Re: Visual Stimming Question

[Guest guest]

Cod liver oil helped my son's sideways looking/running down hallways close to

walls. Vitamin A is probably the help here.

Pam

>

> My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint

the one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences,

bushes, up and down chair slats. He also likes to take his fork when he is

eating and do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes

the same. He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with

his face right on top of a picture or something. He has a Baby Einstein video

where a ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the

end where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like

crazy when it comes to him. We don't much let him have anything that lights up

anymore because it was much worse then. He is amazing on a computer but I'm

concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,

then runs and jumps all around like never before. He also always turns his TV

on when his computer is on. I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even

though he appears to love it. Any experiences with this or recommendations? I

know a lot of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them

deal with things. For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly

non-verbal and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is

wrong with him. He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he stems

on. He loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I would

appreciate any help I can get on this. Thanks so much!

>

[Guest guest]

I found that sufficient CLO/fish oil stopped my son's visual stims.  As far as

the other stims go, one way to deal with them/lessen them, is to imitate them. 

So if your son tries to stand on his head or spins, you put him upside down and

spin him.  My OT explained that by stimming the child is trying to stimulate

but when someone else does it, it causes the behavior to slow down or cease.  I

know it sounds weird, but this has worked for us.

________________________________

From: funitln1 <angelaperatta@...>

Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 12:33:13 PM

Subject: [ ] Visual Stimming Question

 

My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint the

one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences, bushes,

up and down chair slats. He also likes to take his fork when he is eating and do

the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes the same. He

also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with his face right

on top of a picture or something. He has a Baby Einstein video where a ball

rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the end where it

rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like crazy when it

comes to him. We don't much let him have anything that lights up anymore because

it was much worse then. He is amazing on a computer but I'm concerned to about

him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter, then runs and

jumps all around like never before. He also always turns his TV on when his

computer is on.

I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even though he appears to love

it. Any experiences with this or recommendations? I know a lot of parents that

just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them deal with things. For us,

when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly non-verbal and a bit

hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is wrong with him. He also

doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he stems on. He loves them, but

he finds other things to do he is happy with. I would appreciate any help I can

get on this. Thanks so much!

[Guest guest]

In our case, upping the CLO dose helped with visual function, a lot. Use a good

one.

Good luck

Isa

Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

[ ] Visual Stimming Question

My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint the

one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences, bushes,

up and down chair slats. He also likes to take his fork when he is eating and

do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes the same.

He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with his face

right on top of a picture or something. He has a Baby Einstein video where a

ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the end

where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like

crazy when it comes to him. We don't much let him have anything that lights up

anymore because it was much worse then. He is amazing on a computer but I'm

concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,

then runs and jumps all around like never before. He also always turns his TV

on when his computer is on. I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even

though he appears to love it. Any experiences with this or recommendations? I

know a lot of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them

deal with things. For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly

non-verbal and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is

wrong with him. He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he stems

on. He loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I would

appreciate any help I can get on this. Thanks so much!

[Guest guest]

> My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint

the one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences,

bushes, up and down chair slats. He also likes to take his fork when he is

eating and do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes

the same. He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with

his face right on top of a picture or something.

For my son, this was caused by yeast, viruses, and B12 deficiency. Once I

addressed all of those, the problem went away.

Dana

[Guest guest]

i have the same problem ..................what is clo

From: isaguzmandiaz2@... <isaguzmandiaz2@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Visual Stimming Question

" Autism mercury group " < >

Received: Monday, March 1, 2010, 11:26 PM

In our case, upping the CLO dose helped with visual function, a lot. Use a good

one.

Good luck

Isa

Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

[ ] Visual Stimming Question

My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint the

one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences, bushes,

up and down chair slats.  He also likes to take his fork when he is eating and

do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes the same. 

He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with his face

right on top of a picture or something.  He has a Baby Einstein video where a

ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the end

where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like

crazy when it comes to him.  We don't much let him have anything that lights up

anymore because it was much worse then.  He is amazing on a computer but I'm

concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,

then runs and jumps all around like never before.  He also always turns his TV

on when his

computer is on.  I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even though he

appears to love it.  Any experiences with this or recommendations?  I know a lot

of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them deal with

things.  For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly non-verbal

and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is wrong with

him.  He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he stems on.  He

loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I would appreciate

any help I can get on this.  Thanks so much! 

[Guest guest]

It is Cod Liver Oil. I use the Green Pastures fermented kind, he loves

It.... :-)

Isa

Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

[ ] Visual Stimming Question

My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint the

one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences, bushes,

up and down chair slats.  He also likes to take his fork when he is eating and

do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes the same. 

He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with his face

right on top of a picture or something.  He has a Baby Einstein video where a

ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the end

where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like

crazy when it comes to him.  We don't much let him have anything that lights up

anymore because it was much worse then.  He is amazing on a computer but I'm

concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,

then runs and jumps all around like never before.  He also always turns his TV

on when his

computer is on.  I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even though he

appears to love it.  Any experiences with this or recommendations?  I know a lot

of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them deal with

things.  For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly non-verbal

and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is wrong with

him.  He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he stems on.  He

loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I would appreciate

any help I can get on this.  Thanks so much! 

[Guest guest]

I just checked out Green Pastures, interesting it is based on Dr. Price's work. 

What flavor/product does you son love? Also, what is the consistiency is it like

a butter spread?

PWC

 

________________________________

From: " isaguzmandiaz2@... " <isaguzmandiaz2@...>

Autism mercury group < >

Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 9:59:58 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Visual Stimming Question

It is Cod Liver Oil.  I use the Green Pastures fermented kind, he loves

It.... :-)

Isa

Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

[ ] Visual Stimming Question

My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint the

one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences, bushes,

up and down chair slats.  He also likes to take his fork when he is eating and

do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes the same. 

He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with his face

right on top of a picture or something.  He has a Baby Einstein video where a

ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the end

where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like

crazy when it comes to him.  We don't much let him have anything that lights up

anymore because it was much worse then.  He is amazing on a computer but I'm

concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,

then runs and jumps all around like never before.  He also always turns his TV

on when his

computer is on.  I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even though he

appears to love it.  Any experiences with this or recommendations?  I know a lot

of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them deal with

things.  For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly non-verbal

and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is wrong with

him.  He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he stems on.  He

loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I would appreciate

any help I can get on this.  Thanks so much! 

[Guest guest]

He likes the pure fermented oil, no particular flavor. It was hard getting him

to accept it in the beginning, now he swallows and smells it before opening his

mouth...funny thing, it doesn't smell pleasant at all! If your kid resists in

the beginning, try the mint flavored, we had it for some time and l believe it

is an acquired taste now.

Isa

Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

[ ] Visual Stimming Question

My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint the

one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences, bushes,

up and down chair slats.  He also likes to take his fork when he is eating and

do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes the same. 

He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with his face

right on top of a picture or something.  He has a Baby Einstein video where a

ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the end

where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like

crazy when it comes to him.  We don't much let him have anything that lights up

anymore because it was much worse then.  He is amazing on a computer but I'm

concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,

then runs and jumps all around like never before.  He also always turns his TV

on when his

computer is on.  I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even though he

appears to love it.  Any experiences with this or recommendations?  I know a lot

of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them deal with

things.  For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly non-verbal

and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is wrong with

him.  He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he stems on.  He

loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I would appreciate

any help I can get on this.  Thanks so much! 

[Guest guest]

can you buy this in stores or just through the website?  THanks for all the

info....looks like a great product.

PWC

________________________________

From: " isaguzmandiaz2@... " <isaguzmandiaz2@...>

Autism mercury group < >

Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 10:52:39 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Visual Stimming Question

He likes the pure fermented oil, no particular flavor.  It was hard getting him

to accept it in the beginning, now he swallows and smells it before opening his

mouth...funny thing, it doesn't smell pleasant at all!  If your kid resists in

the beginning, try the mint flavored, we had it for some time and l believe it

is an acquired taste now.

Isa

Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

[ ] Visual Stimming Question

My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint the

one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences, bushes,

up and down chair slats.  He also likes to take his fork when he is eating and

do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes the same. 

He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with his face

right on top of a picture or something.  He has a Baby Einstein video where a

ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the end

where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like

crazy when it comes to him.  We don't much let him have anything that lights up

anymore because it was much worse then.  He is amazing on a computer but I'm

concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,

then runs and jumps all around like never before.  He also always turns his TV

on when his

computer is on.  I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even though he

appears to love it.  Any experiences with this or recommendations?  I know a lot

of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them deal with

things.  For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly non-verbal

and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is wrong with

him.  He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he stems on.  He

loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I would appreciate

any help I can get on this.  Thanks so much! 

[Guest guest]

Order online, not sold in stores...it is expensive but it is indeed great stuff,

have used other brands and my kid always developed reflux w those.

Good luck!

Isa

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[ ] Visual Stimming Question

My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint the

one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences, bushes,

up and down chair slats.  He also likes to take his fork when he is eating and

do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes the same. 

He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with his face

right on top of a picture or something.  He has a Baby Einstein video where a

ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the end

where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like

crazy when it comes to him.  We don't much let him have anything that lights up

anymore because it was much worse then.  He is amazing on a computer but I'm

concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,

then runs and jumps all around like never before.  He also always turns his TV

on when his

computer is on.  I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even though he

appears to love it.  Any experiences with this or recommendations?  I know a lot

of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them deal with

things.  For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly non-verbal

and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is wrong with

him.  He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he stems on.  He

loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I would appreciate

any help I can get on this.  Thanks so much! 

[Guest guest]

My 4 y/o daughter takes this and it REALLY helped with her side glancing and

wanting to look at things with one eye turned and the other squinted etc.

But now...she is doing it again. She was doing 1/2 teaspoon of the CLO (non

flavored fermented).

Should I up the dosage and if so, to what? Her vitamin A is already high so I

was worried about it.

Thanks!

>

> From: isaguzmandiaz2@... <isaguzmandiaz2@...>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Visual Stimming Question

> " Autism mercury group " < >

> Received: Monday, March 1, 2010, 11:26 PM

>

>

> In our case, upping the CLO dose helped with visual function, a lot. Use a

good one.

> Good luck

> Isa

> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

>

> [ ] Visual Stimming Question

>

> My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint

the one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences,

bushes, up and down chair slats.  He also likes to take his fork when he is

eating and do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes

the same.  He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with

his face right on top of a picture or something.  He has a Baby Einstein video

where a ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the

end where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like

crazy when it comes to him.  We don't much let him have anything that lights up

anymore because it was much worse then.  He is amazing on a computer but I'm

concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,

then runs and jumps all around like never before.  He also always turns his TV

on when his

> computer is on.  I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even though he

appears to love it.  Any experiences with this or recommendations?  I know a lot

of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them deal with

things.  For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly non-verbal

and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is wrong with

him.  He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he stems on.  He

loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I would appreciate

any help I can get on this.  Thanks so much! 

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hello jazzy k,

if you are already giving high vit a doses and she suddenly came back to the

visual pattern you had left behing, l believe it is worth checking for a viral

infection/inflammation. l also think about absoption pathways, the amount you

are giving might not be properly absorbed. are you giving CLO or some other form

of vit A?  either case, why don`t you try removing it for a couple of weeks and

then re-start at a low dose and work from there and check whether there is a

difference?  l was seeing no difference from the b-12 shots, so l left `em out

for a couple of weeks and started again a few days ago saw  an increase in

babbling.

good luck

lsa

--- El jue 11-mar-10, jazzyk298 <jazzyk298@...> escribió:

De:: jazzyk298 <jazzyk298@...>

Asunto: [ ] Re: Visual Stimming Question

A:

Fecha: jueves, 11 de marzo de 2010, 11:56

 

My 4 y/o daughter takes this and it REALLY helped with her side glancing and

wanting to look at things with one eye turned and the other squinted etc.

But now...she is doing it again. She was doing 1/2 teaspoon of the CLO (non

flavored fermented).

Should I up the dosage and if so, to what? Her vitamin A is already high so I

was worried about it.

Thanks!

>

> From: isaguzmandiaz2@ ... <isaguzmandiaz2@ ...>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Visual Stimming Question

> " Autism mercury group " < >

> Received: Monday, March 1, 2010, 11:26 PM

>

>

> In our case, upping the CLO dose helped with visual function, a lot. Use a

good one.

> Good luck

> Isa

> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

>

> [ ] Visual Stimming Question

>

> My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint

the one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences,

bushes, up and down chair slats.  He also likes to take his fork when he is

eating and do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes

the same.  He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with

his face right on top of a picture or something.  He has a Baby Einstein video

where a ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the

end where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like

crazy when it comes to him.  We don't much let him have anything that lights up

anymore because it was much worse then.  He is amazing on a computer but I'm

concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,

then runs and jumps all around like never before.  He also always turns his TV

on when his

> computer is on.  I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even though

he appears to love it.  Any experiences with this or recommendations?  I know

a lot of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them deal

with things.  For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly

non-verbal and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is

wrong with him.  He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he

stems on.  He loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I

would appreciate any help I can get on this.  Thanks so much! 

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You think 1/2 tsp is a high dose? She's not getting it in any other form.

> >

> > From: isaguzmandiaz2@ ... <isaguzmandiaz2@ ...>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] Visual Stimming Question

> > " Autism mercury group " < >

> > Received: Monday, March 1, 2010, 11:26 PM

> >

> >

> > In our case, upping the CLO dose helped with visual function, a lot. Use a

good one.

> > Good luck

> > Isa

> > Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

> >

> > [ ] Visual Stimming Question

> >

> > My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint

the one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences,

bushes, up and down chair slats.  He also likes to take his fork when he is

eating and do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes

the same.  He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with

his face right on top of a picture or something.  He has a Baby Einstein video

where a ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the

end where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like

crazy when it comes to him.  We don't much let him have anything that lights up

anymore because it was much worse then.  He is amazing on a computer but I'm

concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,

then runs and jumps all around like never before.  He also always turns his TV

on when his

> > computer is on.  I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even though

he appears to love it.  Any experiences with this or recommendations?  I know

a lot of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them deal

with things.  For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly

non-verbal and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is

wrong with him.  He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he

stems on.  He loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I

would appreciate any help I can get on this.  Thanks so much! 

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> My 4 y/o daughter takes this and it REALLY helped with her side glancing and

wanting to look at things with one eye turned and the other squinted etc.

> But now...she is doing it again. She was doing 1/2 teaspoon of the CLO (non

flavored fermented).

> Should I up the dosage and if so, to what? Her vitamin A is already high so I

was worried about it.

Once my son's vitamin A levels were high enough, giving him more vitamin A

caused the visuals to return, so you might want to actually stop the CLO for a

few days, see if that helps.

Also, my son required much more than CLO/vitamin A to eliminate visual stims, so

it might be that you need to move on to address another issue.

Dana

[Guest guest]

How old is she? And what kind of clo is she taking (contents of vit/ml)? The

rda is pretty out of the reality, it's too old.

isa

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[ ] Visual Stimming Question

> >

> > My 4 y/o likes to turn his head to one side, close the opposite eye, squint

the one turned the same direction and walk very close to things like fences,

bushes, up and down chair slats.  He also likes to take his fork when he is

eating and do the same thing by raising his fork in front of his face with eyes

the same.  He also likes to cover things partially and do this or the same with

his face right on top of a picture or something.  He has a Baby Einstein video

where a ball rolls from top to bottom across the screen and he will stand at the

end where it rolls to right up against the TV and still sees it and laughs like

crazy when it comes to him.  We don't much let him have anything that lights up

anymore because it was much worse then.  He is amazing on a computer but I'm

concerned to about him stimming on that because he just screaches with laughter,

then runs and jumps all around like never before.  He also always turns his TV

on when his

> > computer is on.  I'm assuming this is just too much stimulation even though

he appears to love it.  Any experiences with this or recommendations?  I know

a lot of parents that just allow there kids to stem and say it helps them deal

with things.  For us, when he is not stemming, other than him being mostly

non-verbal and a bit hyperactive you pretty much can't even tell anything is

wrong with him.  He also doesn't get upset if he doesn't get the things he

stems on.  He loves them, but he finds other things to do he is happy with. I

would appreciate any help I can get on this.  Thanks so much! 

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Which CLO can you give to a sensitive child?

Kathy

[ ] Re: Visual Stimming Question

>

>> My 4 y/o daughter takes this and it REALLY helped with her side glancing

>> and wanting to look at things with one eye turned and the other squinted

>> etc.

>> But now...she is doing it again. She was doing 1/2 teaspoon of the CLO

>> (non flavored fermented).

>> Should I up the dosage and if so, to what? Her vitamin A is already high

>> so I was worried about it.

>

>

> Once my son's vitamin A levels were high enough, giving him more vitamin A

> caused the visuals to return, so you might want to actually stop the CLO

> for a few days, see if that helps.

>

> Also, my son required much more than CLO/vitamin A to eliminate visual

> stims, so it might be that you need to move on to address another issue.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

>

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