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Hi Vickey-Two things. First get a very good pair of sneakers with a high arch. If none can be found, have an orthotic made, see a podatrist or orthopedist. Next find the air cushion gel insoles. They massage and help distribute weight while on your feet. Buy foot supports by ACE. They are inexpensive and are just L shapes sleeves that support your ball, arch heel and ankle. Get a food bath with vibrating massage and take breaks whenever possible. Make sure you can sit if you have to on a stool behind the cashier station or have them buy you a shock asorbing mat you can stand on!!!!!! Ice might help also. Hugs, Deborah P.S. Remember- Wide Box toes in Sneakers with plenty of toe room, and built up ankle if possible. On 6/7/06, Vicki <

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I have very swollen ankles and sore feet, particularly my right one which I sprained severely two years ago. I work as a cashier and I am on my feet constantly. Any suggestions on how to control the swelling and pain? SHould I wrap my bad ankle?

I see my dr in a couple of weeks but thought someone here might have some suggestions. I know I lost some of the connective tissue in my arch area because my foot " collapsed " about a year ago. It felt like it went flat. and my old dr said that is probably what happened.

Thanks,

Vicki

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I have orthotics but they make my feet hurt worse after standing for a while. Sometimes I take my shoes off at work and that seems to help. Maybe the orthotics aren't right anymore. I've had them for over a year.

We can't sit at work because we are not allowed stools. I don't know if that's a store rule or a union rule. And I don't think I can get disability because they'll say I can do a sit down job. The problem is finding a sitdown job.

Thanks for the advise,

Vicki

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From: Deborah Bargad

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Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:55 PM

Subject: Re: very swollen ankles

Hi Vickey-Two things. First get a very good pair of sneakers with a high arch. If none can be found, have an orthotic made, see a podatrist or orthopedist. Next find the air cushion gel insoles. They massage and help distribute weight while on your feet. Buy foot supports by ACE. They are inexpensive and are just L shapes sleeves that support your ball, arch heel and ankle. Get a food bath with vibrating massage and take breaks whenever possible. Make sure you can sit if you have to on a stool behind the cashier station or have them buy you a shock asorbing mat you can stand on!!!!!! Ice might help also. Hugs, Deborah P.S. Remember- Wide Box toes in Sneakers with plenty of toe room, and built up ankle if possible.

On 6/7/06, Vicki < hoyt91@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have very swollen ankles and sore feet, particularly my right one which I sprained severely two years ago. I work as a cashier and I am on my feet constantly. Any suggestions on how to control the swelling and pain? SHould I wrap my bad ankle?

I see my dr in a couple of weeks but thought someone here might have some suggestions. I know I lost some of the connective tissue in my arch area because my foot "collapsed" about a year ago. It felt like it went flat. and my old dr said that is probably what happened.

Thanks,

Vicki

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Vicki,

I developed severe foot problems about ten years ago. I wear Birkenstocks now, all the time. They make shoes and boots in addition to sandals, and have a huge selection. They're a little expensive, but if you watch on-line end-of-season specials at The Birkenstock Store, you can get them for more than 50% off. They have three different arch configurations, and completely took care of all the pain I was having. I even wear an old pair of sandals as bedroom slippers, and never go barefoot. If I wear anything else for any length of time(more than an hour) I can really feel it when I put on the Birks.

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From: Vicki

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Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 4:59 PM

Subject: Re: very swollen ankles

I have orthotics but they make my feet hurt worse after standing for a while. Sometimes I take my shoes off at work and that seems to help. Maybe the orthotics aren't right anymore. I've had them for over a year.

We can't sit at work because we are not allowed stools. I don't know if that's a store rule or a union rule. And I don't think I can get disability because they'll say I can do a sit down job. The problem is finding a sitdown job.

Thanks for the advise,

Vicki

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From: Deborah Bargad

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Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:55 PM

Subject: Re: very swollen ankles

Hi Vickey-Two things. First get a very good pair of sneakers with a high arch. If none can be found, have an orthotic made, see a podatrist or orthopedist. Next find the air cushion gel insoles. They massage and help distribute weight while on your feet. Buy foot supports by ACE. They are inexpensive and are just L shapes sleeves that support your ball, arch heel and ankle. Get a food bath with vibrating massage and take breaks whenever possible. Make sure you can sit if you have to on a stool behind the cashier station or have them buy you a shock asorbing mat you can stand on!!!!!! Ice might help also. Hugs, Deborah P.S. Remember- Wide Box toes in Sneakers with plenty of toe room, and built up ankle if possible.

On 6/7/06, Vicki < hoyt91@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have very swollen ankles and sore feet, particularly my right one which I sprained severely two years ago. I work as a cashier and I am on my feet constantly. Any suggestions on how to control the swelling and pain? SHould I wrap my bad ankle?

I see my dr in a couple of weeks but thought someone here might have some suggestions. I know I lost some of the connective tissue in my arch area because my foot "collapsed" about a year ago. It felt like it went flat. and my old dr said that is probably what happened.

Thanks,

Vicki

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exactly! And many employers don't want to hire people with conditions such as ours because it increases the costs for medical. The last position I had was a temp to perm position and I was doing great but as soon as the office manager learned I had RA (my supervisor knew - she was ok with it) - I was left go that same day. That was in oct of '03 and that temp agency has never gotten me another position. I had no recourse because the company said that I did excellent but they were 'reorganizing' the dept and doing away with the position. (yeah right). (i had been diagnosed but had an appt with the rheumy for the first time a week later.) Helen Vicki <hoyt91@...> wrote: ...The problem is finding a sitdown job. Thanks for the advise, Vicki . __________________________________________________

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Oh the lovely world of work a day healthy people. If you need a stool you should get a doctors note, bring it to the manager and thats that. Get a pair of containers (sneakers) with a comfy box toe, high arch and high heel. That will help. I found the gel insoles work nicely as well as do spenco insoles without orthotics. I havent been able to work for many years. I just cant stand people taking others and their abilities for granted which they do in a work environment. I thought of working a sit down job like an answering service or something but my brain is so addled with meds, I cant even take my own messages efficiently anymore. Try to find a job you can sit down at. You deserve it. Hugs, Deborah

On 6/7/06, Vicki <hoyt91@...> wrote:

I have orthotics but they make my feet hurt worse after standing for a while. Sometimes I take my shoes off at work and that seems to help. Maybe the orthotics aren't right anymore. I've had them for over a year.

We can't sit at work because we are not allowed stools. I don't know if that's a store rule or a union rule. And I don't think I can get disability because they'll say I can do a sit down job. The problem is finding a sitdown job.

Thanks for the advise,

Vicki

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From: Deborah Bargad

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Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:55 PM

Subject: Re: very swollen ankles

Hi Vickey-Two things. First get a very good pair of sneakers with a high arch. If none can be found, have an orthotic made, see a podatrist or orthopedist. Next find the air cushion gel insoles. They massage and help distribute weight while on your feet. Buy foot supports by ACE. They are inexpensive and are just L shapes sleeves that support your ball, arch heel and ankle. Get a food bath with vibrating massage and take breaks whenever possible. Make sure you can sit if you have to on a stool behind the cashier station or have them buy you a shock asorbing mat you can stand on!!!!!! Ice might help also. Hugs, Deborah P.S. Remember- Wide Box toes in Sneakers with plenty of toe room, and built up ankle if possible.

On 6/7/06, Vicki < hoyt91@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have very swollen ankles and sore feet, particularly my right one which I sprained severely two years ago. I work as a cashier and I am on my feet constantly. Any suggestions on how to control the swelling and pain? SHould I wrap my bad ankle?

I see my dr in a couple of weeks but thought someone here might have some suggestions. I know I lost some of the connective tissue in my arch area because my foot " collapsed " about a year ago. It felt like it went flat. and my old dr said that is probably what happened.

Thanks,

Vicki

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Hello , So ture you do need to do what hepls you as you'll find out in the employmemt world it's all cruel and they'er watching out for they'er best interrest . I founld out when I was trying to keep working with this nasty diease that even my coworkers , the ones that I thought was my best friend was giveing me the roughtest time , and they really haven't a clue how hard this is . john Deborah Bargad <dbargad@...> wrote: Oh the lovely world of work a day healthy people. If you need a stool you should get a doctors note, bring it to the manager and thats that. Get a pair of containers (sneakers) with a comfy box toe, high arch and high heel. That will help. I found the gel insoles work nicely as well as do spenco insoles without orthotics. I havent been able to work for many years. I just cant stand people taking others and their abilities for granted which they do in a work environment. I thought of working a sit down job like an answering service or something but my brain is so addled with meds, I cant even take my own messages efficiently anymore. Try to find a job you can sit down at. You

deserve it. Hugs, Deborah On 6/7/06, Vicki <hoyt91@...> wrote: I have orthotics but they make my feet hurt worse after standing for a while. Sometimes I take my shoes off at work and that seems to help. Maybe the orthotics aren't right anymore. I've had them for over a year. We can't sit at work because we are not allowed stools. I don't know if that's a store rule or a union rule. And I don't think I can get disability because they'll say I can do a sit down job. The problem is finding a

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you might want to check our RYKA shoes (I get my from QVC) = they make their shoes/sneakers from a womens' last (mold) not just a man's = the company is created/run by women = they know that a woman's foot needs a wider toe box and a narrower heel than a man's foot = very comfortable! gentle hugs! MarciaDeborah Bargad <dbargad@...> wrote: Hi Vickey-Two things. First get a very good pair of sneakers with a high arch. If none can be found, have an orthotic made, see a podatrist or orthopedist. Next find the air cushion gel insoles. They massage and

help distribute weight while on your feet. Buy foot supports by ACE. They are inexpensive and are just L shapes sleeves that support your ball, arch heel and ankle. Get a food bath with vibrating massage and take breaks whenever possible. Make sure you can sit if you have to on a stool behind the cashier station or have them buy you a shock asorbing mat you can stand on!!!!!! Ice might help also. Hugs, Deborah P.S. Remember- Wide Box toes in Sneakers with plenty of toe room, and built up ankle if possible. On 6/7/06, Vicki < hoyt91@...> wrote: Hi, I have very swollen ankles and sore feet, particularly my right one which I sprained severely two years ago. I work as a cashier and I am on my feet constantly. Any suggestions on how to control the swelling and pain? SHould I wrap my bad ankle? I see my dr in a couple of weeks but thought someone here might have some suggestions. I know I lost some of the connective tissue in my arch area because my foot "collapsed" about a year ago. It felt like it went flat. and my old dr said that is probably what happened. Thanks, Vicki --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- __________________________________________________

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hey, Vicki! what kind of work do you do? gentle hugs! MarciaVicki <hoyt91@...> wrote: I have orthotics but they make my feet hurt worse after standing for a while. Sometimes I take my shoes off at work and that seems to help. Maybe the orthotics aren't right anymore. I've had them for over a year. We can't sit at work because we are not allowed stools. I don't know if that's a store rule or a

union rule. And I don't think I can get disability because they'll say I can do a sit down job. The problem is finding a sitdown job. Thanks for the advise, Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: Deborah Bargad Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:55 PM Subject: Re: very swollen ankles Hi Vickey-Two

things. First get a very good pair of sneakers with a high arch. If none can be found, have an orthotic made, see a podatrist or orthopedist. Next find the air cushion gel insoles. They massage and help distribute weight while on your feet. Buy foot supports by ACE. They are inexpensive and are just L shapes sleeves that support your ball, arch heel and ankle. Get a food bath with vibrating massage and take breaks whenever possible. Make sure you can sit if you have to on a stool behind the cashier station or have them buy you a shock asorbing mat you can stand on!!!!!! Ice might help also. Hugs, Deborah P.S. Remember- Wide Box toes in Sneakers with plenty of toe room, and built up ankle if possible. On 6/7/06, Vicki <

hoyt91@...> wrote: Hi, I have very swollen ankles and sore feet, particularly my right one which I sprained severely two years ago. I work as a cashier and I am on my feet constantly. Any suggestions on how to control the swelling and pain? SHould I wrap my bad ankle? I see my dr in a couple of weeks but thought someone here might have some suggestions. I know I lost some of the connective tissue in my arch area because my foot "collapsed" about a year ago. It felt like it went flat. and my old dr said

that is probably what happened. Thanks, Vicki --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- __________________________________________________

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I work as a cashier at a grocery store.

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hey, Vicki! what kind of work do you do? gentle hugs! Marcia

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oh --- I guess I have never seen a grocery store clerk sitting down -- I work at a high school, civil service. the State of New York = I cannot be discriminated against because of my RA & fibro. = also, it is a union/hourly job, so I have a contract to fall back onto = anyways, I answer phones and do front desk/reception, and I get to sit down. I started at 4 hours a day, 10 months. then moved up to 7 hrs. a day, then up to 12 months. but if things get rough, I can always go back down.....gentle hugs! Marcia Vicki <hoyt91@...> wrote: I work as a cashier at a grocery store. Vicki hey, Vicki! what kind of work do you do? gentle hugs! Marcia --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- __________________________________________________

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Hi Elyse,

Just thought I'd check to see if you are drinking enough water. I tend to have this problem during warmer weather.. while on iodine, and I think it has to do with detoxing. If I make sure that I drink a lot of water, my toes (where I feel it) no longer have that "thick" feeling in the mornings.

Best,

Glo

From: mec <macedgeca@...>Subject: very swollen anklesiodine Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 10:53 AM

I think I figured out my ankles really swell when I take iodine. When I did the iodine loading test I took 50mg and my ankles swelled (one more than the other). Today both my feet are swollen and both my ankles are very swollen. I just realized that I've been having iodized salt the last several days, and I increased it because of the heat.

Does anyone else get this from taking iodine? What can I do now to reduce the swelling?

Elyse

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Hi Glo,I drink a ton of water.  The timing of this fits with my taking the iodized salt.  I wonder how iodine does this.  I've had this two other times and both those other times it was iodine again.

You think the swelling has to do with detoxing? On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Glory <glonear@...> wrote:

 

Hi Elyse,

 

Just thought I'd check to see if you are drinking enough water.  I tend to have this problem during warmer weather.. while on iodine, and I think it has to do with detoxing.  If I make sure that I drink a lot of water, my toes (where I feel it) no longer have that " thick " feeling in the mornings.  

 

Best,

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Oh no, I haven't touch that stuff for years and years.  I have himalayan salt but the first brand I got was not iodized and the second one I got is iodized.  Just wondering if it's the iodine that's doing it rather than the salt.

 On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Glory <glonear@...> wrote:

 

Iodized salt ..as in regular table salt?  Are you able to purchase some sea salt? 

 

If you are using regular table salt .. I would say that yes .. it probably does have to do with that.  In my opinion (and many others) it's just not good for you. 

 

Just my thoughts,

Glo

 

    

 

Hi Elyse,

 

Just thought I'd check to see if you are drinking enough water.  I tend to have this problem during warmer weather.. while on iodine, and I think it has to do with detoxing.  If I make sure that I drink a lot of water, my toes (where I feel it) no longer have that " thick " feeling in the mornings.  

 

Best,

Glo    

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i have had an issue with swollen ankles and legs since i was 16. the plain water does flush you out. ify ou drink soda or anything like that if you have a tendancy to swell, you will swell. salt will cause swelling as it causes you to retain fluid. or certain health issues will cause water retention. diane, near philly, pa On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Glory wrote:Hi Elyse, Just thought I'd check to see if you are drinking enough water. I tend to have this problem during warmer weather.. while on iodine, and I think it has to do with detoxing. If I make sure that I drink a lot of water, my toes (where I feel it) no longer have that "thick" feeling in the mornings. Best,Glo From: mec <macedgecagmail>Subject: very swollen anklesiodine Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 10:53 AM I think I figured out my ankles really swell when I take iodine. When I did the iodine loading test I took 50mg and my ankles swelled (one more than the other). Today both my feet are swollen and both my ankles are very swollen. I just realized that I've been having iodized salt the last several days, and I increased it because of the heat. Does anyone else get this from taking iodine? What can I do now to reduce the swelling?Elyse

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Do you know what can help reduce it the swelling?On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:40 PM, diane gaul <ditique@...> wrote:

 

i have had an issue with swollen ankles and legs since i was 16. the plain water does flush you out. ify ou drink soda or anything like that if you have a tendancy to swell, you will swell. salt will cause swelling as it causes you to retain fluid. or certain health issues will cause water retention.

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or it might have to do with needing thyroid meds, b/c swollen ankles is

a hypo symptom. do you take thyroid meds?

gracia

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> Hi Glo,

> I drink a ton of water. The timing of this fits with my taking the

> iodized salt. I wonder how iodine does this. I've had this two other

> times and both those other times it was iodine again.

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> You think the swelling has to do with detoxing?

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> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Glory <glonear@...

> <mailto:glonear@...>> wrote:

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> Hi Elyse,

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> Just thought I'd check to see if you are drinking enough water. I

> tend to have this problem during warmer weather.. while on iodine,

> and I think it has to do with detoxing. If I make sure that I

> drink a lot of water, my toes (where I feel it) no longer have

> that " thick " feeling in the mornings.

>

> Best,

> Glo* *

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Gracia,I'm taking T3 only because of RT3, could I need some T4 as well?ElyseOn Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

 

or it might have to do with needing thyroid meds, b/c swollen ankles is

a hypo symptom. do you take thyroid meds?

gracia

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maybe so. I think the rT3 is a liver issue, as Steph says.

Gracia

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> Gracia,

> I'm taking T3 only because of RT3, could I need some T4 as well?

> Elyse

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> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Gracia <circe@...

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> or it might have to do with needing thyroid meds, b/c swollen

> ankles is

> a hypo symptom. do you take thyroid meds?

> gracia

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Elyse, any T4 you take would be converted to RT3 rather than FT3, so that's why

you avoid T4 meds when trying to get rid of RT3.

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> > a hypo symptom. do you take thyroid meds?

> > gracia

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Thanks a,I had a blood test recently and it showed I had low T4.  I don't know if that matters, is it ok for it to be low?ElyseOn Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:03 PM, ejojunk <ejojunk@...> wrote:

 

Elyse, any T4 you take would be converted to RT3 rather than FT3, so that's why you avoid T4 meds when trying to get rid of RT3.

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Yes, take your macro minerals which are calcium, magnesium and potassium. Also the trace minerals are important too.Hopefully this will help the swelling to g down.

Jag

Re: "real salt lowers BP. " (Diane's message):

Not always. My blood pressure day to day is 110/70, much to the astonishment of any doctors (I am over weight so they expect it to be high)..

When I salt load with the iodine, it goes up (the highest I've seen it is 140/80). If I quit the iodine, I quit doing the salt loading and it drops back down.

I wish I had money for Dr. B's salt book. I would like to read more but for now, what I know for sure is that when I salt load, it goes up. I am using Celtic Sea Salt, it is not processed.

I probably wouldn't have noticed because since it is always spot on textbook, it's not even been on my radar to check it but....I've had an injury and every time I go to the doctor's office they take it. On days I've salted it's definitely up and on days I've not, it's definitely normal (for me). I'm puzzled by that because I had read that salt really isn't a factor....but? Tressler Healthy Transitions Life Coaching 541-791-1464 Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch. com).

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Diane,

Leg cramps can be caused by lacking any one or combination of:

Calcium

Magnesium

Potassium

Vitamin D

All of those must be in balance. If I get low in any one, I get leg cramps that are horrific.

To alleviate cramps, try:

Tonic water (quinine in it helps)

Epson salts baths (magnesium in it helps)

1/2 bananna (potassium)

I take supplements as well. I have to take calcium because I am gluten and casein intolerant and have had problems getting enough (malnourished from the CD). In addition, I learned that if you don't have enough vitamin D, your body cannot absorb calcium and when that was added things got better for me. Tressler Healthy Transitions Life Coaching 541-791-1464 Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch.com).

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Ms. Tressler. What do you figure is a maximal dosage for using Epsom salts as a source to replenish blood mg?

Cups/gal

Length of soak

freq. etc.

Thanks. Jim

From: Tressler <kartrss@...>Subject: Re: very swollen anklesiodine Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 11:56 PM

Diane,

Leg cramps can be caused by lacking any one or combination of:

Calcium

Magnesium

Potassium

Vitamin D

All of those must be in balance. If I get low in any one, I get leg cramps that are horrific.

To alleviate cramps, try:

Tonic water (quinine in it helps)

Epson salts baths (magnesium in it helps)

1/2 bananna (potassium)

I take supplements as well. I have to take calcium because I am gluten and casein intolerant and have had problems getting enough (malnourished from the CD). In addition, I learned that if you don't have enough vitamin D, your body cannot absorb calcium and when that was added things got better for me. Tressler Healthy Transitions Life Coaching 541-791-1464 Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch. com).

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>Thanks DaddyBob,

I will look for the L-ascorbic acid. When you say have as much Vit C as

salt, how do you know how much salt that is? 1/4 tsp salt would be how many

mg?

Elyse<

I'm winging this on memory so hope I'm right...We did a lot of the Salt-C

protocol for our daughter's Lyme before we discovered that iodine was better

for Lyme. 1/4 teaspoon of most dry white powders, including salt and L-AA,

is pretty close to a gram or 100 milligrams. DaddyBob

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hi karen, i just went and bought viactiv,which is a chew vitamin type thing and the one i got has vitamin d 500 iu -- calcium 500 mg and vitamin k 40 mg. i got magnesium, although i was taking that anyway, but this year you aren't the only one getting weirdo weather. our summer has been very cold compared to normally. it rained every day for over a month, and when we get a rain storm it is cloudy for days. not an hour and then gone, i think we hit 90 twice this summer. the other day it was 77. that is chilly. so i figured i would get the vit. d. i will tell you i get overwhelmed with all the talk of detox and salt and this and that. in fact i don't know if any of the tests i had done included any of the stuff they talk about on list. i am still at the starting gate. geez... what a lot to learn. working with kids is good. takes your time but kids are neat to be with. i am a teaching assist. during the school year. i love being with the kids. enjoy your summer. i hear oregon is gorgeous. do you live near the water? the coast? On Jul 23, 2009, at 2:18 AM, Tressler wrote:Hi Diane, I'm sorry for the delay. It's summer and I work at a pool....with a couple hundred teens. You can extrapolate from that what my month has been like. LOL.... You can get potassium without a script at your local health food store.. You really cannot rely on the sun for vitamin D unless you live in the south. I live in Oregon and even this summer am taking them. We've had a weird year and as many cool/cold days as hot ones. On overcast days you can't get enough. On a nice sunny day, you need 15 minutes minimum. If you live where there is sun, try 20 minutes a day if you can get it without burning. See if you don't notice a difference after a few days. I can tell a big difference when I get it from sun over when I take it as a vitamin. My skin processes it much more effectively. Hope this helps. Tressler Healthy Transitions Life Coaching 541-791-1464 Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch.com).

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