a way that the person has NO CONTROL at all of his muscle force

(through pulling arms up and making the thumbs meet).

It seems the first ones to have used muscle tests were the Central

American Mayas, who wanted to distinguish between drinkable and non-

drinkable water.

I guess now I can go out in the forest too and ask that, as well as " is

this plant useful for borreliosis? " , " can it be ingested without being

toxic? " etc etc... Maybe another way of 'talkig to plants' that Buhner

was talking about?? Just that you don't need any special training, just

kinesiological training!

But I just say it again: your regulation has to be working well. The

guy in the website said that it is not the case for everyone. In case

your regulation is not working, you HAVE TO discover where the problem

is. Why is it not working. If you touch the right questions, it will

open again, even if for short periods. At least, that's what happened

to me a few times. Dr. K gives some hints how to do that.

good luck!!

Selma

>

> Selma:

>

> I went to that website you posted on Kine???? and am STILL VERY

confused by it. I got into some muscle testing using the REAL THING

back about 1980. BUT it appears THIS thing you are trying, is ONLY in

your mind. Am I correct? You are not testing with the real herb or

whatever, next to your nose?

>

> LOOKS more like MIND OVER MATTER to ME!?!?!?! IF I am reading

those articles right.

>

> Jim.

>

[Guest guest]

Selma,

As I don't have access to ART, what are Dr. K's hints for

opening/fixing dysregulation? Do you have a file or website you can

direct me to?

>

> Jim, I didn't read the whole site, just the part of HOW TO DO IT

and a

> bit more. I started doing muscle test before reading that, based on

the

> DVDs and booklets I bought from dr. K's courses. I just adapted the

O-

> ring test (which looks pretty similar), just kept changing fingers

> until I found out I'm more comfortable with pointers + thumbs.

>

> I just posted that because it seems easier to understand with the

> photos.

>

> When I test, I almost always have the HERB in front of me, close to

me,

> and I concentrate on it. If it's in plastic bag, it sometimes

> doesn't 'test'. Or in plastic container, it never tests (we can't

read

> through plastic, for some reason or anohter). In glass, you can

> always 'read' (my naturopath and doctor always use glass

containers).

> If you have a thin plastic film, you can sometimes read (like when

you

> buy pills and they're packed in 'trays', not in jars, I don't know

the

> name in English...).

>

> First question (after the question: is my regulation working?/

open?)

> is : 'can I read this inside this package?', in case the herb/ pill

is

> inside a container. If no, there's nothing you can do: you got to

open

> the container.

>

> To have stronger effect, you can place the herb on your belly

button or

> on your belly. But after practice, just having it in front of you

will

> do the job. You got to be away from EMFs, you got to be without any

> metals (including glasses or watches).

>

> It's very important to be neutral. If you think before testing a

> herb " this is good for me " , you'll get mistaken answers. The same

as if

> you think 'this thing is bad for me'.

>

> If you want to be SURE, just ask someone to place the herb in front

of

> you with your eyes close, they MUST TEST the same as with eyes

open. In

> case of doubt, do 3 times to be sure. If you do in different days,

it's

> even better (that's what I do to ask 'is this herb helping for

> mycoplasma?', if I get a yes everytime, I start to believe on my

> answers). After practice, you'll see you'll get very good answers

at

> first.

>

> You can also use only your 'mental field', only think about the

herb

> and ask. In my experience, this is much less precise. You'll get

mixed

> answers. Unless you have just ingested the herb, and you

concentrate on

> the thing you ingested naming it, and then test (then it works as

well

> as if the herb is in front of you or on your belly). The belly area

is

> the strongest, it seems.

>

> The best is if SOMEONE ELSE tests your arm force or fingers. But as

> it's not always possible, well, I find these solitary tests pretty

> accurate.

>

> It's not in your mind only. Believe me. It's like when you get near

an

> allergen. Some people that sneezes with cigarette will feel the

> cigarette before the mind knows someone is smoking through sneezing

or

> running nose (my case). Before I consciously know someone is

smoking,

> my body starts reacting 'allergy'. This allergy is NOT in my mind.

>

> It's something like that. You place an object/ herb/ person close

to

> you, it's like your body (your autonomic nervous system) starts

> to 'feel' the thing and react, it's an eletrical reaction, said dr.

K.

>

> You can test food allergies with that. It works amazingly well for

my

> little daughter that suffers from many food allergies. I just place

a

> cookie, chocolate, whatever in front of her and ask her body: can

she

> eat this?

>

> I get amazing answers, even if I don't KNOW what's inside (I know

most

> of things that causes her allergies, but I don't know the

components of

> all cookies, etc). The answers are very precise: she can eat, no

she

> can't eat. It's not in the mental field only (because I don't know

the

> content of the cookies) but both in my mind and in my/

her 'electrical'

> field! The muscle answer is electrical, if I understood the things

I'm

> reading well. It has nothing to do with the pendulum, said dr. K.

in a

> course I saw yesterday in a DVD...

>

> for total non-believers of muscle test, there's way to test muscles

in

> a way that the person has NO CONTROL at all of his muscle force

> (through pulling arms up and making the thumbs meet).

>

> It seems the first ones to have used muscle tests were the Central

> American Mayas, who wanted to distinguish between drinkable and non-

> drinkable water.

>

> I guess now I can go out in the forest too and ask that, as well

as " is

> this plant useful for borreliosis? " , " can it be ingested without

being

> toxic? " etc etc... Maybe another way of 'talkig to plants' that

Buhner

> was talking about?? Just that you don't need any special training,

just

> kinesiological training!

>

> But I just say it again: your regulation has to be working well.

The

> guy in the website said that it is not the case for everyone. In

case

> your regulation is not working, you HAVE TO discover where the

problem

> is. Why is it not working. If you touch the right questions, it

will

> open again, even if for short periods. At least, that's what

happened

> to me a few times. Dr. K gives some hints how to do that.

>

> good luck!!

>

> Selma

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Selma:

> >

> > I went to that website you posted on Kine???? and am STILL

VERY

> confused by it. I got into some muscle testing using the REAL

THING

> back about 1980. BUT it appears THIS thing you are trying, is ONLY

in

> your mind. Am I correct? You are not testing with the real herb

or

> whatever, next to your nose?

> >

> > LOOKS more like MIND OVER MATTER to ME!?!?!?! IF I am reading

> those articles right.

> >

> > Jim.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, his website is neuraltherapy.com, but I didn't find anythign

about this there. You gotta do his courses, I guess. I can summarize

the info one day, but my material is in German and I myself don't

really know how to do it well (I'm just a starter on that).

Are you blocked?

A hint is that if in a moment you get unblocked, you may be touching

the 'iceberg' tip to unblock you. You get to know what is that that

suddenly unblocked you. Sometimes you get near something that can heal

you (a herb, tincture), or you start asking about THE right problem

that mainly blocks you (pshychosomatic for example). Or EMFs. If you

start getting unblocked everytime something happens in a sort of

pattern, you are touching the reason of your blockage, get what I

mean ? That's how I understood, at least.

There are 7 main factors that may block someone. Most common is

pshychological. In my case though, it was the pathogens themselves that

mostly blocked my ANS !! I did lots of EMF tapping, it helped a bit on

that.

Once pathogens got weaker, I got 'open' again. I guess if you're

blocked, you need to get to a practioner, because there are other

things he'll look for (something called 'switching', for example, a

serious problem in your ANS that needs urgency to solve - same as

unblocking your regulation, this is also 'urgent' as according to dr.

K, what shortens the life of a person are not symptoms no matter how

bad they are, but a 'reduced/ blocked' regulation!).

I guess the site on kinesiology I posted is useful for unblocked people

(although he mentions that for some people, it doesn't work and that

you have to 'work' on that problem).

If you're blocked, try to get a few times to a practioner to get

unblocked and then do the rest by yourself. That's the only hint I can

give (as I'm not an expert either!).

EMF tapping is in a site I posted some months ago. If I remember well,

it's in Dr. Mercola's site?

This is amazing by itself, I use this tapping (called MFT in dr.K's

vocabulary) every day, many times a day, with every herbal intake, for

dssensibilization of allergies, to make my body start absorbing

nutrients that my body doesn't absorb (for whatever reason), etc etc.

EMF is easy to learn and very very useful. I even used it to metal

detox, without knowing it, and it was by far, the strongest metal detox

day of my life. Since then I believe our pshychological garbage can

really help making us ill (like helping storaging heavy metals??).

Yesterday I took goat milk, half a cup, for the first time in my life,

I think. I'm 40 years old. I would have died of stomach pains before,

just to think about milk.

I couldn't even stand goat whey, goat cheese, yoghurt, I got awful

tummy aches and/or diarrhea with these. Now I eat all of these, and

yesterday I got brave and tried goat milk for the first time. No pain,

no diarrhea, nothing.

I guess there's a combination of metal detox, getting better from other

toxic loads (canal roots), less infections, and EMF tapping (I did it

expressely for goat products some time ago). Since then, muscle tests

kept saying to me it's fine to take goat milk derivates, and yesterday,

it said 'ok, you can try goat milk now'. I craved for it.

If you can't do kinesiology because you're blocked, do EMF at least

after every herbal intake. You can be sure herbs are better absorbed

like this and you get really relaxed after tapping!

Selma

>

> Selma,

>

> As I don't have access to ART, what are Dr. K's hints for

> opening/fixing dysregulation? Do you have a file or website you can

> direct me to?

>

>