Guest guest Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 In a message dated 11/19/2005 11:48:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, swimmingwithfish@... writes: May I ask...what is this exactly? Does it come in pill form or powder or what? Where do you all get it? Is it RX or can I get it from a health food store? Thanks so much! Jacqi Good Morning Jacqi I take Cats Claw ....I get it from my Docs office but you can go to _www.allergyresearchgroup.com_ (http://www.allergyresearchgroup.com) ..its on the bottle. You just have to make sure YOUR DOC knows that you want to try it .....as I CAN and DOES cause herxheimer reactions. You also want to make sure you get Cats Claw that is TAO FREE ....and no ...I don't know what that means ?ha ! MY bottle says 'PRIMA UNA de Gato' and it just says its a suppliment. If you can get ahold of a copy of ALTERNATIVES Newspaper there is a super great article in it re the use of Cats Claw for Lyme. It was written by Dr. who also has a website regarding his suppliments ..anyway .....you can order archives from this paper you can call toll free 1-800-718-9293. You can also get free email dispatches at drdavidwilliams.com ..but its the DEC 2004 issue that has this mind blowing story entitled THE NEW GREAT IMPOSTER ....I think it may be one of the best articles I have ever read .....I am not sure how much it costs to get a copy because my LLMD gave it to me. BUT TRY if you can ..because it will really open your eyes. Take care ...Kat ps ..I would never take anything that my LLMD did not approve of ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 In a message dated 11/19/2005 7:59:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bluesky@... writes: Hi Jacqi, The Samento (cat's claw) I bought comes as a tincture in a dropper bottle. I bought it from vrp.com, a very good company with high quality products. I'd read a lot about it on the Lyme and Rife group and here. Then my doctor recommended I try it and suggested that company. Good luck, Deanna You can get the same in a capsule form ...the most important thing is you get one without TAOs ..it will say on the bottle. Again , I would talk to your LLMD first, before adding anything to his orders. I have seen the tincture form and I also hear it works well , but I am so sick of putting liquid of foreign substance into my body that gags me I just can't do it anymore ! BUT that is just me ! I remember being 5 and having my grandmother chase me around the house to get me to take a pink antibiotic after my teeth got knocked out ......like it was YESTERDAY ...I think I was traumatized !!! heeeheee ! I SWEAR ! Good luck ...K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 > May I ask...what is this exactly? Does it come in pill form or powder or > what? Where do you all get it? Is it RX or can I get it from a health food > store? > > Jacqi Hi Jacqi, The Samento (cat's claw) I bought comes as a tincture in a dropper bottle. I bought it from vrp.com, a very good company with high quality products. I'd read a lot about it on the Lyme and Rife group and here. Then my doctor recommended I try it and suggested that company. Good luck, Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 Wow, here's something ironic. heh. Your question reminded me of how I suspect it was my cat who clawed me that gave me lyme in the first place. heh I had a cat who had lyme disease, and gave her a lyme dip solution that the veterinarian gave me. Jacqi, I think someone already answered your question, but it's a supplement that you can get at the healthstore... I have heard that there are different variations though, and strengths. I took a generic, and never felt a thing happen, but that doesn't mean anything...as I only did that for a month. Take care, christina on 11/19/05 10:49 AM, Jacqi at swimmingwithfish@... wrote: May I ask...what is this exactly? Does it come in pill form or powder or what? Where do you all get it? Is it RX or can I get it from a health food store? Thanks so much! Jacqi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 In a message dated 11/20/2005 8:15:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, swimmingwithfish@... writes: I am looking for a LLMD but it HAS to be in Indiana, so the search continues ..... Jacqi Did you try calling the Lyme Disease Association to find an LLMD in your area....the number is toll free ...1-888-366-6611 Good Luck ! K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 In a message dated 11/20/2005 9:35:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, swimmingwithfish@... writes: Yeah, I had called earlier this year. They had some in Michigan and Chicago, IL., but nothing in Indiana. I figure I will try calling again after the first of the year, who knows, maybe I will get lucky! Jacqi Morning Jacqi Many people actually fly here from other states to see my doc. How far away are you from IL or MI ? You need ONE !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Thanks to all who answered my question on cats claw. I do not have a LLMD as of yet, I saw a doc about 5 years ago that gave me two weeks worth of Tx and said I was cured. Of course I have had Lyme since I was 6, actually got it in Lyme CT, and now I am 36...but I am cured... yeah, ok then. I am looking for a LLMD but it HAS to be in Indiana, so the search continues ..... Thanks again for answering my question! Jacqi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Yeah, I had called earlier this year. They had some in Michigan and Chicago, IL., but nothing in Indiana. I figure I will try calling again after the first of the year, who knows, maybe I will get lucky! Jacqi -------Original Message------- Jacqi Did you try calling the Lyme Disease Association to find an LLMD in your area....the number is toll free ...1-888-366-6611 Good Luck ! K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I have tried many places over the last couple years, but have settled on 1st Chinese Herbs. Buhner recommends them for many of the herbs. I find they have come to handle all the herbs needed in his protocols. I don't think just ONE herb will help you that much though. I take about 8 to 10 different herbs or more, in any given day. I don't take Cat's Claw anymore. I quit a few months ago. I do still have some, and may take some again in the future but don't for now. I also don't take Andrographis right now. Talk to at 1st Chinese on their 800 line, she is very helpful. If you want them ready made, I think they have that too, as does Vita Cost, My VitaNet, Herbs-Wholesale, etc.. Jim. ### annlappe <dchris@...> wrote: Anyone know where I can purchase a reliable quality Cats Claw as recommended by SHB for my LD-related vertigo ????? I live in Ontario Canada and finding good quality herbs here has been problematic for me. Thanks dec --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I don't think homeopathic dosages like these can be hard on the liver. When taking 10-20 grams CC a day it is another story. In that case it is probably best to take a break after some months, or have your liver enzymes checked regularly (especially for those who also use antibiotics or other stuff that is hard on the liver). > I have heard here & elsewhere that Cats Claw is hard on the liver & I am > wondering if it matters what form of CC. I take a homeopathic form of > it by Energique, 4 drops twice a day & have been for about 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 I have been using the protocol (Rain Forest Cats Claw, Japanese Knotwood and Andrographis) for about 3 months as well as Boluoke (Lumbokinase) for about one month and have seen significant improvement until 8 days ago. At that time I increased my dose of Cats Claw from 4,000 mg to 4,500 mg and I am now feeling very lousy. I changed nothing else. Buhner writes that Cats Claw is an immune potentiator as well as modulator. Perhaps I am now at too high a dose for me? Cowder writes that the effective dosage varies markedly from patient to patient. Has anybody had a similar experience? Much obliged, Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Similar thing happened with my daughter and her LLMD recommended lowering cat's claw. Besides feeling foggy she had difficulty breathing (air hunger) and both symptoms went away with lower dose. More sasparilla, epsom salt soaks and lots of water helped two. We also face the question on how to decide the need to raise the doses. Does anyone know if the Buhner protocol can be adjusted for weight? Dida On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:41 PM, <wilson33@...> wrote: > > > YES, I have overdone my cat's claw. For me, I think it killed too many bugs > for my system to detox. Sasparilla can help the sysptoms and other detox > measures like castor oil pack, CD and ...more lemon water can't hurt. > > If it were me, I would go back to the original amount till you feel better > and then can you raise it more slowly? Try a smaller raise, wait at least 4 > days for a reaction - perhaps that way you can raise the does. > > Then the question is - why do you feel it necessary to raise the dosage? > > > > _____ > > From: < %40> > [mailto: < %40>] > On Behalf Of B. Ross > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:16 AM > < %40> > Subject: [ ] Cats Claw > > > I have been using the protocol (Rain Forest Cats Claw, Japanese Knotwood > and > Andrographis) for about 3 months as well as Boluoke (Lumbokinase) for about > one month and have seen significant improvement until 8 days ago. > > At that time I increased my dose of Cats Claw from 4,000 mg to 4,500 mg and > I am now feeling very lousy. I changed nothing else. Buhner writes that > Cats Claw is an immune potentiator as well as modulator. Perhaps I am now > at > too high a dose for me? Cowder writes that the effective dosage varies > markedly from patient to patient. Has anybody had a similar experience? > > Much obliged, > > Ross > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 > > Does > anyone know if the Buhner protocol can be adjusted for weight? yes, it should be weight adjusted (especially for children). Buhner has some guidelines in the book (don't remember the details). However, the most important part is listening to your body. There seem to be big differences in what some people need for good effect, or what they can handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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