L-Glutamine

[Guest guest]

,

LOL

Thanks for the warning about the THROTTLE the %^$^*

effect. So often folk forget to include that and the

caregiver, being the first person seen, gets to catch

that effect and try to calm it down. NADH has a nice

big but sporadic component of that for us.

Doris

--- Brown <pbrown@...> wrote:

> From: Brown <pbrown@...>

>

> L-Glutamine is used by some to improve memory and is

> suppose to improve

> blood flow to the brain. It is also used with

> St.'s Wort for some

> cases of depression. The secret of using it is to

> take on an empty

> stomach as it like L-Phenyalanine won't dissolve in

> acid. Both dissolve

> in the intestines - however take only one amino acid

> at a time [4 hours

> apart] as only one will cross the blood-brain

> barrier. The article 2 1/2

> years ago by Dr. ....[don't remember last

> name] in Health

> Counselor magazine mentioned 1000mg daily of L-G OR

> 2000mg daily of L-P

> along with 900mg S.J's W for depression or even bad

> nerves.

> I have never taken 2000mg of L-P but have taken

> 500 or 1000mg. YOU

> HAVE TO TAKE 300-400mg of S J's W with it [L-P] or

> YOU ARE LIABLE TO

> THROTTLE SOMEONE. L-G doesn't affect me like that.

> I use L-G for thinking [provided I haven't

> overdone it too much] and

> L-P with S J's W when I need to drive any distance.

> It takes about an hour and a half for the amino

> acids to work.

> If using S J's W don't drive for at least 1/2 to

> 1 hour until

> sedative effects wear off then when L-P kicks in you

> will be able to

> last more than 15 minutes. When 1st using it I could

> drive about 1 to 2

> hours without stopping. Now about 4 hours if traffic

> isn't too heavy.

> About L-Phenylalanine - some have said the DL

> form doesn't make you

> in a TROTTLE THE %^^ & *()*% mood. Don't know as never

> had the DL form.

> Hope this is clearer than mud. in Ontario

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks , for your detailed explanation, and thanks Tim as well. I'll

pass it over to other PWCs here. Stania

[Guest guest]

,

I second that vote of thanks. I'm going to try L-glutamine tomorrow morning

with my NADH. Hope there is not interaction. But I feel like I still need

help with the " brain fog " . Appreciate all of the information you send our

way.

Judi

Re: L-Glutamine

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>Thanks , for your detailed explanation, and thanks Tim as well. I'll

>pass it over to other PWCs here. Stania

>

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> I once did a Medline search on L-glutamine AND Brigham and Womens

> (Harvard). They've done about 40 studies on it. I'd heard

> that some doctors

> there were using extremely high doses of it to cure the gut

> problems of

> people with AIDS.

High doses like 10 to 20 *GRAMS*/day (at least for AIDS).

In the following study on intestinal permeability (IP) in AIDS:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=9647031 & form=6 & db=m &

Dopt=b

At 4 grams/day IP got worse slower than on a placebo.

At 8 grams/day IP stabilized and improved absorption.

Their conclusion: " Glutamine doses of at least 20 g/day may be necessary to

improve IP "

Patti

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[Guest guest]

People on the Metals list have described reactions to L-glutamine. I

have taken it and haven't reacted poorly to it. J.

[Guest guest]

I had the same reaction as ...and my insomnia got about 10 times

worse, and no matter how exhausted I was I just couldn't sleep. I was

taking 'Maintain' and l-glutamine is the main ingredient. I've been off it

for about 3 weeks now but my sleep is still *terrible*! I had an amino acid

test done which showed my glutamine levels were elevated at 1209 (reference

range 448-1029 umol/L). I'm supplamenting tryptophan and tyrosine but the

short term benefical effect of this seemed to wear off after about 4 days.

yawn,

Emma

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[Guest guest]

Emma,

Can you please tell me what amino acid test you got done? I asked me MD but

he seemed very reluctant.

Did the test show that tryptophan and tyrosine where indicated? (I am trying

to balance out the aminos even if my doc won't give me the test...- I know I

can force him, but it is difficult. Want to keep a good working

relationship with him and augment with a good CFS doc soon if I can find

one - or save my $ and get to Cheney somehow)

And, why did you take the lgutamine in the first place? A need from a test

or to try and boost energy or?

A week off of glutamine and didn't sleep hardly a wink -

> test done which showed my glutamine levels were elevated at 1209

(reference

> range 448-1029 umol/L). I'm supplamenting tryptophan and tyrosine but the

> short term benefical effect of this seemed to wear off after about 4 days.

yawn, Emma

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There have been some significant studies done on L_Glutamine in helping to build

the immune system and also in restoring the HGH levels in your system. Life Lift

has also shown significant improvement in both of these areas in testing.

What this translates to is a healthier, younger, more vibrant body. It makes

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L-Glutamine and Glutiathione are two excellent helps

wendy

L-glutamineMy doctor has prescribed l-glutamine to repair my stomach lining and for carb cravings--it is helping.. Also, granny smith apples are ok to eat on a candida diet..especially if you're like me and cannot tolerate fruit. this is the only one.... Carol Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE !

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My doctor gave me L-Glutamine to help me balance my gut. It seems to be

making my legs ache. Has anyone had this experience?

Thanks,

Marsha

[Guest guest]

L-Glutamine made me wired and hyper, and very irritable, like I wanted to

jump out of my skin. Dr. Cheney said that it was probably because the

glutamine was being inappropriately converted to glutamate, and exitotoxin.

There was some lab work which supports this theory, but I'd have to go way

back through all my test results over the past several years.

Donna in NC

Re: Re: L-Glutamine

> My doctor gave me L-Glutamine to help me balance my gut. It seems to be

making my legs ache. Has anyone had this experience?

>

> Thanks,

> Marsha

[Guest guest]

My legs were aching real bad a few months ago, especially my calf

muscles. Then I ran out of L-glut and they haven't hurt much. I just

got some L-glut in and will increase the dose to see if that was

what was causing the aching legs.

Mike

> My doctor gave me L-Glutamine to help me balance my gut. It seems

to be

> making my legs ache. Has anyone had this experience?

>

> Thanks,

> Marsha

[Guest guest]

>>I just got some L-glut in and will increase the dose to see if that was

what was causing the aching legs.<<

Thanks, Mike. You're the first other person to say this. How has it

helped you otherwise?

Marsha

[Guest guest]

Seattle Lady or anyone else reading along, do you mix your

L-glutamine powder just in water and do you take it immediately right

after your workout?

I have no torn muscles or ammonia problems. I'm using it basically to

relieve the soreness after a powerful workout.

~Crazymaisy~

> I've had ammonia problems.

>

> I started taking glutamine because I have a torn

> muscle and I want to help it heal. Glutamine has

> anti-catabolic properties and I think it's one of the

> reasons that my problems with ammonia have gotten

> better. I'm planning on continuing to take it even

> after the ankle's all better.

[Guest guest]

You might want to read all of this for a functional understanding of

l-glutamine's applicability:

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag99/sep99-report3.html

and here: http://www.lowcarbnexus.com/LGlutamine_Article.htm

Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:12:03 -0700 (PDT)

From: d <whoopsydaisy1960@...>

Subject: L-glutamine

hello again, a question about L-glutamine ...

is this a no-no for O's? I take it that the

" glut " doesn't necessarily mean that it's a

gluten thing?

thanks,

dara

[Guest guest]

Glutamine is one of the ingredients of Betagen. It helps with muscle

recovery, and volumizes muscle cells, but not to the extreme extent

that creatine does, and without any of creatine's side effects. It may

cause you to gain a little bit of water weight, but in your muscles,

not under your skin where you'd look bloated. It also helps with

immune function. I used to always feel run down and catch colds when I

was training hard. Taking vitamin C and glutamine post-workout really

reduced the number of times I was getting sick.

Here's the scoop on glutamine from supplement watch:

http://tinyurl.com/g8u5

On 6/29/05, alysd38 <no_reply > wrote:

> Do any of you use this supplement?

>

> I read about it on the " Ultimate Fat Burners " review site:

>

> http://www.ultimatefatburner.com/

>

> What he said about it that made me try it is that studies have shown

> that supplementing with L-Glutamine seems to increase your levels of

> HGH (which at 44 is a good thing to do). The article also said that

> it seems to help with food cravings and some people report that it

> aids in fat burning.

>

> I started using it about two weeks ago. The only thing I've noticed

> is that, although my work outs have not been anywhere near stellar, my

> muscles seem to be building (more than I would expect from the work

> I've been doing.) The bottle says that it will " volumise " muscle

> tissue...is that code for bloat?

>

> Alys

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[Guest guest]

I've been taking it first thing in the AM (before my work out,

sometimes by as much as 30 minutes) and last thing at night before bed.

Should I move the morning dose to after my work out?

Alys

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I'd probably take it post-workout. Most product labels say to

take glutamine either before and after a workout, or after a workout

and before bed.

On 6/29/05, alysd38 <no_reply > wrote:

> I've been taking it first thing in the AM (before my work out,

> sometimes by as much as 30 minutes) and last thing at night before bed.

>

> Should I move the morning dose to after my work out?

>

> Alys

[Guest guest]

I doubt you could be " allergic " to glutamine since it is endogenous and

widespread, but I do get hyper on L-glutamine which is very irritating

since otherwise it seems to do great things for my guts and muscles and

maybe even immunity. But I can't sleep after taking L-glutamine so I do it

with caution and in small amounts.

n

At 02:32 PM 10/10/05, you wrote:

>Hi, I am wondering if being Allergic to MSG would also make me allergic to

>L-glutamine.

>

>I recently started a nutritional program that contains L-glutamine and

>noticed an extreme

>worsening of eczema symptoms after about 7 days on it. Since I also did a

>DMSA trial at

>the same time for five days I am also wondering if that might have been he

>cause.

>

>Anyone here get a reaction to L-glutamine?

>

>regards

>

>paul d.

>

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>This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

>other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

>discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

[Guest guest]

I am not sure what causes the allergic reaction to MSG, but I understand that

they use

ammonia to extact it and they apparently do the same for L-glutamine. Another

reason

might be that in the extracted form it is unbound. There is also the possibility

that it

activates a certain virus since certain amino acids seem to do this.

> >Hi, I am wondering if being Allergic to MSG would also make me allergic to

> >L-glutamine.

> >

> >I recently started a nutritional program that contains L-glutamine and

> >noticed an extreme

> >worsening of eczema symptoms after about 7 days on it. Since I also did a

> >DMSA trial at

> >the same time for five days I am also wondering if that might have been he

> >cause.

> >

> >Anyone here get a reaction to L-glutamine?

> >

> >regards

> >

> >paul d.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

> >other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

> >discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> >

[Guest guest]

That's because its elevating your glutamate which is neurotoxic. Same

with MSG.

THis list would benefit greatly from watching Amy Yasko's DVD's and

reading her books.

> >Hi, I am wondering if being Allergic to MSG would also make me

allergic to

> >L-glutamine.

> >

> >I recently started a nutritional program that contains L-glutamine

and

> >noticed an extreme

> >worsening of eczema symptoms after about 7 days on it. Since I

also did a

> >DMSA trial at

> >the same time for five days I am also wondering if that might have

been he

> >cause.

> >

> >Anyone here get a reaction to L-glutamine?

> >

> >regards

> >

> >paul d.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences

with each

> >other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment

> >discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi

I have problems with MSG and not with l-glutamine. Rich had an explanation for

why glutamine is different than glutamate. You can probably find that in the

archives if you do a search.

Doris

----- Original Message -----

From: Doyon

Hi, I am wondering if being Allergic to MSG would also make me allergic to

L-glutamine.

I recently started a nutritional program that contains L-glutamine and noticed

an extreme

worsening of eczema symptoms after about 7 days on it. Since I also did a DMSA

trial at

the same time for five days I am also wondering if that might have been he

cause.

Anyone here get a reaction to L-glutamine?

[Guest guest]

At 02:18 AM 11/10/05, you wrote:

>That's because its elevating your glutamate which is neurotoxic. Same

>with MSG.

Jill1313

But not with most people, so the question for some of us is why and what

can we do about it?

n

[Guest guest]

n I just read your history . Sorry...sympathies.

It is a combination of genetic vulnerabilities and environmental

insults. I think Blake's suggestion is a good one--study Yasko's work.

ANother good idea is to get Levine's book on antioxidants (its

a classic, been out for a while). He's head of Allergy Research Group.

He got MCS after benzene exposure as a molecular biologist in the lab.

He had to take off a few years and he recovered by administering trace

minerals and antioxidants, esp selenium.

> >That's because its elevating your glutamate which is neurotoxic.

Same

> >with MSG.

>

> Jill1313

> But not with most people, so the question for some of us is why and

what

> can we do about it?

> n

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the clues , I'll follow up on the books when I get organised

enough. I'm a selenium junkie as you might have seen by my earlier post, so

this sounds like a good start.

Unfortunately I have not lost a single chemical sensitivity in all my life

- every wensitivity I have acquired I have kept, so I am not so optimistic

about a " cure " . I would be very keen on any other ideas for overcoming

MCS, fully or partially. I thought the CFS/Lyme was bad, but this is

killing me.

Cheers

n

At 11:30 AM 11/10/05, you wrote:

>He's head of Allergy Research Group.

>He got MCS after benzene exposure as a molecular biologist in the lab.

>He had to take off a few years and he recovered by administering trace

>minerals and antioxidants, esp selenium.

n

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