Guest guest Posted November 16, 2000 Report Share Posted November 16, 2000 Hi , >But the >prescription doesn't specify hydroxycobalamin or the concentration, and >although he intended it to be used for a month, with the recent discussion >about the safety of using smaller vials versus the larger bottle has me >concerned. (I have MVP) So I'm not sure what to do. I would talk to the pharmacist (unless your doc is easy to get on the phone) and explain the situation. Ask if the prescription your doc wrote will give you the concentration you need, and request that it be in small vials (did someone say 10cc max? I can't remember...). If he says he can't do what you want with the prescription you have, ask what your doc would have to do differently in writing the prescription. Don't forget to ask about whether or not it will by hydroxy! I think cyanocobalamin is sort of the " default " b-12 usually, and that's the one no one likes. >Second to that, I have no idea if the prescription includes the syringes and >needles necessary for injecting, or how I go about getting those. You will get syringes with your b-12, but be sure to make it clear that you need them! If you don't know what size, ask the pharmacist what size you need for the type of injections you will be doing. >The doctor >said that when I got the B-12, to bring it in to the office and they'd show >me how to do the shots. I'm not sure if I'm also supposed to have the >syringes at that time. I would think that the doc's office would have the syringes, but if I were you I would bring a few in just in case. They might not have the right size needle or something, and this way you will be sure. Good luck! Also, my experience has been that most pharmacists are really nice, but once in a while you get a crabby one. If you have a pharmacy you need to use because of your health insurance, but the guy there gives you a hard time about the dosage or something, you can always call a different pharmacy just to ask questions. Once I called every pharmacy in my hometown to ask about a med I didn't now much about. ;-) Corina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 I see no problem laying on the bed but don't feel you need to pinch the skin. The shot needs to be IM and yes aspirate to be sure your not in a vain. Phil don defevers <dd4459@...> wrote: IS it o.k. to lie down on the bed on your belly to get shot in the glute. Also do you have to pinch up the skin to put in needle or can you just go straighy in the glute? Also do I have to aspirate the plunger before I inject? MY son does the shot for me and it seems it would be easier to push the plunger down given the T is so thick. --------------------------------- Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Isn't one of the advantages of glutes (and ventroglutes) for injection that there are no veins or nerves to hit in those areas? If so, aspiration wouldn't be necessary, assuming you are accurate enough in the site selection, correct? > Re: Injection Question > >I see no problem laying on the bed but don't feel you need to >pinch the skin. The shot needs to be IM and yes aspirate to >be sure your not in a vain. > Phil > >don defevers <dd4459@...> wrote: > IS it o.k. to lie down on the bed on your belly to get shot >in the glute. Also do you have to pinch up the skin to put in >needle or can you just go straighy in the glute? Also do I >have to aspirate the plunger before I inject? MY son does the >shot for me and it seems it would be easier to push the >plunger down given the T is so thick. > > > > >--------------------------------- > Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo >Books. You design it and we'll bind it! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 If you shot T into a vein it can kill you so aspiration is nessary. I don't do my shots with a big needle I use a 27g x 1/2 lg. and shot into my thy. Now doing this you don't need to check to see if your in a vein. Phil Dave <daultman@...> wrote: Isn't one of the advantages of glutes (and ventroglutes) for injection that there are no veins or nerves to hit in those areas? If so, aspiration wouldn't be necessary, assuming you are accurate enough in the site selection, correct? > Re: Injection Question > >I see no problem laying on the bed but don't feel you need to >pinch the skin. The shot needs to be IM and yes aspirate to >be sure your not in a vain. > Phil > >don defevers wrote: > IS it o.k. to lie down on the bed on your belly to get shot >in the glute. Also do you have to pinch up the skin to put in >needle or can you just go straighy in the glute? Also do I >have to aspirate the plunger before I inject? MY son does the >shot for me and it seems it would be easier to push the >plunger down given the T is so thick. > > > > >--------------------------------- > Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo >Books. You design it and we'll bind it! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 I've hit both viens and nerves in the thigh in the past, with both T and B12 shots. I would definitely aspirate in thigh injections just to be safe. My comment re in the glutes was in theory...I'd aspirate in the glutes too, though it seems like nurses don't. > Re: Injection Question >> >>I see no problem laying on the bed but don't feel you need to >pinch the >>skin. The shot needs to be IM and yes aspirate to be sure >your not in a >>vain. >> Phil >> >>don defevers > wrote: >> IS it o.k. to lie down on the bed on your belly to get shot in the >>glute. Also do you have to pinch up the skin to put in needle or can >>you just go straighy in the glute? Also do I have to aspirate the >>plunger before I inject? MY son does the shot for me and it seems it >>would be easier to push the plunger down given the T is so thick. >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------- >> Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo >>Books. You design it and we'll bind it! >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Dave, This is off the topic but have you been helped by B12? I would do anything to get more energy and suggested B12 to my dr but he hasn't prescribed anything yet. Dave Dave <daultman@...> wrote: I've hit both viens and nerves in the thigh in the past, with both T and B12 shots. I would definitely aspirate in thigh injections just to be safe. My comment re in the glutes was in theory...I'd aspirate in the glutes too, though it seems like nurses don't. > Re: Injection Question >> >>I see no problem laying on the bed but don't feel you need to >pinch the >>skin. The shot needs to be IM and yes aspirate to be sure >your not in a >>vain. >> Phil >> >>don defevers > wrote: >> IS it o.k. to lie down on the bed on your belly to get shot in the >>glute. Also do you have to pinch up the skin to put in needle or can >>you just go straighy in the glute? Also do I have to aspirate the >>plunger before I inject? MY son does the shot for me and it seems it >>would be easier to push the plunger down given the T is so thick. >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------- >> Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo >>Books. You design it and we'll bind it! >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 You can get B12 off the shelf in any pharmacy > Re: Injection Question > >> > >>I see no problem laying on the bed but don't feel you need to > >pinch the > >>skin. The shot needs to be IM and yes aspirate to be sure > >your not in a > >>vain. > >> Phil > >> > >>don defevers > > wrote: > >> IS it o.k. to lie down on the bed on your belly to get shot in the > >>glute. Also do you have to pinch up the skin to put in > needle or can > >>you just go straighy in the glute? Also do I have to aspirate the > >>plunger before I inject? MY son does the shot for me and it > seems it > >>would be easier to push the plunger down given the T is so thick. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>--------------------------------- > >> Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. > >>You design it and we'll bind it! > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Hi Nick I thought all indictable were POM? I get my B12 ampoules on prescription and have not tried to get OTC but assumed as the B12 is for injection that this would be automatically classifies as POM? Kind regards, _________________________________________ Randle _________________________________________ Re: Injection Question > >> > >>I see no problem laying on the bed but don't feel you need to > >pinch the > >>skin. The shot needs to be IM and yes aspirate to be sure > >your not in a > >>vain. > >> Phil > >> > >>don defevers > > wrote: > >> IS it o.k. to lie down on the bed on your belly to get shot in the > >>glute. Also do you have to pinch up the skin to put in > needle or can > >>you just go straighy in the glute? Also do I have to aspirate the > >>plunger before I inject? MY son does the shot for me and it > seems it > >>would be easier to push the plunger down given the T is so thick. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>--------------------------------- > >> Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. > >>You design it and we'll bind it! > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 INJECTABLE B12....? > Re: Injection Question >> >> >> >>I see no problem laying on the bed but don't feel you need to >> >pinch the >> >>skin. The shot needs to be IM and yes aspirate to be sure >> >your not in a >> >>vain. >> >> Phil >> >> >> >>don defevers >> > wrote: >> >> IS it o.k. to lie down on the bed on your belly to get >shot in the >> >>glute. Also do you have to pinch up the skin to put in >> needle or can >> >>you just go straighy in the glute? Also do I have to aspirate the >> >>plunger before I inject? MY son does the shot for me and it >> seems it >> >>would be easier to push the plunger down given the T is so thick. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------- >> >> Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover >Photo Books. >> >>You design it and we'll bind it! >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 I don't know if it made a difference or not. Not enough of one to keep using the stuff if it did. The medical folks say B12 injections are only needed if you have pernicious anemia, and are a waste for the rest of us. Diet doctors give it to people routinely, perhaps as a prophylactic to malnutriotion(?). You can buy the stuff directly on ebay or OTC in Mexico or Canada if not in your state. > Re: Injection Question >>> >>>I see no problem laying on the bed but don't feel you need to >>pinch the >>>skin. The shot needs to be IM and yes aspirate to be sure >>your not in a >>>vain. >>> Phil >>> >>>don defevers >> wrote: >>> IS it o.k. to lie down on the bed on your belly to get shot in the >>>glute. Also do you have to pinch up the skin to put in needle or can >>>you just go straighy in the glute? Also do I have to aspirate the >>>plunger before I inject? MY son does the shot for me and it seems it >>>would be easier to push the plunger down given the T is so thick. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------- >>> Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. >>>You design it and we'll bind it! >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 You can get B12 in 1000 microgram pills off the shelf. I used them when I was deficient. It restored levels after a while. Now I take them occasionally just to keep my levels up Best wishes Nick > Re: Injection Question > > Hi Nick > > I thought all indictable were POM? I get my B12 ampoules on > prescription and have not tried to get OTC but assumed as the > B12 is for injection that this would be automatically > classifies as POM? > > Kind regards, > > > > _________________________________________ > Randle > _________________________________________ > Re: Injection Question > > >> > > >>I see no problem laying on the bed but don't feel you need to > > >pinch the > > >>skin. The shot needs to be IM and yes aspirate to be sure > > >your not in a > > >>vain. > > >> Phil > > >> > > >>don defevers > > > wrote: > > >> IS it o.k. to lie down on the bed on your belly to get > shot in the > > >>glute. Also do you have to pinch up the skin to put in > > needle or can > > >>you just go straighy in the glute? Also do I have to aspirate the > > >>plunger before I inject? MY son does the shot for me and it > > seems it > > >>would be easier to push the plunger down given the T is so thick. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>--------------------------------- > > >> Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover > Photo Books. > > >>You design it and we'll bind it! > > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 > INJECTABLE B12....? Of course. If your B12 deficiency is pernicious anaemia ie from gut (malabsorption from gut) then it is only by injections into your muscle that you can get the B12 into your body. Didn't Dave post he injected both T and B12 into his thigh? I do as well. Re: Injection Question >>> >> >>> >>I see no problem laying on the bed but don't feel you need to >>> >pinch the >>> >>skin. The shot needs to be IM and yes aspirate to be sure >>> >your not in a >>> >>vain. >>> >> Phil >>> >> >>> >>don defevers >>> > wrote: >>> >> IS it o.k. to lie down on the bed on your belly to get >>shot in the >>> >>glute. Also do you have to pinch up the skin to put in >>> needle or can >>> >>you just go straighy in the glute? Also do I have to aspirate the >>> >>plunger before I inject? MY son does the shot for me and it >>> seems it >>> >>would be easier to push the plunger down given the T is so thick. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>--------------------------------- >>> >> Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover >>Photo Books. >>> >>You design it and we'll bind it! >>> >> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 I realize you can be B12 pills in any drug store but I was interested in the injectable B12. I understand that is only available by prescription...unless you order from Mexico or some place like that. Randle <peter_randle@...> wrote: > INJECTABLE B12....? Of course. If your B12 deficiency is pernicious anaemia ie from gut (malabsorption from gut) then it is only by injections into your muscle that you can get the B12 into your body. Didn't Dave post he injected both T and B12 into his thigh? I do as well. Re: Injection Question >>> >> >>> >>I see no problem laying on the bed but don't feel you need to >>> >pinch the >>> >>skin. The shot needs to be IM and yes aspirate to be sure >>> >your not in a >>> >>vain. >>> >> Phil >>> >> >>> >>don defevers >>> > wrote: >>> >> IS it o.k. to lie down on the bed on your belly to get >>shot in the >>> >>glute. Also do you have to pinch up the skin to put in >>> needle or can >>> >>you just go straighy in the glute? Also do I have to aspirate the >>> >>plunger before I inject? MY son does the shot for me and it >>> seems it >>> >>would be easier to push the plunger down given the T is so thick. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>--------------------------------- >>> >> Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover >>Photo Books. >>> >>You design it and we'll bind it! >>> >> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Hi This is the UK's info and it clearly states POM (Prescription-Only Medicine). Just search the USA site for availability - dale might state this. Hydroxocobalamin (Non-proprietary) Injection, hydroxocobalamin 1 mg/mL. Net price 1-mL amp = £2.46 Note .. The BP directs that when vitamin B12 injection is prescribed or demanded hydroxocobalamin injection shall be dispensed or supplied Brands include Cobalin-H® , Neo-Cytamen® _________________________________________ Re: Injection Question >>> >> >>> >>I see no problem laying on the bed but don't feel you need to >>> >pinch the >>> >>skin. The shot needs to be IM and yes aspirate to be sure >>> >your not in a >>> >>vain. >>> >> Phil >>> >> >>> >>don defevers >>> > wrote: >>> >> IS it o.k. to lie down on the bed on your belly to get >>shot in the >>> >>glute. Also do you have to pinch up the skin to put in >>> needle or can >>> >>you just go straighy in the glute? Also do I have to aspirate the >>> >>plunger before I inject? MY son does the shot for me and it >>> seems it >>> >>would be easier to push the plunger down given the T is so thick. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>--------------------------------- >>> >> Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover >>Photo Books. >>> >>You design it and we'll bind it! >>> >> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Any reason you can't split the injections equally for each arm? Just asking. Carol asked: i've just got a question. i'm on xolair 375 mg every 2 weeks. i've been injecting myself since my 3rd or 4th dose TWO years ago! this past year i've been doing it unsupervised (YEAH -- no " babysitters " to watch me in the drs office!!). when the xolair rep originally came to show us what to do, he set up my injections as (2) 1.2 mL injections and (1) .6 mL injection. we roate injection sites - both thighs, stomach and left arm. when i inject the 1.2 mL of xolair into my arm, i get a bubble/bump, probably the size of a quarter. its almost like my arm cannot absorb the xolair as fast as i'm pushing it in (and trust me, its not fast -- its like jello going in - LOL). the bubble goes away after 4-6 hours, i guess as my arm absorbs the xolair. i don't get a bubble with the .6 mL injection into my arm. the other injection sites go into fattier tissue, so i'm guessing that's why i don't get a bubble there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 i'm not sure why they can't be split. when the original rep from xolair came to show the office staff how to mix it and everything, he said you do 1.2, 1.2 and ..6 . his reasoning was that there was 1.2 in each vial after it was reconstituted. a few doses later, a xolair nurse came to show me how to mix and inject it. she changed the orders to 1, 1, 1, but my dr wasn't fond of someone coming in and just changing orders without talking to her (actually, it was the office nurses who ran the crusade). we went back to the original doses and its stayed like that ever since. <shrug> heather Carol Corley <mybouvs@...> wrote: Any reason you can't split the injections equally for each arm? Just asking. Carol asked: i've just got a question. i'm on xolair 375 mg every 2 weeks. i've been injecting myself since my 3rd or 4th dose TWO years ago! this past year i've been doing it unsupervised (YEAH -- no " babysitters " to watch me in the drs office!!). when the xolair rep originally came to show us what to do, he set up my injections as (2) 1.2 mL injections and (1) .6 mL injection. we roate injection sites - both thighs, stomach and left arm. when i inject the 1.2 mL of xolair into my arm, i get a bubble/bump, probably the size of a quarter. its almost like my arm cannot absorb the xolair as fast as i'm pushing it in (and trust me, its not fast -- its like jello going in - LOL). the bubble goes away after 4-6 hours, i guess as my arm absorbs the xolair. i don't get a bubble with the .6 mL injection into my arm. the other injection sites go into fattier tissue, so i'm guessing that's why i don't get a bubble there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 There is no medical or pharmaceutical reason you can't split your injections into 1, 1 & 1. The head pharmacist at Genentech thought it would be easier for 'lay' people (non-medical persons) to use up and entire vial instead of stopping at the 1cc mark, and half of the third vial. Educated people (even children) can see the 1cc mark on the syringe. If it is easier for you to do 1,1,1 there is no reason you shouldn't. If the 1.2 cc gives you a bubble or lump, I suggest the 1cc three times to help avoid it. Certainly speak to your physician and tell him why you want to do the 1,1,1. I am sure he shouldn't have a problem. It all adds up to the same dose and makes you more comfortable. Pat --------------------------------- Relax. virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 I tried once to give myself a shot in the stomach and I couldn't even get it to go in, it was way too tough for me. I inject exclusively in the thighs and find it goes in much easier. Of course, nothing stops the burning, I am just talking about the ease of injecting. > > So far I have gotten 3 Humira shots, all in my abdomen, rotating sides > back and forth. The dvd that came with it said that you can use legs > too and should preferably rotate to all four spots. Anyone use their > thigh? Does it hurt any worse than the tummy? I have plenty of fat to > pinch on my stomach, just seems like the leg would hurt worse, my > imagination or fact? > > Thanks > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Thanks Marcia. Now I just have to be brave enough to actually do it myself. So far I've had my father in law (who is a dr) do my injections. But, I need to get over that initial fear and do it myself So far I have gotten 3 Humira shots, all in my abdomen, rotating sides > back and forth. The dvd that came with it said that you can use legs > too and should preferably rotate to all four spots. Anyone use their > thigh? Does it hurt any worse than the tummy? I have plenty of fat to > pinch on my stomach, just seems like the leg would hurt worse, my > imagination or fact? > > Thanks > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 I might just try that ice on the thigh if I get brave enough to try it~ I've been leaving my syringes out about 1/2hr to warm up, not sure if it helps or not though > > I put an ice pack on the location I will inject in for about 15 minutes > prior to get numb pretty deep in the skin. I also leave the Humira out of the > fridge for that 15 minutes to warm up a bit. The number I am and the warmer it > is the less it hurts. And then I place the ice pack directly back on it for > probably 5 more minutes and it's smooth sailing from there. > > > ._.-'¯(_._.-'¯(_ ._.-'¯(_._.-'¯(_ > Enjoying the Dog Days of Summer! > ....¢¢¢,...¢¢¢, ..¢¢¢,... > .((* " *)) §* " *§.((* " *)). > (¯D.C¯)(¯D.C¯)(¯D-C¯) > ~~~~~(¯¯¯¯¯)(¯¯¯¯¯)(¯¯¯¯¯)~~~~~ > sesm..|-I-|..|-I-|..|¯I¯|.›‹3 " ‹ > `- " -'..`- " -'..`- " -' > © © Alli > _)¯'-._._)¯'-._._)¯'-._._)¯'-._._)¯'-._._)¯'-._. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 , Thanks for that info. That is my biggest fear with actually giving the shot myself. I'm afraid that as soon as I hit skin I'm going to instinctively pull backwards- I've had three shots so far and so far I've been too chicken to do them myself. But the next one I am determined to try it, and think I'm going to try the thigh, more of a direct hit > > > > So far I have gotten 3 Humira shots, all in my abdomen, rotating sides > > back and forth. The dvd that came with it said that you can use legs > > too and should preferably rotate to all four spots. Anyone use their > > thigh? Does it hurt any worse than the tummy? I have plenty of fat to > > pinch on my stomach, just seems like the leg would hurt worse, my > > imagination or fact? > > > > Thanks > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Tracie I do humeri and MTX injections, really Now i would rather do a shot myself than have someone else do it! I went rheumy Tuesday and she wanted me to have a MTX shot, I took the needle from the nurse and id it, Really after that first time it is not so bad, and yes it does help to let it come to room temp. in WIi_live_in_slippers <bart.tracy@...> wrote: Thanks Marcia. Now I just have to be brave enough to actually do it myself. So far I've had my father in law (who is a dr) do my injections. But, I need to get over that initial fear and do it myself So far I have gotten 3 Humira shots, all in my abdomen, rotating sides > back and forth. The dvd that came with it said that you can use legs > too and should preferably rotate to all four spots. Anyone use their > thigh? Does it hurt any worse than the tummy? I have plenty of fat to > pinch on my stomach, just seems like the leg would hurt worse, my > imagination or fact?> > Thanks> > > > > > > __________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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