Re: Lyme aid situation and Fluffy

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

This was bound to happen sometime. My suggestion is that we not respond

to any poster who is disrespectful or uses profanity directed at us.

Take Care,

Joan LI NY

[Guest guest]

If people would like to e-mail Fluffy personally about the big C I don't see

why we could not do it that way.....Also if you don't want to read her post

then don't.

But, I feel that everyone has a right to be here. There will always be a

time when we all don't agree with what the other is saying....If you don't

agree with someone just let it roll off your back and move on to more

important things....We are all to sick and life it to short to be fighting

with each other.......So lets be kind to each other and move on.......

Just a thought....

Hugs to all Faye

[Guest guest]

> Regardless whether the conspiracy theories can be discussed

extensively in

> this group or not, Fluffy went over the line when she made personal

attacks

> and used profanity against other members because she couldn't

accept the

> difference of opinions. I vote that she be expelled because she is

too

> destructive for this group.

i made observations ... very honest ones

>

> Where is our moderator, Robynn? Where was she while this is going

on? Now

> to think of it, I haven't seen her for some time.

gotta get the moderators attention huh

>

> Fluffy is the last thing we need to deal with now.. not with the

trail of

> Dr B coming up.. we cannot afford to be derailed at all. We need to

build up

> the momentum and get as many members to write to new york

politicans and

" cannot afford to be derailed " ...

" momentum " ...

what utter bull this is ... your really heaping up the chit

lyme disease has been derailed into the dark ages many decades ago

and lack of political awareness is one cause

and here you are rallying people ... if they shoot people who are

more political aware, progress can be made ... yeah, right!

> hopefully go to ny rally next month. What made the Gettysburgy

Rally and the

> NYC OPMB possible were the momentum gathered in this wonderful list

along

> with many lyme disease clubs. Again we need to be there for the new

members

> who benefit from our experience, mutual support, and

understanding. We all

> need to feel safe here.

any real activist needs to look deep in their heart and decide

whether they really want to do something real or just use it as an

excuse to only socialize

you need to keep people " safe " from such ideas especially about

government conspiracies

>

> I would hate to see this group destroyed.. It happened to a small

private

you may have an agenda of dumbing down content

i have seen similar people like you on other lists. they prefer to

help the government cover up the dirt ... why ... only they could

answer that question

> group because of one troll.. She managed to upset so many people

that they

> quit and finally because of the failure of the moderator to

interfere, the

> the core members went and set up their own group. I don't want to

see this

here you are again threatening the moderator ... if the mod doesn't

do what you want, you and other like minded will leave

using phrases like " failure of the moderator " ... you are conducting

psychological warfare against the moderator with the THREAT

I have seen these tactics used before. These usually come from people

who " see nothing, know nothing, hear nothing " especially when it

comes to all the government conduct ... essentially participate in

the governments cover up ... they also become the unofficial censors

for the government ...

the best lists never succumb to such threats ... the central question

really is ... does one want dumb down content even if it means losing

a few dumb asses or people who want to assist the government to sweep

the chit under the rug ... sometimes you can't have everything

> happen here. Marta did a wonderul job with this list and I hope to

see it

> continuing to help others as much as it helps me.

>

> We should set up some basic rules.. about respect and ban of

profanity and

you notice profanity but you don't notice the government is screwing

the lyme patient over big time ... if i had to choice of rallying 5

politically aware people or 500 dumb asses, i would choose the

former. in the long run, it will produce the most effective results

> perhaps have a frank discussion what should be discussed in lyme

aid topics

> and what topics are appropriate for off list topics. The group is

for all

you are jockeying to be chairman of the censorship committee

also, chairman of the cover up committee

your, well qualified for both

> members and the wishes of the group should be respected.

>

> I hope my post is clear.. bad brainfog here.

>

> elizabeth

people like you claim brainfog because you know your full of it

your lack of response to anything i said, makes that clear

if your representative of the core group of " activists " ... the lyme

group is politically dead ... pound the nails in the coffin ... and

wish Dr. B good luck

Fluffy

[Guest guest]

the ignore tactic is another very popular tactic.

it doesn't work well since one needs to shut out reality

the reality won't go away by ignoring it

disrespectful means i need to kiss your ass

also, this profanity stuff is nothing but a red herring

Fluffy

> Hi ,

> This was bound to happen sometime. My suggestion is that we not

respond

> to any poster who is disrespectful or uses profanity directed at us.

>

> Take Care,

> Joan LI NY

[Guest guest]

> If people would like to e-mail Fluffy personally about the big C I

don't see

> why we could not do it that way.....Also if you don't want to read

her post

> then don't.

> But, I feel that everyone has a right to be here. There will

always be a

> time when we all don't agree with what the other is saying....If

you don't

> agree with someone just let it roll off your back and move on to

more

> important things....

good attitude

<We are all to sick and life it to short to be fighting

> with each other.......So lets be kind to each other and move

on.......

mistake ... the government is waging a war against the chronically

ill people ... that means that they have their media, front groups

and operatives who contain the threat to their " national security "

interests ... for any real activist, too much of this attitude will

lead to failure

> Just a thought....

> Hugs to all Faye

Fluffy

[Guest guest]

Fluffy,

If you have pertinent information to post, how about you do it in a

civil manner...that doesn't mean you are " ass-kissing " , but being a

respectful member of this group. Otherwise, we will not be receptive (or

will 'ignore', as you put it) to your " information " ...period.

Joan

Sorry, guys, for continuing this thread.

prioris@... writes:

<<disrespectful means I need to kiss your ass>>

[Guest guest]

Well, , ('Fluffy') I see that you finally made it onto this list...

Joan

[Guest guest]

Hi Joan, I thought Fluffy was , too!

Eileen