Re: Bee Venom & Dr Mercola

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2001, philcome wrote:

> Is anyone familar with this bee venom protocol mentioned on Dr Mercola's

website? I am intrigued by Dr Klinghardt's work as my dentist has been trained

by him and used his techniques for cavitation healing.

>

> http://www.mercola.com/2000/jul/23/bee_venom_lyme.htm

Hi Phil:

I am not sure if I mentioned this to you before or not. When my

wife was more active and our lives allowed us a bit more time I learned

that BVT was being used for MS. I went to South New Jersey (with her) to

learn the procedure and then ordered my own bees and did the treatment at

home. I bought appropriate books to learn from.

We were pleased with the result, as no other medications were of

help to her (steroids for MS were always given then for exaserbations and

they were only a temporary help) and she experienced a reduction in muscle

stiffness, returning warmth in the limbs, much less pain and a return of

energy levels as well as better cognitive function. We kept this up as

long as I could until time constraints stopped me.

>

> Phil

-GLEN in Hunterdon County, NJ.

[Guest guest]

> Gigi on Lyment " Flash " uses bee venom therapy. Dr. Klinghardt is

her Dr. She would be glad to answer any of your questions.

> > Is anyone familar with this bee venom protocol mentioned on Dr

Mercola's website? I am intrigued by Dr Klinghardt's work as my

dentist has been trained by him and used his techniques for

cavitation healing.

> >

> > http://www.mercola.com/2000/jul/23/bee_venom_lyme.htm

>

> Hi Phil:

> I am not sure if I mentioned this to you before or not. When

my

> wife was more active and our lives allowed us a bit more time I

learned

> that BVT was being used for MS. I went to South New Jersey (with

her) to

> learn the procedure and then ordered my own bees and did the

treatment at

> home. I bought appropriate books to learn from.

> We were pleased with the result, as no other medications were

of

> help to her (steroids for MS were always given then for

exaserbations and

> they were only a temporary help) and she experienced a reduction in

muscle

> stiffness, returning warmth in the limbs, much less pain and a

return of

> energy levels as well as better cognitive function. We kept this

up as

> long as I could until time constraints stopped me.

>

> >

> > Phil

>

> -GLEN in Hunterdon County, NJ.

[Guest guest]

I wrote a rather lengthly reply to your question and then deleted it.

I don't want to type it all over again just now, but I did bee sting

therapy for about 4 months. I had increased pain and no significant

beneficial results (only occasional brief burst of energy like

adrenaline or something). I have the same increase in pain on 9 weeks

of ABX with no benefit yet only the pain is worse and I also have real

herxes which I didn't really have on the bee venom. One difference

though is that you can't take NSAIDS while on bee venom because it

increases the risk of anaphylaxis.  It is touted as a powerful

anti-inflamatory, but I was really not impressed, but maybe that's

just my body. A friend who has had a numb wrist from tendonitis for

many years was recently stung on that wrist by a yellow jacket and

within 5 minutes it was tremendously improved for about 3 days.

Stories like that are not uncommon. I have communicated with two

people who had lyme, treated it with antibiotics, and now control

their " fibromyalgia " symptoms with bee stings. Here's a URL to

klinghardts protocol.

http://www.neuraltherapy.com/a_lime_disease.asp He recommends points

to sting, herbs etc.. mostly garlic which I am allergic to. I stung

mostly on my spine and didn't do any herbs. I'd bee happy to answer

any questions I can about stinging. I may start again at some point??

You can also try the american apitherapy society online, but everytime

I try to get to their page lately I get pages of porno adds. I think

its http://www.apitherappy.org or used to be anyway. Good luck. Well

there, I ended up retyping most of it anyway!

E

> Is anyone familar with this bee venom protocol mentioned on Dr

Mercola's website? I am intrigued by Dr Klinghardt's work as my

dentist has been trained by him and used his techniques for cavitation

healing.

>

> http://www.mercola.com/2000/jul/23/bee_venom_lyme.htm

>

> Phil

>

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