Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 BTW, while searching on DMSA, I found another (hidden?) page comparing mercury magnet with DMSA: https://www.cocoonnutrition.org/catalog/pdf_docs/Captomer_vs_Mercury_Magnet.pdf I can't say if these claims are true, but in my own case, I can certainly say that the claim about " no side effects " from mercury magnet isn't true for me. I get side effects at the recommended dose, but these can be limited to a tolerable amount by reducing the dose. In my case, I had to reduce my initial intake from the recommended dosage of 2 caps/day to 0.5 cap every other day. I suspect that I'll be able to increase that over time to the recommended dose, but I'll have to wait & see on that... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 In a message dated 27/11/2005 07:27:35 GMT Standard Time, Mandy_Roemer@... writes: Where can I buy DMSA without prescription on the internet? >>>All over the place www.vrp.com in the US has small capsule now at 25mg also 100mg caps http://www.cenaverde.com/ In the Netherlans - can't see it listed but you could ask them if they will get it for you http://www.light-and-sound.co.uk/ This is the Kirkman one that is flavoured, more expensive but much easier to adminsiter www.nutricentre.com In the Uk - I think you have to ring - Brand is Thorne Captomer 100mg 45 caps per bottle http://www.merlonipharma.ch/eng_kirkman.htm Are selling Wellness Brand - these guys are in Switzerland HTH Mandi in UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 In a message dated 27/11/2005 07:49:59 GMT Standard Time, Mum231ASD@... writes: http://www.cenaverde.com/ In the Netherlans - can't see it listed but you could ask them if they will get it for you >>I looked again because they New Beginnings Products (except the thing I want of course LOL) so if you look thunder the New Beginnings Product list there is some there For ALA - you can buy that just about anywhere. I use Kirkamn - this does not need an RX Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 We are persevering with DMSA suppositories but we think we also have had your experience. But, we are also not sure whether Fred was coming down with something in t he middle of a round. We are on our 3rd round and have managed the insertion of the suppositories when he asleep. This round has not been so easy tho as he keeps waking up! We are going to carry on until I see dr heard middle of May. Lxx Re: help needed with phenol/enzymes Thanks that helps! > Hi, > we are having trouble giving little dan his vitamin tablets. He > wont swallow the capsules. Have tried emptying them in drinks which > did not work have tried majuka honey, puting them in pears? Any > suggestions would be great. Have also tried poridge (millet). > thanks > dave > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably > qualified practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Lucinda, We switched back from the suppositories to TD-DMSA and have seen improvement in aggresion and less prone to tantrumming after one round (8hr cycle) i.e. back to pre suppositories mood. We're going to switch to a 4 hour schedule this weekend to see what happens. Emlyn > > Hi, > > we are having trouble giving little dan his vitamin tablets. He > > wont swallow the capsules. Have tried emptying them in drinks which > > did not work have tried majuka honey, puting them in pears? Any > > suggestions would be great. Have also tried poridge (millet). > > thanks > > dave > > > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > > advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably > > qualified practitioner. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Lucinda, We switched back from the suppositories to TD-DMSA and have seen improvement in aggresion and less prone to tantrumming after one round (8hr cycle) i.e. back to pre suppositories mood. We're going to switch to a 4 hour schedule this weekend to see what happens. Emlyn > > Hi, > > we are having trouble giving little dan his vitamin tablets. He > > wont swallow the capsules. Have tried emptying them in drinks which > > did not work have tried majuka honey, puting them in pears? Any > > suggestions would be great. Have also tried poridge (millet). > > thanks > > dave > > > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > > advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably > > qualified practitioner. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 In a message dated 28/05/2009 09:01:52 GMT Daylight Time, samanthal.barber@... writes: I am a newbie here so just starting on our journey with our ds. I have had a hair test done for ds which showed up loads of nasties, high cadmium,lead,manganese and nickel. I have started supplementing zinc and selenium as these were low, but was thinking about using DMSA is this a good idea at this stage ?? >>Please read up on chelation at this link http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/ HOW you use the DMSA is more important than when but most folks including me who waited to chelate wish they hadn't and just got on with it I know I also need to find a DAN practitioner, we are in suffolk. >>Whoever you find will suggest a different protocol to the one I recommend detailed above which I strongly believe is MUCH safer and more efficient than the DAN protocol Good luck Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Hi Sam, There is a list of practitioners at www.treatingautism.co.uk It is a good idea to start by healing the gut (also find info at treatingautism.co.uk). I would recommend reading 'gut and psychology syndrome' by Natasha McBride as a fantastic place to start with diet and also to supplement a good fish oil like MorEPA and probiotics. In the meanwhile try to give a junk-free diet, as home-cooked and as organic as possible. A trial of milk and all dairy products is definitely worth a go. We saw massive improvements when we took our son off milk, that's not true for everyone but it is common enough and definitely worth a go. Sara samanthal.barber@... wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > I am a newbie here so just starting on our journey with our ds. I have > had a hair test done for ds which showed up loads of nasties, high > cadmium,lead,manganese and nickel. I have started supplementing zinc > and selenium as these were low, but was thinking about using DMSA is > this a good idea at this stage ?? > > I know I also need to find a DAN practitioner, we are in suffolk. > > Any advice greatly appreciated > > Sam > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Sorry that's meant to read a trial OFF dairy Sara Moroza- wrote: > > > Hi Sam, > There is a list of practitioners at www.treatingautism.co.uk > It is a good idea to start by healing the gut (also find info at > treatingautism.co.uk). I would recommend reading 'gut and psychology > syndrome' by Natasha McBride as a fantastic place to start with > diet and also to supplement a good fish oil like MorEPA and probiotics. > In the meanwhile try to give a junk-free diet, as home-cooked and as > organic as possible. A trial of milk and all dairy products is > definitely worth a go. We saw massive improvements when we took our son > off milk, that's not true for everyone but it is common enough and > definitely worth a go. > Sara > > samanthal.barber@... > <mailto:samanthal.barber%40btinternet.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I am a newbie here so just starting on our journey with our ds. I have > > had a hair test done for ds which showed up loads of nasties, high > > cadmium,lead,manganese and nickel. I have started supplementing zinc > > and selenium as these were low, but was thinking about using DMSA is > > this a good idea at this stage ?? > > > > I know I also need to find a DAN practitioner, we are in suffolk. > > > > Any advice greatly appreciated > > > > Sam > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Hello 2009/5/28 samanthal.barber@... <samanthal.barber@...>: > Hi everyone, > > I am a newbie here so just starting on our journey with our ds. I have had a hair test done for ds which showed up loads of nasties, high cadmium,lead,manganese and nickel. I have started supplementing zinc and selenium as these were low, but was thinking about using DMSA is this a good idea at this stage ?? * If it is 3 or more days post amalgam removal then DMSA can help. Dont take any chelators without removing all metal fillings beforehand. Nickel is excreted in sweat so saunas could help him here. Lead is best removed with DMSA. It is stored in the bones and leaches out of them as the chelation works. Dont be alarmed if he appears to show little progress or even regression after 6-8 months. This is expected and will pass provided you chelate regularly. i chelate at weekends. > > I know I also need to find a DAN practitioner, we are in suffolk. There is an autism mercury list that deals with chelation via the DAN! protocol. > > Any advice greatly appreciated > > Sam -- is (aspie treating herself) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 2009/5/28 Sara Moroza- <Moroza-@...>: > Sorry that's meant to read a trial OFF dairy Also try going gluten and soy free. -- is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Does Kirkman Lab sell DMSA??? ANN _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of nikkibarbieri Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA try feelgoodnatural.com they have DMSA 25mg capsules ........................................................ > > Could anyone tell me if there is a website in Canada where you can purchase DMSA small dose? > Thanks so much if you can help. > Joyce > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 > If your doing a round and your child gets really really constipated, and the toxins don't come out, could that make her a lot worse. After this round of DMSA she is looking bad. The only thing I can think of is that I had to bring her to the ER for constipation. She finally went, but I am thinking that the lead and mercury stayed inside of her for too long. I can't think of anything else. She dose not look good. Any suggestion? At my house, yeast overgrowth was constipating. So if she is constipated with DMSA, the first thing I would try is increasing the yeast protocol. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 > My son is at the end of his first round.....he is now getting very yeasty > (loose stools, red skin) and very stimmy....What kinds of things do people > do to support their system for yeast kick-up??? Biotin and GSE worked well here. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 >>>The physician's desk reference only mentions DMSA large dosage treatment for mercury detoxication. Nowhere to find the AC protocol. Could I miss something?>>> Yes the physcian's desk reference is not always a reliable source of information. They don't say that thiomersal can cause permanent brain damage in children for example. It does however. They also don't say that large single doses of DMSA can cause permanent brain damage in children because they slowly shift more mercury in the CNS of the child. But this can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 My son's DAN doctor has not used the AC protocal for chelation. I was wondering if anyone knows of a good doctor in MI that coiuld help us get going with the treatment? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Is your DAN! unwilling to use AC protocol or just unfamiliar? It is very, very easy to do. Pam > > My son's DAN doctor has not used the AC protocal for chelation. I was wondering > if anyone knows of a good doctor in MI that coiuld help us get going with the > treatment? Thanks > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 She is unfamiliar with it. However not against it. Has anyone ever dealt with any Lyme issues in their children? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2010, at 12:14 PM, " Pamela H " <phaselow@...> wrote: > > Is your DAN! unwilling to use AC protocol or just unfamiliar? It is very, very easy to do. > > Pam > > > > > > My son's DAN doctor has not used the AC protocal for chelation. I was wondering > > if anyone knows of a good doctor in MI that coiuld help us get going with the > > treatment? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Better to get the book and do it yourself. Good chance a doctor will send you in the wrong direction for their own profit. TJ ________________________________ From: Kathleen Pominville <pominvillek@...> Sent: Mon, September 20, 2010 7:11:59 PM Subject: [ ] Re:DMSA  My son's DAN doctor has not used the AC protocal for chelation. I was wondering if anyone knows of a good doctor in MI that coiuld help us get going with the treatment? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Goodness. Have her call Andy! > > > > > > My son's DAN doctor has not used the AC protocal for chelation. I was wondering > > > if anyone knows of a good doctor in MI that coiuld help us get going with the > > > treatment? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Is that really an option? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2010, at 5:13 PM, " Pamela H " <phaselow@...> wrote: > > Goodness. Have her call Andy! > > > > > > > > > > My son's DAN doctor has not used the AC protocal for chelation. I was wondering > > > > if anyone knows of a good doctor in MI that coiuld help us get going with the > > > > treatment? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Don't think he takes phone calls. He posts here sometimes. TJ ________________________________ From: Kathy <pominvillek@...> " " < > Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 2:31:45 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re:DMSA  Is that really an option? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2010, at 5:13 PM, " Pamela H " <phaselow@...> wrote: > > Goodness. Have her call Andy! > > > > > > > > > > My son's DAN doctor has not used the AC protocal for chelation. I was >wondering > > > > > if anyone knows of a good doctor in MI that coiuld help us get going with >the > > > > > treatment? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Well, then direct the doctor to www.noamalgam.com for starters. She could purchase a copy of Amalgam Illness He/she could also possibly call or email , ARNP 206-760-9266 who Andy respects. That might be an easier contact. is in Seattle. I say there's no harm in asking, but you'd need to make sure your MD is interested in learning about AC protocol. I find it hard to believe that a DAN! doctor out there doesn't know about Andy... Pam > > > > > > > > > > My son's DAN doctor has not used the AC protocal for chelation. I was > >wondering > > > > > > > if anyone knows of a good doctor in MI that coiuld help us get going with > >the > > > > > > > treatment? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 She too has a child on the spectrum and in her own research she became aware of Andy and his research. I will definitely pass along the information. I do have to say that I was incorrect about the dosage. I thought it was 350mg(this is what the label on the DSMA said) however, she told me this morning that it is 350mg per kg. The dose was actually 25mg. I still think I feel safer going Andy's route. I winder if this doctor in Seattle would be willing to work with us? Thanks again! ________________________________ From: Pamela H <phaselow@...> Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 7:41:24 PM Subject: [ ] Re:DMSA  Well, then direct the doctor to www.noamalgam.com for starters. She could purchase a copy of Amalgam Illness He/she could also possibly call or email , ARNP 206-760-9266 who Andy respects. That might be an easier contact. is in Seattle. I say there's no harm in asking, but you'd need to make sure your MD is interested in learning about AC protocol. I find it hard to believe that a DAN! doctor out there doesn't know about Andy... Pam > > > > > > > > > > My son's DAN doctor has not used the AC protocal for chelation. I was > >wondering > > > > > > > if anyone knows of a good doctor in MI that coiuld help us get going >with > > >the > > > > > > > treatment? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 In the mean time can I start Jack on the natural chelator from Bio Ray! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2010, at 7:41 PM, " Pamela H " <phaselow@...> wrote: > Well, then direct the doctor to www.noamalgam.com for starters. She could purchase a copy of Amalgam Illness > > He/she could also possibly call or email , ARNP 206-760-9266 who Andy respects. That might be an easier contact. is in Seattle. > > I say there's no harm in asking, but you'd need to make sure your MD is interested in learning about AC protocol. I find it hard to believe that a DAN! doctor out there doesn't know about Andy... > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son's DAN doctor has not used the AC protocal for chelation. I was > > >wondering > > > > > > > > > if anyone knows of a good doctor in MI that coiuld help us get going with > > >the > > > > > > > > > treatment? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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