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Hi this is wife amber I have had a complete hyst and it wasn't very

fun for me I still have pain where they said I wouldn't. I am 30 years old

and had endometerosis.. I cant take hormones or I get sick. if you want to

talk email me OK.

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Thanks for the warm welcome.

Yes, my complete abdominal hyst has been since 1997 and I have seen lots of

DR like my husband lets say the family of pain is over here. We were

made for eachother. I have seen gastro specialist . og gyn specialist .

neurologist and even some of the same pain specialist as my hubby but to no

avail like brandon i cant take pills they make me so sick i throw up and

cant stop . great for losing weight but i can t afford that at 120 lbs. so

they say just deal with it . so i am always still looking for a dr who cares

but its very hard to find one here in indiana . maybe another state might

help.

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"Hi this is wife amber"

Hi Amber!!!

"I have had a complete hyst and it wasn't very fun for me I still have pain where they said I wouldn't."

Have you had a check up? Is there anything they can do to stop the pain?

"I am 30 years old and had endometerosis.. I cant take hormones or I get sick."

I get sick on hormones too ... sorry to hear though that you are still in pain. :-(

*HUGS*

Lovely to meet you!!

Love Aisha

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Litrollnwheels@... wrote:

so i am always still looking for a dr who cares but

its very hard to find one here in indiana . maybe another state might help.

Welcome

to the Family! You both will be great additions to our "little" family!

Sadly,

I think that 99% of the "understanding doctors", those doctors that truly

seem to care... have set up practice on either the Moon, or Mars!

If you

find a good doctor, here on earth, hold on to them, and never let go!

Love

Always!

Anne

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I had to have one due to cervical cancer and it got it all. I have been cancer free for 15 years now. I could have had the cone biopsy but due to degenerative disk disease childbearing was becoming too dangerous so we decided to do the hysterectomy. I have regretted it from time to time as I wanted to have a houseful of kids, but health wise it was the best thing for me. I have 4 wonderful daughters who will bring me the sons that I was trying for so my life will be more than complete in time.

Hugs to all

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Hi

My mum will be having a full hysterectomy in a week as the doctors believe that

she may have the specific gene that can cause ovarian and breast cancer. She had

breast cancer when she was 42 and is now 48. Aside from the terrible trouble and

pain that she has with her monthly cycle and hormones the doctors thought it

best

to give her the operation. She is happy about having the op so that she isn't

worried about a recurrence (secondary - ovarian cancer) and also because she

cannot leave the house for 2 months out of the month when her cycle begins.

I know this is not specifically related to cancer, but can anyone offer any

supplements/support that you think she should be getting after the operation to

speed her recovery or help in any way. They have told her that if she still

struggles with her hormones she can have HRT, which she couldn't have before

because of the risks.

Any help will be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Deb

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Debbie:

You might also want to consider calling and talking to KOKORO who

manufacture progesterone cream according to Dr. Lee's specifications in

" What Your Doctor Didn't Tell you about Menopause " and ...PreMenopause " .

Their website is: http://www.progesterone-resources.net/index.htm They

should really be able to give some advise that could help.

Melinda Wiman

www.cancure.org

> Re: hysterectomy

>

>

> > Hi

> > My mum will be having a full hysterectomy in a week as the doctors

believe

> that

> > she may have the specific gene that can cause ovarian and breast cancer.

> She had

> > breast cancer when she was 42 and is now 48. Aside from the terrible

> trouble and

> > pain that she has with her monthly cycle and hormones the doctors

thought

> it best

> > to give her the operation. She is happy about having the op so that she

> isn't

> > worried about a recurrence (secondary - ovarian cancer) and also because

> she

> > cannot leave the house for 2 months out of the month when her cycle

> begins.

> >

> > I know this is not specifically related to cancer, but can anyone offer

> any

> > supplements/support that you think she should be getting after the

> operation to

> > speed her recovery or help in any way. They have told her that if she

> still

> > struggles with her hormones she can have HRT, which she couldn't have

> before

> > because of the risks.

> >

> > Any help will be greatly appreciated

> > Thanks

> > Deb

> >

> > minxmedia@...

> >

> > Debbie

> > 01535 603205

> >

> >

> > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links

there.

> Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

> visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

> >

> >

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Hi Deb,

Your mother has been sold a bill of goods for a most draconian and

irreversible operation that has numerous unintended cosequences. Has your

mother spoken to ANY other patients who have had this operation. She very

defimitely should. I'll bet her surgeons would not even have 3 satisfied

customers in a LIFETIME of practice. Dr. Vicki Hufnagel,MD in her book 'No

More Hysterectomies " estimates 90 % of theese operations are unnecessary.

There are ways of decreasing and minimizing pre-menstrual cramping and

pains. Taking apple cider vinegar a few days before her period is on thing

that comes to mind. sign on to natural-healing@... for more

suggestions-ask them and someone will tell you. I'm sur Null has

information on his website www.garynull.com

Good luck

Arnold Gore

Consumers Health Freedom Coalition

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> Hi

> My mum will be having a full hysterectomy in a week as the doctors believe

that

> she may have the specific gene that can cause ovarian and breast cancer.

She had

> breast cancer when she was 42 and is now 48. Aside from the terrible

trouble and

> pain that she has with her monthly cycle and hormones the doctors thought

it best

> to give her the operation. She is happy about having the op so that she

isn't

> worried about a recurrence (secondary - ovarian cancer) and also because

she

> cannot leave the house for 2 months out of the month when her cycle

begins.

>

> I know this is not specifically related to cancer, but can anyone offer

any

> supplements/support that you think she should be getting after the

operation to

> speed her recovery or help in any way. They have told her that if she

still

> struggles with her hormones she can have HRT, which she couldn't have

before

> because of the risks.

>

> Any help will be greatly appreciated

> Thanks

> Deb

>

> minxmedia@...

>

> Debbie

> 01535 603205

>

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

>

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Deb:

Yikes!!...See if you can talk her out of it...really bad idea...

Get Dr.Lee's books on Hormones and what doctor's aren't telling her. I believe

that probably

80% of her problem is unopposed estrogen and she'll be put on syntetic hormones

which are

not even close to natural progesterone...

I'd never let her have a full hysterectomy because some testtube says she

carries some gene...so what...

she has to have it expressed for it to be dangerous, and those doctors don't

know if she would ever trigger it or not...

gads, all of us women would have everything cut out if that were the

case...what's next...?? What if a guy had a gene that

was a penile cancer gene...do you think he'd allow them to cut off his penis

" PREVENTATIVELY " ?....Common...!

I hate it when these guys use genes to " cull " the population of what they call

high-risk

patients who'll " drain the economy with their long term health problems " --be

careful of the Genome Project...it is a rename of

the old genetics program / " racial hygeine " project being done by the Nazi's in

WWII by IGFarben (we have documented proof of that)...

She can fix her problems without surgery if she's willing to take some time to

look at less

toxic more natural things...I doubt anyone has ever done a who person evaluation

rather than

just disease symptoms, have they?...There is alot more to this than her cycle

problems...and

removal of her female organs will actually make her more at risk for cancer, not

less...besides which

if there are any un-normal cells present, they'll risk activating them through

the trauma of the procedure

itself...I'd highly recommend her to NOT get this done (I've been down this road

with several patients

myself and have never seen good come from it...I don't care what genes they say

she has...only God

can determine these things, not our genes...) Just because you cut out an organ

doesn't mean you get rid of cancer...it's always systemic...the problem isn't

the cancer but the enviroment it

grows in...

Dr.Bormann

Minx wrote:

> Hi

> My mum will be having a full hysterectomy in a week as the doctors believe

that

> she may have the specific gene that can cause ovarian and breast cancer. She

had

> breast cancer when she was 42 and is now 48. Aside from the terrible trouble

and

> pain that she has with her monthly cycle and hormones the doctors thought it

best

> to give her the operation. She is happy about having the op so that she isn't

> worried about a recurrence (secondary - ovarian cancer) and also because she

> cannot leave the house for 2 months out of the month when her cycle begins.

>

> I know this is not specifically related to cancer, but can anyone offer any

> supplements/support that you think she should be getting after the operation

to

> speed her recovery or help in any way. They have told her that if she still

> struggles with her hormones she can have HRT, which she couldn't have before

> because of the risks.

>

> Any help will be greatly appreciated

> Thanks

> Deb

>

> minxmedia@...

>

> Debbie

> 01535 603205

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

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visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

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Deb,

One more afterthought. Dr. Hufnagel indicates that the ONLY reason for a

hysterectomy is if a cancer is present. Since you say your mother is

removing it based upon some gene therapy speculation that she MIGHT develop

cancer there,( which is a stretch) you can use a simple blood test for the

presence of cancer the Ant-Malign Antibody Screen or AMAS test which is said

to be 95% accurate.

It is an FDA approved test, but has not received as much publicity because

it is owned by a small research company in Boston, Oncolab,Inc. It was

invented by a Dr. Bogoch,MD Toronto,Ph.D. Harvard, It has been

written up in the Lancet 1:987,1979; 2:141-142.1981; 337:977,1991

Your Doctor can contact the lab at tel. 800-922-8378 or 617-536-0850.

Only if its positive should you even THINK about the operation. Even then

there are a lot more questions.

Arnold Gore

Consumers Health Freedom Coalition

Re: Re: hysterectomy

> thanks to Arnold and Melinda for responding to my mails, I will check out

the

> information you sent

> Cheers

> Deb

>

> minxmedia@...

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> Debbie

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Mannatech sells PLUS which has natural precursors to DHEA, our

" mother hormone " . It will naturally help your mom make some of

her sex hormones. It helps men too.

If you're a first-time customer, they have 3 products in one

package (PLUS, PhytAloe, Ambrotose) for $49. They also have a

new Hormone Support--3 immune enhancers in one pill.

:) Joy

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>Hi

>My mum will be having a full hysterectomy in a week as the doctors believe that

>she may have the specific gene that can cause ovarian and breast cancer. She

had

>breast cancer when she was 42 and is now 48. Aside from the terrible trouble

and

>pain that she has with her monthly cycle and hormones the doctors thought it

best

>to give her the operation. She is happy about having the op so that she isn't

>worried about a recurrence (secondary - ovarian cancer) and also because she

>cannot leave the house for 2 months out of the month when her cycle begins.

>

>I know this is not specifically related to cancer, but can anyone offer any

>supplements/support that you think she should be getting after the operation to

>speed her recovery or help in any way. They have told her that if she still

>struggles with her hormones she can have HRT, which she couldn't have before

>because of the risks.

>

>Any help will be greatly appreciated

>Thanks

>Deb

>

>minxmedia@...

>

>Debbie

>01535 603205

>

>

>Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

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I have had a word with my mum about your suggestions and comments but I think

she

feels a bit confused. She has spoken to several friends who have had the

operation who say they feel 100% better now (in terms of not suffering badly

with

hormones and other monthly problems) so I think she is in 2 minds about the

best

thing to do. She really does want to see an end to all this and perhaps she

feels

like this is the quickest solution. She has tried wild yam cream and also Wild

Yam supplements but her symptoms do not alter as they are so extreme, she has

also changed her diet following certain guidelines and that has done little to

help her. I think she feels pretty desperate to resolve the situation. What sort

of problems do you foresee if she has the operation?

Thanks again for all your advice and support

Deb

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Hi Penny

My name is Leanna Owen and I had a Hystorectomy when I was 29 yrs. old. The

only thing I can tell you for sure is start taking an Iron supplement prior to

surgery. It will build up your red cell count so that you bounce back better.

That is what they told me. The pain for me was comparable to a full term

delivery with nothing to show for it. I still have my ovaries and am currently

going thru the change myself. I take estrovin for the hot flashes and mood

swings, and it helps without the harmones and the side afects they often carry.

I hope this helps you. Good luck in your journey.

Leanna Owen

10/25/05

Dr. H

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abbasgirl30 <abbasgirl30@...> wrote:

Hi family, Looks like I'm in for surgery AGAIN. After three

c-sections, big babies and uterus muscles full of cysts, I'm told it's

time to say good-bye to the womb. I was on a low dose of Prozac

before surgery and 4 yrs. later I am still taking them. I am barely

premenopausal and am very concerned about hormones after surgery.

Here's my QUESTION. How can I prepare for what may happen? I'll

read, just tell me what and where. thank you, Penny T

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Penny are they going to remove your ovaries when you have the

hysterectomy? If no, you won't have to take replacement hormones. I

had severe hot flashes after my hysterectomy and oopherectomy so my

doctor proscribed estrogen with testosterone which helped cool me down

and also was good for the libido!

in Mo

12-16-03

Dr. H

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hysterectomy

Hi family, Looks like I'm in for surgery AGAIN. After three

c-sections, big babies and uterus muscles full of cysts, I'm told it's

time to say good-bye to the womb. I was on a low dose of Prozac

before surgery and 4 yrs. later I am still taking them. I am barely

premenopausal and am very concerned about hormones after surgery.

Here's my QUESTION. How can I prepare for what may happen? I'll

read, just tell me what and where. thank you, Penny T

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Honestly Penny, if I thought I'd feel that much better again,I'd ask

for ANOTHER hyssie! It took awhile to notice the improvement, but it

was so worth it. (For me, getting nothing to raise out of the deal

was just an added benefit, too!) I totally concur that building up

iron stores and general good health pre-op is important. My most

serious issue was anemia and transfusions just to prepare me for

surgery, This was about a hunnerd years ago, and I have heard so much

about the improvements leading to faster recovery. But seriously

listen to your OBGYN and follow his instructions - I lifted early and

paid for it.

Tj

> Hi family, Looks like I'm in for surgery AGAIN. After three

> c-sections, big babies and uterus muscles full of cysts, I'm told

it's

> time to say good-bye to the womb. I was on a low dose of Prozac

> before surgery and 4 yrs. later I am still taking them. I am barely

> premenopausal and am very concerned about hormones after surgery.

> Here's my QUESTION. How can I prepare for what may happen? I'll

> read, just tell me what and where. thank you, Penny T

>

>

>

>

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This is what I was told when they left one ovary, but I've been

through the change symptoms, with hormone therapy, three times, and

it's not over yet. I've quit using the patch due to fear of the

possibilities, and started using Complete Balance by Natrol. It's

done a good job for me for nearly two months, so I'll go another

month and then see if we're finished with all the nonsense this time!

But it was still worth it to have the hyssie!! Tj

>

> Penny are they going to remove your ovaries when you have the

> hysterectomy? If no, you won't have to take replacement hormones.

> Subject: hysterectomy

>

> Hi family, Looks like I'm in for surgery AGAIN. After three

> c-sections, big babies and uterus muscles full of cysts, I'm told

it's

> time to say good-bye to the womb. I was on a low dose of Prozac

> before surgery and 4 yrs. later I am still taking them. I am barely

> premenopausal and am very concerned about hormones after surgery.

> Here's my QUESTION. How can I prepare for what may happen? I'll

> read, just tell me what and where. thank you, Penny T

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

I had a hysterectomy back in 1990. I was 36 years old. I had everything

removed because of severe endometriosis. Things have changed a lot since then

as far as surgical procedures, but one thing the doctor had me do, a few weeks

before the surgery, was to donate my own blood so they would have it on hand in

case I needed it. They used it, not because I bled so much, but because it

would boost my iron level. My hysterectomy was easier and less trauma than

having my c-section back in 1981. Ask the doc about donating your own blood,

just in case you need it. I would rather get my own blood back instead of

someone else's. I know my health history. Who knows what might be in someone

else's blood! I use a low-dose estrogen patch. I get along fine.

Good luck.

abbasgirl30 <abbasgirl30@...> wrote:

Hi family, Looks like I'm in for surgery AGAIN. After three

c-sections, big babies and uterus muscles full of cysts, I'm told it's

time to say good-bye to the womb. I was on a low dose of Prozac

before surgery and 4 yrs. later I am still taking them. I am barely

premenopausal and am very concerned about hormones after surgery.

Here's my QUESTION. How can I prepare for what may happen? I'll

read, just tell me what and where. thank you, Penny T

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>

> I just found out that a friend of mine (cyberfriend) is going to have

> an hysterectomy in a matter of days.

>

> I searched the Healing site, only found one file with the word but

> it's not cached and I had a hard time finding the relevant info.

>

> Bee any advice on what I could suggest she tries before getting

> herself butchered up like that??

==> your friend should refuse to take the antibiotics they force

on people when they have surgery. The medicos are so afraid

of " infection " which is nothing more than the body's healing

mechanisms. Of course the body has to muster its defenses when it is

cut up, but that doesn't mean it is a bad thing. It will create

inflammation, which brings more blood to the area to heal, and it will

bring pus which is white blood cells created by the immune system to

heal, etc. She would be so much better off taking natural antibiotics

like garlic, oil of oregano or clove oil to help her body heal rather

than toxic damaging antibiotic drugs. Even one dose of antibiotics can

create candida as well.

==>She needs to eat well before and after surgery. After surgery a

liquid diet is best because it is easy to digest, i.e. bone broths are

excellent as well as Bee's egg drink, chicken soup, etc.

Bee

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Thanks Bee for the info. I passed it on to my German friend. She had

sent a message saying she looked up info on the net and " there is no

alternative " . Hopefully she will reconsider. I will keep you posted.

Chris.

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I heard back from my friend in Germany who is due for a hysterectomy.

She says she has some " myomas " (? her sp.) and " to get them out

without risk isn't possible, cause one of them " smushed my bleb " (?)

and another is broken through my uterus and is located in the

abdominal cavity. "

I am unsure as to what all of that means, but says she is in a lot of

pain, so a hysterectomy is necessary.

Let me know if there is any alternatives.

Thanks,

Chris.

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> I heard back from my friend in Germany who is due for a hysterectomy.

> She says she has some " myomas " (? her sp.) and " to get them out

> without risk isn't possible, cause one of them " smushed my bleb " (?)

> and another is broken through my uterus and is located in the

> abdominal cavity. "

>

> I am unsure as to what all of that means, but says she is in a lot of

> pain, so a hysterectomy is necessary.

==>Sometimes a hysterectomy is the only alternative.

Bee

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Depends on how old she is and if that tissue is also affected. At a minimum, I

believe she should try to convince her doctors not to remove the ovaries,

otherwise she will be deprived from most female hormones and their benefits. If

she is close to menopause and the tissue is in bad condition, mds will remove

it, but I insist that at least one ovary must be spared to protect her. My

0.02.

Isa

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[ ] Hysterectomy

My sister is having a hysterectomy because of growths and bleeding in her uterus

(she has two uterus.) Biopsies can not be obtained because both uterus' are

twisted. Question is: should she have fallopian tubes/ovaries and cervex removes

as well? Thanks so much for your imput.

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My sister is having a hysterectomy because of growths and bleeding in her uterus

(she has two uterus.) Biopsies can not be obtained because both uterus' are

twisted. Question is: should she have fallopian tubes/ovaries and cervex removes

as well? Thanks so much for your imput.

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