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I hope no one is offended or annoyed with this post because I am

going to ask a question. I have done research on herxing and I

haven't seen any evidence that herxing can cause a fever. Have any

of you, in your personal experience, had bad fevers while herxing?

Also have any of you had swollen glands and head pain (not headaches)

while herxing? Just looking for your personal expereinces and I am

not asking for a concrete answer to this question.

Lyra

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Just looking for your personal expereinces and I am

> not asking for a concrete answer to this question.

When I had my first herx I had a temp of 104, normally its 96-97. I was cold

and clammy to the touch and could not get warm. I wore sweats and then layed

in bed with several blankets and a comforter. TG this didnt last long.

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Lyra,

I have run low grade fevers with herxes, by that I mean 99.0 to 100.0, I

have found that since I have acquired Lyme disease my temperature is lower

than normal....some theorize it is because the spirochetes do not like heat.

Many here on the list will agree that they run lower temps than pre-LD now.

Therefore when temp is 99-100, actually you are running a temp. When I

ended up in hospital last September delirious, delusional, convulsing, and

totally out of it, I was told my temperature in the ER was 101.5. Maybe in

actuality it was 103 to 104 in a normal person? Have you found the Lyme

Alliance web site? They have great medical abstracts and reports there,

look for articles by Tom Grier:

http://www.lymealliance.org/Research/research.html

http://www.lymealliance.org/Medical/medical.html

http://www.lymealliance.org/Newsletter/newsletter.html

Their newsletter is great, worth subscribing too, but you can read back

issues at the site.

Yes, I have suffered head pain, swollen glands, even under my arm pits,

and groin, while herxing.

As for fevers, I once took my son to a doctor who told me, " Fever is a

wonderful thing, it is the body's way of fighting infections "

Marta

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>

> I hope no one is offended or annoyed with this post because I am

> going to ask a question. I have done research on herxing and I

> haven't seen any evidence that herxing can cause a fever. Have any

> of you, in your personal experience, had bad fevers while herxing?

> Also have any of you had swollen glands and head pain (not headaches)

> while herxing? Just looking for your personal expereinces and I am

> not asking for a concrete answer to this question.

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Everybody keeps saying that there are no easy fixes...believe me *I

know that*. What I am concerned about is the dosage of

medication....is it the right dosage for the long haul (not for the

quick fix).

Lyra

>

> Hi Lyra

> I'm on the same dosage you are, and I have an excellent LLMD...

> Just hang tight and let the medicine do its job. One thing that I

> have learned is that I need to be patient. There are no easy fixes

> here. So, hang in there! I get the posts in digest form, so if you

> want me to read something sooner rather than later feel free to

> write to me off list.

> Take it easy!

> {{hugs}}

> Jane

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In a message dated 7/27/01 3:22:20 AM, writes:

<< Everybody keeps saying that there are no easy fixes...believe me *I

know that*. What I am concerned about is the dosage of

medication....is it the right dosage for the long haul (not for the

quick fix). >>

Hi Lyra

I thought I answered your question about dosage, but if I didn't I'm

sorry I wasn't clear. Yes, you are on the right dosage of Ceftin according

to my LLMD.

My LLMD is one of the great Lyme doctors out there.

I understand your upset and confusion as I've been there and I am there.

This disease effects us in so many ways. I believe you are taking things

that are meant to be supportive as negative. My intent was to be helpful

and supportive. I too am over sensitive and stressed right now.

You are not alone in this.

Wishing you the best,

Jane

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" I hope you have been given leads to a great LLMD from others on the list who

live in your area.

-Jules "

**** The problem here is I personally have given Lyra support/info and even

shared the name of my VERY private LLMD in which she made an appt., cancelled

and then finally came back and saw him. Lyra, you have been given the very

best of care and attention by me (many private e-mails) and my LLMD and yet

you still question what, why, who, when and that is what is frustrating to

me. I also cannot believe that one person has posted and have posts written

about them that take up ALOT of the 1,000 allotted e-mails one has!!!! In the

5 yrs. I have been doing this, this is the first time I have seen someone

just go on and on and on.......

I have not been cruel, not 'yelled' at you, but it would be a good idea for

you to join a support group in person for lyme. THIS would help tremendously

calm your fears and anxiety. I have told you to ask our LLMD for Xanax, to

help with your 'panic attacks' or 'anxiety'. Have you done that???

Please, Lyra, take responsibility for yourself and stop blaming others. I

have a 6 yr old with this horrible disease, I have 2- 13 yr old boys, 15 yr

old daughter and 18yr old dauhgter......they don't go on and on about it.

Your " young age " has nothing to do with why you should be allowed to ask,

ask, ask. I gave you many WONDERFUL lyme sites in which you can educate

yourself about lyme and understand what this is all about.

I agree here......enough is enough about this. Please.

sue in nj

sue massie

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If you don't like my messages...press delete....it is not that hard.

I should have the freedom to go on and on and on if I like...this

does not violate any of the rules of the group and is therpuetic for

me. I learn by asking over and over again...that is how my brain

works.

Lyra

> " I hope you have been given leads to a great LLMD from others on

the list who

> live in your area.

>

> -Jules "

>

> **** The problem here is I personally have given Lyra support/info

and even

> shared the name of my VERY private LLMD in which she made an appt.,

cancelled

> and then finally came back and saw him. Lyra, you have been given

the very

> best of care and attention by me (many private e-mails) and my LLMD

and yet

> you still question what, why, who, when and that is what is

frustrating to

> me. I also cannot believe that one person has posted and have posts

written

> about them that take up ALOT of the 1,000 allotted e-mails one

has!!!! In the

> 5 yrs. I have been doing this, this is the first time I have seen

someone

> just go on and on and on.......

> I have not been cruel, not 'yelled' at you, but it would be a good

idea for

> you to join a support group in person for lyme. THIS would help

tremendously

> calm your fears and anxiety. I have told you to ask our LLMD for

Xanax, to

> help with your 'panic attacks' or 'anxiety'. Have you done that???

> Please, Lyra, take responsibility for yourself and stop blaming

others. I

> have a 6 yr old with this horrible disease, I have 2- 13 yr old

boys, 15 yr

> old daughter and 18yr old dauhgter......they don't go on and on

about it.

> Your " young age " has nothing to do with why you should be allowed

to ask,

> ask, ask. I gave you many WONDERFUL lyme sites in which you can

educate

> yourself about lyme and understand what this is all about.

> I agree here......enough is enough about this. Please.

> sue in nj

> sue massie

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- Dear Lrya,

Although it is not " ON " the rules list, it is a comman courtesy to

use good manners during dialog. We all abide by that. To intimadate

the members of this support group is poor manners.

Be it may " Theraputic " for you, it is also " Symptomatic " as well, and

we surely have wittnessed that <VBG>. The best course of action is

begin " Anxiety Therapy " with a good Counselor el pronto.

To continuely froth at the mouth with human excretement does this

leave one with the ambition of becoming a soap suds enema patient?

A.I.D.S. = Acquired Intelligence Defiency Syndrome

in Hot, humid, mosquito County..... TX

Samm

-- In @y..., lms@v... wrote:

>

> If you don't like my messages...press delete....it is not that

hard.

> I should have the freedom to go on and on and on if I like...this

> does not violate any of the rules of the group and is therpuetic

for

> me. I learn by asking over and over again...that is how my brain

> works.

>

> Lyra

>

>

> > " I hope you have been given leads to a great LLMD from others on

> the list who

> > live in your area.

> >

> > -Jules "

> >

> > **** The problem here is I personally have given Lyra

support/info

> and even

> > shared the name of my VERY private LLMD in which she made an

appt.,

> cancelled

> > and then finally came back and saw him. Lyra, you have been given

> the very

> > best of care and attention by me (many private e-mails) and my

LLMD

> and yet

> > you still question what, why, who, when and that is what is

> frustrating to

> > me. I also cannot believe that one person has posted and have

posts

> written

> > about them that take up ALOT of the 1,000 allotted e-mails one

> has!!!! In the

> > 5 yrs. I have been doing this, this is the first time I have seen

> someone

> > just go on and on and on.......

> > I have not been cruel, not 'yelled' at you, but it would be a

good

> idea for

> > you to join a support group in person for lyme. THIS would help

> tremendously

> > calm your fears and anxiety. I have told you to ask our LLMD for

> Xanax, to

> > help with your 'panic attacks' or 'anxiety'. Have you done

that???

> > Please, Lyra, take responsibility for yourself and stop blaming

> others. I

> > have a 6 yr old with this horrible disease, I have 2- 13 yr old

> boys, 15 yr

> > old daughter and 18yr old dauhgter......they don't go on and on

> about it.

> > Your " young age " has nothing to do with why you should be allowed

> to ask,

> > ask, ask. I gave you many WONDERFUL lyme sites in which you can

> educate

> > yourself about lyme and understand what this is all about.

> > I agree here......enough is enough about this. Please.

> > sue in nj

> > sue massie

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