a question

August 6, 2001

Laurie,

was the say way!! She preferred to look one way, but had complete range

of motion. Oddly enough as soon as we put her in the helmet that problem was

finished (she was 9 months at the time). Now at 18 months we have no issues

with that whatsoever! We never did any PT, but doesn't seem to have any

residual issues so I don't really think it was tort. (I used to think that

was what it was!)

Let us know what you find out from your dr!

Marci (Mom to )

Oklahoma

August 7, 2001

Hi Laurie,

My son Sam also showed a strong preference for looking to one side, but when the dr tested him out at about 5 months he seemed to have a full range of motion. The dr. said it wasn't tort. I still have my suspicions. He's almost two now, we never had a helmet and his head is still kinda flat. I'm still waiting for the "it'll round out on its own" to happen. I'll keep ya posted. smiles.

Pamela in NY

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Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 2:37 PM

Subject: A Question

Do any of you have children who have a strong preference for holding their head in one direction who do not have torticollis? My girl rarely turns her head to the left but I know she is capable of doing so. She will be seeing her doctor earlier than September, although when I spoke to the doctor today, she said she thought she had checked my girl's neck for movement the last time she saw her. At least I'll know more by the end of this month!!Robin's Mom, LaurieMassachusettsFor more plagio info

May 25, 2003

Laine, we do have a couple of people here who are using Humira or who

have tried it in the past. If you don't get any responses (those few who

are experienced with Humira may not be reading right now), you can do a

search on " Humira " in the archives. You may find some posts from people

in the group and what they're saying about it that way.

Loved your " snow angels " story! Nice to have such a perceptive, kind

son.

[ ] a question

> Awhile ago someone on the list asked about Humira. I didn't see any

responses. Anyone out there on it? How is it working?

>

> On a lighter note, Jane, your post about camping reminded me of a

funny situation last Winter. My family, including grandchildren, went

sledding at a nearby hill. The cars are parked at the top and I stood

there watching everyone having such a great time...memories of long ago

(probably around the time the wheel was invented!) flooding back and

leading to a sort of temporary insanity.

>

> You guessed it....I got on the sled and with some degree of reckless

abandon ;-) set off down the hill. It really was fun (if I don't

think about the jolts to these old bones) until I got to the bottom and

tried to get off the sled.

>

> Oh, silly me, looking a little like a beached whale, struggling to get

off the silly sled and feeling as if every eye was on my antics. At one

point I tried to roll to the left but as my left shoulder is kind of

useless, that was a ridiculous idea and only added to the comedy. I

tried to look like I was making " snow angels " but that was a transparent

effort at saving the situation.

>

> And lucky me, to have a son who is a body builder and a sensitive

young man. He noticed my predicament (but of course, who could miss

it????) and came to my rescue!

>

> Sometimes I allow myself to forget about this disease and sometimes I

get in trouble because of that but it was fun while it lasted!

>

> Wishing you all a pain-free holiday weekend!

> Laine

May 27, 2003

Laine,

So glad you had fun sledding! Sometimes it is good to forget about these

diseases and do things that other take for granted. You'll chuckle about

your ride for a long time.

I haven't tried Humira, but others here have. Hopefully they will write

about their experiences.

a

> Awhile ago someone on the list asked about Humira. I didn't see any

> responses. Anyone out there on it? How is it working?

>

> On a lighter note, Jane, your post about camping reminded me of a funny

> situation last Winter. My family, including grandchildren, went sledding at a

> nearby hill. The cars are parked at the top and I stood there watching

> everyone having such a great time...memories of long ago (probably around the

> time the wheel was invented!) flooding back and leading to a sort of temporary

> insanity.

>

> You guessed it....I got on the sled and with some degree of reckless abandon

> ;-) set off down the hill. It really was fun (if I don't think about the

> jolts to these old bones) until I got to the bottom and tried to get off the

> sled.

>

> Oh, silly me, looking a little like a beached whale, struggling to get off the

> silly sled and feeling as if every eye was on my antics. At one point I tried

> to roll to the left but as my left shoulder is kind of useless, that was a

> ridiculous idea and only added to the comedy. I tried to look like I was

> making " snow angels " but that was a transparent effort at saving the

> situation.

>

> And lucky me, to have a son who is a body builder and a sensitive young man.

> He noticed my predicament (but of course, who could miss it????) and came to

> my rescue!

>

> Sometimes I allow myself to forget about this disease and sometimes I get in

> trouble because of that but it was fun while it lasted!

>

> Wishing you all a pain-free holiday weekend!

> Laine

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August 20, 2004

I have a son with autism and apraxia/dyspraxia. Since starting VB my son's

intelligibility has improved, but not because his articulation has improved.

It's because he has a greater range of language to use to explain things.

If I don't understand what he is saying, he often finds other words to

restate himself. For example, this morning he was pointing to my

husband's shirts in the closets and saying " cuya shoyts. " I knew it was

something about shirts, but couldn't make out what " cuya " was. Then he said

" daee's shirts a many cuyas " (Daddy'd shirts have many colors). I could at

least figure it out through the context of what he was saying, since he was

using more words.

We haev a LONG way to go in terms of speech/articulation, but, overall, we

have had great improvements in his functional communication skills since

starting VB.

Geraldine

[ ] A question

Hi all,

I wanted to know as someone who is considering VB. My son who is Autistic

and Apraxic and Aphasic can anyone tell me if it has done any good for their

son or daughter in the same condition? My son is very strong visually but i

have noticed that sign langauge has helped his verbal language alot.

Thanks for your input!!!

Jane R.

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January 8, 2005

Faith, I still have pain when I am not flaring. It is a bit more

managable, though. I don't know, maybe it's because I have gotten

used to it. Especially after work. The pain is stronger and the

fatigue is a bother. The hot tub helps sooooo much. It loosens

those tense muscles and it also helps me to sleep. Of course, so do

the pain meds. The meds are more effective then. It seems the pain

is a little worse at night when I start to relax. Typical, huh?!?!

But, when I get a flare, it puts the daily pain and fatigue into

perspective. There is also a lot of daily stiffness. Again, hot

water therapy is helpful there too. I also try to stretch a lot,

like a cat. That helps as well, gets the circulation moving a bit

especially if I have been sitting a while. Stretching helps before

getting up....Hope it helps...Marina in Ohio

--- In , " advoc84kids " <fmt2002@c...>

wrote:

>

> Since I this is my first apparent flare episode of RA ( or

possibly

> lupus) flare..I have a question?

> What is it like with RA ( or lupus) when you are not flaring? Are

> there still symptoms?

> faith

August 9, 2005

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" Mold Remediation in Schools and Commercial Buildings "

Many types of molds exist. All molds have the potential to cause

health effects. Molds can produce allergens that can trigger allergic

reactions or even asthma attacks in people allergic to mold. Others are

known to produce potent toxins and/or irritants. Potential health

concerns are an important reason to prevent mold growth and to

remediate/clean up any existing indoor mold growth.

--- In , " ldelp84227 " <ldelp84227@a...>

wrote:

> Don't know if this is a stupid question but what kind of mold isn't

> harmful. Just was wondering. Thanks,

November 3, 2005

Hi Beth,

this the answer, wrote by Shireen.

Bye bye

Tamy

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Date: Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:43 am

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Hello Francesco

The best person you can see in London is called:

Mr Collin (in the UK, surgeons are called " Mr " )

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > > I am thankful to have found this group! My name is

> and

> > I

> > > am

> > > > affected with BPES and my daughter Paige was also born with

> it.

> > > There

> > > > is no other family history of BPES so it originated with

me. I

> > > had no

> > > > idea what I had until my daughter was born with the same

shaped

> > > eyes

> > > > two years ago and my husband and I started researching. I

had

> > > > corrective surgery when I was a year old where a plastic

> surgeon

> > > > corrected the inside corners, and then a follow up sugery

was

> > > > performed to lift the lids at age five. I have had no other

> > > surgeries.

> > > >

> > > > I am in the process of speaking with doctors in my area (I

live

> > in

> > > > North Carolina) and I wanted to get some feedback from any

of

> > you

> > > who

> > > > might be able to help. I have spoken with both a pediatric

> > > > ophthalmologist and plastic surgeon. I told them that I

would

> > > want

> > > > them to work together depending on their areas of expertise

> when

> > > Paige

> > > > has her surgeries. However, the plastic surgeon was

explaining

> > > that

> > > > he would also want to do a bone graft on Paige in the space

> > where

> > > the

> > > > eye sits in the skull. He went on to explain that in

> unaffected

> > > > individuals, as they mature, the bone in the eye socket

builds

> > up

> > > and

> > > > as a result the eye socket gets smaller, allowing the eye to

> > > protrude

> > > > just enough to create the " fold " in the eyelid. In the case

> with

> > > > individuals with BPES, the eye socket in the skull remains

> > > enlarged

> > > > and therefore the eye sits further back in the skull. Has

> > anyone

> > > else

> > > > ever heard of this?

> > > >

> > > > Everything else that the doctors have said relating to her

> > > surgeries

> > > > are very much like what I had done twenty-five years ago.

That

> > > was

> > > > the only thing that made me feel uncertain. Any feedback

you

> > have

> > > > would be appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

November 3, 2005

That's interesting, thanks for sharing! I didn't know that..

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > I am thankful to have found this group! My name is

> > and

> > > I

> > > > am

> > > > > affected with BPES and my daughter Paige was also born with

> > it.

> > > > There

> > > > > is no other family history of BPES so it originated with

> me. I

> > > > had no

> > > > > idea what I had until my daughter was born with the same

> shaped

> > > > eyes

> > > > > two years ago and my husband and I started researching. I

> had

> > > > > corrective surgery when I was a year old where a plastic

> > surgeon

> > > > > corrected the inside corners, and then a follow up sugery

> was

> > > > > performed to lift the lids at age five. I have had no

other

> > > > surgeries.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am in the process of speaking with doctors in my area (I

> live

> > > in

> > > > > North Carolina) and I wanted to get some feedback from any

> of

> > > you

> > > > who

> > > > > might be able to help. I have spoken with both a pediatric

> > > > > ophthalmologist and plastic surgeon. I told them that I

> would

> > > > want

> > > > > them to work together depending on their areas of expertise

> > when

> > > > Paige

> > > > > has her surgeries. However, the plastic surgeon was

> explaining

> > > > that

> > > > > he would also want to do a bone graft on Paige in the space

> > > where

> > > > the

> > > > > eye sits in the skull. He went on to explain that in

> > unaffected

> > > > > individuals, as they mature, the bone in the eye socket

> builds

> > > up

> > > > and

> > > > > as a result the eye socket gets smaller, allowing the eye

to

> > > > protrude

> > > > > just enough to create the " fold " in the eyelid. In the case

> > with

> > > > > individuals with BPES, the eye socket in the skull remains

> > > > enlarged

> > > > > and therefore the eye sits further back in the skull. Has

> > > anyone

> > > > else

> > > > > ever heard of this?

> > > > >

> > > > > Everything else that the doctors have said relating to her

> > > > surgeries

> > > > > are very much like what I had done twenty-five years ago.

> That

> > > > was

> > > > > the only thing that made me feel uncertain. Any feedback

> you

> > > have

> > > > > would be appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 27, 2005

the newsletter would be a great idea, i say go for it

melissa

Yanosz Descouedresz <yanosz@...> wrote:

I have been asked by a few people to compile a weekly health newsletter

focussing on a wide variety of topics. I am willing to do it providing that

there is enough interest in such an

idea. If you are interested, let me know. If not, that's ok too. I'm just

trying to get an idea of who would be interested and if it's something I

should do... I'd love to do it if there's an interest. Perhaps you should

reply offlist so as not to clutter up the group space with this...

Yanosz Descouedresz

February 20, 2006

Can RA effect the spine? I know that because I am overweight my back can hurt. But I haven't gained any weight over the past year but I am getting more lower back pain. When I mention it to my doctor he says it's because I need to lose weight.

Vicki

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In a message dated 5/17/2006 7:41:17 AM Central Standard Time,

dreamer_plus@... writes:

I had said yesterday sometimes I wonder about my dx of RA (altho my blood

levels certainly bears out the dx)

Dreamer its not wierd. I have that happen to me as well. HUGS

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May 17, 2006

If I hold my hand in one position for 5 minutes, the fingers " freeze " .

I can't move them, I have to use the other hand to move them??????

Pris

May 17, 2006

whew, thank you. I am sorry that it is this way and that so many ppl have this,

but I am glad I am not as weird as they were starting to make me fel. LOL.

I do think it is that changeing that makes it even harder to learn accomodations

to compensate, Just when I figure out how to do somtething with my left hand OK

enough, then it is the left hand messed up again.

I am not sure just what my 2 docs think. some days I wonder if they just like

to play mind games, and maybe I am fun to play mind games with.

- In , Rainy <rainysue19@...> wrote:

>

> Odd?? Where did they earn their degree?? My joints trade places on either a

daily or weekly schedule.

>

> I go to bed with one hurting and new one hurting when I wake up. Trust me,

it's not odd. I've been doing it for 24 years.

>

> ~Rainy - who peeps in once in a while.

>

> dreamer_plus <dreamer_plus@...> wrote:

> My old rheumy and now my new rheumy seem to think this is odd. On one visit

one place will be terribly swollen and then next time they act kinda weird when

I am complaining about the other side o f my body. They make me feel like I

forgot what I had originally said was hurting me.

> I keep telling them it can change, and it does change. It changes a LOT.

>

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May 17, 2006

No problem! I'm glad I can help. What I wish?

Is that I had more days like today. Then, I would have the energy to peep in

more often. But since I've had this 24 years, and have arthritis in every joint,

I get maybe one to five good days a month. VERY frustrating. And where I live,

right now the weather has been so hot. Day before yesterday it was 92.

Yesterday, abt 83, today suppose to be abt 85. I love the heat ONLY when I am

sitting next to a swimming pool!

~Rainy

ps, THEY are the weird ones. Where did they graduate?? Duck U?

dreamer_plus <dreamer_plus@...> wrote:

whew, thank you. I am sorry that it is this way and that so many ppl have this,

but I am glad I am not as weird as they were starting to make me fel. LOL.

I do think it is that changeing that makes it even harder to learn accomodations

to compensate, Just when I figure out how to do somtething with my left hand OK

enough, then it is the left hand messed up again.

I am not sure just what my 2 docs think. some days I wonder if they just like

to play mind games, and maybe I am fun to play mind games with.

- In , Rainy <rainysue19@...> wrote:

>

> Odd?? Where did they earn their degree?? My joints trade places on either a

daily or weekly schedule.

>

> I go to bed with one hurting and new one hurting when I wake up. Trust me,

it's not odd. I've been doing it for 24 years.

>

> ~Rainy - who peeps in once in a while.

>

> dreamer_plus <dreamer_plus@...> wrote:

> My old rheumy and now my new rheumy seem to think this is odd. On one visit

one place will be terribly swollen and then next time they act kinda weird when

I am complaining about the other side o f my body. They make me feel like I

forgot what I had originally said was hurting me.

> I keep telling them it can change, and it does change. It changes a LOT.

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even like when I had the duptryanes (Ug I cannot spell that word LOL) the few

times, it hung around a day or 2 and then backed off, went to the other hand,

and then backed off. ANd it was not all my fingers, it was diff fingers each

time.....

Now I did have this tall hard bony ridge grow on the top of one hand at base of

the hand near wrist and that hung around many many months, it was not like the

nodules I have had...

and I had a nodule on an index finger for many months, a couple times too.

Sure keeps me busy being creative, trying to figure out how to do things,

LOL.....open the doors with this hand NO use that hand. go down stairs with

this foot first NO go with the OTHER one first this time. LOL. Never gets

boring........

- In , N2kids@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 5/17/2006 7:41:17 AM Central Standard Time,

> dreamer_plus@... writes:

>

> I had said yesterday sometimes I wonder about my dx of RA (altho my blood

> levels certainly bears out the dx)

>

> Dreamer its not wierd. I have that happen to me as well. HUGS

>

> http://www1.myspace.com/julz2kidz

>

May 17, 2006

I am very glad you were here, today, then. :-)

When I have a good day, I still have very good days so those days I am busy

trying to catch up, LOL. I get bored if I have a medium bad day where I am not

so pain filled that I sleep or whatever, but I cannot do the things I want to

do. On real bad days, I tend to sleep even more. I think it is my medium bad

days when I end up here. ANd those are usually my more crabby kind of days.

:-(

SO, I think the ppl here see me at my worst attitude times. I just realized

that. :-)

SORRY EVERYONE! It is not intentional.

I think on better days I try to tell myelf I do not have RA.so if I do not have

RA, gosh, why would I come here? LOL. (well, I could come to visit? LOL)

- In , Rainy <rainysue19@...> wrote:

>

> No problem! I'm glad I can help. What I wish?

>

> Is that I had more days like today. Then, I would have the energy to peep in

more often. But since I've had this 24 years, and have arthritis in every joint,

I get maybe one to five good days a month. VERY frustrating. And where I live,

right now the weather has been so hot. Day before yesterday it was 92.

Yesterday, abt 83, today suppose to be abt 85. I love the heat ONLY when I am

sitting next to a swimming pool!

>

> ~Rainy

>

> ps, THEY are the weird ones. Where did they graduate?? Duck U?

>

> dreamer_plus <dreamer_plus@...> wrote:

>

> whew, thank you. I am sorry that it is this way and that so many ppl have

this, but I am glad I am not as weird as they were starting to make me fel.

LOL.

>

> I do think it is that changeing that makes it even harder to learn

accomodations to compensate, Just when I figure out how to do somtething with my

left hand OK enough, then it is the left hand messed up again.

>

> I am not sure just what my 2 docs think. some days I wonder if they just like

to play mind games, and maybe I am fun to play mind games with.

>

> - In , Rainy <rainysue19@> wrote:

> >

> > Odd?? Where did they earn their degree?? My joints trade places on either a

daily or weekly schedule.

> >

> > I go to bed with one hurting and new one hurting when I wake up. Trust me,

it's not odd. I've been doing it for 24 years.

> >

> > ~Rainy - who peeps in once in a while.

> >

> > dreamer_plus <dreamer_plus@> wrote:

> > My old rheumy and now my new rheumy seem to think this is odd. On one

visit one place will be terribly swollen and then next time they act kinda weird

when I am complaining about the other side o f my body. They make me feel like

I forgot what I had originally said was hurting me.

> > I keep telling them it can change, and it does change. It changes a LOT.

>

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I'm a changer too!

BVan (Betty)

[ ] Re: a question

Yeah, it gets weird when I am somewhere one day with a limp on one side and

the other side the next day, or a splint on one hand one day and the other hand

the next day, ppl look at me really weird and say, I thought it was your other

hand yesterday- and I smile sweet and say " it was, ...ah the joys of RA " but

they give me a look that kinda makes me feel like they think I am making it all

up or something.

Then I get to wondering, gosh, am I crazy, is it all in myhead?

May 24, 2008

My daughter didn't say

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:19 PM, MELVIN JAENSCH <starchildrebelborninutah@...> wrote:

What does he feel? Antoinette Hummel <antoinette.hummel@...> wrote:

What I needed to know is how to tell. He feels things..

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Marty Cline <stompingelk@...> wrote:

I have to agree with what Joy says,honor this gift,Ithink we all are just some learn,mostly on there ownhow to develope this.Marty

--- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:> Listen to what he says. When he talks and it's> strange, don't chalk it up to imagination. And

> don't tell him, not to be silly. That is what> causes a lot of the psychic children to stop. > > Ask him questions that are not normal, but start> with telling him something you can do, that is not

> consider norm. Something like, " Did you know that I> talk to the bees and they listen to me and do what I> ask? Can you tell me something you do? " Don't> press, make a game of it.

> > You can make some cards, with pictures on one side. > Don't let him see them, but holding one card up at a> time, ask him what it is. Do make the cards simple,> with only one item on it, or it can be confusing.

> > The thing is, more children are psychic when they> are young, but society drums it out of them. The> thing to do is to encourage it.> > Hope this helps, Honey. Maybe, some of the others

> have some ideas or knowledge also, that will help,> and would be willing to share with us.> > Love, Joy> [ ] A question> >

> Does anyone in the group know how to tell if a 4> year old is physic? Spiritual freedom is my birthright. I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mentalprejudices and stereotypes of others.

I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can manipulateme or deceive me. I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and love. Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritualfreedom.

May 24, 2008

Thank you for sharing your experience.

I predicted me getting robbed. Talk about scary.

I was working at a 7 / 11 at the time.30 minutes after I said it , I was robbed.

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:17 PM, MELVIN JAENSCH <starchildrebelborninutah@...> wrote:

I know alot of Children see thinks at night I know I have and some times I still do I remember seeing Bears in the Bathroom when I was around three or four, Gee I'd like to get more in touch with that... I geuss what I was or might have been seeing was an Animal Guide or something they were Dark Shadows Protectors I think angry at that I was being Raped and there were other things too... I wonder what the Bears in the Bathroom were?

Rebekah Marty Cline <stompingelk@...> wrote:

I have to agree with what Joy says,honor this gift,Ithink we all are just some learn,mostly on there ownhow to develope this.Marty--- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:

> Listen to what he says. When he talks and it's> strange, don't chalk it up to imagination. And> don't tell him, not to be silly. That is what> causes a lot of the psychic children to stop.

> > Ask him questions that are not normal, but start> with telling him something you can do, that is not> consider norm. Something like, " Did you know that I> talk to the bees and they listen to me and do what I

> ask? Can you tell me something you do? " Don't> press, make a game of it. > > You can make some cards, with pictures on one side. > Don't let him see them, but holding one card up at a

> time, ask him what it is. Do make the cards simple,> with only one item on it, or it can be confusing.> > The thing is, more children are psychic when they> are young, but society drums it out of them. The

> thing to do is to encourage it.> > Hope this helps, Honey. Maybe, some of the others> have some ideas or knowledge also, that will help,> and would be willing to share with us.>

> Love, Joy> [ ] A question> > > Does anyone in the group know how to tell if a 4> year old is physic? Spiritual freedom is my birthright.

I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mentalprejudices and stereotypes of others. I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can manipulateme or deceive me. I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and love.

Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritualfreedom.

May 24, 2008

He's an Empath.Antoinette Hummel <antoinette.hummel@...> wrote: My daughter didn't say On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:19 PM, MELVIN JAENSCH <starchildrebelborninutah > wrote: What does he feel? Antoinette Hummel <antoinette.hummelgmail> wrote: What I needed to know is how to tell. He feels things.. On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Marty Cline <stompingelk > wrote: I have to agree with what Joy says,honor this gift,Ithink we all are just some learn,mostly on there ownhow to develope this.Marty --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyfuliglou> wrote:> Listen to what he says. When he talks and it's> strange, don't chalk it up to

imagination. And> don't tell him, not to be silly. That is what> causes a lot of the psychic children to stop. > > Ask him questions that are not normal, but start> with telling him something you can do, that is not> consider norm. Something like, "Did you know that I> talk to the bees and they listen to me and do what I> ask? Can you tell me something you do?" Don't> press, make a game of it. > > You can make some cards, with pictures on one side. > Don't let him see them, but holding one card up at a> time, ask him what it is. Do make the cards simple,> with only one item on it, or it can be confusing.> > The thing is, more children are psychic when they> are young, but society drums it out of them. The> thing to do is to encourage it.> > Hope this helps, Honey. Maybe, some of the others> have some ideas or knowledge also,

that will help,> and would be willing to share with us.> > Love, Joy> [ ] A question> > > Does anyone in the group know how to tell if a 4> year old is physic? Spiritual freedom is my birthright. I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mentalprejudices and stereotypes of others. I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can manipulateme or deceive me. I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and love. Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritualfreedom.

May 24, 2008

Ok Loretta,

i am sending this on to the group

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:27 PM, lsmith516@... <lsmith516@...> wrote:

it is not like that. he is overly sensitive for instance...he starts itching and saying he is itching yet there is no evidence of anything itching him. this happens often every day. or he says he is in pain but no one touched him. u can barely touch him and he is screaming that u are hurting him.

Re: [ ] A questionOk. I am sending this on to my daughter.I really want to thank you for all your help.On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Marty Cline <stompingelk@...> wrote:

> he might say things like somebody is coming before> they get there,or the phone is about to ring or maybe> name somebody right before they call or come> over.there are a thousand things.make sure you thank

> him for telling you something if he does,this will> encourage him to do it more.> If he is not doing any of these things,and you want> to know if he CAN...ask him to tell you things like is

> somebody going to call//come over today,and do not> give up,it will come out if it is supposed to.> Marty> --- Antoinette Hummel <antoinette.hummel@...<antoinette.hummel%40gmail.com>

> >> wrote:>> > What I needed to know is how to tell. He feels> > things..> >> > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Marty Cline

> > <stompingelk@... <stompingelk%40>> wrote:> >> > > I have to agree with what Joy says,honor this

> > gift,I> > > think we all are just some learn,mostly on there> > own> > > how to develope this.> > > Marty> > >> > > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@... <bjoyful%40iglou.com>

> > <bjoyful%40iglou.com>> wrote:> > >> > > > Listen to what he says. When he talks and it's> > > > strange, don't chalk it up to imagination. And

> > > > don't tell him, not to be silly. That is what> > > > causes a lot of the psychic children to stop.> > > >> > > > Ask him questions that are not normal, but start

> > > > with telling him something you can do, that is> > not> > > > consider norm. Something like, " Did you know> > that I> > > > talk to the bees and they listen to me and do

> > what I> > > > ask? Can you tell me something you do? " Don't> > > > press, make a game of it.> > > >> > > > You can make some cards, with pictures on one

> > side.> > > > Don't let him see them, but holding one card up> > at a> > > > time, ask him what it is. Do make the cards> > simple,

> > > > with only one item on it, or it can be> > confusing.> > > >> > > > The thing is, more children are psychic when> > they> > > > are young, but society drums it out of them. The

> > > > thing to do is to encourage it.> > > >> > > > Hope this helps, Honey. Maybe, some of the> > others> > > > have some ideas or knowledge also, that will

> > help,> > > > and would be willing to share with us.> > > >> > > > Love, Joy> > > > [ ] A question> > > >> > > >> > > > Does anyone in the group know how to tell if a 4

> > > > year old is physic?> > >> > > Spiritual freedom is my birthright.> > > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above> > mental

> > > prejudices and stereotypes of others.> > > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can> > manipulate> > > me or deceive me.> > > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and

> > love.> > > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual> > > freedom.> > >> > >> > >> >>

> Spiritual freedom is my birthright.> I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mental> prejudices and stereotypes of others.> I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can manipulate

> me or deceive me.> I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and love.> Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual> freedom.>> >

May 24, 2008

He may be an empath. The itching and pain are not necessary an empath. He could have an health problem.

[ ] A question> > > Does anyone in the group know how to tell if a 4> year old is physic? Spiritual freedom is my birthright. I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mentalprejudices and stereotypes of others. I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can manipulateme or deceive me. I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and love. Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritualfreedom.

May 24, 2008

that is what she is checking on

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:

He may be an empath. The itching and pain are not necessary an empath. He could have an health problem.

[ ] A question> >

> Does anyone in the group know how to tell if a 4> year old is physic? Spiritual freedom is my birthright. I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mentalprejudices and stereotypes of others.

I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can manipulateme or deceive me. I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and love. Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritualfreedom.

May 24, 2008

what does that mean?

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:32 PM, MELVIN JAENSCH <starchildrebelborninutah@...> wrote:

He's an Empath.

Antoinette Hummel <antoinette.hummel@...> wrote: