Guest guest Posted July 22, 2000 Report Share Posted July 22, 2000 In a message dated 07/21/2000 10:48:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, elevatordance@... writes: << According to Dr Amy, we can only use Milk Thistle if our kid swallows pills. Is this because it smells or tastes bad? Any alternatives? >> Not so, my friend! I have been getting liquid Milk Thistle into my son in his pear juice...you just have to make sure it is free of grain alcohol! NO SMELL, NO TASTE and he seems to drink it right down like he CRAVES it or something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2000 Report Share Posted July 22, 2000 << According to Dr Amy, we can only use Milk Thistle if our kid swallows pills. Is this because it smells or tastes bad? Any alternatives? >> I don't know why it is. I have pulled apart capsules and eaten it and it doesn't have much taste (I used HealthSmart brand). I know of one kid who doesn't swallow capsules who is having it mixed into his food and it is doing him a lot of good. Andy Cutler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2000 Report Share Posted July 22, 2000 Andy, According to Dr Amy, we can only use Milk Thistle if our kid swallows pills. Is this because it smells or tastes bad? Any alternatives? Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2000 Report Share Posted July 22, 2000 I've been giving the boys milk thistle mixed in oj with their other supplements to help their liver, etc, etc., they take it okay. Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2000 Report Share Posted July 22, 2000 , Do you have pear juice without corn syrup? I looked for that in the grocery store and did not find it. Thanks for the tip, Heidi Re: [ ] Milk Thistle > In a message dated 07/21/2000 10:48:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > elevatordance@... writes: > > << According to Dr Amy, we can only use Milk Thistle if our kid swallows > pills. > Is this because it smells or tastes bad? Any alternatives? > >> > > Not so, my friend! I have been getting liquid Milk Thistle into my son in > his pear juice...you just have to make sure it is free of grain alcohol! NO > SMELL, NO TASTE and he seems to drink it right down like he CRAVES it or > something! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Make new friends, find the old at Classmates.com: > 1/7075/9/_/705339/_/964235248/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2000 Report Share Posted July 22, 2000 Thanks I will go back and get some. Heidi Re: [ ] Milk Thistle > << According to Dr Amy, we can only use Milk Thistle if our kid swallows > pills. > Is this because it smells or tastes bad? Any alternatives? >> > > I don't know why it is. I have pulled apart capsules and eaten it and it > doesn't have much taste (I used HealthSmart brand). I know of one kid who > doesn't swallow capsules who is having it mixed into his food and it is doing > him a lot of good. > > Andy Cutler > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Life's too short to send boring email. Let SuperSig come to the rescue. > 1/6809/9/_/705339/_/964238927/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2000 Report Share Posted July 23, 2000 In a message dated 07/23/2000 12:57:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, elevatordance@... writes: << I thought I just ordered a powder inside capsules, from Solgar, does this come in powder? or did I order a liquid? Heidi >> I have LIQUID from Nature's Answer - 1 fl oz bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2000 Report Share Posted July 23, 2000 I thought I just ordered a powder inside capsules, from Solgar, does this come in powder? or did I order a liquid? Heidi > > Not so, my friend! I have been getting liquid Milk Thistle into my son in > his pear juice...you just have to make sure it is free of grain alcohol! NO > SMELL, NO TASTE and he seems to drink it right down like he CRAVES it or > something! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Make new friends, find the old at Classmates.com: > 1/7075/9/_/705339/_/964235248/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2000 Report Share Posted September 6, 2000 Hi a, Jeannette again, yes, I was taking Milk Thistle for quite some time and my liver enzymes both went up on it and went down and up again and down. So, who knows if it helps because at the same time my MTX dosage was going up and down too. I have heard from numerous sources, including the pharmacist, that it is good for detoxifying the liver. It is however quite expensive. Right now, since the beginning of this week, I am off again only because of the expense. A bottle of 60 costs $8.XX and you are suppose to take it four X day. If I could get my hands on a huge bottle that costs reasonable, I would continue taking it. It can't hurt I am sure. Jeannette (the yapper) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2000 Report Share Posted September 6, 2000 i will have to ask about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2000 Report Share Posted September 6, 2000 is this a supplement or a prescrition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2000 Report Share Posted September 8, 2000 a: Thanks and thanks. Jeannette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2000 Report Share Posted September 8, 2000 Jeanette, Milk thistle is routinely prescribed by doctors in Europe, specifically for liver disorders such as hepatitis c, hepatitis b and cirrhosis. It's a shame that they can't prescribe it here just as they do folic acid. The cost of supplements is a downfall when we can get our meds cheaper with prescription plans. If I find a reliable resource for the milk thistle, I'll let you know. My liver enzymes are ok, so I don't have to take it, but I sure take a lot of other things, and am always looking for good prices. P.S. we love your yapping a ----- Original Message ----- From: <ednettieolson@...> < egroups> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [ ] milk thistle > > Hi a, > > Jeannette again, yes, I was taking Milk Thistle for quite some time and my > liver enzymes both went up on it and went down and up again and down. So, > who knows if it helps because at the same time my MTX dosage was going up and > down too. I have heard from numerous sources, including the pharmacist, that > it is good for detoxifying the liver. It is however quite expensive. Right > now, since the beginning of this week, I am off again only because of the > expense. A bottle of 60 costs $8.XX and you are suppose to take it four X > day. If I could get my hands on a huge bottle that costs reasonable, I would > continue taking it. It can't hurt I am sure. > > Jeannette (the yapper) > > Our websites: http://rheumatoid.arthritis.freehosting.net/ > http://www.rasupport.webprovider.com/ > Our chat room: www.delphi.com/RheumatoidArth1/start > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2000 Report Share Posted September 8, 2000 It is a supplement. > > is this a supplement or a prescrition? > > Our websites: http://rheumatoid.arthritis.freehosting.net/ > http://www.rasupport.webprovider.com/ > Our chat room: www.delphi.com/RheumatoidArth1/start > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 In a message dated 9/11/00 7:13:11 PM Central Daylight Time, aA@... writes: << Jeanette, Welcome and welcome Please please please consult with your doctor first. When I find thing like this that I want to try I print out the information and give it to my doctor. I did this with msm and actually got the go ahead. I hope it helps you. a >> a: What are you talking about? Are you talking to me? I haven't a clue what you mean. Jeannette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 Jeanette, Welcome and welcome Please please please consult with your doctor first. When I find thing like this that I want to try I print out the information and give it to my doctor. I did this with msm and actually got the go ahead. I hope it helps you. a ----- Original Message ----- From: <ednettieolson@...> < egroups> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [ ] milk thistle > > a: > > Thanks and thanks. > > Jeannette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 a: Now I know what you were talking about.....Milk Thistle. I had been taking it for at least 6 months with dr. approval. I just recently stopped because of the price. That is why I am looking to find a place where I can get it in a larger quantity and a cheaper price. Thanks. Jeannette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 GAC> I have heard great things about milk thistle. I want to detox so bad. But I GAC> am allergic to herbs and grass abd weed things so I have been afraid to take GAC> it. I cant use any herbal stuff. Would that be in this? GAC> Janet ================ All I know, Janet, is that the milk thistle in the capsules are from European milk thistle, not the same thing as we have here. The active ingredient is silmaryn. I can't say whether this would bother you or not. You might want to speak to an allergist about it. Barth NEW: TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 <<Can anyone suggest a brand of milk thistle that they think will give the best results? Thanks Much!>> I think that it's all pretty standard. I take TruNature 200 mg softgels. They recommend 1 softgel 3 times a day. Before a liver flush I have doubled it a couple of weeks before, and, I am convinced that I've had better flushes because of it. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Hello, I have a bottle of milk thistle--bought it some time ago after reading about it--but when I asked my rheumy if it was safe to take, she recommended that I didn't take it because she didn't know much about it or how it might interact with meds. Sierra Got a call from > the rheumy yesterday. My liver enzymes were 4 times > > higher than they should be, so I'm off Arava after only 3 weeks. > I've > > been feeling so well lately, but that's probably not due to the > Arava > > as I was told it takes at least 4 weeks to help. > > > > I was resting when the doctor called and then I was in a bit of > shock > > about the news so I forgot to ask the doctor some questions. > Maybe > > you can help. Will stoppping the med be enough to restore my > liver to > > health? Is there anything I can do with diet to support liver > > detoxification and healing? Any foods I should avoid? (I'm > thinking > > fats are a no-no and lots of lemonade would be a good idea.) > > > > I have an appointment with a naturopath in two weeks. Seems like > > great timing. > > > > Once again, I questioned my doctor's quality of care. When she > > called, she thought I was on methotrexate! She makes so many > mistakes > > because she's TOO RUSHED all the time. But I've seen two other > > rheumys and she's better than they were. There's a shortage of > > rheumys in my area and they're all overworked. I know this is > > irrational, but I feel a bit distrustful again because she gave > me > > something that harmed me. I knew the risks, but I still have this > > feeling of " I trusted you and look what happened! " > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Sierra > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to- Phone. > Get Messenger with Voice > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 from what i've read and what i've been told (although honestly, i haven't asked my rheumy, mainly because i hadn't given it much thought until after i saw him and after i started the mtx and because i know he doesn't know a whole lot about homeopathics/supplements and stuff although he does know the folic acid depletion but i guess everyone does . . . . . oye, sorry, i'm rambling). anyhow, my understanding is there really isn't any negative interaction with other meds and/or supplements and that it's okay to take. i did ask my pharmacist but he also didn't know much either way. i did google the milk thistle and read a bunch of articles about it before starting it. also quite a few veterinary articles (i have two greyhounds) since i know many people who have had their dogs on it for various reasons (chemo being a main one). if you get any more info, please let us know. thnx, bonnie/boys Got a call from > > the rheumy yesterday. My liver enzymes were 4 times > > > higher than they should be, so I'm off Arava after only 3 > weeks. > > I've > > > been feeling so well lately, but that's probably not due to the > > Arava > > > as I was told it takes at least 4 weeks to help. > > > > > > I was resting when the doctor called and then I was in a bit of > > shock > > > about the news so I forgot to ask the doctor some questions. > > Maybe > > > you can help. Will stoppping the med be enough to restore my > > liver to > > > health? Is there anything I can do with diet to support liver > > > detoxification and healing? Any foods I should avoid? (I'm > > thinking > > > fats are a no-no and lots of lemonade would be a good idea.) > > > > > > I have an appointment with a naturopath in two weeks. Seems > like > > > great timing. > > > > > > Once again, I questioned my doctor's quality of care. When she > > > called, she thought I was on methotrexate! She makes so many > > mistakes > > > because she's TOO RUSHED all the time. But I've seen two other > > > rheumys and she's better than they were. There's a shortage of > > > rheumys in my area and they're all overworked. I know this is > > > irrational, but I feel a bit distrustful again because she gave > > me > > > something that harmed me. I knew the risks, but I still have > this > > > feeling of " I trusted you and look what happened! " > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > Sierra > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to- > Phone. > > Get Messenger with Voice > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/Home There is a place at the above site where you can check interactions of milk thistle with medications and many other herbals. I only checked it for Methotrexate and there is no interaction. God bless. From: Rheumatoid Arthritis [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of snowdrift52003 Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:42 PM Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: milk thistle Hello, I have a bottle of milk thistle--bought it some time ago after reading about it--but when I asked my rheumy if it was safe to take, she recommended that I didn't take it because she didn't know much about it or how it might interact with meds. Sierra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 I used milk thistle to help my liver after enzymes shot up due to methotrexate. The docs were astonsihed at how quickly my liver enzymes got okay after using milk thistle a couple of weeks.....good stuff...really helped me out. Kay in La. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 I took it now and then for helping detox liver. I have gallbladder stones and high cholesterol despite of my vegetarian diet. Rena Milk Thistle Milk Thistle: The seeds, fruit, and leaves of Milk Thistle have been used since the Roman times as a liver tonic. Also known as n, St. 's, and Our Lady's thistle, the herb is native to Europe. Originating in the Mediterranean region and grown and used as a vegetable throughout Europe, it was brought to the United States and has adapted to life in the wild in California and along the East Coast. It is a tall plant with large prickly leaves and a reddish purple flower. The white spots along the ribs of the leaves were said to have been drops of the Virgin 's milk. The medicinal use of milk thistle goes back two thousand years. Medieval herbalists also made use of this, and in the sixteenth century English herbalists adopted it. It did not maintain its popularity, however, and by the early twentieth century only homeopaths were familiar with it. With a renewal of interest in herbal medicines, researchers started to investigate milk thistle scientifically in the 1950s. The part of the plant that is used is the small hard fruit, without the fuzz, and the seeds, which contain fatty acids and flavonoids. Milk Thistle helps maintain healthy liver function. This is important because the liver performs more than 500 functions in the body per day and is the last line of defense in handling toxins. The liver detoxifies poisons (such as alcohol and pollutants) that enter our bloodstream. Milk Thistle's silymarin stimulates the flow of bile from the liver, the primary function of which breaks down poisons and fats. This herb is generally highly recommended by herbalists as a "staple" in the herbal medicinal chest. Milk Thistle extracts contain 70 to 80% silymarin. Many clinical studies have shown silymarin has therapeutic effects in treating several types of liver disorders such as cirrhosis, chronic hepatitis, and fatty infiltration of the liver. Milk thistle is used to treat a number of liver conditions including slowing the advancement of liver cirrhosis. It may be helpful in treating Hepatitis B. It has been shown to stimulate protein synthesis within the liver, leading to tissue regeneration, fights pollutants, inhibits free-radical damage, and helps skin conditions related to poor liver function. Biopsies and laboratory studies have demonstrated that silymarin protects the liver from the damaging effects of alcohol and toxic chemicals and stimulates the production of new liver cells to replace damaged ones. Silymarin may also help prevent or treat gallstones by increasing the solubility of the bile. Milk thistle extracts have shown very low toxicity, even when taken over a long period of time however, any serious medical condition requires professional care and anyone being treated for liver ailments should ask their doctor prior to taking any herb or herbal preparation. The herb has also been used historically to treat depression and to increase breast milk production. Today it is a staple of alternative medicine for pregnant and nursing mothers. However, pregnant women and nursing mothers should also always seek professional guidance prior to using any herb or supplement. Milk thistle should not be administered as a tea or as dried herb because silymarin is neither water-soluble nor readily absorbed from the intestinal tract. Proprietary products standardized to 70 percent silymarin are utilized in Europe at a usual dose of 420 mg daily. Treatment normally lasts four to eight weeks at a minimum. Trials of three and six months are common. Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 How often and what dosage were you taking? Side effects from milk thistle happen only rarely, but may include stomach pain, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, headache, rash or other skin reactions, joint pain, impotence, and anaphylaxis (a life-threatening allergic reaction that causes throat tightness, shortness of breath, and, possibly, loss of consciousness.) The last two reactions listed are extremely rare. Milk thistle should not be used by pregnant or breastfeeding women. Blua Birdo <bluabirdo@...> wrote: I took it now and then for helping detox liver. I have gallbladder stones and high cholesterol despite of my vegetarian diet. Rena Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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