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Dear Friends,

Thank you for your input. has also been

on Paxil which was great for his OCD, he had the same

side effects of exhaustion and feeling like he was not

alert at all. I want to express to you all that you

have helped me again realize how difficult this

disorder is for the child and the family. I know I

can be to hard on my son with alot of expectations

especially at school b/c he is bearly getting by. So

this morning I went into his room and kissed him

goodbye before I left for work. I wrote him a note

letting him know how proud I was of him and how much I

love him. I have to remember that he needs to hear

that probably more than being on his case all the

time. From reading all your email, I know that I am

not alone in parenting a child that is every

difficult. again is taking his meds and

feeling better, I just wish he would do his

exposure/response therapy. When he was actively

engaged in this therapy, he was in control of his OCD.

Thanks,

--- Judy Lovchik <jlovchik@...> wrote:

> It does seem to be harder for them to deal with

> their OCD the older they are. The kids that are

> diagnosed younger seem less resistant to treatment.

>

>

> Maybe your son would do better on a different SSRI

> that didn't make him feel like a zombie. Might be

> worth a try.

>

> Judy

> New member

>

>

> Hi,

>

> My name is , and I am the parent of a 16

> year

> old boy,, who has OCD. His OCD is a little

> unusual in that his fear are of things poking him

> in

> the eyes. He normally will cover up is face or

> wear

> things around his face for protection. He also

> covers

> and moves object in our home that disturb him. He

> really has trouble with writing objects so school

> is

> an on going struggle. He absolutely hates school

> and

> it is a trigger for his OCD along with driving a

> car

> and other stresses. He takes 70 mg. of Prozac,

> but he

> feels like a Zombie. He found relief from

> exposure/response therapy. He began feeling

> better

> and then decided to go off meds. Bad ideal. He

> went

> back on meds but is struggling. He is in denial.

> He

> doesn't like me to speak of it b/c he thinks that

> makes it worse. I try to advocate for him at

> school,

> but he does a little as he can to get by. I find

> it

> very difficult to know if I am enabling him or not

> advocating enough for him at school. I know he is

> suffering, but he makes everything so difficult

> with a

> negative attitude. The only thing that keeps him

> in

> school is goal to be in the fishing industry. He

> absolutely loves to fish and is very good at it.

> Do

> any of you have other children that do not want to

> deal with their OCD and try to ignore it?

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Good luck with your decision. We went through a very painful period when my

daughter was very late or missing school. At one point we sent her to a

private school that was at a distance and, in some ways, that compounded the

problem.

She is still late but it is much better than it used to be- she will be

graduating h.s. soon. I hope your daughter improves too!

Mamimiz

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High school can be a big transition for our kids and

us! We found our son to be able to adjust just fine

his freshman year. His big difficulties came his

sophomore year and he is doing much better now, but is

short some credits since he missed so much school last

year. He is a junior now. I guess what ever school you

decide, have some good plans in place for the areas

that will prove rough.

Our kids have so many strengths and it is important to

acknowledge them. That is something I am trying to

improve in my own self. I hope your husband can

continue to support your daughter and incourage with

out alienating her.

Good to hear from you Grace,

Vivian

--- nmlinnen wrote:

> My daughter will be starting highschool in the fall

> and it is kind

> of scary to contemplete the extra demands that may

> be put on her and

> what she can handle. We have a big decision between

> the school that

> I find most suitable (small, private, religious,

> flexible, parent

> run) which is unfortunately a long commute (to

> juggle with 4 other

> younger kids) and the less suitable private

> highschool that seems

> all bureacracy (we have already paid 3 non

> refundable fees, and have

> not even chosen the school yet-we even have to pay a

> fee to apply

> for financial aid!) and to me seems more

> status/wealth oriented, but

> is closer, and where her classmates are going, and

> to which she has

> been accepted.

>

> She has reached a balance in her current school,

> which means to me

> she may not do as well academically in some areas,

> but she does

> better socially and in terms of anxiety, which is a

> great relief

> considering the level of anxiety she had experienced

> previously. I

> believe she has the intelligence to be an A student,

> but the extra

> pressures that she deals with means there is a give

> and take in what

> she attends to and what she lets slide. I think she

> must let some

> things slide for her own sanity. I see it as

> healthy, and she

> obviously is alot healthier now than a year ago.

> This is always a

> point of contention with her dad who does not see

> the big picture,

> imo, and thinks she is not up to potential, and that

> my acceptance

> (I don't go over her report card with a fine tooth

> comb) it thereby

> limiting her progress.

>

> In order to go to the long commute school, we have

> to work seriously

> at reducing her prep time for school in the morning.

> I hope we can

> work on this over the summer. If she could go out of

> the house

> wothout " getting ready " that would be progress. For

> example, on the

> weekend, she showers and dresses in the morning, but

> that doesn't

> count if she wants to go out later, then she has to

> redo most of the

> process, which means washing, changing clothes,

> doing hair, doing

> make-up, etc. This may seem not so unusual for a

> teen, but it is

> very time consuming and there can be no spontaneity.

> Plus, she is so

> afraid of being late (she would not go to school if

> late) that she

> gets up ridiculously early and thus is always tired.

> All of this

> seems relativley mild though, compared to when she

> was having panic

> attacks and mising school, and staying in her room

> all the time.

> Anyway, This " getting ready " scenario will be much

> harder if we have

> a distance to travel and must be out the door much

> earlier. I guess

> the challenges will generally seem to increase with

> age and the

> greater complexity that life takes on.

> nancy grace

>

>

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High school can be a big transition for our kids and

us! We found our son to be able to adjust just fine

his freshman year. His big difficulties came his

sophomore year and he is doing much better now, but is

short some credits since he missed so much school last

year. He is a junior now. I guess what ever school you

decide, have some good plans in place for the areas

that will prove rough.

Our kids have so many strengths and it is important to

acknowledge them. That is something I am trying to

improve in my own self. I hope your husband can

continue to support your daughter and incourage with

out alienating her.

Good to hear from you Grace,

Vivian

--- nmlinnen wrote:

> My daughter will be starting highschool in the fall

> and it is kind

> of scary to contemplete the extra demands that may

> be put on her and

> what she can handle. We have a big decision between

> the school that

> I find most suitable (small, private, religious,

> flexible, parent

> run) which is unfortunately a long commute (to

> juggle with 4 other

> younger kids) and the less suitable private

> highschool that seems

> all bureacracy (we have already paid 3 non

> refundable fees, and have

> not even chosen the school yet-we even have to pay a

> fee to apply

> for financial aid!) and to me seems more

> status/wealth oriented, but

> is closer, and where her classmates are going, and

> to which she has

> been accepted.

>

> She has reached a balance in her current school,

> which means to me

> she may not do as well academically in some areas,

> but she does

> better socially and in terms of anxiety, which is a

> great relief

> considering the level of anxiety she had experienced

> previously. I

> believe she has the intelligence to be an A student,

> but the extra

> pressures that she deals with means there is a give

> and take in what

> she attends to and what she lets slide. I think she

> must let some

> things slide for her own sanity. I see it as

> healthy, and she

> obviously is alot healthier now than a year ago.

> This is always a

> point of contention with her dad who does not see

> the big picture,

> imo, and thinks she is not up to potential, and that

> my acceptance

> (I don't go over her report card with a fine tooth

> comb) it thereby

> limiting her progress.

>

> In order to go to the long commute school, we have

> to work seriously

> at reducing her prep time for school in the morning.

> I hope we can

> work on this over the summer. If she could go out of

> the house

> wothout " getting ready " that would be progress. For

> example, on the

> weekend, she showers and dresses in the morning, but

> that doesn't

> count if she wants to go out later, then she has to

> redo most of the

> process, which means washing, changing clothes,

> doing hair, doing

> make-up, etc. This may seem not so unusual for a

> teen, but it is

> very time consuming and there can be no spontaneity.

> Plus, she is so

> afraid of being late (she would not go to school if

> late) that she

> gets up ridiculously early and thus is always tired.

> All of this

> seems relativley mild though, compared to when she

> was having panic

> attacks and mising school, and staying in her room

> all the time.

> Anyway, This " getting ready " scenario will be much

> harder if we have

> a distance to travel and must be out the door much

> earlier. I guess

> the challenges will generally seem to increase with

> age and the

> greater complexity that life takes on.

> nancy grace

>

>

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Hi ,

It may be really hard to get your daughter out of the house earlier if she

doesn't buy into the school. But,you are absolutely right about kids having

to let some things go academically just to hold the total together and the

smaller more flexible school might be more helpful in that respect. If she

insists on starting at the larger school and runs into trouble, could she

transfer to the smaller school?

After trying a small $$ SPED school for a year after a terrible 2 yrs in

public middle school {my son has other issues in addition to OCD}, we put

him in a small honors program that he was very interested in, in a public

technical high school. He is still having difficulty getting every thing

done even though they've skipped the language class this year to reduce his

load. His dad is still waiting for him to get his act together and become a

regular kid on the honor roll. I'm happy if he has nothing less than a C-.

Lee

>

>Reply-To:

>To:

>Subject: older kids

>Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 16:59:06 -0000

>

>My daughter will be starting highschool in the fall and it is kind

>of scary to contemplete the extra demands that may be put on her and

>what she can handle. We have a big decision between the school that

>I find most suitable (small, private, religious, flexible, parent

>run) which is unfortunately a long commute (to juggle with 4 other

>younger kids) and the less suitable private highschool that seems

>all bureacracy (we have already paid 3 non refundable fees, and have

>not even chosen the school yet-we even have to pay a fee to apply

>for financial aid!) and to me seems more status/wealth oriented, but

>is closer, and where her classmates are going, and to which she has

>been accepted.

>

>She has reached a balance in her current school, which means to me

>she may not do as well academically in some areas, but she does

>better socially and in terms of anxiety, which is a great relief

>considering the level of anxiety she had experienced previously. I

>believe she has the intelligence to be an A student, but the extra

>pressures that she deals with means there is a give and take in what

>she attends to and what she lets slide. I think she must let some

>things slide for her own sanity. I see it as healthy, and she

>obviously is alot healthier now than a year ago. This is always a

>point of contention with her dad who does not see the big picture,

>imo, and thinks she is not up to potential, and that my acceptance

>(I don't go over her report card with a fine tooth comb) it thereby

>limiting her progress.

>

>In order to go to the long commute school, we have to work seriously

>at reducing her prep time for school in the morning. I hope we can

>work on this over the summer. If she could go out of the house

>wothout " getting ready " that would be progress. For example, on the

>weekend, she showers and dresses in the morning, but that doesn't

>count if she wants to go out later, then she has to redo most of the

>process, which means washing, changing clothes, doing hair, doing

>make-up, etc. This may seem not so unusual for a teen, but it is

>very time consuming and there can be no spontaneity. Plus, she is so

>afraid of being late (she would not go to school if late) that she

>gets up ridiculously early and thus is always tired. All of this

>seems relativley mild though, compared to when she was having panic

>attacks and mising school, and staying in her room all the time.

>Anyway, This " getting ready " scenario will be much harder if we have

>a distance to travel and must be out the door much earlier. I guess

>the challenges will generally seem to increase with age and the

>greater complexity that life takes on.

>nancy grace

>

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Hi ,

It may be really hard to get your daughter out of the house earlier if she

doesn't buy into the school. But,you are absolutely right about kids having

to let some things go academically just to hold the total together and the

smaller more flexible school might be more helpful in that respect. If she

insists on starting at the larger school and runs into trouble, could she

transfer to the smaller school?

After trying a small $$ SPED school for a year after a terrible 2 yrs in

public middle school {my son has other issues in addition to OCD}, we put

him in a small honors program that he was very interested in, in a public

technical high school. He is still having difficulty getting every thing

done even though they've skipped the language class this year to reduce his

load. His dad is still waiting for him to get his act together and become a

regular kid on the honor roll. I'm happy if he has nothing less than a C-.

Lee

>

>Reply-To:

>To:

>Subject: older kids

>Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 16:59:06 -0000

>

>My daughter will be starting highschool in the fall and it is kind

>of scary to contemplete the extra demands that may be put on her and

>what she can handle. We have a big decision between the school that

>I find most suitable (small, private, religious, flexible, parent

>run) which is unfortunately a long commute (to juggle with 4 other

>younger kids) and the less suitable private highschool that seems

>all bureacracy (we have already paid 3 non refundable fees, and have

>not even chosen the school yet-we even have to pay a fee to apply

>for financial aid!) and to me seems more status/wealth oriented, but

>is closer, and where her classmates are going, and to which she has

>been accepted.

>

>She has reached a balance in her current school, which means to me

>she may not do as well academically in some areas, but she does

>better socially and in terms of anxiety, which is a great relief

>considering the level of anxiety she had experienced previously. I

>believe she has the intelligence to be an A student, but the extra

>pressures that she deals with means there is a give and take in what

>she attends to and what she lets slide. I think she must let some

>things slide for her own sanity. I see it as healthy, and she

>obviously is alot healthier now than a year ago. This is always a

>point of contention with her dad who does not see the big picture,

>imo, and thinks she is not up to potential, and that my acceptance

>(I don't go over her report card with a fine tooth comb) it thereby

>limiting her progress.

>

>In order to go to the long commute school, we have to work seriously

>at reducing her prep time for school in the morning. I hope we can

>work on this over the summer. If she could go out of the house

>wothout " getting ready " that would be progress. For example, on the

>weekend, she showers and dresses in the morning, but that doesn't

>count if she wants to go out later, then she has to redo most of the

>process, which means washing, changing clothes, doing hair, doing

>make-up, etc. This may seem not so unusual for a teen, but it is

>very time consuming and there can be no spontaneity. Plus, she is so

>afraid of being late (she would not go to school if late) that she

>gets up ridiculously early and thus is always tired. All of this

>seems relativley mild though, compared to when she was having panic

>attacks and mising school, and staying in her room all the time.

>Anyway, This " getting ready " scenario will be much harder if we have

>a distance to travel and must be out the door much earlier. I guess

>the challenges will generally seem to increase with age and the

>greater complexity that life takes on.

>nancy grace

>

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Lee, , Mamimiz, etc. I have 3 older ocd kids.

I couldn't agree with you more about school! My son, Tom(OCD/MDD),

18+, barely attended grade 8, made it through grade 9, then was asked

to leave the first week of grade 10. He eventually enrolled in a

public alternate education program. He studies one subject at a time,

in a room of students learning the same general topic, but each one

working on their individual level and grade. He has maintained his

honor roll average through some horrific years. He is on his last

subject/credit.

One daughter, whose 16,(OCD, environmental depression) is in a

non-semestered high school in grade 10. She has an IEP which allows

her to write in a separte room, receive extended time for

tests/exams, and also does very well.

My youngest, Ziv, is almost 13. She has been obsessing since Sept.

11. She was off meds but the doc put her back on to help her cope at

school. After trying Paxil, she is doing wonderfully on 100mg

clomipramine. The school, a very small private one, is having a very

hard time accomodating her IEP and understanding what OCD is all

about. They keep thinking she's depressed, when she's obsessing, and

have suggested more than once that she's paranoid. In the meantime,

she does her best, we drive her to school, and she tries not to let

her ocd interfere with her social relationships. This has been a very

hard part of her ocd. I tend to show up at the school every now and

then to check things out.

take care everyone, wendy, in canada

---------------------------

Hi ,

It may be really hard to get your daughter out of the house earlier

if she doesn't buy into the school. But,you are absolutely right

about kids having to let some things go academically just to hold the

total together and the smaller more flexible school might be more

helpful in that respect. If she insists on starting at the larger

school and runs into trouble, could she transfer to the smaller

school? After trying a small $$ SPED school for a year after a

terrible 2 yrs in public middle school {my son has other issues in

addition to OCD}, we put him in a small honors program that he was

very interested in, in a public technical high school. He is still

having difficulty getting every thing done even though they've

skipped the language class this year to reduce his load. His dad is

still waiting for him to get his act together and become a regular

kid on the honor roll. I'm happy if he has nothing less than a C-. Lee

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Lee, , Mamimiz, etc. I have 3 older ocd kids.

I couldn't agree with you more about school! My son, Tom(OCD/MDD),

18+, barely attended grade 8, made it through grade 9, then was asked

to leave the first week of grade 10. He eventually enrolled in a

public alternate education program. He studies one subject at a time,

in a room of students learning the same general topic, but each one

working on their individual level and grade. He has maintained his

honor roll average through some horrific years. He is on his last

subject/credit.

One daughter, whose 16,(OCD, environmental depression) is in a

non-semestered high school in grade 10. She has an IEP which allows

her to write in a separte room, receive extended time for

tests/exams, and also does very well.

My youngest, Ziv, is almost 13. She has been obsessing since Sept.

11. She was off meds but the doc put her back on to help her cope at

school. After trying Paxil, she is doing wonderfully on 100mg

clomipramine. The school, a very small private one, is having a very

hard time accomodating her IEP and understanding what OCD is all

about. They keep thinking she's depressed, when she's obsessing, and

have suggested more than once that she's paranoid. In the meantime,

she does her best, we drive her to school, and she tries not to let

her ocd interfere with her social relationships. This has been a very

hard part of her ocd. I tend to show up at the school every now and

then to check things out.

take care everyone, wendy, in canada

---------------------------

Hi ,

It may be really hard to get your daughter out of the house earlier

if she doesn't buy into the school. But,you are absolutely right

about kids having to let some things go academically just to hold the

total together and the smaller more flexible school might be more

helpful in that respect. If she insists on starting at the larger

school and runs into trouble, could she transfer to the smaller

school? After trying a small $$ SPED school for a year after a

terrible 2 yrs in public middle school {my son has other issues in

addition to OCD}, we put him in a small honors program that he was

very interested in, in a public technical high school. He is still

having difficulty getting every thing done even though they've

skipped the language class this year to reduce his load. His dad is

still waiting for him to get his act together and become a regular

kid on the honor roll. I'm happy if he has nothing less than a C-. Lee

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Lee, , Mamimiz, etc. I have 3 older ocd kids.

I couldn't agree with you more about school! My son, Tom(OCD/MDD),

18+, barely attended grade 8, made it through grade 9, then was asked

to leave the first week of grade 10. He eventually enrolled in a

public alternate education program. He studies one subject at a time,

in a room of students learning the same general topic, but each one

working on their individual level and grade. He has maintained his

honor roll average through some horrific years. He is on his last

subject/credit.

One daughter, whose 16,(OCD, environmental depression) is in a

non-semestered high school in grade 10. She has an IEP which allows

her to write in a separte room, receive extended time for

tests/exams, and also does very well.

My youngest, Ziv, is almost 13. She has been obsessing since Sept.

11. She was off meds but the doc put her back on to help her cope at

school. After trying Paxil, she is doing wonderfully on 100mg

clomipramine. The school, a very small private one, is having a very

hard time accomodating her IEP and understanding what OCD is all

about. They keep thinking she's depressed, when she's obsessing, and

have suggested more than once that she's paranoid. In the meantime,

she does her best, we drive her to school, and she tries not to let

her ocd interfere with her social relationships. This has been a very

hard part of her ocd. I tend to show up at the school every now and

then to check things out.

take care everyone, wendy, in canada

---------------------------

Hi ,

It may be really hard to get your daughter out of the house earlier

if she doesn't buy into the school. But,you are absolutely right

about kids having to let some things go academically just to hold the

total together and the smaller more flexible school might be more

helpful in that respect. If she insists on starting at the larger

school and runs into trouble, could she transfer to the smaller

school? After trying a small $$ SPED school for a year after a

terrible 2 yrs in public middle school {my son has other issues in

addition to OCD}, we put him in a small honors program that he was

very interested in, in a public technical high school. He is still

having difficulty getting every thing done even though they've

skipped the language class this year to reduce his load. His dad is

still waiting for him to get his act together and become a regular

kid on the honor roll. I'm happy if he has nothing less than a C-. Lee

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Has anyone had success with biomedical starting when the kids were in their

adolescent years, especially if they had been put on prescription medication for

behavior issues?

Please help me if you can.

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