Re: Re: stopping abx - Sonya

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They might have ionic minerals, but I'm not sure. I'll have to look

at my notes this weekend. Remind me if I forget to answer your question.

Aviva

On May 10, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Sonya Putnam wrote:

> Athena, did they recommend specific liquid minerals?

>

> -Sonya

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> Re: [ ] Re: stopping abx - Athena

>

> Athena,

> She has had none of those evaluations. She does have Bart.. You've

> just given me sooo much information in 2 posts! Someone at this

> weekend's conference mentioned topical Mg oil, Mg patch and epsom

> salt baths as different methods of Mg intake. One of the doctors

> also stressed the importance of minerals in liquid form.

> I will look into your suggestions and try to absorb!

> Thank you!

> Aviva

> On May 9, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Athy wrote:

>

>>

>> Has your daughter's doctor has a metabolic comprehensive panel done

>> to make sure her electrolytes are ok? Potassium, calcium,

>> magnesium, sodium? Low mag/cal/pot can add to headaches and cause

>> myalgia.

>>

>> Although, I had severe migraines and myalgia for some time from

>> lyme/bart even while treating it sometimes. I do not have babs.

>>

>> Also had myalgia can be from low pot or mag.

>>

>> Another thing to check: mercury can cause headaches. Has her doctor

>> checked metal levels? Since she is young, I would not recommend

>> doing a " heavy metal challenge " if your doc says to.. if her metals

>> are significant it can stir it all up and make her feel horrible

>> (someone I know with an autistic child did this with their doc and

>> had that happen).

>>

>> Testing without a challenge seems safer in the beginning. Then

>> after chelating a while a challenge works better without side

>> effects.

>>

>> r+lipoic acid taken every 4 hours (except while sleeping) is a

>> gentle beginning chelator along with chlorella and not harmful.. if

>> she tries the chlorella and r+lipoic acid for a while and her

>> headaches diminish.. bingo: mercury/metals.

>>

>> Then people work up to using lipsome EDTA and DMSA which are

>> stronger chelators.

>>

>> Athena

>>

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ok. Remind me if I forget to remind you ;-). Haha. I have a lyme brain I know

your poor daughter does too. But do you?

I ask because I found a nutritional supplement that has helped me stay out of

bed for the last month & a half. It's fruits & veggies, nuts, seeds, probiotics,

enzymes, etc. Similar to Juice Plus but better. Well I joined to be a

distrubutor just for the discount of that product & discovered that they have a

" naturals " line that has liquid minerals, colloidal silver, etc.

Just wondering if we can find out what they recommend so that I can see if I

already have those liquid minerals available.

-Sonya

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Re: [ ] Re: stopping abx - Athena

>

> Athena,

> She has had none of those evaluations. She does have Bart.. You've

> just given me sooo much information in 2 posts! Someone at this

> weekend's conference mentioned topical Mg oil, Mg patch and epsom

> salt baths as different methods of Mg intake. One of the doctors

> also stressed the importance of minerals in liquid form.

> I will look into your suggestions and try to absorb!

> Thank you!

> Aviva

> On May 9, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Athy wrote:

>

>>

>> Has your daughter's doctor has a metabolic comprehensive panel done

>> to make sure her electrolytes are ok? Potassium, calcium,

>> magnesium, sodium? Low mag/cal/pot can add to headaches and cause

>> myalgia.

>>

>> Although, I had severe migraines and myalgia for some time from

>> lyme/bart even while treating it sometimes. I do not have babs.

>>

>> Also had myalgia can be from low pot or mag.

>>

>> Another thing to check: mercury can cause headaches. Has her doctor

>> checked metal levels? Since she is young, I would not recommend

>> doing a " heavy metal challenge " if your doc says to.. if her metals

>> are significant it can stir it all up and make her feel horrible

>> (someone I know with an autistic child did this with their doc and

>> had that happen).

>>

>> Testing without a challenge seems safer in the beginning. Then

>> after chelating a while a challenge works better without side

>> effects.

>>

>> r+lipoic acid taken every 4 hours (except while sleeping) is a

>> gentle beginning chelator along with chlorella and not harmful.. if

>> she tries the chlorella and r+lipoic acid for a while and her

>> headaches diminish.. bingo: mercury/metals.

>>

>> Then people work up to using lipsome EDTA and DMSA which are

>> stronger chelators.

>>

>> Athena

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sonya, I made myself a little list so hopefully I will remember. I

have what they call " mommy brain " . Very similar to lyme brain.

I'm sure she does have liver toxicity. I'll check out your

suggestions. Meanwhile, I'll take your advice on those baths (epsom,

peroxide, baking soda).

Aviva

On May 11, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Sonya Putnam wrote:

> Ok. Remind me if I forget to remind you ;-). Haha. I have a lyme

> brain I know your poor daughter does too. But do you?

>

> I ask because I found a nutritional supplement that has helped me

> stay out of bed for the last month & a half. It's fruits & veggies,

> nuts, seeds, probiotics, enzymes, etc. Similar to Juice Plus but

> better. Well I joined to be a distrubutor just for the discount of

> that product & discovered that they have a " naturals " line that has

> liquid minerals, colloidal silver, etc.

>

> Just wondering if we can find out what they recommend so that I can

> see if I already have those liquid minerals available.

> -Sonya

> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed

>

> Re: [ ] Re: stopping abx - Athena

>>

>> Athena,

>> She has had none of those evaluations. She does have Bart.. You've

>> just given me sooo much information in 2 posts! Someone at this

>> weekend's conference mentioned topical Mg oil, Mg patch and epsom

>> salt baths as different methods of Mg intake. One of the doctors

>> also stressed the importance of minerals in liquid form.

>> I will look into your suggestions and try to absorb!

>> Thank you!

>> Aviva

>> On May 9, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Athy wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> Has your daughter's doctor has a metabolic comprehensive panel done

>>> to make sure her electrolytes are ok? Potassium, calcium,

>>> magnesium, sodium? Low mag/cal/pot can add to headaches and cause

>>> myalgia.

>>>

>>> Although, I had severe migraines and myalgia for some time from

>>> lyme/bart even while treating it sometimes. I do not have babs.

>>>

>>> Also had myalgia can be from low pot or mag.

>>>

>>> Another thing to check: mercury can cause headaches. Has her doctor

>>> checked metal levels? Since she is young, I would not recommend

>>> doing a " heavy metal challenge " if your doc says to.. if her metals

>>> are significant it can stir it all up and make her feel horrible

>>> (someone I know with an autistic child did this with their doc and

>>> had that happen).

>>>

>>> Testing without a challenge seems safer in the beginning. Then

>>> after chelating a while a challenge works better without side

>>> effects.

>>>

>>> r+lipoic acid taken every 4 hours (except while sleeping) is a

>>> gentle beginning chelator along with chlorella and not harmful.. if

>>> she tries the chlorella and r+lipoic acid for a while and her

>>> headaches diminish.. bingo: mercury/metals.

>>>

>>> Then people work up to using lipsome EDTA and DMSA which are

>>> stronger chelators.

>>>

>>> Athena

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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