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Hi guys,

I don't contribute often, but I am a daily reader.

My son, , is bi-polar and an Aspie. He will be 21 next month. Do any of

you have any adult children with these dual diagnoses? Any adult Aspie's?

What challenges have changed as your children have hit adulthood?

How have you handled the needs for independence with need for

structure and significant supervision?

Have any of you accessed residential settings or independent living support

programs?

We are in Colorado. Any help/insights are helpful. So much of the

information regarding programs that I see is aimed at children under 18.

Thanks,

Clemy

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> Hi guys, I don't contribute often, but I am a daily reader. My son,

> , is bi-polar and an Aspie. He will be 21 next month. Do any of

> you have any adult children with these dual diagnoses? Any adult

> Aspie's? What challenges have changed as your children have hit

> adulthood? How have you handled the needs for independence with need

> for structure and significant supervision? Have any of you accessed

> residential settings or independent living support programs? We are

> in Colorado. Any help/insights are helpful. So much of the

> information regarding programs that I see is aimed at children under

> 18. Thanks, Clemy

>

Hi! Our son Louie, 24, has the dual dx of HFA/AS. And he's been in

assisted living for a bit over 3 years now. What we found out is you

have to look at more than one place, but only after you've gotten clear

in your own mind(s) what you want for your son and his future. We

looked, altogether, at 3 places, and settled on the third (a good

decision, as it turns out). The other two we rejected because one (the

ARCA facility) was actually a group home with far too many roomies for

him to cope with. It also smelled strongly of disinfectant, not like a

home at all. At both this place and the second (locally run) place we

looked, the residents were more or less babied, which we figured would

not allow Louie to develop to his fullest potential. We never babied

him (except when he was actually a baby), so why let someone else?

Anyway, the third place we checked had a 4 roomie top limit (his present

house with this agency has 3, including him), was very homey, in a super

nice neighborhood, and smelled of Glade. :) So we chose that one, after

they'd had Louie over for dinner to see what the other residents

thought. :) And he's been with this agency, which is local, ever since.

One of the deciders was that the agency had been set up by the mom and

sis of an autistic young man who were not happy with the choices offered

him. :) So I would say, look very carefully at the options available.

In NM, when you qualify for the DD Waiver, they send you a list of

places to look at that accept DD and SSI funding. That's how we found

the place Louie is now.

Oh, and he absolutely loves it! He's learned to make his own decisions

abou† his life and what he wants to do, including medical decisions

about himself....although he still asks our advice on some things before

he decides finally (he's his own guardian). His goal, toward which they

are helping him work, is to eventually have his own place with a person

to come in and help him with meals and make sure he takes his meds. :)

I think he can do it eventually, and I'd have never thought that 3 years

ago. :)

Hope this helps you somewhat!

Annie, who loves ya annie@...

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In a message dated 4/10/05 7:45:24 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> For what reasons are cows vaccinated?

>

Cows get all kinds of nasty things that can be passed on to human --

bruccelosis (sp?) is one of them. If you saw the conditions of a

slaughterhouse,

you'd see that there are disease machines.

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I haven't read much, but i'm guessing that by the time

i'm through, it will be obvious that vaccines and

hormones are causing neurological disorders that are

being passed on to people. I would highly recommend

that all on this group do research on cows and

vaccines and hormones and share your discoveries.

Connie

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I haven't read much, but i'm guessing that by the time

i'm through, it will be obvious that vaccines and

hormones are causing neurological disorders that are

being passed on to people. I would highly recommend

that all on this group do research on cows and

vaccines and hormones and share your discoveries.

Connie

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I would also venture to guess that chicken could also be involved.

They grow a chicken now in about 6 weeks and it used to take about 2 -

3 times that long. Chickens are also vaccinated before they are taken

out to the grower. Much the same can be said about hogs that are grown

commercially.

Charlie

> I haven't read much, but i'm guessing that by the time

> i'm through, it will be obvious that vaccines and

> hormones are causing neurological disorders that are

> being passed on to people. I would highly recommend

> that all on this group do research on cows and

> vaccines and hormones and share your discoveries.

>

> Connie

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>I would also venture to guess that chicken could also

be involved.

They grow a chicken now in about 6 weeks and it used

to take about 2 -

3 times that long. Chickens are also vaccinated before

they are taken

out to the grower. Much the same can be said about

hogs that are grown

commercially.

Yea, from what i understand what they do to chicken is

worse than what they do to red meat. Also, and i'm not

sure yet because i have just started to read, but

apparently they are feeding swine what they couldn't

feed cattle and chicken. Apparently swine doesn't show

signs of mental illness when fed whatever usually

causes CNS in cattle and chicken. SO DON'T THINK PORK

IS SAFE EITHER!

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Sounds like you found your sweet spot for DIM. Hold off on it 'till the

woodies come back then 1/2 a tab daily until the insomnia comes again -

then repeat with 1/4, 1/8 as necessary until you get a daily dose.

Alternatively, don't take any until the wood goes away, then take one

every other day and repeat as above.

Louis

P.S. Wifey make peepee happy - now me amiable guy!!!!!

> Message: 23

> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 12:44:54 -0000

> From: " Greg Kevorkian " <grekkevork@...>

> Subject: Question

>

> 4 days ago I started taking Dim because I wasn't feeling anything on 2

> tubes of Testim. The last 2 mornings I had a woody.

>

> Last night I woke up after about an hour of sleep and was extremy

> agitated, irritable, angry and nwervous. I felt like punching a wall.

> My body felt shaky. I was up all night like that. Very scarry feeling.

>

> Has anyone experienced anything similar?

>

>

> Thanks

> Greg

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>>From what I've read, I understand that one of the biggest risks for

> increasing the frequency/severity of flares is stress, and I'm

> working hard to reduce that. The idea of some radical elimination

> diet sounds stressful to me.<g>

FWIW, flares for me are often brought on my exposure to mold (which also

happens to include the secretions (Candida) that my two cats put out.)

Dog urine and saliva is supposedly not the same, although I react to

them, too.

Before I was diagnosed with RA, I was dxd by my sinus

surgeon with an immune system reaction to mold (a genetic t cell defect,

isn't that what RA is, too?,) which includes fatigue

and severe inflammation. According to research from the Mayo Clinic

and Hopkins (so my doc says), 1 out of 7 people have this condition

and it's different than an allergy. Which means that Benadryl, etc,

won't touch it.

I had to pull up all the carpets (that was the main source of the mold)

upstairs, sand the subfloors, clean with botanical mold treatments, put

down laminate, etc. Still working on the kitchen and bathroom (I can't

be in there for more than five minutes at a time; I figure it's because

of all the times the toilet's overflowed onto the subfloor.)

When I flare, or wake up feeling like I've been hit by a truck (more so

than when I flare with pain) I thoroughly clean my bedroom (which I try

to do once a week anyway to keep any mold dust that might have been

tracked in to a mininum.) The main thing I do, tho, is to change my

sheets, cuz the cats are on them a lot.

I've found that when I do that (knock on wood) I always wake up feeling

better the next day...

Just my two cents, but hey, if just changing the sheets can help anybody

else

even a little bit, than it was worth this novel :)

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