Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Deb call Dr M *-) Hope hubby gets some relief soon, that pain can be a pain take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Nurse Deb- Do I have an article for you....... Lyme Disease Have You Ticked? Ask Your Dentist! Lyme disease, which is initiated by the bite of an immature deer tick, is difficult to diagnose, but your dentist may be able to detect this mysterious disease, reports the Academy of General Dentistry, an organization of general dentists dedicated to continuing dental education. Patients with Lyme disease report pain in their teeth, chewing muscles and jaw joint, which drives them to the dentist. " Unfortunately, most patients are not diagnosed properly until their Lyme disease is at a later stage, and when it is more difficult to treat, " says Cordero, DDS, a spokesperson in New Jersey for the Academy of General Dentistry. " Diagnosing this disease is very tricky because it can hide itself behind many dental problems, including toothaches and jaw pain. " A study of 120 patients with Lyme disease revealed that about 75 percent of patients reported pain in the chewing muscles and 72 percent reported temporomandibular joint pain. Burning mouth was reported by 25 percent of these patients, and 70 percent reported a sore throat. About 47 percent of the patients visited up to 10 doctors before being properly diagnosed. " Your dentist may suspect Lyme disease if you have a mysterious toothache that can't be attributed to cavities, " says Dr. Cordero. " The disease may be really causing you to feel pain underneath the tooth. " About 70 percent of patients with Lyme disease reported dental pain in the absence of dental disease, and the dental pain tended to move from tooth to tooth. Of these patients, 36 percent had multiple dental treatments, including root canals and tooth extraction unnecessarily. " Early diagnosis is critical because in its late stages, Lyme disease can lead to neurological symptoms, arthritis, and can involve the heart and other organs " says Dr. Cordero. " Filling out a proper medical history will help the dentist detect this mysterious disease. " About 70 percent of Lyme disease patients are found in the Northeast, but it has also been reported in the North Central and Pacific Coast regions. Since 1980, nearly 100,000 people in the United States have had Lyme disease. Other symptoms associated with Lyme disease are headache, flu-like illness with achy joints, muscle pain, stiff neck, significant fatigue and facial pain. Many patients also have a characteristic bull's eye shaped rash with a clear center seen at the site of the bite. PRINTED FROM The Academy of General Dentistry January 12, 2002 sue in nj sue massie I think I have other references for dental pain and lyme.....have to check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Hi NurseDeb: Sorry your husband is having this pain!! I also get this from time to time, but not with such severity. It migrates all around in my teeth and sometimes the jaw also. At other times I get tightening in the jaw muscles as well. This seems to be one manifestation of the Lyme in the nerves as far as I know - but being a brain damaged philosopher and theosopher - what do i know?? At 08:55 PM 2/7/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Everybody, > > >For the past 10 days or so, he has had severe, and getting worse, dental >pain. He says sometimes it feels like an abcessed toothache feels (he's >had about 5 abcesses/root canals in 7 years) and sometimes it feels more >like jaw bone pain. At first, it would come and go, but has gotten >progressively worse. Takes 3 Motrin to take the edge off it, and tonight, >he finally accepted my offer of a real pain pill. > >Thanks so much! > >NurseDeb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Hi Nurse Deb, I can certainly identify with your husband. I had dental pain the entire time my lyme was active. In fact we used it as a measuring stick, on how well a certain abx was working. The pain was horrible. It was all nerve related. I would take a VIOXX, and then swirl warm water in my mouth for about five minutes..............and within 15 minutes it was gone. It always came back...............I couldn't really find anything specific to trigger it, except, being overly tired and sweets. The vioxx worked wonders..................Hope that helps. Connie Leave no stone unturned.......and ask questions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 Hi NurseDeb, I agree with . Call Dr. M pronto and tell him these things. He's always harping on us about how Lyme affects the teeth. In fact, my last lab tests he felt were way too low in numbers on 5 of the tests because he knows the state of my teeth and knows the numbers should be higher. He wants to have the lab re-run the tests because he doubts the validity of all the numbers now, based on the 5 suspect numbers. Five of the tests relate to dental infections somehow (don't understand it all, but it's real detailed testing). Lyme and dental disease often go hand in hand, as many others have become all too well aware. Those buggers can burrow in the gums, under the teeth, and be very hard for the dentist to get to. The article that Sue included spelled it out pretty well. My teeth are very sensitive, and my jaw throbs, too. I also tend to clench my teeth, also. My teeth were pretty good when I was younger, but have gotten SO much worse in the last 5 years. has a history of bad teeth (runs in his family), and Dr. M made him go to the dentist and have them all pulled 2 years ago. Said not to even bother with trying to do the expensive gum scraping, fillings, crowns, etc., that the dentist had recommended several years ago. was never too keen on having those things taken care of because he didn't have insurance as an independent consultant before we married in 1992. When we married, I had good insurance in my position. Well, he now has a beautiful set of dentures and has prevented further gum deterioration. Anyway, it's sure nothing to fool around with or put off. Do call Dr. M at least, and let him know what's going on. Hope hubby is feeling better soon! Love ya, Rose T.O.I.L. for Lyme! T=Teach tolerance; O=Overcome ignorance; I=Initiate insurance reform; L=Labor for Lyme literacy *Websites* http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/RoseWriter or http://www.angelfire.com/biz/romarkaraoke/james.html --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2002 Report Share Posted February 12, 2002 Hey you wild woman! Thanks so much for doing this. Unfortunately, its the ONE article I was able to come up with on my own. If you happen to run accross any other stuff on this particular topic, send it my direction. Did you get the Stealth Virus and ALS stuff I sent you? I'd be interested in your assessment of this doc and his theory. Glad you are back in the saddle and your old self - I know you a had a tough time of it lately, Thanks again, NurseDeb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 Nursedeb: email me privately. I have something to tell you about Dr. (aka stealth virus issue). Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 In a message dated 2/13/02 12:04:00 PM, alopeztcr@... writes: << Nursedeb: email me privately. I have something to tell you about Dr. (aka stealth virus issue). Donna >> Donna- Can you copy me in on this one? I, too, have interesting stuff...... sue in nj sue massie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 , find a lyme literate dentist before you have a root canal or get a second opinion. There are so many issues to deal with when a root canal is done, espec. with chronic infections being present. There are dentists who know about these things....also if you can locate a dentist who is younger, has laser dentistry and will work with your llmd....all the better. Best wishes...hope you won't need a root canal. I'm off to the dentist next week with the same concerns. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 Dear Sue and Donna, I have a dental appointment on Friday and I am terrified because I have a HUGE hole in a molar that has been there for quite some time, which means numbing the area and perhaps (pray not) root canal work. What do I need to know before I go in? Any info is appreciated. YOu can e-mail me privately. Sue - BTW. STILL WAITING FOR THE IV ROCHEPHIN. This county Dr. is driving me mad. Even my LLMD wrote him a letter saying get on with it already! Love, > > In a message dated 2/13/02 12:04:00 PM, alopeztcr@a... writes: > > << Nursedeb: email me privately. I have something to tell you about Dr. > > (aka stealth virus issue). > > Donna > >> > > Donna- > Can you copy me in on this one? I, too, have interesting stuff...... > sue in nj > sue massie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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