Re: Lyme, Mono, Scarlet Fever, Stomach Bug

[Guest guest]

Scarlet fever comes from the strep bacteria (I think) and Mono is thought to

be from the Herpes Virus family Once you have EBV your tests will always

show that you had it. But it shouldn't reactivate in your body. Your

immune system keeps it in check...supposedly. Now they think EBV is

responsible for Chronic Fatigue and Fibromyalgia symptoms too. I think the

Lyme Bacteria left untreated knocks down your immune system in a major way,

possibly allowing for some level of reactivation of the EBV or HV6. The

trouble is, we all have had these viruses in our life, it and it's tough to

know what testing results mean from one person to the next. There is no

standard to show how high an antibody count has to be before we know we are

being sick from these viruses again. There are lots of theories out there

about this subject.

Before I was finally diagnosed with Lyme, I was told that I had both Epstein

Barre and Herpes Virus 6 reactivation and that my immune system was

responding big time. Now I know my immune system was active alright, it was

fighting off Lyme, and the HV6 and EBV started to flourish under the

struggle of it all.

My doctor would have been happy to leave it that I had chronic fatigue

because of Epstein Barre and HV6 - which is the virus discovered in brain

lesions of dead MS patients.

It was my allergist who ordered the LUAT and Western Blot, after I asked

about Lyme possibilities.

I think a good Lyme doctor would agree that getting rid of the bacterial

infection allows the body to deal with latent viruses.

Thanks,

Tamara B.

[Guest guest]

Dear Madeline,

Have you ever been tested for H. Pylori Heliobactor infection in your gut?

This can cause lots of stomach and digestive problems and is treated with

antibiotics.

Tamara

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/15/00 10:23:35 AM, 1tab@... writes:

<< This can cause lots of stomach >>

I would also make sure that you have been tested by a PCR blood test sent to

Igenex labs ONLY in Cal for babesiosis. This, too, can be the cause for

stomach problems. Any chills? fevers? night sweats? just a possibility.

sue in nj

[Guest guest]

I'm among those who believe that Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and

Lyme are all the same disease.

Rita B

[Guest guest]

Dear Rita,

I agree that underlying bacterial infections (possibly many different types)

are the cause of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia. I had a friend

who had Chronic Fatigue diagnosed, and wouldn't buy that diagnosis...and

treated herself with some tetracycline after 3 years of struggle. After 3

weeks she felt wonderful, no more fatigue, stomach problems, aching,

etc...an amazing recovery.

My doctor tried to diagnose me with it, but I know too much to accept it as

a diagnosis all it's own...I always believed there was more to my condition

than Chronic Fatigue. There had to be a reason...and in my case it was

Lyme.

I don't think medical science has caught up with these possibilities for the

general population yet. And we women seem to get relegated to the " you're

not sick enough to have Lyme disease " corner. These are my doctor's words

from a year ago. And my health went drastically downhill after that. He

kept saying my life was stressful (it isn't) and that I'm Type A and overdid

it (I'm not and didn't). In fact, I wasn't working at all this year other

than taking care of my family and volunteering at things I enjoy and

consider valuable. I never whined about my condition...I guess I should

have taken that up...maybe then he would have believed that I was really

unwell and needed treatment.

Best regards,

Tamara Bolthouse

[Guest guest]

I agree with you! Kim S.

"AtTheLake." <AtTheLake@...> wrote:

I'm among those who believe that Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome andLyme are all the same disease.Rita B-------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~>eLertsIt's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free!>HAPPY'>1/9699/1/_/484634/_/976991976/-------------------------------------------------------------------->HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!Easy Reference:Send a blank email message to: -Subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email -Unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list -Digestegroups - Switch your subscription to a digest format -Normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normalPlease send messages not related to Lyme disease (this includes humor) to -OfftopicegroupsArchives can be accessed at lyme-aidPlease visit the sister site athttp://clubs./clubs/lymeaidThis is the primary chat site for .HAVE A GREAT DAY,kimsak2000@...

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Before I found out that I had Lyme Disease, I was told I had Fibromyalgia. Then after I was treated with the so called 4 weeks of antibiotics, and I was not better, then I was told I have CFS. Give me a break, It's Lyme. Atleast in my case. I would not be a bit supprised if they found out that CFS and Fibromyalgia were indeed Lyme Disease! Kim S.

Kim Sakowicz <kimsak2000@...> wrote:

I agree with you! Kim S.

"AtTheLake." <AtTheLake@...> wrote:

I'm among those who believe that Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome andLyme are all the same disease.Rita B-------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~>eLertsIt's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free!>HAPPY'>1/9699/1/_/484634/_/976991976/-------------------------------------------------------------------->HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!Easy Reference:Send a blank email message to: -Subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email -Unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list -Digestegroups - Switch your subscription to a digest format -Normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normalPlease send messages not related to Lyme disease (this includes humor) to -OfftopicegroupsArchives can be accessed at lyme-aidPlease visit the sister site athttp://clubs./clubs/lymeaidThis is the primary chat site for .HAVE A GREAT DAY,kimsak2000@...

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Dear--- " Tamara A. Bolthouse " <1tab@...>

> Your information on the relationship between

lyme disease and similar diseases is very

interesting. I found from my m.d. that some of

these diseases are actually originating from

organisms that are the cross between a virus and

a bacterial infection. From the way you write,

it is evident that you have some medical

background or have done a lot of studying. It

seems that we are able to do quite a lot in spite

of Lyme disease, or any other illnesses. And I

know that " human spirit is indominable " if it is

just given a chance. Thank God for Truman

Capote! LaurettaLowell@...

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