L-Glutamine

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Elyse, there's glutamine in the undenatured whey; two doses daily

should provide enough. As long as you're getting bloating and

inflammation there's enough irritation going on to reduce healing; the

undenatured whey and selenium will reduce inflammation and the inulin

is your biggest ally to changing bowel ecology toi reduce bloating and

toxin production.

Duncan

>

> What is the thinking on l-glutamine? A friend suggested it to heal

> the gut. I get a lot of bloating and inflammation.

>

> Elyse

>

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I'm soo glad to hear all this, it will be such a relief when symptoms

are lessened.

With the understanding that everybody's different and healing might

happen at different rates, is there are rough idea on when people

start to see a difference?

Elyse

On 2/28/07, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

> Elyse, there's glutamine in the undenatured whey; two doses daily

> should provide enough. As long as you're getting bloating and

> inflammation there's enough irritation going on to reduce healing; the

> undenatured whey and selenium will reduce inflammation and the inulin

> is your biggest ally to changing bowel ecology toi reduce bloating and

> toxin production.

>

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Hi Elyse,

I've read that l-glutamine is essential in healing the gut. I found a great

product from Allergy Research Group called Perm A Vite. It's an intestinal

permeability fourmula and there is a lot of l-glutamine in it. I use this in

conjunction with whey, inulin and the other recommended supplements.

In candidiasis , macedgeca <macedgeca@...> wrote:

>

> What is the thinking on l-glutamine? A friend suggested it to heal

> the gut. I get a lot of bloating and inflammation.

>

> Elyse

>

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That's great Bernadette,

I've heard of it, but thtnks for letting me now that it's a good one to use.

The l-glutamine that I have says to take it ona nempty stomach, but do

you now if it's ok to have something to drink after taking it?

Elyse

On 2/28/07, Bernadette <ladyburna@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Elyse,

> I've read that l-glutamine is essential in healing the gut. I found a great

> product from Allergy Research Group called Perm A Vite. It's an intestinal

> permeability fourmula and there is a lot of l-glutamine in it. I use this in

> conjunction with whey, inulin and the other recommended supplements.

>

> In candidiasis , macedgeca <macedgeca@...> wrote:

> >

> > What is the thinking on l-glutamine? A friend suggested it to heal

> > the gut. I get a lot of bloating and inflammation.

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Hi Elyse.

I react severely to L-Glutamine. It triggers all my CFIDS symptoms. I

can't take it at all, nor anything that contains it. The name is

vaguely tied to the MSG component (glutamate). I don't know how the

atoms differ but for me the reaction is extreme and instant.

R.

>

> > Elyse, there's glutamine in the undenatured whey; two doses daily

> > should provide enough. As long as you're getting bloating and

> > inflammation there's enough irritation going on to reduce

healing; the

> > undenatured whey and selenium will reduce inflammation and the inulin

> > is your biggest ally to changing bowel ecology toi reduce

bloating and

> > toxin production.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

yes I heard that about l-glutamine. Even though I react to MSG, I

haven't noticed anything from glutamine yet. The connection is odd

though.

Elyse

On 3/1/07, chrisruehl <chrisruehl@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Elyse.

>

> I react severely to L-Glutamine. It triggers all my CFIDS symptoms. I

> can't take it at all, nor anything that contains it. The name is

> vaguely tied to the MSG component (glutamate). I don't know how the

> atoms differ but for me the reaction is extreme and instant.

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On 3/1/07, chrisruehl <chrisruehl@...> wrote:

> I react severely to L-Glutamine. It triggers all my CFIDS symptoms. I

> can't take it at all, nor anything that contains it. The name is

> vaguely tied to the MSG component (glutamate). I don't know how the

> atoms differ but for me the reaction is extreme and instant.

Glutamine is readily converted into glutamate, and in fact if your gut

is in need of repair, you'll be generating a lot of glutamate because

that is the byproduct of the healing reaction in the gut. Glutamate

is also found in food and is NOT a bad thing per se; however, some

people, for whatever reason, are sensitive to glutamates and need to

avoid them like the plague.

Sensitivities vary widely. I know one person whose partner gets

seizures from the glutamates in bone broths, whereas I know other

people who are sensitive to MSG but can eat all the bone broth they

want, no matter how cooked, without a reaction.

Chris

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On 3/1/07, chrisruehl <chrisruehl@...> wrote:

>I don't know how the

> atoms differ

Oh, sorry: Glutamate and glutamine are the same thing, except

glutamate has an amine group (nitrogen and hydrogen) stuck on the end

of its side-chain. If you remove the nitrogen, you wind up with

glutamate.

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Still, there is confusion about glutamate; not only are l-glutamine

and glutamate not quite the same as pointed out, the glutamate

salts are not the same either. In other words monopotassium glutamate

will not have the same properties as monosodium glutamate, and other

glutatmate salts also exist.

The body uses huge amounts of glutamine, and unless you know you have

problems with glutamate clearance, it would probably be

counterproductive to avoid this essential amino acid at least in its

peptide form, if not its free form too.

The fact that mother's milk contains large amounts of glutamine

peptides, which underscores not only its importance but the

reliability of the metabolization pathway in mammals.

So, to be on the safe side certainly filtered as opposed to hydrolyzed

and ion exchanged undenatured whey provides lots of primarily

glutamine peptides, while you can still use free form l-glutamine if

you experience no reaction to it.

Duncan

> >I don't know how the

> > atoms differ

>

> Oh, sorry: Glutamate and glutamine are the same thing, except

> glutamate has an amine group (nitrogen and hydrogen) stuck on the end

> of its side-chain. If you remove the nitrogen, you wind up with

> glutamate.

>

> Chris

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So if glutamate is a byproduct of gut healing, then what do people

with glutamate and gut problems do? Do they ahve a reaction everytime

their gut tries to heal?

greg

> Glutamine is readily converted into glutamate, and in fact if your gut

> is in need of repair, you'll be generating a lot of glutamate because

> that is the byproduct of the healing reaction in the gut. Glutamate

> is also found in food and is NOT a bad thing per se; however, some

> people, for whatever reason, are sensitive to glutamates and need to

> avoid them like the plague.

>

> Sensitivities vary widely. I know one person whose partner gets

> seizures from the glutamates in bone broths, whereas I know other

> people who are sensitive to MSG but can eat all the bone broth they

> want, no matter how cooked, without a reaction.

>

> Chris

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I have had bowel problems (diarrhea) since December 06 when I took one drop of

Oil of Oregano. It must have wiped out my small amount of good bacteria is my

guess. Since last Sunday (6 days) I added L-glutamine and selenium to my

routine. I have been so much better. Is this a way to heal and maybe someday

get to take the inulin (too much sugar now) and undenatured whey? I also read

up on the salicylates. I know I have sensitivities to a lot of them. Thanks

for all of your great information.

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Hi,

For very few with irritable bowel,

Oregano oil or Grape fruit seed extract do cause scalding

of the lining & takes long time to get over it.

Aloe vera juice may help in such contingencies.

MM

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Murray wrote:

>

>

> I have had bowel problems (diarrhea) since December 06 when I took one drop of

Oil of Oregano. It must have wiped out my small amount of good bacteria is my

guess. Since last Sunday (6 days) I added L-glutamine and selenium to my

routine. I have been so much better. Is this a way to heal and maybe someday

get to take the inulin (too much sugar now) and undenatured whey? I also read

up on the salicylates. I know I have sensitivities to a lot of them. Thanks

for all of your great information.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On 3/2/07, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

> Still, there is confusion about glutamate; not only are l-glutamine

> and glutamate not quite the same as pointed out, the glutamate

> salts are not the same either. In other words monopotassium glutamate

> will not have the same properties as monosodium glutamate, and other

> glutatmate salts also exist.

Why would monopotassium glutamate be any different? Sodium and

potassium salts are completely dissociable in water.

Chris

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Greg,

> So if glutamate is a byproduct of gut healing, then what do people

> with glutamate and gut problems do? Do they ahve a reaction everytime

> their gut tries to heal?

Glutamate is naturally abundant in the body no matter what. Some

people just have a sensitivity to dietary glutamate, probably because

they have some problem regulating the amounts in their blood and what

reaches the brain. I'm not actually sure what the quantitative impact

of gut healing would be. It would free glutamate but in retrospect I

should have kept my mouth shut because I'm not sure how much glutamate

it would free and whether or not it would make a big difference.

Chris

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,

> I have had bowel problems (diarrhea) since December 06 when I took one drop

> of Oil of Oregano. It must have wiped out my small amount of good bacteria

> is my guess. Since last Sunday (6 days) I added L-glutamine and selenium to

> my routine. I have been so much better. Is this a way to heal and maybe

> someday get to take the inulin (too much sugar now) and undenatured whey? I

> also read up on the salicylates. I know I have sensitivities to a lot of

> them. Thanks for all of your great information.

MM's explanation makes more sense to me -- that you irritated the

lining rather than killed the bacteria. I'm not sure what to do about

it but it sounds like you're making progress and I'm glad to hear it.

Chris

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Thank you so much for your information. I will continue taking the L-glutamine

and selenium.

I had lots of colon bubbling last night; too much Vit C. I took my supplements

and it stopped. I don't know which one stopped it though. I took Selenium, Vit

E and Niacin. Was it the combination or just one of them?

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That l-glutamine direction may be for weight lifting. I think that it depends

on the ultimate purpose, but I've always read that it should be POWDERED

l-glutamine (not capsules) taken on an empty stomach for lgs:

http://www.modernherbalist.com/products/l_glutamine.html

If you find other info, please post as I want to be sure to take it correctly

L-Glutamine

, you wrote:

<<The important thing with L-glutamine is that is should be taken on

an empty stomach. Two hours after a meal & at least a half an hour

before the next meal.>>

I take L-Glutamine 500mg every day and the directions on my bottle

tells me best to take with meals.

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Hi ,

I believe it is best taken on an empty stomach as amino acids compete. If

taken away from food there is nothing to compete against & also optimum

stomach acid for absorption.

Lesley xxx

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, l-glutamine is a major component of milk, a whole food. One

of its functions is to nurture and regenerate the bowel lining, even

as a whole food. I think the manufacturer missed the point or

minimized it in favour of the way they sell their product.

Duncan

>

> <<The important thing with L-glutamine is that is should be taken

on

> an empty stomach. Two hours after a meal & at least a half an hour

> before the next meal.>>

>

> I take L-Glutamine 500mg every day and the directions on my bottle

> tells me best to take with meals.

>

>

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Lesley, even though amino acids compete for first absorption if

you're trying for a specific effect, they do absorb. Take milk for

example; a full suite of amino acids, packed with glutamine, and all

of them keep one healthy

Duncan

>

> Hi ,

>

> I believe it is best taken on an empty stomach as amino acids

compete. If

> taken away from food there is nothing to compete against & also

optimum

> stomach acid for absorption.

>

>

>

> Lesley xxx

>

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Wow, that was a fast response Thanks. I've been taking it on an empty

stomach for a few months, but someone said not too, so I wanted to just double

check.

Take care,

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oops, lol, I just posted this on another forum I subscribe to and got the posts

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I do want to warn about taking l-glutamine too late in the day. It can be stimulating if you take it too late or too much. This happened to me as it caused my mind to race and I could not fall asleep when I divided the dosage and took some in the afternoon. Now I take it all at once on an empty stomach and I have no problems taking 2 tsp (6000 mg or 6 grams). L-glutamine does need to be taken in large doses (5-20 grams) to help heal leaky gut.

Laurie

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Laurie:

What brand L-glutamine do you use do get this effect from.

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I do want to warn about taking l-glutamine too late in the day. It can be stimulating if you take it too late or too much. This happened to me as it caused my mind to race and I could not fall asleep when I divided the dosage and took some in the afternoon. Now I take it all at once on an empty stomach and I have no problems taking 2 tsp (6000 mg or 6 grams). L-glutamine does need to be taken in large doses (5-20 grams) to help heal leaky gut.

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Bonnie,

L glutamine and Glutathione should be taken together. Both are important to the

intestinal cells. Colostrum, Lactoferrin, GI Cell, Aloe Vera and Bee Pollen help

the intestine to heal faster. Colostrum and Bee Pollen increase the intestinal

villi and this is important when you are gluten intolerant. They also help to

fight candida. Keep in mind if what you have if a gluten intolerance and no

Celiac, you don't need to be extremely worried about if some food may be

contaminated with gluten. Celiac people are extremely sensitive to gliadin and

they react severely with a minimun. I don't mean you can eat gluten, but don't

go to the extreme. The best test is to test yourself with gluten and see how you

react with a minimun. Chesse is safe!!!.

.

>

> Hello:

>

> I understand this above Amino Acid is very important for healing and gut

> health. I thought there was some in Whey Protein Powder but all I see on the

> label is Glutamic Acid and I know that's not quite the same thing.

>

> Will someone tell me if I can get L-Glutamine in Whey?

>

> Thanks,

> Bonnie

>

>

>