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We are on our third round of chelation with our two year old (based on a hair

test which doesn't meet counting rules, but showed higher antimony, titanium and

tin, and slightly elevated aluminum and arsenic, all pointing to mercury

toxicity). I added ALA (1.3mg per dose - he is 25 pounds) this weekend and he

has been a tantruming mess! But the severe tantruming and irritation all

started before our round of chelation though, so I don't know what is what. HE

has had a cold too. Granted, he is already a VERY difficult child when it comes

to tantruming and mood swings, he is defiant and pushy, but very affectionate

and cuddly, interacts well with others, makes great eye contact, is sweet and

funny, etc. I don't know what to make of these crazy bouts of screaming,

yelling, fighting and crying though.

This morning (our third day on round) he has spent the entire first half of his

day crying over every little thing, defying anything we ask of him and yelling

over things he wants. Is this terrible twos or is this something else going on?

My other son who is 5 is also very moody and emotional, but not so defiant. Our

older son has had issues with clostridia and yeast, a stool test also showed low

levels of e.coli and strep, but it wasn't tagged as dysbiosis. We lowered his

symptoms considerably quite a few months back, using the biofilm protocol (no

EDTA!). I never did the stool test with our two year old. As similar as they

sound in this way, they actually couldn't be more different in personality.

Since my other son never went through terrible twos, I find myself second

guessing the issues at hand. I don't know what to do about all of these

tantrums and constant irritation and if it's something I should be concerned

about, something I should address with supplementation, chelation dosing, etc.

They both take all the recommended supplements, but I don't use any adrenal

support, because my older son gets itchy with it and I never tried it with our

younger son. We do use 5HTP and GABA though. What next? What would you do?

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>>But the severe tantruming and irritation all started before our round of

chelation though, so I don't know what is what. HE has had a cold too.

Both chelation and viruses tend to increase yeast. Try increasing the yeast

protocol, see if that helps.

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Any chance of an ear infection? or UTI? Does he have speech or another form of

communication (sign or communication device)?

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Re: At wits end with tantruming

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Tue Jun 8, 2010 6:29 am (PDT)

>>But the severe tantruming and irritation all started before our round of

chelation though, so I don't know what is what. HE has had a cold too.

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Any chance he is taking Folate or B-complex in addition to chelation? He's a

kid who is normally sweet and cooperative but with both of those supplements he

had tantrums. Folate was the worst. He bit me, dug his fingernails into my arm

so hard he made me bleed, and almost broke my nose with his head during Folate

tantrums. When the supplements were removed, the tantrums stopped. Just a

thought.

>

> We are on our third round of chelation with our two year old (based on a hair

test which doesn't meet counting rules, but showed higher antimony, titanium and

tin, and slightly elevated aluminum and arsenic, all pointing to mercury

toxicity). I added ALA (1.3mg per dose - he is 25 pounds) this weekend and he

has been a tantruming mess! But the severe tantruming and irritation all

started before our round of chelation though, so I don't know what is what. HE

has had a cold too. Granted, he is already a VERY difficult child when it comes

to tantruming and mood swings, he is defiant and pushy, but very affectionate

and cuddly, interacts well with others, makes great eye contact, is sweet and

funny, etc. I don't know what to make of these crazy bouts of screaming,

yelling, fighting and crying though.

>

> This morning (our third day on round) he has spent the entire first half of

his day crying over every little thing, defying anything we ask of him and

yelling over things he wants. Is this terrible twos or is this something else

going on? My other son who is 5 is also very moody and emotional, but not so

defiant. Our older son has had issues with clostridia and yeast, a stool test

also showed low levels of e.coli and strep, but it wasn't tagged as dysbiosis.

We lowered his symptoms considerably quite a few months back, using the biofilm

protocol (no EDTA!). I never did the stool test with our two year old. As

similar as they sound in this way, they actually couldn't be more different in

personality.

>

> Since my other son never went through terrible twos, I find myself second

guessing the issues at hand. I don't know what to do about all of these

tantrums and constant irritation and if it's something I should be concerned

about, something I should address with supplementation, chelation dosing, etc.

They both take all the recommended supplements, but I don't use any adrenal

support, because my older son gets itchy with it and I never tried it with our

younger son. We do use 5HTP and GABA though. What next? What would you do?

>

>

>

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Should I increase the dose amounts of what I am giving or increase the

frequency? I already give him half of a capsule of berberine (Thorne Research

Berbercap) and 10mg Biotin three times a day, plus Cytoflora twice a day. I

didn't like using GSE so I switched to Berberine.

> >>But the severe tantruming and irritation all started before our round of

chelation though, so I don't know what is what. HE has had a cold too.

>

>

> Both chelation and viruses tend to increase yeast. Try increasing the yeast

protocol, see if that helps.

>

> Dana

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He doesn't appear to have an ear infection or a UTI, he can tell me when

something hurts, he does talk.

> >>But the severe tantruming and irritation all started before our round of

chelation though, so I don't know what is what. HE has had a cold too.

>

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He does take B-Complex, but I wasn't even giving it to him for the past week, I

just gave him half of a capsule tonight actually, and he was surprisingly well

behaved at his older brother's preschool graduation and thank goodness, because

my husband was away on business, so I had to do it all alone!! They were both

so well behaved!

> >

> > We are on our third round of chelation with our two year old (based on a

hair test which doesn't meet counting rules, but showed higher antimony,

titanium and tin, and slightly elevated aluminum and arsenic, all pointing to

mercury toxicity). I added ALA (1.3mg per dose - he is 25 pounds) this weekend

and he has been a tantruming mess! But the severe tantruming and irritation all

started before our round of chelation though, so I don't know what is what. HE

has had a cold too. Granted, he is already a VERY difficult child when it comes

to tantruming and mood swings, he is defiant and pushy, but very affectionate

and cuddly, interacts well with others, makes great eye contact, is sweet and

funny, etc. I don't know what to make of these crazy bouts of screaming,

yelling, fighting and crying though.

> >

> > This morning (our third day on round) he has spent the entire first half of

his day crying over every little thing, defying anything we ask of him and

yelling over things he wants. Is this terrible twos or is this something else

going on? My other son who is 5 is also very moody and emotional, but not so

defiant. Our older son has had issues with clostridia and yeast, a stool test

also showed low levels of e.coli and strep, but it wasn't tagged as dysbiosis.

We lowered his symptoms considerably quite a few months back, using the biofilm

protocol (no EDTA!). I never did the stool test with our two year old. As

similar as they sound in this way, they actually couldn't be more different in

personality.

> >

> > Since my other son never went through terrible twos, I find myself second

guessing the issues at hand. I don't know what to do about all of these

tantrums and constant irritation and if it's something I should be concerned

about, something I should address with supplementation, chelation dosing, etc.

They both take all the recommended supplements, but I don't use any adrenal

support, because my older son gets itchy with it and I never tried it with our

younger son. We do use 5HTP and GABA though. What next? What would you do?

> >

> >

> >

>

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