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> RGO - ...I dont really think there is much to

> fear from the ALA/DMSA approach. Start with a very small dose and

> follow the protocol. So many have done this. Its the IV method that

> hurts people. The important thing is to really know the protocol.

>

Is there a way to purchase DMSA without going through a doctor so that

it can be taken orally? I have never tried this. I try just about

everything (within reason) at least once.

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Yum. Tempting

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> I think the thought of Sam sitting having a filling is about as

> likely as me becoming pope, as the girl in little britain so

> succintly puts it " computer says Nahh " !!

>

> HEY ALL

>

> WE TOO ARE THINKING OF DENTISTY THINGS AT THE MOMENT...

>

> DI, THIS CRACKED ME UP (TRANSLATION:- I LAUGHED:-)) LITTLE

BRITAIN,

> BRILLIANT STUFF...

>

> THE CHANCE OF REBECCA HAVING A FILLING...WELL I DONT REALLY WANT

TO THINK

> ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR SCENARIO. BUT MIGHT HAVE TO...

>

> WILL MAYBE HAVE TO GET THE LIQUID DIAZEPAM OUT THE CUPBOARD AND

GIVE IT A

> GO!!!!! IF IT DOESNT WORK FOR BECKY BUGS, (AS WE CALL HER) WILL

JUST HAVE TO

> HAVE A SWIG (SORRY, MEAN DRINK!!) MYSELF.

>

> LUV CAROLINE

> XXXX

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In a message dated 02/05/2006 16:55:43 GMT Daylight Time, awex@... writes:

My own gut ( sorry! ) feelings, based on my wife and myself both having fillings and three kids, is that the condition of your teeth is less important than not letting your children have any vaccinations.

>>>I agree . I , like many others had amlagam fillings REMOVED & REPLACED during the first trimester because it was free........................jeez its costing me a lot now, and thats before we start counting the money

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> I have been doing some more reading. Dr. Konrad Werthmann (MD),

German doctor that works for Pleomorphic, states that unless you

remove amalgam fillings you will never get rid of candidiasis. What

do you think about that Bee? I know I can't do the chlorophyll due to

the increase symptoms and pain in my jaw area.

>

> I have a whole mouth of fillings.

==>There are so many things on my program that chelate out heavy

metals, the most important being good saturated fats, in addition to

vitamin C, sauerkraut, etc. Even the famous Hal Huggins, Dentist,

says butter chelates out mercury.

==>I had a mouth full of fillings when I was on the candida program

and I couldn't afford to have them removed because I was on welfare.

I took chlorella and I was still able to cure my candida. I thought I

am living proof that heavy metals is too over emphasized. But it

became another hugh money-maker for dentists. One of the things your

body does best is chelate out heavy metals if you give it what it

needs to do its job. Of course it is ideal to have the fillings

removed and replaced with non-toxic fillings.

==>Are you sure the chlorophyll is causing a problem or is it creating

healing reactions? Did you ever get hit in the jaw or have major

dental surgery, gum scraping, etc.? It is possible that area needs

healing too.

Luv, Bee

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I've emailed you some info about biological dentistry that you will

find helpful. 6 years ago I was so sick and tired all the time and

had really bad brain fog. I'd repeatedly get rid of my candida but it

kept coming back. After amalgam removal I could think and concentrate

better immediately but by then my kidneys and liver were in no

condition to chelate and I was allergic to many things. I couldn't

tolerate fat or dairy either and had to eat enzymes with every meal.

Chlorella is a pretty allergenic substance and around 1 out of 3

people is allergic to it. Cilantro is also a well known chelator but

it can redistribute metals and cause further damage.

I haven't noticed any candida after removing the metals from my body.

The body is very individual and I've met people with mouths full of

metal who are very healthy and others who are in wheelchairs.

Check your bulk file if you don't see my email. I think and

Hotmail have both gone somewhat crazy in their zeal to protect people

from so call s*p*a*m to the point where even when some people write

me, their emails are returned and not accepted. No need for high

filtering anymore.

Sharon

>

> Hello all im still in the process of reading up about the diet and the

> forum, but I thought I would ask if anyone has removed their amalgam

> fillings? I have several that I am wanting to get out and my dentist

> agreed to do it but warned me of the problems with removal such as

> vapors and such. I would love to hear from others on this topic I know

> its somewhat controversial in the dental field. I would love to hear

> from others who have Candida and removed the fillings, and how their

> health has changed or not changed since?

>

>

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I've emailed you some info about biological dentistry that you will

find helpful. 6 years ago I was so sick and tired all the time and

had really bad brain fog. I'd repeatedly get rid of my candida but it

kept coming back. After amalgam removal I could think and concentrate

better immediately but by then my kidneys and liver were in no

condition to chelate and I was allergic to many things. I couldn't

tolerate fat or dairy either and had to eat enzymes with every meal.

Chlorella is a pretty allergenic substance and around 1 out of 3

people is allergic to it. Cilantro is also a well known chelator but

it can redistribute metals and cause further damage.

I haven't noticed any candida after removing the metals from my body.

The body is very individual and I've met people with mouths full of

metal who are very healthy and others who are in wheelchairs.

Check your bulk file if you don't see my email. I think and

Hotmail have both gone somewhat crazy in their zeal to protect people

from so call s*p*a*m to the point where even when some people write

me, their emails are returned and not accepted. No need for high

filtering anymore.

Sharon

>

> Hello all im still in the process of reading up about the diet and the

> forum, but I thought I would ask if anyone has removed their amalgam

> fillings? I have several that I am wanting to get out and my dentist

> agreed to do it but warned me of the problems with removal such as

> vapors and such. I would love to hear from others on this topic I know

> its somewhat controversial in the dental field. I would love to hear

> from others who have Candida and removed the fillings, and how their

> health has changed or not changed since?

>

>

>

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> ,

>

> I've emailed you some info about biological dentistry that you will

> find helpful. 6 years ago I was so sick and tired all the time and

> had really bad brain fog. I'd repeatedly get rid of my candida

but it kept coming back. After amalgam removal I could think and

concentrate better immediately but by then my kidneys and liver were

in no condition to chelate and I was allergic to many things. I

couldn't tolerate fat or dairy either and had to eat enzymes with

every meal. Chlorella is a pretty allergenic substance and around 1

out of 3 people is allergic to it. Cilantro is also a well known

chelator but it can redistribute metals and cause further damage.

==>That's why the longer slow way of giving the body what it needs

to chelate out heavy metals is so much better, and at the same time

build up the immune system and the entire body, i.e. kidneys and

liver. I agree with you about chlorella and that's why I recommend

Liquid Chlorophyll instead. There are many foods that chelate out

heavy metals and good fats from animals and fish are the very best,

along with fermented foods, garlic, lemon water, etc. - all of the

wonderful foods on my diet. People often misinterpret their

intolerance of fats.

Bee

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Hi , everyone,

Just a little extra information to add to the mercury fillings database.

I was talking to a dentist just a few weeks ago about this very topic

and this is what she told me:

She admitted that mercury/amalgam fillings are not great, however its

the process of either putting them in or taking them out that gives us

the greatest exposure to the toxicity of the materials.

Over time small particles will come off as you eat, but the severity of

any other toxic syptoms that you experience will depend on how deep

your fillings go into the tooth (ie, its the internal exposure inside

the filling that will have a greater impact).

Usually amalgam fillings are quite stable and will last a lifetime, the

safer enamel alternatives usually need to be replaced every 10 years or

so because they dont last.

When I asked if she would ever get amalgam fillings, her rapid response

was " no " . Kinda says alot when a dentist refuses to use what so many

people already have in their mouths.

Another interesting side note is that a technique called " oil pulling "

which has been discussed in this group before, where oil (usually

unrefined sesame oil) is swished around your mouth for 20 minutes 2-3

times a day and then spat out, can result in peoples amalgam fillings

falling out, due to the ability of the oils to bind with the metals.

Oil pulling is an Ayurvedic principle, that helps to remove toxins from

your system (including parasites and heavy metals).

I started oil pulling at the start of the year, and definitely noticed

an improvement in my health, in particular my skin and mouth (and also

noticed that my skin got worse again when I stopped doing it). It was

thru this research of oil pulling tho that I found out about candida

and LGS, so now I am instead trying to resolve the origins of the

toxins in my body (ie, candida) rather than just trying to keep up with

removing the toxins that they cause.

Could oil pulling help people deal with the dying off symptoms by

helping to remove the toxins that are left behind by the dying candida?

There was mention of people in this group who were trying it along with

the candida diet, perhaps the people who have tried oil pulling can

provide an insight into this being valid or not?

I have stopped oil pulling whilst doing Bee's candida diet, as oil

pulling can be an intense process of cleaning for the body, like

swirling up the debris at the bottom of a calm but dirty swimming pool.

But in hindsight, maybe it could be worth while starting again.

Nick.

>

> Hello all im still in the process of reading up about the diet and

the

> forum, but I thought I would ask if anyone has removed their amalgam

> fillings? I have several that I am wanting to get out and my dentist

> agreed to do it but warned me of the problems with removal such as

> vapors and such. I would love to hear from others on this topic I

know

> its somewhat controversial in the dental field. I would love to hear

> from others who have Candida and removed the fillings, and how their

> health has changed or not changed since?

>

>

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I had my filling drilled out. As the result I later had to get the

tooth pulled, due to harsh drilling. However, I don't regret it one

bit. I've lost the tooth, but I've also lost 24 hour constant heavy

metal vapor leeching into my head. Now on the great roll, chelating

with Bee's diet.

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Bee;

My doctor says as long as I still have mercury fillings I will never put my

candida in check, is that true?

I tried a dif kind of filling but my tooth broke and I lost it

Jeanne

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Hi Jeanne,

It's not true.

I've still got amalgam fillings in my mouth and I've cured my candida. Bee

recommends that if you decide to remove them you should wait until your immune

system is healthier. You should also find a holistic dentist that understands

how to remove them safely.

Jackie

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> Bee;

>

> My doctor says as long as I still have mercury fillings I will never put my

candida in check, is that true?

>

> I tried a dif kind of filling but my tooth broke and I lost it

>

> Jeanne

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I have others left. My parents do the dentist thing at all growing up. So I

didn't have any dental work done until I was like 21. Actually, only 1 tooth

cracked with the fillings. That was when I was pregnant with my first, PPD-NOS

guy. I told me to come back after the baby, crown. My first tooth actually

broke on a dum dum, before any fillings. So only 1 tooth cracked. I must have

6 white ones left.

Tammy

[ ] Re: Fillings

Didn't you just say that yours (the white ones) have lasted 25 years without

replacing? Now, I am confused.

> > >

> > > My son is 17 and has no fillings of any kind in his teeth. When he went

to the dentist this week he said he had two tiny cavities that would need to be

filled within the next few months; nothing pressing. What type of fillings do we

get if not amalgams? What do I request?

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> > > Thanks,

> > > D.

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Thank you. I have a vaccine injured son who showed allergic reactions to all

metals when he was a baby(hereditary). Contact rash to nickel, aluminum, etc. My

father had such a problem that he could not carry change in his pocket. I can't

wear rings that are 14k gold.

Don't want metal in his mouth. Thanks for the input.

From: Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Fillings

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Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 12:21 PM

 

Needing to be replaced often is a rumor spread by the pro-mercury folks, which

has been picked up by dentists inexperienced in using compositie (requires more

skill than amalgam) and by insurance companies who don't want to cover the

healthier options.

S S

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Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@... bailykuhn

Wed May 19, 2010 7:46 pm (PDT)

Excuse me? Every few years. I've had mine for 25 years. No problems so far.

Tammy

[ ] Fillings

The white ones. And they have to be replaced, generally, every few years.

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, This is not a rumor. My daughter has some of the whie composite fillings.

WE go to the pediatric dentist every 6 months. On the last visit, they told me

they needed to replace a filling. I inquired as to why and was told, " The white

fillings generally need to be replaced every 2-3 years. " Not a rumor, a fact the

dentist told me (and they do not push silver fillings because we have metal

allergies.) Any filling, silver or white, can leak. I know because I

unfortunately have two silver ones in my mouth. One has been leaking for some

time, but I am afraid to have it removed because of the release of mercury into

my system when it is done. So, there they sit.

Supposedly, as is true in my family's case, the silver ones last longer than the

white ones (and it has held true, as I have had mine since tenage years). I do

advocate for silver fillings at all. I wanted white. If I could afford, I would

do gold! Never heard any bad things about gold.

>

> Needing to be replaced often is a rumor spread by the pro-mercury folks, which

has been picked up by dentists inexperienced in using compositie (requires more

skill than amalgam) and by insurance companies who don't want to cover the

healthier options.

> S S

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> Re: Fillings

> Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@... bailykuhn

> Wed May 19, 2010 7:46 pm (PDT)

>

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> Excuse me? Every few years. I've had mine for 25 years. No problems so far.

>

> Tammy

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> [ ] Fillings

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> The white ones. And they have to be replaced, generally, every few years.

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> > Needing to be replaced often is a rumor spread by the pro-mercury folks,

which has been picked up by dentists inexperienced in using compositie (requires

more skill than amalgam) and by insurance companies who don't want to cover the

healthier options.

> > S S

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> > Re: Fillings

> > Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@ bailykuhn

> > Wed May 19, 2010 7:46 pm (PDT)

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> > Excuse me? Every few years. I've had mine for 25 years. No problems so far.

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> > The white ones. And they have to be replaced, generally, every few years.

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The fact is that my daughter has composite fillings and one is leaking. Nothing

ti argue with; it is a fact. You are telling me it is not a fact that her

composite is leaking? Leaking meaning there is a gap around it where the filling

is...not leaking anything into her mouth. I am pretty sure it was done

correctly, but my daughter eats candy, gum, etc... and she told us they were not

as sturdy as silver.

My silver is leaking, meaning there is a gap where decay could set in (as

evidenced by a black dot on the side of my tooth).

> > >

> > > Needing to be replaced often is a rumor spread by the pro-mercury folks,

which has been picked up by dentists inexperienced in using compositie (requires

more skill than amalgam) and by insurance companies who don't want to cover the

healthier options.

> > > S S

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> > > Re: Fillings

> > > Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@ bailykuhn

> > > Wed May 19, 2010 7:46 pm (PDT)

> > >

> > >

> > > Excuse me? Every few years. I've had mine for 25 years. No problems so

far.

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> > > Tammy

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> > > The white ones. And they have to be replaced, generally, every few years.

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Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 7:32:58 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Fillings

The fact is that my daughter has composite fillings and one is leaking. Nothing

ti argue with; it is a fact. You are telling me it is not a fact that her

composite is leaking? Leaking meaning there is a gap around it where the filling

is...not leaking anything into her mouth. I am pretty sure it was done

correctly, but my daughter eats candy, gum, etc... and she told us they were not

as sturdy as silver.

My silver is leaking, meaning there is a gap where decay could set in (as

evidenced by a black dot on the side of my tooth).

> > >

> > > Needing to be replaced often is a rumor spread by the pro-mercury folks,

which has been picked up by dentists inexperienced in using compositie (requires

more skill than amalgam) and by insurance companies who don't want to cover the

healthier options.

> > > S S

> > >

> > > Re: Fillings

> > > Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@ bailykuhn

> > > Wed May 19, 2010 7:46 pm (PDT)

> > >

> > >

> > > Excuse me? Every few years. I've had mine for 25 years. No problems so

far.

> > >

> > > Tammy

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> > > [ ] Fillings

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> > > The white ones. And they have to be replaced, generally, every few years.

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> > > > Needing to be replaced often is a rumor spread by the pro-mercury folks,

which has been picked up by dentists inexperienced in using compositie (requires

more skill than amalgam) and by insurance companies who don't want to cover the

healthier options.

> > > > S S

> > > >

> > > > Re: Fillings

> > > > Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@ bailykuhn

> > > > Wed May 19, 2010 7:46 pm (PDT)

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> > > > Excuse me? Every few years. I've had mine for 25 years. No problems so

far.

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> > > > Tammy

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> > > > The white ones. And they have to be replaced, generally, every few

years.

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Mercury amalgam dental fillings *happen* to contain approximately 52% mercury.

S S

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Fri May 21, 2010 11:50 pm (PDT)

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Amalgram filling =silver filling. But mercury does not equal silver filling. I

believe you used incorrect wording. Everyone knows that a silver filling is an

amalgram. But I do not *JUST* have liquid mercury in my mouth....the mercury

that was in my silver filling is undoubtedly leeched into my system (years ago).

These fillings are over 30 years old.

Silver filling is considered correct terminology, as is Amalgram, but to say

plainly *mercury* is incorret grammar.

You keep trying to correct something that needs no correction.

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> > > > > > > Needing to be replaced often is a rumor spread by the pro-mercury

folks, which has been picked up by dentists inexperienced in using compositie

(requires more skill than amalgam) and by insurance companies who don't want to

cover the healthier options.

> > > > > > > S S

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> > > > > > > Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@ bailykuhn

> > > > > > > Wed May 19, 2010 7:46 pm (PDT)

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> > > > > > > Excuse me? Every few years. I've had mine for 25 years. No

problems so far.

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> > > > > > > The white ones. And they have to be replaced, generally, every few

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" Mercury filling " is the preferred term, referring to the PRIMARY ingredient.

" Silver filling " is the term used by the ADA drones who are hoping that people

don't notice that dentists are putting poison into their mouths, organs and

brain.

You might be interested in the " smoking tooth " video, showing ongoing mercury

vaporization, years after placement.

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> > > > > > > > Needing to be replaced often is a rumor spread by the

pro-mercury folks, which has been picked up by dentists inexperienced in using

compositie (requires more skill than amalgam) and by insurance companies who

don't want to cover the healthier options.

> > > > > > > > S S

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> > > > > > > > Re: Fillings

> > > > > > > > Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@ bailykuhn

> > > > > > > > Wed May 19, 2010 7:46 pm (PDT)

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> > > > > > > > Excuse me? Every few years. I've had mine for 25 years. No

problems so far.

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few years.

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, The dentist has absolutely nothing to gain by lying about my daughter's

filling being replaced. We have 100% dental coverage and she makes minimal $$

from them (the insurance company). If it needs to be replaced, then it needs to

be replaced. The filling is less than 3 years old.

I know sticky gum and candy, as well as ice, are not good for any fillings...and

maybe that is a contributing factor. Afterall, she is only 13 years-old.

Kudos to those who have had composite fillings for over 25 years.

I guess they don't make them like they used to.

>

> If a dentist told me composite fillings had to be replaced every two to three

years I would find another dentist.

> S S

>

> > > , This is not a rumor. My daughter has some of the whie composite

fillings. WE go to the pediatric dentist every 6 months. On the last visit, they

told me they needed to replace a filling. I inquired as to why and was told,

" The white fillings generally need to be replaced every 2-3 years. " Not a rumor,

a fact the dentist told me (and they do not push silver fillings because we have

metal allergies.)

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That really depends in what decade they were made, who made them and how precise

they were in mixing ingredients.

Fillings frm 30-40 years ago are not the same as 5 years ago or today.

That is a really blanket statement to put out there, when they are individually

made.

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> Mercury amalgam dental fillings *happen* to contain approximately 52% mercury.

> S S

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> > Mercury amalgam dental fillings *happen* to contain approximately 52%

mercury.

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I am sure you trust your dentist and we all defend the ones we trust, but there

is no harm with confirming from a third party.

There is a difference between a filling - which can fall off, out, etc. and a

crown, and if you have a filling that should have been a crown, then that is

most likely going to crack and need a crown eventually. Then, there are also

fillings for young children for cavity prevention that sometime fall out or wear

down, but there is also the consideration for whether or not there are dental

caries under the filling causing an issue.

If these are regular composites, my DENTIST would be concerned if they needed to

be replaced every three years. Sure, you get them checked every time you go in,

but you don't replace them unless you have to... that is a lot of trauma to a

body that is healing. Maybe your dentist was giving you a worst case scenario?

I would call the ADA and ask them, because their literature states that they

should last at LEAST 5 and up to 15 years.

" Worn-Out Fillings

Some fillings can last for 15 years or longer. Others, however, will have to be

replaced in as little as five years. Your dentist can determine if your fillings

are worn enough that they need to be replaced. "

" Keeping Your Fillings

Although some fillings can last for many years, the average life of an amalgam

filling is about 12 years. Composite fillings may not last this long. "

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http://www.simplestepsdental.com/SS/ihtSS/r.WSIHW/st.31850/t.31916/pr.3.html#Why\

_Replace_a_Filling_

As for mercury content:

" Dental Amalgam and Mercury

Dental amalgam fillings are created by mixing elemental mercury (between 43

percent and 54 percent) and an alloy powder composed mainly of silver, tin and

copper. "

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http://www.ada.org/sections/publicResources/pdfs/dental_fillings_facts_full.pdf

Just to put this out there - I can charge up to $125/hr, but if I am paying my

assistant for a 20 hour week and she has nothing to do, taking a job at $25/hr

still makes me money because it is paying her. Anything that can be billed at a

rate more than the cost to perform the service is a profit, " minimal " or not.

Warm Regards,

Summer McFarland

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> , The dentist has absolutely nothing to gain by lying about my daughter's

filling being replaced. We have 100% dental coverage and she makes minimal $$

from them (the insurance company). If it needs to be replaced, then it needs to

be replaced. The filling is less than 3 years old.

> I know sticky gum and candy, as well as ice, are not good for any

fillings...and maybe that is a contributing factor. Afterall, she is only 13

years-old.

> Kudos to those who have had composite fillings for over 25 years.

> I guess they don't make them like they used to.

>

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