Re: Mostafa

[Guest guest]

Mostafa,

I just read my last post. I didnt mean to sound

like " You should do this, you SHould do that..... " I

really should have just let you know what has worked

for me, rather than telling you what to do. One thing

about RA is that everyone is different and reacts

differently to everything. Sorry to sound like I was

playing doctor. Good luck.

--- j_maxine24 <jada_letrud@...> wrote:

> My dx was August 2005. I have been on MTX,

> Sulfasalazine, and

> Enbrel. Things were going well until I started

> Enbrel. By the time I

> got to the 5th shot I had a horrible rash. I stopped

> Enbrel and then

> ended up in the hospital for a month. Basically my

> liver and kidneys

> failed. It was a disaster but I'm alive. The

> doctors think it was the

> Enbrel that caused everything to go haywire.

>

> I had so much hope for Enbrel ... everyone says it

> is such a wonder

> drug. Is there anyone else out there with an Enbrel

> horror story? or

> someone that's had major troubles finding the right

> med?

>

> Give me some hope so I don't feel so doomed!

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[Guest guest]

If depression is part of the disease itself, then why doesn't everyone develop it? I've had RA for about 20 years -- 16 since diagnosis. I have several friends who have it also, one of them very severe, and neither has ever had even mild depression.

----- Original Message -----

From:

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 2:23 AM

Subject: Mostafa

Dear Gwen,> I didn't mean at all that people stop taking medicine at all and this is not what I meant at all.> > All I meant is part of our depression is pyschological as I had RA and didn't know for 4 years and I didn't suffer from any sort of depression. But after I knew, I started to have depression.> > I hope it is clear.> Sorry for misunderstanding,> mostafaI didn't think you were talking about stopping or not taking medication.I too think I had RA for many years before it finally manifested in myfingers so that it could be identified. I had extreme fatigue, infections, pain, etc, for tenyears, then about a year and a half ago I got very clinically depressed.Before that my depression/moods were "normal." But the depression hit hard - I kept saying "my life sucks", but I didn't really understand why I was feeling that way - and then the actual RA symptoms hit hard a little bit later.Personally I think the depression is part circumstantial/psychologicaland partly part of the disease itself.My 2 cents...> > Gwen Orel <gwenorel@...> wrote:> Mostafa,> that may well be true for you but does not refute the scientific> studies I posted and to suggest to others that they not seek treatment> based on your result is irresponsible.> > Rats don't know they have arthritis, yet when injected with> inflammation causing cells they clearly exhibit signs of clinical> depression.> > Just as everyone will have different reactions to the disease,> everyone will not develop arthritis.> > Most people here could not have had the disease for five years and not> know it.> > I got the disease at 14 and by 19 my hands were severely deformed. I> had to give up the violin, which I played seriously, and could not> progress on piano. And this was while knowing I had the illness and> being treated for it.> > I wish you nothing but well, but please do not encourage people not to> seek treatment when they can be helped.> > > > > >>Hello,>> I had RA since I was 20 years old and I knew only 2 months ago> > that I have this disease.I am now 25 years old. This is due to wrong> diagnosis. Let me tell you that before I knew I have RA, during the 5> years of wrong diagnosis, my mood was normal and I had a very normal> life except when RA is high and I have problems in some joints.> Doctors used to say here it is just inflammation. I used to use hot> water and that is it.> >> >> After I knew I have RA, my mood not is most of the times down. I> > think the depression is just a psychological reaction to knowing the> disease itself or the medications but not the disease as I had it for> 5 years without knowing it and I didn't have depression.> >> >> I think if we just deal with our life normally and forget we have> > RA, this will boost our mood. I am trying to do this.> >> >> Thank you,>> mostafa.>>>>>> __________________________________________________>>

[Guest guest]

A lot of things don’t necessarily

come with RA but they are common enough to be associated with it. The American College of Rheumatology has seven

criteria for diagnosing RA and any four of them qualify for a positive

diagnosis. That means that many people who do not have such things as

morning stiffness or RA showing in blood work may still have RA. The same

is true of depression, even though it is not one of the recognized symptoms of

RA. It is just a common accompaniment to any chronic condition.

Once people recognize that the condition is forever the people can become

depressed even though they were not depressed before realizing that they would

not get over the condition.

Depression comes in many varieties and

everyone with or without RA is somewhat depressed at times such as sadness from

loss of a pet. Mild depression may not be recognized as such by either

the depressed person or their friends but that does not mean it does not

exist. At least that’s my opinion. God bless.

From: Rheumatoid Arthritis [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of LH

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 4:29

AM

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Subject: Re:

Mostafa

If depression is

part of the disease itself, then why doesn't everyone develop it? I've had RA

for about 20 years -- 16 since diagnosis. I have several friends who have it

also, one of them very severe, and neither has ever had even mild depression.