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In a message dated 6/9/06 4:17:29 PM, kyrik@... writes:

> But when I went to refill the hydrocodone (way early, I'd gone thru 4

> months worth in 2 months,) his nurse said that since I was " self

> medicating, " the doc would prescribe one more month at one dose a day

> and then he would NEVER give me narcotics again. Plus they were sending

> a letter to that effect.>>>>>>

>

I cannot tell you how many times I have heard a similar story.

My heart goes out to you!

NEVER take more than the prescribed pain killers, or you will be cut off!

HOARD them for your flares.....

Remember, doctors deal with addicts every day trying to get them to write a

presciption for Vicodin or Percocet. If they get you addicted, they can face a

lawsuit or losing their license.

I turn down pain drugs as much as I can.

That way, as you pointed out, since we all have a long way to go, we have

some head room.

The saddest story is about a minister on the other list that said his drugs

were stolen. He called his doctor, who refused to replace them (at first).

Then, apparently he was robbed AGAIN.....

Like you, he had to tearfully convince him, but I think his credibility was

gone......

On a trip I lost a bottle of Vicodin. I didn't even consider having it

replaced.

It is sad it is this way, that people who really need these drugs can't get

them because they are abused!

However, I have found the less I use narcotics, the better they work

(anyway).

I am sorry for your miserable day!

Hugs,

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I am so sorry for what you went through. I am glad that you were

able

to talk with him about it and work it out. However, I get a little

frustrated that so many of us are put in the position of graveling

to

get the relief we need because of these fears that drs have that

everyone is addict waiting to POP out. I take pain meds everyday,

trust me I would much rather NOT have RA than take the meds, but I

do,

so I will! It is irratating to me that we have to be so careful how

we say things so that we are not labeled. I think that we have to

be

a little proactive about insisting that our drs do their jobs so

that

we can do ours. If that means they have to help me help myself with

pain management than so be it. I have a life to live and frankly it

makes me angry that is would be even considered that I should have

to

monitor my pain meds in such a way as this. All that fear and

frustration that you experienced only serves to make your symptoms

worse. Sorry for the rant, but I am not apologizing for insisting

that my drs take care of me, pain and all and I am so glad that you

went back and worked it out with your DR. Cassy

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I just had the most horrible experience with my rh. It turned out okay

but I was so scared I couldn't even write about it even though I wanted

all your advice.

My rh had prescribed 1 dose of 7.5/500 hydrocodone per day, but I got a

horrible ulcer that that was misdiagnosed and untreated for about a

month. I literally couldn't take a mouthful of food or even water

without pain meds on board. (I lost 15 pounds in a month.) So during

that time I was taking three doses a day. Then when the ulcer got better

I went down to 2 doses.

I told him (and his nurse) all about it 2 weeks ago and they just

nodded. So I assumed he was giving me the freedom to manage my pain,

just like with prednisone.

But when I went to refill the hydrocodone (way early, I'd gone thru 4

months worth in 2 months,) his nurse said that since I was " self

medicating, " the doc would prescribe one more month at one dose a day

and then he would NEVER give me narcotics again. Plus they were sending

a letter to that effect.

I was so freaked out. I mean, I have another 40 years or so to deal with

this disease and knowing that the letter would follow me forever and

that I'd probably be denied pain meds because it would look like a was

an addict and a drug seeker scared me to death. I thought I'd have to

find a new rh and was terrified of that, too, because this one has been

so kind and nice and helped me so much.

Oh, and the nurse said to go to a pain management clinic, but I'm

already going to PT for a herniated disc and my cervical spine, but the

latter is getting worse.

So I figured I had to talk to him and I made an appt with him, only I

couldn't get in till July 27th. But luckily there was a cancellation

today. I was so afraid to go in and talk to him about it. He's a

specialist, how on earth could I " confront " someoone with so much power,

especially power over my quality of life?

But I knew we had to talk because I couldn't understand why he'd been

okay with it before and then just cut me off. I mean, if he would have

told me 2 weeks ago to stop doing it, that he didn't want me

" self-medicating " , I would totally have done what he said.

I cried for at least half the appt and told him what I was feeling and

thinking and why and how I'd been taking the hydrocodone, and he was so

nice. Early in the appt he said, " I don't want this to be a battle,

either, we'll work through it. " He explained why he'd done and felt what

he did, and it made sense.

In the end he believed me and upped my dose of hydrocodone to what I was

hoping for and ordered an MRI of my cervical spine, and we'll also be

going up on the lyrica, which is helping my finger pain a little and may

eventually help the cervical spine, too. Plus I'm gonna see if he can

refer me to PTs who know about RA.

So, I still have my trusted, kind rh and I still have pain meds. Of

course I've learned my " lesson, " I will now be SO careful.

I know so many of you have it so much worse, you can't get pain meds at

all, and I'm so sorry. So thanks for listening to my story - if you've

made it this far :) - even though I know a lot of you are hurting and

have much worse stuff going on. I just needed to vent and let it out.

This group is a lifesaver :)

Take care,

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Its such a hard decision for docs to make I guess. For every person who is

legitamately taking pain meds responsibly, there problaby is someone who

isn't and how do they know?

But it is scary when you are on our side and needs those meds and take them

responsibly. My Rheumy is not too keen on giving narcotics but I have 2

doctors who will write me Rxs if needed.

>

> I just had the most horrible experience with my rh. It turned out okay

> but I was so scared I couldn't even write about it even though I wanted

> all your advice.

>

> My rh had prescribed 1 dose of 7.5/500 hydrocodone per day, but I got a

> horrible ulcer that that was misdiagnosed and untreated for about a

> month. I literally couldn't take a mouthful of food or even water

> without pain meds on board. (I lost 15 pounds in a month.) So during

> that time I was taking three doses a day. Then when the ulcer got better

> I went down to 2 doses.

>

> I told him (and his nurse) all about it 2 weeks ago and they just

> nodded. So I assumed he was giving me the freedom to manage my pain,

> just like with prednisone.

>

> But when I went to refill the hydrocodone (way early, I'd gone thru 4

> months worth in 2 months,) his nurse said that since I was " self

> medicating, " the doc would prescribe one more month at one dose a day

> and then he would NEVER give me narcotics again. Plus they were sending

> a letter to that effect.

>

> I was so freaked out. I mean, I have another 40 years or so to deal with

> this disease and knowing that the letter would follow me forever and

> that I'd probably be denied pain meds because it would look like a was

> an addict and a drug seeker scared me to death. I thought I'd have to

> find a new rh and was terrified of that, too, because this one has been

> so kind and nice and helped me so much.

>

> Oh, and the nurse said to go to a pain management clinic, but I'm

> already going to PT for a herniated disc and my cervical spine, but the

> latter is getting worse.

>

> So I figured I had to talk to him and I made an appt with him, only I

> couldn't get in till July 27th. But luckily there was a cancellation

> today. I was so afraid to go in and talk to him about it. He's a

> specialist, how on earth could I " confront " someoone with so much power,

> especially power over my quality of life?

>

> But I knew we had to talk because I couldn't understand why he'd been

> okay with it before and then just cut me off. I mean, if he would have

> told me 2 weeks ago to stop doing it, that he didn't want me

> " self-medicating " , I would totally have done what he said.

>

> I cried for at least half the appt and told him what I was feeling and

> thinking and why and how I'd been taking the hydrocodone, and he was so

> nice. Early in the appt he said, " I don't want this to be a battle,

> either, we'll work through it. " He explained why he'd done and felt what

> he did, and it made sense.

>

> In the end he believed me and upped my dose of hydrocodone to what I

was

> hoping for and ordered an MRI of my cervical spine, and we'll also be

> going up on the lyrica, which is helping my finger pain a little and may

> eventually help the cervical spine, too. Plus I'm gonna see if he can

> refer me to PTs who know about RA.

>

> So, I still have my trusted, kind rh and I still have pain meds. Of

> course I've learned my " lesson, " I will now be SO careful.

>

> I know so many of you have it so much worse, you can't get pain meds at

> all, and I'm so sorry. So thanks for listening to my story - if you've

> made it this far :) - even though I know a lot of you are hurting and

> have much worse stuff going on. I just needed to vent and let it out.

> This group is a lifesaver :)

>

> Take care,

>

>

>

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this is sad but ture and a fact of why some of us have other drs just for this reason ! a thought to concider . john <kyrik@...> wrote: I just had the most horrible experience with my rh. It turned out okay but I was so scared I couldn't even write about it even though I wanted all your advice. My rh had prescribed 1 dose of 7.5/500 hydrocodone per day, but I got a horrible ulcer that that was misdiagnosed and untreated for about a month. I literally couldn't take a mouthful of food or even water without pain meds on board. (I lost 15 pounds in a month.) So during that time I was taking three doses a day. Then when the ulcer got better I went down to 2 doses. I told him (and his nurse) all about it 2 weeks ago and they just nodded. So I assumed he was giving me the freedom to manage my pain, just like with prednisone. But when I went to refill the hydrocodone (way early, I'd gone thru 4 months worth in

2 months,) his nurse said that since I was "self medicating," the doc would prescribe one more month at one dose a day and then he would NEVER give me narcotics again. Plus they were sending a letter to that effect. I was so freaked out. I mean, I have another 40 years or so to deal with this disease and knowing that the letter would follow me forever and that I'd probably be denied pain meds because it would look like a was an addict and a drug seeker scared me to death. I thought I'd have to find a new rh and was terrified of that, too, because this one has been so kind and nice and helped me so much. Oh, and the nurse said to go to a pain management clinic, but I'm already going to PT for a herniated disc and my cervical spine, but the latter is getting worse. So I figured I had to talk to him and I made an appt with him, only I couldn't get in till July 27th. But luckily there was a

cancellation today. I was so afraid to go in and talk to him about it. He's a specialist, how on earth could I "confront" someoone with so much power, especially power over my quality of life? But I knew we had to talk because I couldn't understand why he'd been okay with it before and then just cut me off. I mean, if he would have told me 2 weeks ago to stop doing it, that he didn't want me "self-medicating", I would totally have done what he said. I cried for at least half the appt and told him what I was feeling and thinking and why and how I'd been taking the hydrocodone, and he was so nice. Early in the appt he said, "I don't want this to be a battle, either, we'll work through it." He explained why he'd done and felt what he did, and it made sense. In the end he believed me and upped my dose of hydrocodone to what I was hoping for and ordered an MRI of my cervical spine, and we'll

also be going up on the lyrica, which is helping my finger pain a little and may eventually help the cervical spine, too. Plus I'm gonna see if he can refer me to PTs who know about RA. So, I still have my trusted, kind rh and I still have pain meds. Of course I've learned my "lesson," I will now be SO careful. I know so many of you have it so much worse, you can't get pain meds at all, and I'm so sorry. So thanks for listening to my story - if you've made it this far :) - even though I know a lot of you are hurting and have much worse stuff going on. I just needed to vent and let it out. This group is a lifesaver :) Take care, __________________________________________________

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Thats good news , have a great day

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I just had the most horrible experience with my rh. It turned out okay but I was so scared I couldn't even write about it even though I wantedall your advice.My rh had prescribed 1 dose of 7.5/500 hydrocodone per day, but I got a horrible ulcer that that was misdiagnosed and untreated for about a month. I literally couldn't take a mouthful of food or even water without pain meds on board. (I lost 15 pounds in a month.) So during that time I was taking three doses a day. Then when the ulcer got better I went down to 2 doses.I told him (and his nurse) all about it 2 weeks ago and they just nodded. So I assumed he was giving me the freedom to manage my pain, just like with prednisone.But when I went to refill the hydrocodone (way early, I'd gone thru 4 months worth in 2 months,) his nurse said that since I was "self medicating," the doc would prescribe one more month at one dose a day and then he would NEVER give me narcotics again. Plus they were sending a letter to that effect.I was so freaked out. I mean, I have another 40 years or so to deal with this disease and knowing that the letter would follow me forever and that I'd probably be denied pain meds because it would look like a was an addict and a drug seeker scared me to death. I thought I'd have to find a new rh and was terrified of that, too, because this one has been so kind and nice and helped me so much.Oh, and the nurse said to go to a pain management clinic, but I'm already going to PT for a herniated disc and my cervical spine, but the latter is getting worse.So I figured I had to talk to him and I made an appt with him, only I couldn't get in till July 27th. But luckily there was a cancellation today. I was so afraid to go in and talk to him about it. He's a specialist, how on earth could I "confront" someoone with so much power, especially power over my quality of life?But I knew we had to talk because I couldn't understand why he'd been okay with it before and then just cut me off. I mean, if he would have told me 2 weeks ago to stop doing it, that he didn't want me "self-medicating", I would totally have done what he said.I cried for at least half the appt and told him what I was feeling and thinking and why and how I'd been taking the hydrocodone, and he was so nice. Early in the appt he said, "I don't want this to be a battle, either, we'll work through it." He explained why he'd done and felt what he did, and it made sense.In the end he believed me and upped my dose of hydrocodone to what I was hoping for and ordered an MRI of my cervical spine, and we'll also be going up on the lyrica, which is helping my finger pain a little and may eventually help the cervical spine, too. Plus I'm gonna see if he can refer me to PTs who know about RA.So, I still have my trusted, kind rh and I still have pain meds. Of course I've learned my "lesson," I will now be SO careful.I know so many of you have it so much worse, you can't get pain meds atall, and I'm so sorry. So thanks for listening to my story - if you've made it this far :) - even though I know a lot of you are hurting and have much worse stuff going on. I just needed to vent and let it out. This group is a lifesaver :)Take care,

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- While you may think it was all your fault, it isnt. Doctors throw pain meds at you because its fast and convenient but every script they write is monitored and If they have too free a hand on something like codone, then they all of a sudden remember that they can get in trouble for this. There is a frightening trend in the medical community about Narcotics like Codone or Benzodiazepines. Nobody wants you on them. They create more problems (addicts) then they cure. Of course suddenly you get a hole in your gut because of the free handed meds the doctor gave you. Its not their body after all. Its not their PAIN. Just so you can put things like this in perspective. While pain and medication do things to your mind, the pharmacists, nurses and doctors add to the stress by prescribing medication and then formulary changes make them impossible to get. My PCP or primary fills almost all my prescriptions because my RD is too busy or too lazy. She was actually mad about that. I cant say as I blame her. Alot of her patients are falling through holes in the medicare part D system and unable to get pain meds or psych meds across the board. They perpetuate this system of dependency and then leave you high and dry or scrambling and begging. Its outrageous. It affects your dignity and self esteem. I have found a way to beat them at their own game. I am prescribed 50mg of trazadone but need only 25mgs so they give me 15 pills of 50mg to last me a month and I have to bite them in half. The pills are half the size they used to be so biting them in half is quite a challenge. Finding the other half the next night is even more challenging. I take Darvocet. That is darvon and tylenol. It comes in generic of course. 650mg RED caplets. I told the doctor that one pill last me 4 or 5 days because I only take a 1/4 of the pill or a nibble each night!!!!!!. You should see the look on my docs face. Puzzled for sure. So they give me 30 pills to last me 90 days. You get where I am going with this. The thing is, I purposely leave myself on the edge of pain and leave myself under medicated. I take an extra Ibuprofen instead of more darvocet. I had to go to the ER recently due to trauma around my neck and after a Cspine series, the ER doctor said my neck was riddled with arthritis and bone spurs. A mess he called it. My RD hasnt taken an xray of my neck ever. Why wasnt I being given PT? If I was in pain and have Darvocet and Soma why not take as much as I need? I told him something that shocked him I think. I said, " I wont self medicate and need a doctors permission to take more than the prescribed amount! " He said, My god, just take as much as you need. I have had on a soft collar and wrote me prescriptions for extra if I wanted it. I said I would see my PCP if I needed more. If something is wrong, then do the test, find the problem and fix it. Dont load me full of medication so you dont have to do a costly test on me. Pump me full of drugs, shut me up and its a cheap fix, that is, until you bleed out with an ulcer because of those drugs. Do get to a pain clinic but do not think you are an addict. Dont let anyone tell you no. The doctors started you DOWN this ROAD, and they just let you wander around the system until something really goes wrong. When they have to assume responsibility for managing YOUR PAIN, you finally come to understand that they back off and suddenly get amnesia. Did YOU cause this addiction to Codone? No. The Doctor did because he was too busy or too inept to send you for better, appropriate treatment. They tell a doctor in med school, DO NO HARM and look where you are now. You will be on methodone before you know it. Thats what pain management really means. OOPS we made an ADDICT out of this one, better send her for methodone so we can cover the mistake we made in the first place. Fight back and know doctors can do harm. Alot of it. Hugs, Deborah

On 6/9/06, <kyrik@...> wrote:

I just had the most horrible experience with my rh. It turned out okay but I was so scared I couldn't even write about it even though I wantedall your advice.My rh had prescribed 1 dose of 7.5/500 hydrocodone per day, but I got a horrible ulcer that that was misdiagnosed and untreated for about a month. I literally couldn't take a mouthful of food or even water without pain meds on board. (I lost 15 pounds in a month.) So during that time I was taking three doses a day. Then when the ulcer got better I went down to 2 doses.I told him (and his nurse) all about it 2 weeks ago and they just nodded. So I assumed he was giving me the freedom to manage my pain, just like with prednisone.But when I went to refill the hydrocodone (way early, I'd gone thru 4 months worth in 2 months,) his nurse said that since I was " self medicating, " the doc would prescribe one more month at one dose a day and then he would NEVER give me narcotics again. Plus they were sending a letter to that effect.I was so freaked out. I mean, I have another 40 years or so to deal with this disease and knowing that the letter would follow me forever and that I'd probably be denied pain meds because it would look like a was an addict and a drug seeker scared me to death. I thought I'd have to find a new rh and was terrified of that, too, because this one has been so kind and nice and helped me so much.Oh, and the nurse said to go to a pain management clinic, but I'm already going to PT for a herniated disc and my cervical spine, but the latter is getting worse.So I figured I had to talk to him and I made an appt with him, only I couldn't get in till July 27th. But luckily there was a cancellation today. I was so afraid to go in and talk to him about it. He's a specialist, how on earth could I " confront " someoone with so much power, especially power over my quality of life?But I knew we had to talk because I couldn't understand why he'd been okay with it before and then just cut me off. I mean, if he would have told me 2 weeks ago to stop doing it, that he didn't want me " self-medicating " , I would totally have done what he said.I cried for at least half the appt and told him what I was feeling and thinking and why and how I'd been taking the hydrocodone, and he was so nice. Early in the appt he said, " I don't want this to be a battle, either, we'll work through it. " He explained why he'd done and felt what he did, and it made sense.In the end he believed me and upped my dose of hydrocodone to what I was hoping for and ordered an MRI of my cervical spine, and we'll also be going up on the lyrica, which is helping my finger pain a little and may eventually help the cervical spine, too. Plus I'm gonna see if he can refer me to PTs who know about RA.So, I still have my trusted, kind rh and I still have pain meds. Of course I've learned my " lesson, " I will now be SO careful.

I know so many of you have it so much worse, you can't get pain meds atall, and I'm so sorry. So thanks for listening to my story - if you've made it this far :) - even though I know a lot of you are hurting and have much worse stuff going on. I just needed to vent and let it out. This group is a lifesaver :)Take care,

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- While you may think it was all your fault, it isnt. Doctors throw pain meds at you because its fast and convenient but every script they write is monitored and If they have too free a hand on something like codone, then they all of a sudden remember that they can get in trouble for this. There is a frightening trend in the medical community about Narcotics like Codone or Benzodiazepines. Nobody wants you on them. They create more problems (addicts) then they cure. Of course suddenly you get a hole in your gut because of the free handed meds the doctor gave you. Its not their body after all. Its not their PAIN. Just so you can put things like this in perspective. While pain and medication do things to your mind, the pharmacists, nurses and doctors add to the stress by prescribing medication and then formulary changes make them impossible to get. My PCP or primary fills almost all my prescriptions because my RD is too busy or too lazy. She was actually mad about that. I cant say as I blame her. Alot of her patients are falling through holes in the medicare part D system and unable to get pain meds or psych meds across the board. They perpetuate this system of dependency and then leave you high and dry or scrambling and begging. Its outrageous. It affects your dignity and self esteem. I have found a way to beat them at their own game. I am prescribed 50mg of trazadone but need only 25mgs so they give me 15 pills of 50mg to last me a month and I have to bite them in half. The pills are half the size they used to be so biting them in half is quite a challenge. Finding the other half the next night is even more challenging. I take Darvocet. That is darvon and tylenol. It comes in generic of course. 650mg RED caplets. I told the doctor that one pill last me 4 or 5 days because I only take a 1/4 of the pill or a nibble each night!!!!!!. You should see the look on my docs face. Puzzled for sure. So they give me 30 pills to last me 90 days. You get where I am going with this. The thing is, I purposely leave myself on the edge of pain and leave myself under medicated. I take an extra Ibuprofen instead of more darvocet. I had to go to the ER recently due to trauma around my neck and after a Cspine series, the ER doctor said my neck was riddled with arthritis and bone spurs. A mess he called it. My RD hasnt taken an xray of my neck ever. Why wasnt I being given PT? If I was in pain and have Darvocet and Soma why not take as much as I need? I told him something that shocked him I think. I said, "I wont self medicate and need a doctors permission to take more than the prescribed amount!" He said, My god, just take as much as you need. I have had on a soft collar and wrote me prescriptions for extra if I wanted it. I said I would see my PCP if I needed more. If something is wrong, then do the test, find the problem and fix it. Dont load me full of medication so you dont have to do a costly test on me. Pump me full of drugs, shut me up and its a cheap fix, that is, until you bleed out with an ulcer because of those drugs. Do get to a pain clinic but do not think you are an addict. Dont let anyone tell you no. The doctors started you DOWN this ROAD, and they just let you wander around the system until something really goes wrong. When they have to assume responsibility for managing YOUR PAIN, you finally come to understand that they back off and suddenly get amnesia. Did YOU cause this addiction to Codone? No. The Doctor did because he was too busy or too inept to send you for better, appropriate treatment. They tell a doctor in med school, DO NO HARM and look where you are now. You will be on methodone before you know it. Thats what pain management really means. OOPS we made an ADDICT out of this one, better send her for methodone so we can cover the mistake we made in the first place. Fight back and know doctors can do harm. Alot of it. Hugs, Deborah

On 6/9/06, <kyrik@...> wrote:

I just had the most horrible experience with my rh. It turned out okay but I was so scared I couldn't even write about it even though I wantedall your advice.My rh had prescribed 1 dose of 7.5/500 hydrocodone per day, but I got a horrible ulcer that that was misdiagnosed and untreated for about a month. I literally couldn't take a mouthful of food or even water without pain meds on board. (I lost 15 pounds in a month.) So during that time I was taking three doses a day. Then when the ulcer got better I went down to 2 doses.I told him (and his nurse) all about it 2 weeks ago and they just nodded. So I assumed he was giving me the freedom to manage my pain, just like with prednisone.But when I went to refill the hydrocodone (way early, I'd gone thru 4 months worth in 2 months,) his nurse said that since I was "self medicating," the doc would prescribe one more month at one dose a day and then he would NEVER give me narcotics again. Plus they were sending a letter to that effect.I was so freaked out. I mean, I have another 40 years or so to deal with this disease and knowing that the letter would follow me forever and that I'd probably be denied pain meds because it would look like a was an addict and a drug seeker scared me to death. I thought I'd have to find a new rh and was terrified of that, too, because this one has been so kind and nice and helped me so much.Oh, and the nurse said to go to a pain management clinic, but I'm already going to PT for a herniated disc and my cervical spine, but the latter is getting worse.So I figured I had to talk to him and I made an appt with him, only I couldn't get in till July 27th. But luckily there was a cancellation today. I was so afraid to go in and talk to him about it. He's a specialist, how on earth could I "confront" someoone with so much power, especially power over my quality of life?But I knew we had to talk because I couldn't understand why he'd been okay with it before and then just cut me off. I mean, if he would have told me 2 weeks ago to stop doing it, that he didn't want me "self-medicating", I would totally have done what he said.I cried for at least half the appt and told him what I was feeling and thinking and why and how I'd been taking the hydrocodone, and he was so nice. Early in the appt he said, "I don't want this to be a battle, either, we'll work through it." He explained why he'd done and felt what he did, and it made sense.In the end he believed me and upped my dose of hydrocodone to what I was hoping for and ordered an MRI of my cervical spine, and we'll also be going up on the lyrica, which is helping my finger pain a little and may eventually help the cervical spine, too. Plus I'm gonna see if he can refer me to PTs who know about RA.So, I still have my trusted, kind rh and I still have pain meds. Of course I've learned my "lesson," I will now be SO careful. I know so many of you have it so much worse, you can't get pain meds atall, and I'm so sorry. So thanks for listening to my story - if you've made it this far :) - even though I know a lot of you are hurting and have much worse stuff going on. I just needed to vent and let it out. This group is a lifesaver :)Take care,

"Have no fear for what tomorrow may bring. The same loving God who cares for you today will take care of you tomorrow and every day. God will either shield you from suffering or give you unfailing strength to bear it. Be at peace, then, and put aside all anxious thoughts and imaginations."-St Francis DeSales

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Hi ,

Its nice to see you posting. I am sorry you had a horrible

experience with your doctor. Glad to hear its straightened out. I

do know how you feel. Its really sad when we have to beg for pain

meds. My doctor took me off the RA meds, and lowered my Lortab. So,

I'm dealing with it, but in a lot of pain. My fingers are locking up

on me, and I'm having problems walking. My feet and ankles are

hurting SO bad. What can I do though? I will see him before the 3

month appointment, and will have a talk with him. I think he is

trying to rule out RA or Lupus, not sure. But, its hard on patients

to go through all this, while they decide.

There has been a lot in the news about pain meds, and people driving

on them, causing accidents. The OSU basketball coach here in OK was

taking Lortab and drunk when he plowed a car, and then hit a tree, so

that doesn't help at all. The docs are trying to cover their behind,

but what do the patients do that really need the meds. It's really

sad, and not sure what we will do.

I am glad you have your meds this month, good luck Tawny

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Hello , No I'm not , I was at one time but had to give my remacaid up when I had to stop working in Aug. 05 . johnsnooksmama@... wrote: I was just wondering if those of you on narcotic pain meds are on any of the biological drugs... __________________________________________________

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