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ENOUGH OF THIS THREAD! CARRY IT ON PRIVATELY!

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:24 PM, grandma35peg <peg10435@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Grandma replies inside the message--

>

> >

> > Grandma,

> > I'm not an autist. Please don't call me names.

>

> (Grandma says' IMO 'calling' someone an Autist is not as you seem to infer,

> a 'name' of discredit. I suspect many of us have some affectations in us or

> our families already that we've called quirks.. Autists might be offended by

> the placing of the title many prefer as a derogatory title.??)

>

> Do you really want to throw me out of here so I can't find answers to

> finish the job of curing my son?

>

> (Grandma says, IMO, This isn't the point, is it? Your arguing is. You're as

> free as anyone else to find answers -here- ask questions, prescribe to the

> protocol(s), or to even express opinions about certain organizations and

> spokespersons. but the fact remains you've decided to dominate this board

> with vehemence, not dominate with questions or advocate for AC's protocol

> (consistently), for your child or ours. You're going about this in a

> destructive disruptive manner, not helpful to others or your child or your

> self).

> >

> > You should be angry about people like Dr Buttar and GR who engage in

> fraud. That fraud reflects poorly on you. I didn't start any arguments. All

> I did was present information to inform all of about fraud.

>

> (Grandma says; I didn't go back farther in this list to see if someone else

> did start an argument, if that's what you mean. I began with the day I

> posted, looked back thru' 2 pages, then posted. Angry about fraud? Yes...

> but is it fraud or opinions stated by GR and & Jim? As said, I

> disagree with many autism organization's opinions and would welcome

> exposures of fraud, such as big 'Pharma " who I Don't trust either, and whose

> proof of fraud is found on the NVIC website. )

> >

> > There

> 476

> is a lot of frraud in the autism community and that fraud obstructs people

> from finding the right information that they need to cure their children. It

> also prevents money from flowing in the right direction so people can obtain

> the help they need.

> >

> > Fraud should be a great concern to you, Grandma. It's Pharma fraud that

> has us all here. If we can eliminate the fraud, we can prevent more children

> from having their brains mangled by mercury.

> >

> (Grandma says; IMO, this board is still not the place to carry on this way,

> disrupting and dominating a board that isn't about discussing this fight

> against the frauds. I too, post such stuff from time to time but... hope I

> let the boards be themselves for the subjects intended. Feel free to remind

> me anytime I don't do this...such as this replying to the

> detractor...instead of asking questions about cures, therapies, experience

> stories, etc.

>

> Just as an IMO, there are several causes of Autism, or Developmental

> disabilities, not just one... in every case or any one case. Doug Kaufmann

> espouses the theory that overuse of anti-biotics, before or after birth,

> causes the conditions, because they are myco-toxins, (fungus)and in his

> opinion, fugus/yeast is the cause of most everything/illness/condition.

> Autism Speaks think it's genetic first, others think it's environmental

> only, others theorize it's the Schedule and amount of vaccines, others think

> it's only Mercury... The body, being the complex system it is, reacts to

> many influences which may turn out to be different in every child as much as

> the differing of areas affected in each. IMO--IMO--

>

> You do display as an angry autist, autist-that's not a bad word. Often

> other posters have asked me if I am Aspergers because of certain

> characeristics they saw in my posts..said if so, it's undiagnosed but

> possible, given a look back of family traits. No one is perfect.

>

> But it's still a fact that anger has over ruled the good intentions you

> probably have to inform others or even to just reinforce your opinions. Now,

> please, can we get back to the real business of this board??-The AC protocol

> or other bio-and educational source helps? Just IMO, of course. grandma

> peg).

>

>

>

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Natural products and information for healthier families

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Charlottesville, VA 22901

434-984-KIDS (5437)

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Carry yourself on privately. Will you put up a sign in your yard that says

" FLUSHOTS CAUSE AUTSIM " ? If not, why not?

> > >

> > > Grandma,

> > > I'm not an autist. Please don't call me names.

> >

> > (Grandma says' IMO 'calling' someone an Autist is not as you seem to infer,

> > a 'name' of discredit. I suspect many of us have some affectations in us or

> > our families already that we've called quirks.. Autists might be offended by

> > the placing of the title many prefer as a derogatory title.??)

> >

> > Do you really want to throw me out of here so I can't find answers to

> > finish the job of curing my son?

> >

> > (Grandma says, IMO, This isn't the point, is it? Your arguing is. You're as

> > free as anyone else to find answers -here- ask questions, prescribe to the

> > protocol(s), or to even express opinions about certain organizations and

> > spokespersons. but the fact remains you've decided to dominate this board

> > with vehemence, not dominate with questions or advocate for AC's protocol

> > (consistently), for your child or ours. You're going about this in a

> > destructive disruptive manner, not helpful to others or your child or your

> > self).

> > >

> > > You should be angry about people like Dr Buttar and GR who engage in

> > fraud. That fraud reflects poorly on you. I didn't start any arguments. All

> > I did was present information to inform all of about fraud.

> >

> > (Grandma says; I didn't go back farther in this list to see if someone else

> > did start an argument, if that's what you mean. I began with the day I

> > posted, looked back thru' 2 pages, then posted. Angry about fraud? Yes...

> > but is it fraud or opinions stated by GR and & Jim? As said, I

> > disagree with many autism organization's opinions and would welcome

> > exposures of fraud, such as big 'Pharma " who I Don't trust either, and whose

> > proof of fraud is found on the NVIC website. )

> > >

> > > There

> > 476

> > is a lot of frraud in the autism community and that fraud obstructs people

> > from finding the right information that they need to cure their children. It

> > also prevents money from flowing in the right direction so people can obtain

> > the help they need.

> > >

> > > Fraud should be a great concern to you, Grandma. It's Pharma fraud that

> > has us all here. If we can eliminate the fraud, we can prevent more children

> > from having their brains mangled by mercury.

> > >

> > (Grandma says; IMO, this board is still not the place to carry on this way,

> > disrupting and dominating a board that isn't about discussing this fight

> > against the frauds. I too, post such stuff from time to time but... hope I

> > let the boards be themselves for the subjects intended. Feel free to remind

> > me anytime I don't do this...such as this replying to the

> > detractor...instead of asking questions about cures, therapies, experience

> > stories, etc.

> >

> > Just as an IMO, there are several causes of Autism, or Developmental

> > disabilities, not just one... in every case or any one case. Doug Kaufmann

> > espouses the theory that overuse of anti-biotics, before or after birth,

> > causes the conditions, because they are myco-toxins, (fungus)and in his

> > opinion, fugus/yeast is the cause of most everything/illness/condition.

> > Autism Speaks think it's genetic first, others think it's environmental

> > only, others theorize it's the Schedule and amount of vaccines, others think

> > it's only Mercury... The body, being the complex system it is, reacts to

> > many influences which may turn out to be different in every child as much as

> > the differing of areas affected in each. IMO--IMO--

> >

> > You do display as an angry autist, autist-that's not a bad word. Often

> > other posters have asked me if I am Aspergers because of certain

> > characeristics they saw in my posts..said if so, it's undiagnosed but

> > possible, given a look back of family traits. No one is perfect.

> >

> > But it's still a fact that anger has over ruled the good intentions you

> > probably have to inform others or even to just reinforce your opinions. Now,

> > please, can we get back to the real business of this board??-The AC protocol

> > or other bio-and educational source helps? Just IMO, of course. grandma

> > peg).

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> God's blessings in Christ,

> Your Partner in Health,

> N. Rydland, M.D.

> Founder and developer of kidsWellness, Inc.

> Natural products and information for healthier families

> www.kidswellness.com

> www.rydlandjuice.com

>

> Main office:

> 1921 Commonwealth Drive

> Charlottesville, VA 22901

> 434-984-KIDS (5437)

> Fax: 434-984-5439

>

> Other offices:

> 140 N.E. 119 St

> North Miami, FL

>

> 2316 Hollywood Blvd

> Hollywood, Fl 33020

>

> 12595 S.W. 137 Ave, Suite 108

> Miami Fl 33186

>

> 135 San Lorenzo Ave., Suite 640

> Coral Gables, FL 33146

>

>

>

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Grandma,

You're the one being disruptive here, starting arguments and calling me names.

Most autistic people can't read or write. Calling someone autistic IS an insult

and I think you know that. You also know that autism is not genetic. I think

you're just a troll.

> >

> > Grandma,

> > I'm not an autist. Please don't call me names.

>

> (Grandma says' IMO 'calling' someone an Autist is not as you seem to infer, a

'name' of discredit. I suspect many of us have some affectations in us or our

families already that we've called quirks.. Autists might be offended by the

placing of the title many prefer as a derogatory title.??)

>

> Do you really want to throw me out of here so I can't find answers to finish

the job of curing my son?

>

> (Grandma says, IMO, This isn't the point, is it? Your arguing is. You're as

free as anyone else to find answers -here- ask questions, prescribe to the

protocol(s), or to even express opinions about certain organizations and

spokespersons. but the fact remains you've decided to dominate this board with

vehemence, not dominate with questions or advocate for AC's protocol

(consistently), for your child or ours. You're going about this in a destructive

disruptive manner, not helpful to others or your child or your self).

> >

> > You should be angry about people like Dr Buttar and GR who engage in fraud.

That fraud reflects poorly on you. I didn't start any arguments. All I did was

present information to inform all of about fraud.

>

> (Grandma says; I didn't go back farther in this list to see if someone else

did start an argument, if that's what you mean. I began with the day I posted,

looked back thru' 2 pages, then posted. Angry about fraud? Yes... but is it

fraud or opinions stated by GR and & Jim? As said, I disagree with many

autism organization's opinions and would welcome exposures of fraud, such as big

'Pharma " who I Don't trust either, and whose proof of fraud is found on the NVIC

website. )

> >

> > There

> 476

> is a lot of frraud in the autism community and that fraud obstructs people

from finding the right information that they need to cure their children. It

also prevents money from flowing in the right direction so people can obtain the

help they need.

> >

> > Fraud should be a great concern to you, Grandma. It's Pharma fraud that has

us all here. If we can eliminate the fraud, we can prevent more children from

having their brains mangled by mercury.

> >

> (Grandma says; IMO, this board is still not the place to carry on this way,

disrupting and dominating a board that isn't about discussing this fight against

the frauds. I too, post such stuff from time to time but... hope I let the

boards be themselves for the subjects intended. Feel free to remind me anytime I

don't do this...such as this replying to the detractor...instead of asking

questions about cures, therapies, experience stories, etc.

>

> Just as an IMO, there are several causes of Autism, or Developmental

disabilities, not just one... in every case or any one case. Doug Kaufmann

espouses the theory that overuse of anti-biotics, before or after birth, causes

the conditions, because they are myco-toxins, (fungus)and in his opinion,

fugus/yeast is the cause of most everything/illness/condition. Autism Speaks

think it's genetic first, others think it's environmental only, others theorize

it's the Schedule and amount of vaccines, others think it's only Mercury... The

body, being the complex system it is, reacts to many influences which may turn

out to be different in every child as much as the differing of areas affected in

each. IMO--IMO--

>

> You do display as an angry autist, autist-that's not a bad word. Often other

posters have asked me if I am Aspergers because of certain characeristics they

saw in my posts..said if so, it's undiagnosed but possible, given a look back of

family traits. No one is perfect.

>

> But it's still a fact that anger has over ruled the good intentions you

probably have to inform others or even to just reinforce your opinions. Now,

please, can we get back to the real business of this board??-The AC protocol or

other bio-and educational source helps? Just IMO, of course. grandma peg).

>

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MOST AUTISTIC PEOPLE CAN'T READ OR WRITE.

You heard it here first, straight form Mr Best. Must be a new criteria

that will be added to the upcoming DSM V.

And of course NEVER calls other people names.

> > >

> > > Grandma,

> > > I'm not an autist. Please don't call me names.

> >

> > (Grandma says' IMO 'calling' someone an Autist is not as you seem to

infer, a 'name' of discredit. I suspect many of us have some

affectations in us or our families already that we've called quirks..

Autists might be offended by the placing of the title many prefer as a

derogatory title.??)

> >

> > Do you really want to throw me out of here so I can't find answers

to finish the job of curing my son?

> >

> > (Grandma says, IMO, This isn't the point, is it? Your arguing is.

You're as free as anyone else to find answers -here- ask questions,

prescribe to the protocol(s), or to even express opinions about certain

organizations and spokespersons. but the fact remains you've decided to

dominate this board with vehemence, not dominate with questions or

advocate for AC's protocol (consistently), for your child or ours.

You're going about this in a destructive disruptive manner, not helpful

to others or your child or your self).

> > >

> > > You should be angry about people like Dr Buttar and GR who engage

in fraud. That fraud reflects poorly on you. I didn't start any

arguments. All I did was present information to inform all of about

fraud.

> >

> > (Grandma says; I didn't go back farther in this list to see if

someone else did start an argument, if that's what you mean. I began

with the day I posted, looked back thru' 2 pages, then posted. Angry

about fraud? Yes... but is it fraud or opinions stated by GR and &

Jim? As said, I disagree with many autism organization's opinions and

would welcome exposures of fraud, such as big 'Pharma " who I Don't trust

either, and whose proof of fraud is found on the NVIC website. )

> > >

> > > There

> > 476

> > is a lot of frraud in the autism community and that fraud obstructs

people from finding the right information that they need to cure their

children. It also prevents money from flowing in the right direction so

people can obtain the help they need.

> > >

> > > Fraud should be a great concern to you, Grandma. It's Pharma fraud

that has us all here. If we can eliminate the fraud, we can prevent more

children from having their brains mangled by mercury.

> > >

> > (Grandma says; IMO, this board is still not the place to carry on

this way, disrupting and dominating a board that isn't about discussing

this fight against the frauds. I too, post such stuff from time to time

but... hope I let the boards be themselves for the subjects intended.

Feel free to remind me anytime I don't do this...such as this replying

to the detractor...instead of asking questions about cures, therapies,

experience stories, etc.

> >

> > Just as an IMO, there are several causes of Autism, or Developmental

disabilities, not just one... in every case or any one case. Doug

Kaufmann espouses the theory that overuse of anti-biotics, before or

after birth, causes the conditions, because they are myco-toxins,

(fungus)and in his opinion, fugus/yeast is the cause of most

everything/illness/condition. Autism Speaks think it's genetic first,

others think it's environmental only, others theorize it's the Schedule

and amount of vaccines, others think it's only Mercury... The body,

being the complex system it is, reacts to many influences which may turn

out to be different in every child as much as the differing of areas

affected in each. IMO--IMO--

> >

> > You do display as an angry autist, autist-that's not a bad word.

Often other posters have asked me if I am Aspergers because of certain

characeristics they saw in my posts..said if so, it's undiagnosed but

possible, given a look back of family traits. No one is perfect.

> >

> > But it's still a fact that anger has over ruled the good intentions

you probably have to inform others or even to just reinforce your

opinions. Now, please, can we get back to the real business of this

board??-The AC protocol or other bio-and educational source helps? Just

IMO, of course. grandma peg).

> >

>

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Rick, If they could read and write, they'd explain to you that millions of

signs in peoples' front yards would deliver the message of how Pharma poisoned

them. Since they can't do that, I'm here to do it for them. My son hopes

you'll shut up now and stop getting in the way of grass roots activism that can

beat Pharma. Sam thinks that people like you probably complained about peace

signs being all over the place when intelligent folks were trying to end the

Viet Nam war.

> > > >

> > > > Grandma,

> > > > I'm not an autist. Please don't call me names.

> > >

> > > (Grandma says' IMO 'calling' someone an Autist is not as you seem to

> infer, a 'name' of discredit. I suspect many of us have some

> affectations in us or our families already that we've called quirks..

> Autists might be offended by the placing of the title many prefer as a

> derogatory title.??)

> > >

> > > Do you really want to throw me out of here so I can't find answers

> to finish the job of curing my son?

> > >

> > > (Grandma says, IMO, This isn't the point, is it? Your arguing is.

> You're as free as anyone else to find answers -here- ask questions,

> prescribe to the protocol(s), or to even express opinions about certain

> organizations and spokespersons. but the fact remains you've decided to

> dominate this board with vehemence, not dominate with questions or

> advocate for AC's protocol (consistently), for your child or ours.

> You're going about this in a destructive disruptive manner, not helpful

> to others or your child or your self).

> > > >

> > > > You should be angry about people like Dr Buttar and GR who engage

> in fraud. That fraud reflects poorly on you. I didn't start any

> arguments. All I did was present information to inform all of about

> fraud.

> > >

> > > (Grandma says; I didn't go back farther in this list to see if

> someone else did start an argument, if that's what you mean. I began

> with the day I posted, looked back thru' 2 pages, then posted. Angry

> about fraud? Yes... but is it fraud or opinions stated by GR and &

> Jim? As said, I disagree with many autism organization's opinions and

> would welcome exposures of fraud, such as big 'Pharma " who I Don't trust

> either, and whose proof of fraud is found on the NVIC website. )

> > > >

> > > > There

> > > 476

> > > is a lot of frraud in the autism community and that fraud obstructs

> people from finding the right information that they need to cure their

> children. It also prevents money from flowing in the right direction so

> people can obtain the help they need.

> > > >

> > > > Fraud should be a great concern to you, Grandma. It's Pharma fraud

> that has us all here. If we can eliminate the fraud, we can prevent more

> children from having their brains mangled by mercury.

> > > >

> > > (Grandma says; IMO, this board is still not the place to carry on

> this way, disrupting and dominating a board that isn't about discussing

> this fight against the frauds. I too, post such stuff from time to time

> but... hope I let the boards be themselves for the subjects intended.

> Feel free to remind me anytime I don't do this...such as this replying

> to the detractor...instead of asking questions about cures, therapies,

> experience stories, etc.

> > >

> > > Just as an IMO, there are several causes of Autism, or Developmental

> disabilities, not just one... in every case or any one case. Doug

> Kaufmann espouses the theory that overuse of anti-biotics, before or

> after birth, causes the conditions, because they are myco-toxins,

> (fungus)and in his opinion, fugus/yeast is the cause of most

> everything/illness/condition. Autism Speaks think it's genetic first,

> others think it's environmental only, others theorize it's the Schedule

> and amount of vaccines, others think it's only Mercury... The body,

> being the complex system it is, reacts to many influences which may turn

> out to be different in every child as much as the differing of areas

> affected in each. IMO--IMO--

> > >

> > > You do display as an angry autist, autist-that's not a bad word.

> Often other posters have asked me if I am Aspergers because of certain

> characeristics they saw in my posts..said if so, it's undiagnosed but

> possible, given a look back of family traits. No one is perfect.

> > >

> > > But it's still a fact that anger has over ruled the good intentions

> you probably have to inform others or even to just reinforce your

> opinions. Now, please, can we get back to the real business of this

> board??-The AC protocol or other bio-and educational source helps? Just

> IMO, of course. grandma peg).

> > >

> >

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You stated that most people with autism can't read and write. You know this as a

fact? And you have a reference source for this? Stats from the US Department of

Education, Autism Society of America, some other source? OR just the MIND OF

JOHN?

Intelligent people thought the way to end the Viet Nam war was to WIN it, not to

just quit and go home.

Did you ever read about the " EXIT STRATEGY " for World War II? It consisted of

one idea. Kick the German and Japanese asses to the curb until they agreed to

unconditional surrender.

> > > > >

> > > > > Grandma,

> > > > > I'm not an autist. Please don't call me names.

> > > >

> > > > (Grandma says' IMO 'calling' someone an Autist is not as you seem to

> > infer, a 'name' of discredit. I suspect many of us have some

> > affectations in us or our families already that we've called quirks..

> > Autists might be offended by the placing of the title many prefer as a

> > derogatory title.??)

> > > >

> > > > Do you really want to throw me out of here so I can't find answers

> > to finish the job of curing my son?

> > > >

> > > > (Grandma says, IMO, This isn't the point, is it? Your arguing is.

> > You're as free as anyone else to find answers -here- ask questions,

> > prescribe to the protocol(s), or to even express opinions about certain

> > organizations and spokespersons. but the fact remains you've decided to

> > dominate this board with vehemence, not dominate with questions or

> > advocate for AC's protocol (consistently), for your child or ours.

> > You're going about this in a destructive disruptive manner, not helpful

> > to others or your child or your self).

> > > > >

> > > > > You should be angry about people like Dr Buttar and GR who engage

> > in fraud. That fraud reflects poorly on you. I didn't start any

> > arguments. All I did was present information to inform all of about

> > fraud.

> > > >

> > > > (Grandma says; I didn't go back farther in this list to see if

> > someone else did start an argument, if that's what you mean. I began

> > with the day I posted, looked back thru' 2 pages, then posted. Angry

> > about fraud? Yes... but is it fraud or opinions stated by GR and &

> > Jim? As said, I disagree with many autism organization's opinions and

> > would welcome exposures of fraud, such as big 'Pharma " who I Don't trust

> > either, and whose proof of fraud is found on the NVIC website. )

> > > > >

> > > > > There

> > > > 476

> > > > is a lot of frraud in the autism community and that fraud obstructs

> > people from finding the right information that they need to cure their

> > children. It also prevents money from flowing in the right direction so

> > people can obtain the help they need.

> > > > >

> > > > > Fraud should be a great concern to you, Grandma. It's Pharma fraud

> > that has us all here. If we can eliminate the fraud, we can prevent more

> > children from having their brains mangled by mercury.

> > > > >

> > > > (Grandma says; IMO, this board is still not the place to carry on

> > this way, disrupting and dominating a board that isn't about discussing

> > this fight against the frauds. I too, post such stuff from time to time

> > but... hope I let the boards be themselves for the subjects intended.

> > Feel free to remind me anytime I don't do this...such as this replying

> > to the detractor...instead of asking questions about cures, therapies,

> > experience stories, etc.

> > > >

> > > > Just as an IMO, there are several causes of Autism, or Developmental

> > disabilities, not just one... in every case or any one case. Doug

> > Kaufmann espouses the theory that overuse of anti-biotics, before or

> > after birth, causes the conditions, because they are myco-toxins,

> > (fungus)and in his opinion, fugus/yeast is the cause of most

> > everything/illness/condition. Autism Speaks think it's genetic first,

> > others think it's environmental only, others theorize it's the Schedule

> > and amount of vaccines, others think it's only Mercury... The body,

> > being the complex system it is, reacts to many influences which may turn

> > out to be different in every child as much as the differing of areas

> > affected in each. IMO--IMO--

> > > >

> > > > You do display as an angry autist, autist-that's not a bad word.

> > Often other posters have asked me if I am Aspergers because of certain

> > characeristics they saw in my posts..said if so, it's undiagnosed but

> > possible, given a look back of family traits. No one is perfect.

> > > >

> > > > But it's still a fact that anger has over ruled the good intentions

> > you probably have to inform others or even to just reinforce your

> > opinions. Now, please, can we get back to the real business of this

> > board??-The AC protocol or other bio-and educational source helps? Just

> > IMO, of course. grandma peg).

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Rick, Thanks for doing your part by being a soldier during Viet Nam. Our

country is grateful that you stayed in the country peeling potatoes and cleaning

latrines. Outstanding job, son.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Grandma,

> > > > > > I'm not an autist. Please don't call me names.

> > > > >

> > > > > (Grandma says' IMO 'calling' someone an Autist is not as you seem to

> > > infer, a 'name' of discredit. I suspect many of us have some

> > > affectations in us or our families already that we've called quirks..

> > > Autists might be offended by the placing of the title many prefer as a

> > > derogatory title.??)

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you really want to throw me out of here so I can't find answers

> > > to finish the job of curing my son?

> > > > >

> > > > > (Grandma says, IMO, This isn't the point, is it? Your arguing is.

> > > You're as free as anyone else to find answers -here- ask questions,

> > > prescribe to the protocol(s), or to even express opinions about certain

> > > organizations and spokespersons. but the fact remains you've decided to

> > > dominate this board with vehemence, not dominate with questions or

> > > advocate for AC's protocol (consistently), for your child or ours.

> > > You're going about this in a destructive disruptive manner, not helpful

> > > to others or your child or your self).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You should be angry about people like Dr Buttar and GR who engage

> > > in fraud. That fraud reflects poorly on you. I didn't start any

> > > arguments. All I did was present information to inform all of about

> > > fraud.

> > > > >

> > > > > (Grandma says; I didn't go back farther in this list to see if

> > > someone else did start an argument, if that's what you mean. I began

> > > with the day I posted, looked back thru' 2 pages, then posted. Angry

> > > about fraud? Yes... but is it fraud or opinions stated by GR and &

> > > Jim? As said, I disagree with many autism organization's opinions and

> > > would welcome exposures of fraud, such as big 'Pharma " who I Don't trust

> > > either, and whose proof of fraud is found on the NVIC website. )

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There

> > > > > 476

> > > > > is a lot of frraud in the autism community and that fraud obstructs

> > > people from finding the right information that they need to cure their

> > > children. It also prevents money from flowing in the right direction so

> > > people can obtain the help they need.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Fraud should be a great concern to you, Grandma. It's Pharma fraud

> > > that has us all here. If we can eliminate the fraud, we can prevent more

> > > children from having their brains mangled by mercury.

> > > > > >

> > > > > (Grandma says; IMO, this board is still not the place to carry on

> > > this way, disrupting and dominating a board that isn't about discussing

> > > this fight against the frauds. I too, post such stuff from time to time

> > > but... hope I let the boards be themselves for the subjects intended.

> > > Feel free to remind me anytime I don't do this...such as this replying

> > > to the detractor...instead of asking questions about cures, therapies,

> > > experience stories, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just as an IMO, there are several causes of Autism, or Developmental

> > > disabilities, not just one... in every case or any one case. Doug

> > > Kaufmann espouses the theory that overuse of anti-biotics, before or

> > > after birth, causes the conditions, because they are myco-toxins,

> > > (fungus)and in his opinion, fugus/yeast is the cause of most

> > > everything/illness/condition. Autism Speaks think it's genetic first,

> > > others think it's environmental only, others theorize it's the Schedule

> > > and amount of vaccines, others think it's only Mercury... The body,

> > > being the complex system it is, reacts to many influences which may turn

> > > out to be different in every child as much as the differing of areas

> > > affected in each. IMO--IMO--

> > > > >

> > > > > You do display as an angry autist, autist-that's not a bad word.

> > > Often other posters have asked me if I am Aspergers because of certain

> > > characeristics they saw in my posts..said if so, it's undiagnosed but

> > > possible, given a look back of family traits. No one is perfect.

> > > > >

> > > > > But it's still a fact that anger has over ruled the good intentions

> > > you probably have to inform others or even to just reinforce your

> > > opinions. Now, please, can we get back to the real business of this

> > > board??-The AC protocol or other bio-and educational source helps? Just

> > > IMO, of course. grandma peg).

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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,

While I don't disagree with you about " Pig-Pharma " (tm,pat.pend)you may

want to look up the term " Net Kook " and reflect how some may apply that

term to you. Also, there are other organizations out there that claim

to be fighting to help our children but are really helping themselves.

I'm quite sure your smart enough to figure out who they are, why no

mouth spittle flying in their direction?

> > > > >

> > > > > Grandma,

> > > > > I'm not an autist. Please don't call me names.

> > > >

> > > > (Grandma says' IMO 'calling' someone an Autist is not as you

seem to

> > infer, a 'name' of discredit. I suspect many of us have some

> > affectations in us or our families already that we've called

quirks..

> > Autists might be offended by the placing of the title many prefer as

a

> > derogatory title.??)

> > > >

> > > > Do you really want to throw me out of here so I can't find

answers

> > to finish the job of curing my son?

> > > >

> > > > (Grandma says, IMO, This isn't the point, is it? Your arguing

is.

> > You're as free as anyone else to find answers -here- ask questions,

> > prescribe to the protocol(s), or to even express opinions about

certain

> > organizations and spokespersons. but the fact remains you've decided

to

> > dominate this board with vehemence, not dominate with questions or

> > advocate for AC's protocol (consistently), for your child or ours.

> > You're going about this in a destructive disruptive manner, not

helpful

> > to others or your child or your self).

> > > > >

> > > > > You should be angry about people like Dr Buttar and GR who

engage

> > in fraud. That fraud reflects poorly on you. I didn't start any

> > arguments. All I did was present information to inform all of about

> > fraud.

> > > >

> > > > (Grandma says; I didn't go back farther in this list to see if

> > someone else did start an argument, if that's what you mean. I began

> > with the day I posted, looked back thru' 2 pages, then posted. Angry

> > about fraud? Yes... but is it fraud or opinions stated by GR and

&

> > Jim? As said, I disagree with many autism organization's opinions

and

> > would welcome exposures of fraud, such as big 'Pharma " who I Don't

trust

> > either, and whose proof of fraud is found on the NVIC website. )

> > > > >

> > > > > There

> > > > 476

> > > > is a lot of frraud in the autism community and that fraud

obstructs

> > people from finding the right information that they need to cure

their

> > children. It also prevents money from flowing in the right direction

so

> > people can obtain the help they need.

> > > > >

> > > > > Fraud should be a great concern to you, Grandma. It's Pharma

fraud

> > that has us all here. If we can eliminate the fraud, we can prevent

more

> > children from having their brains mangled by mercury.

> > > > >

> > > > (Grandma says; IMO, this board is still not the place to carry

on

> > this way, disrupting and dominating a board that isn't about

discussing

> > this fight against the frauds. I too, post such stuff from time to

time

> > but... hope I let the boards be themselves for the subjects

intended.

> > Feel free to remind me anytime I don't do this...such as this

replying

> > to the detractor...instead of asking questions about cures,

therapies,

> > experience stories, etc.

> > > >

> > > > Just as an IMO, there are several causes of Autism, or

Developmental

> > disabilities, not just one... in every case or any one case. Doug

> > Kaufmann espouses the theory that overuse of anti-biotics, before or

> > after birth, causes the conditions, because they are myco-toxins,

> > (fungus)and in his opinion, fugus/yeast is the cause of most

> > everything/illness/condition. Autism Speaks think it's genetic

first,

> > others think it's environmental only, others theorize it's the

Schedule

> > and amount of vaccines, others think it's only Mercury... The body,

> > being the complex system it is, reacts to many influences which may

turn

> > out to be different in every child as much as the differing of areas

> > affected in each. IMO--IMO--

> > > >

> > > > You do display as an angry autist, autist-that's not a bad word.

> > Often other posters have asked me if I am Aspergers because of

certain

> > characeristics they saw in my posts..said if so, it's undiagnosed

but

> > possible, given a look back of family traits. No one is perfect.

> > > >

> > > > But it's still a fact that anger has over ruled the good

intentions

> > you probably have to inform others or even to just reinforce your

> > opinions. Now, please, can we get back to the real business of this

> > board??-The AC protocol or other bio-and educational source helps?

Just

> > IMO, of course. grandma peg).

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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,

It's true, people who can't respond to my criticism of them resort to calling me

names. I'm used to that.

I've written about the dishonesty and corruption of Autism Speaks many times. I

think I did a good job exposing the dishonesty of Neurodiversity and they

honored me by forbidding any of their bloggers from even mentioning my name.

There's a serious lack of learning from history on our side if it's not

psychological warfare. After all, I can only guess at why people who pretend to

be leaders take idiotic and useless actions. It's hard to believe that anyone

who graduated from college can actually be stupid enough to think corrupt

politicians will ever do the right thing.

So, if we tried to let that go and move forward with some positive action, will

you tell me if you think asking every parent of an autistic child to put up

mini-billboards on their front lawns to spread the message of how babies are

poisoned is a worthwhile action that can affect public opinion enough to vote

some of us into office to replace the corrupt politicians?

I see our choices as either beating them at their own game or resorting to

terrorism and blowing up all the thimerosal plants. We know the criminals are

not suddenly going to become honest. Which option would you choose? Can you

suggest other options?

jb

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Grandma,

> > > > > > I'm not an autist. Please don't call me names.

> > > > >

> > > > > (Grandma says' IMO 'calling' someone an Autist is not as you

> seem to

> > > infer, a 'name' of discredit. I suspect many of us have some

> > > affectations in us or our families already that we've called

> quirks..

> > > Autists might be offended by the placing of the title many prefer as

> a

> > > derogatory title.??)

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you really want to throw me out of here so I can't find

> answers

> > > to finish the job of curing my son?

> > > > >

> > > > > (Grandma says, IMO, This isn't the point, is it? Your arguing

> is.

> > > You're as free as anyone else to find answers -here- ask questions,

> > > prescribe to the protocol(s), or to even express opinions about

> certain

> > > organizations and spokespersons. but the fact remains you've decided

> to

> > > dominate this board with vehemence, not dominate with questions or

> > > advocate for AC's protocol (consistently), for your child or ours.

> > > You're going about this in a destructive disruptive manner, not

> helpful

> > > to others or your child or your self).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You should be angry about people like Dr Buttar and GR who

> engage

> > > in fraud. That fraud reflects poorly on you. I didn't start any

> > > arguments. All I did was present information to inform all of about

> > > fraud.

> > > > >

> > > > > (Grandma says; I didn't go back farther in this list to see if

> > > someone else did start an argument, if that's what you mean. I began

> > > with the day I posted, looked back thru' 2 pages, then posted. Angry

> > > about fraud? Yes... but is it fraud or opinions stated by GR and

> &

> > > Jim? As said, I disagree with many autism organization's opinions

> and

> > > would welcome exposures of fraud, such as big 'Pharma " who I Don't

> trust

> > > either, and whose proof of fraud is found on the NVIC website. )

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There

> > > > > 476

> > > > > is a lot of frraud in the autism community and that fraud

> obstructs

> > > people from finding the right information that they need to cure

> their

> > > children. It also prevents money from flowing in the right direction

> so

> > > people can obtain the help they need.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Fraud should be a great concern to you, Grandma. It's Pharma

> fraud

> > > that has us all here. If we can eliminate the fraud, we can prevent

> more

> > > children from having their brains mangled by mercury.

> > > > > >

> > > > > (Grandma says; IMO, this board is still not the place to carry

> on

> > > this way, disrupting and dominating a board that isn't about

> discussing

> > > this fight against the frauds. I too, post such stuff from time to

> time

> > > but... hope I let the boards be themselves for the subjects

> intended.

> > > Feel free to remind me anytime I don't do this...such as this

> replying

> > > to the detractor...instead of asking questions about cures,

> therapies,

> > > experience stories, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just as an IMO, there are several causes of Autism, or

> Developmental

> > > disabilities, not just one... in every case or any one case. Doug

> > > Kaufmann espouses the theory that overuse of anti-biotics, before or

> > > after birth, causes the conditions, because they are myco-toxins,

> > > (fungus)and in his opinion, fugus/yeast is the cause of most

> > > everything/illness/condition. Autism Speaks think it's genetic

> first,

> > > others think it's environmental only, others theorize it's the

> Schedule

> > > and amount of vaccines, others think it's only Mercury... The body,

> > > being the complex system it is, reacts to many influences which may

> turn

> > > out to be different in every child as much as the differing of areas

> > > affected in each. IMO--IMO--

> > > > >

> > > > > You do display as an angry autist, autist-that's not a bad word.

> > > Often other posters have asked me if I am Aspergers because of

> certain

> > > characeristics they saw in my posts..said if so, it's undiagnosed

> but

> > > possible, given a look back of family traits. No one is perfect.

> > > > >

> > > > > But it's still a fact that anger has over ruled the good

> intentions

> > > you probably have to inform others or even to just reinforce your

> > > opinions. Now, please, can we get back to the real business of this

> > > board??-The AC protocol or other bio-and educational source helps?

> Just

> > > IMO, of course. grandma peg).

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

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