Re: What to do if a child shows signs of bone demineralization after CaEDTA iv chelation?

[Guest guest]

Be sure that the child has sufficient vitamin D3 and K2.

Anita

>

> One of our little friends has been intensively chelated w IV Ca EDTA/GH (ca.40

pushes in 1.5 yrs) he made a huge developmental/cognitive leap, (is now fully

verbal, drawing, writing, painting) BUT he now shows signs of bone

demineralization: ALL bones squeek, poor flexibility, hip bone and knees hurt,

teeth look in bad shape.......parents are building up mineral intake, still, l

don't know if such damage can be reverted. Opinions, comments, experiences will

be very welcome.

> TIA

> Isa

> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

>

[Guest guest]

One of the things to remember is that the much of the body's structure and

mechanisms are governed by water and salt. If we do not have enough salt

(as in healthy salt like sea salt) our bones begin to soften and we lose the

minerals from the bone. The reason why, I am quoting below from an awesome

book, " Your Body's Many Cries for Water " by Dr. F. Batmaghelidj.

" Salt is a most essential ingredient of the body. In their order of

importance, oxygen water, salt, and potassium rank as the primary elements

for the survival of the human body. ...about 27% of the salt content in the

body is stored in the bones in the form of crystals. It is said that salt

crystals are naturally used to make bones hard...thus salt deficiency in the

body could be responsible for the development of osteoporosis. Salt will be

taken out of the bones to maintain normal levels in the blood. Low salt

intake will contribute to a build up of acidity in some cells. High acidity

in the cell can damage the DNA structure of and be the initiating mechanism

for cancer formation in some cells. Experiments have shown that quite a

number of cancer patients show low salt in their body. "

He further recommends a 1/4 tsp of sea salt per liter of water consumed. He

recommends continuous hydration with water throughout the day to keep the

body from having to overcompensate.

Now I don't know your child's complete health situation. I don't know who

is managing it. Is the child able to take in water...are they showing any

signs of kidney issues? If they are healthy in that respect then it might

be wise to consider a pure unprocessed sea salt to be added to their diet

and regular intake of water....water is one of the keys to reducing the acid

in their bodies ...also becoming familiar with acid forming foods versus

alkaline foods is good to be aware of... Many health professionals recommend

trying to eat 80% alkaline versus 20% acidic to be at your most healthiest

state...that's kind of hard to do in the real world..but you can try leaning

the child's diet that direction...

I hope that may help you a bit in understanding the physiology of what may

be happening... Blessings!

-- [ ] Re: What to do if a child shows signs of bone

demineralization after CaEDTA iv chelation?

Be sure that the child has sufficient vitamin D3 and K2.

Anita

>

> One of our little friends has been intensively chelated w IV Ca EDTA/GH

(ca.40 pushes in 1.5 yrs) he made a huge developmental/cognitive leap, (is

now fully verbal, drawing, writing, painting) BUT he now shows signs of bone

demineralization: ALL bones squeek, poor flexibility, hip bone and knees

hurt, teeth look in bad shape.......parents are building up mineral intake,

still, l don't know if such damage can be reverted. Opinions, comments,

experiences will be very welcome.

> TIA

> Isa

> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

>

[Guest guest]

This is one of the very reasons we say NOT to do EDTA chelation. It pulls

minerals. Using dmsa or ala would have prevented this.

He's going to need LOTS of minerals, IF it can be corrected.

Calcium, D and K. Maybe a supplement like Bone Up by Jarrow.

Sorry to hear this happened to him. If they had known about safe chelation it

could have been avoided.

Jan

>

> One of our little friends has been intensively chelated w IV Ca EDTA/GH (ca.40

pushes in 1.5 yrs) he made a huge developmental/cognitive leap, (is now fully

verbal, drawing, writing, painting) BUT he now shows signs of bone

demineralization: ALL bones squeek, poor flexibility, hip bone and knees hurt,

teeth look in bad shape.......parents are building up mineral intake, still, l

don't know if such damage can be reverted. Opinions, comments, experiences will

be very welcome.

> TIA

> Isa

> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

>

[Guest guest]

I Find Calcium Orotate the most effective for calcium reabsorption..

probably want to add some vita A, Mg & Bo to the Ca, D and K too (K2).. no

pun intended..

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On Behalf Of Jan

Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 10:55 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: What to do if a child shows signs of bone

demineralization after CaEDTA iv chelation?

This is one of the very reasons we say NOT to do EDTA chelation. It pulls

minerals. Using dmsa or ala would have prevented this.

He's going to need LOTS of minerals, IF it can be corrected.

Calcium, D and K. Maybe a supplement like Bone Up by Jarrow.

Sorry to hear this happened to him. If they had known about safe chelation

it could have been avoided.

Jan

>

> One of our little friends has been intensively chelated w IV Ca EDTA/GH

(ca.40 pushes in 1.5 yrs) he made a huge developmental/cognitive leap, (is

now fully verbal, drawing, writing, painting) BUT he now shows signs of bone

demineralization: ALL bones squeek, poor flexibility, hip bone and knees

hurt, teeth look in bad shape.......parents are building up mineral intake,

still, l don't know if such damage can be reverted. Opinions, comments,

experiences will be very welcome.

> TIA

> Isa

> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

>

[Guest guest]

[ ] Re: What to do if a child shows signs of bone

demineralization after CaEDTA iv chelation?

This is one of the very reasons we say NOT to do EDTA chelation. It pulls

minerals. Using dmsa or ala would have prevented this.

He's going to need LOTS of minerals, IF it can be corrected.

Calcium, D and K. Maybe a supplement like Bone Up by Jarrow.

Sorry to hear this happened to him. If they had known about safe chelation

it could have been avoided.

Jan

>

> One of our little friends has been intensively chelated w IV Ca EDTA/GH

(ca.40 pushes in 1.5 yrs) he made a huge developmental/cognitive leap, (is

now fully verbal, drawing, writing, painting) BUT he now shows signs of bone

demineralization: ALL bones squeek, poor flexibility, hip bone and knees

hurt, teeth look in bad shape.......parents are building up mineral intake,

still, l don't know if such damage can be reverted. Opinions, comments,

experiences will be very welcome.

> TIA

> Isa

> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

>

[Guest guest]

Am seeing some calcium absorption issues here...even with k and d and

magnesium...we are using calcium glycinate....is the Calcium bisglycinate

better?? Not sure why we are having this issue..they are also taking zinc and a

multi with lots of A...

Ronni

> >

> > One of our little friends has been intensively chelated w IV Ca EDTA/GH

> (ca.40 pushes in 1.5 yrs) he made a huge developmental/cognitive leap, (is

> now fully verbal, drawing, writing, painting) BUT he now shows signs of bone

> demineralization: ALL bones squeek, poor flexibility, hip bone and knees

> hurt, teeth look in bad shape.......parents are building up mineral intake,

> still, l don't know if such damage can be reverted. Opinions, comments,

> experiences will be very welcome.

> > TIA

> > Isa

> > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Its my understanding that orotate is better that bisglycinate.

Dr. Spreen says that the best absorbed of the commercially available types

are calcium orotate (90 to 95 percent absorbed), closely followed by calcium

aspartate (85 percent absorbed). However, he points out that, 'these are not

only the most expensive, but they're also the hardest to find. That means

they may not be an option for many people.

http://www.osteopenia3.com/Calcium-Bisglycinate.html

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On Behalf Of ronnimike

Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:10 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: What to do if a child shows signs of bone

demineralization after CaEDTA iv chelation?

Am seeing some calcium absorption issues here...even with k and d and

magnesium...we are using calcium glycinate....is the Calcium bisglycinate

better?? Not sure why we are having this issue..they are also taking zinc

and a multi with lots of A...

Ronni

> >

> > One of our little friends has been intensively chelated w IV Ca EDTA/GH

> (ca.40 pushes in 1.5 yrs) he made a huge developmental/cognitive leap, (is

> now fully verbal, drawing, writing, painting) BUT he now shows signs of

bone

> demineralization: ALL bones squeek, poor flexibility, hip bone and knees

> hurt, teeth look in bad shape.......parents are building up mineral

intake,

> still, l don't know if such damage can be reverted. Opinions, comments,

> experiences will be very welcome.

> > TIA

> > Isa

> > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

[ ] Re: What to do if a child shows signs of bone

demineralization after CaEDTA iv chelation?

Am seeing some calcium absorption issues here...even with k and d and

magnesium...we are using calcium glycinate....is the Calcium bisglycinate

better?? Not sure why we are having this issue..they are also taking zinc

and a multi with lots of A...

Ronni

> >

> > One of our little friends has been intensively chelated w IV Ca EDTA/GH

> (ca.40 pushes in 1.5 yrs) he made a huge developmental/cognitive leap, (is

> now fully verbal, drawing, writing, painting) BUT he now shows signs of

bone

> demineralization: ALL bones squeek, poor flexibility, hip bone and knees

> hurt, teeth look in bad shape.......parents are building up mineral

intake,

> still, l don't know if such damage can be reverted. Opinions, comments,

> experiences will be very welcome.

> > TIA

> > Isa

> > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of ronnimike

====>Sorry, Ronni, hit send too soon. Bisglycinate is the form specifically

mentioned by Life Extension. They don't sell it, in fact only Solaray makes

calcium bisglycinate, so I know they aren't hyping their own product. I've seen

studies comparing bisglycinate to citrate and citrate/malate, but not calcium

orotate. And I don't know what the article posted is talking about, I can easily

get calcium orotate, several companies make it. It normally comes in 100 mg

capsules and we give 1000 IU per day so that mandate taking TEN capsules per day

vs the 4 calcium bisglycinate she gets.

Calcium transport problems are the norm for mercury toxic folks so perhaps

it's not the form but something intrinsic.

Am seeing some calcium absorption issues here...even with k and d and

magnesium...we are using calcium glycinate....is the Calcium bisglycinate

better?? Not sure why we are having this issue..they are also taking zinc

and a multi with lots of A...

Ronni

> >

> > One of our little friends has been intensively chelated w IV Ca EDTA/GH

> (ca.40 pushes in 1.5 yrs) he made a huge developmental/cognitive leap, (is

> now fully verbal, drawing, writing, painting) BUT he now shows signs of

bone

> demineralization: ALL bones squeek, poor flexibility, hip bone and knees

> hurt, teeth look in bad shape.......parents are building up mineral

intake,

> still, l don't know if such damage can be reverted. Opinions, comments,

> experiences will be very welcome.

> > TIA

> > Isa

> > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

> >

>

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