Re: Nutriveda:another perspective

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Casein and whey are two proteins in cow's milk. Theoretically, you can isolate

the whey and have it be casein-free. I can imagine the risk of contamination is

near-certain in OTC products; the question is if you can tolerate teeny amounts

of casein or not. Plus, not every ASD child is casein free, nor do they need to

be.

I would agree this might not be the best choice in product for a child. I

wouldn't say as much for an adult, except the price is large and the ingredients

many.

FYI: I don't enjoy the SPAM either, but I don't elevate it to Troll status.

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> Along with Micheal, I am growing weary of this product....I see too many

potential problems with it for the price. And it also bugs me that some of these

" great products " are only sold by dealers or reps and those such people appear

with great stories to go along with what they sell. Profit or not, if you are

using it and selling it, you have a vested interested in that product, even if

you claim not to get paid for it.

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> Many people have asked me about it because of what they are hearing on the

apraxia group, so I did an evaluation of it based strictly on the ingredients of

the product not on parents stories or info from the company:

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> 1. This is a very expensive vitamin drink.

> 2. It contains whey protein which is contraindicated for cf children.

> 3. Most of our children are already too thin, and not in need of something

that might make them lose more weight.

> 4. It also contains yeast forms of minerals which are not good for children

with yeast problems.

> 5. It contains a mix of herbs..making it problematic to figure out what your

child might be reacting too.

> 6. It also contains copper, which in contraindicated in mercury poisoning.

> 7. It contains amino acids that might be a problem for some children.  And

this should not be used for high cysteine people. This is why many of us dose

vitamins and minerals and amino's individually or purchase formulas specific for

autism.

> 8. The herb Guggul is for weight loss. 

> 9. The doses of vitamins in this product are low. No where near the levels

most of our children take now.

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> I keep reading it is casein free but how can that be with whey protein in it??

Is there some " new whey protein " that doesn't come from milk that I haven't

heard about? I am cf and last I knew I could not have whey. Whey comes from

cheese which comes from cow's milk.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whey_protein

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> Anyway, whey aside...the copper and yeast minerals would be a definite no no

for me. Copper is often too high in mercury toxic individuals and Andy says to

avoid it.

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> I feel that you can buy a better multivitamin/mineral product with higher

doses for the price. You can purchase real minerals not yeast forms, you can buy

aminos and individual herbs..again all for less money and not be slave to a

distributor to order them. And try out what works and does not work for your

child all while avoiding copper.

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> For those who say it's helping your children, that's fine. In your case, my

analysis doesn't apply to you. You have already been made your decision.

> For those on the fence, seriously reconsider it. If you are here to cure your

child using AC chelation of metal toxicity, then in no way do you want to give

your child something with copper in it. If you are here to address the chronic

yeast infection/systemic candida your child has, then in no way do you want to

give a vitamin drink where most all of the minerals come from yeast. If your

child is casein intolerant or allergic, then you don't want something with whey

in it.

> Don't let desperation make you fall prey to buying something that may not be

the best for your child.

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> And because I found the ingredients to this product so hard to find online I

am posting them.

> Ingredients:

> Vitamin A (retinol palmitate) 2500 IU

> Vitamin B-1 (thiamine mononitrate) 1.5 mg

> Vitamin B-2 (riboflavin) 1.7 mg

> Vitamin B-3 (niacinamide) 20 mg

> Vitamin B-5 (d-ca pantothenate) 10 mg

> Vitamin B-6 (pyridoxine) 2 mg

> Vitamin B-12 (cyanocobalamin) 6 mcg

> Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) 60 mg

> Vitamin D-3 (cholecalciferol) 400 IU

> Vitamin E (d-alpha-tocopherol) 30 IU

> Folic Acid 400 mcg

> Biotin 30 mcg

> Calcium lactate 50 mg

> Potassium Gluconate 67 mg

> Magnesium Oxide 20 mg

> Zinc Gluconate 5 mg

> Copper Gluconate 670 mcg

> Chromium Yeast 120 mcg

> Molybdenum Yeast 75 mcg

> Iodine Yeast 150 mcg

> Selenium Yeast 70 mcg

> Manganese Yeast 2 mg

> Whey Protein Isolate 20 g

> Ingredients: Whey Protein Isolates

> (Amino Acids: Alanine, Arginine, Aspartic Acid, Cystin, Glutamic Acid,Glycine,

Histidine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Lysine, Methionine, Phenylalanine,Proline,

Serine,Thereonine, Trytophan, Tyrosine, Valine), Rice Life powder (Brown Rice),

Natural Cocoa Powder, Apple Fiber,Organic Cane Sugar, Proprietary Ayurvedic

Blend (Guggul,

> Amalaki, Green Tea, Haritaki, Turmeric, Gymnerma, Cayenne

> Pepper), Xanthan Gum, Stevia, L-Taurine, L-Theanine

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> And FYI if you read the Simpsonwood Transcripts there is reference in there to

speech disorders like apraxia from thimerosal exposure in the first three months

of life. Chelate!

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> Again, just my take....no one has to listen to it if they don't want to.

> Jan

> RFA

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> Best Wishes,

> Jan M

> Recovery From Autism Group

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