Seriously losing it, need help with 2 year old

[Guest guest]

We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to prevent

these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that had

everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues. We

still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps (hunger?

growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale diarrhea,

he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder and aloe

vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an antimicrobial,

so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting them on his

feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back to 10) and

today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been mostly gone

since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is itchy...poor

guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if anything else

was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2, artichoke

extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something or that

he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that out. He

has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic stuff, and

nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN! if we need

to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn, stool test,

OAT, metabolic panel....

Any ideas?

[Guest guest]

Our son did not tolerate DMSA do to the sulfur. He had a lot of the same

symptoms your son did. Also he begged us to stop because he was so depressed.

We are now trying something new developed by Dr. Isaac Eliaz.

________________________________

From: G <luckylot@...>

Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 7:37:05 AM

Subject: [ ] Seriously losing it, need help with 2 year old

We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to prevent

these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that had

everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues. We

still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps (hunger?

growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale diarrhea,

he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder and aloe

vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an antimicrobial,

so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting them on his

feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back to 10) and

today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been mostly gone

since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is itchy...poor

guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if anything else

was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2, artichoke

extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something or that

he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that out. He

has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic stuff, and

nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN! if we need

to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn, stool test,

OAT, metabolic panel....

Any ideas?

[Guest guest]

We haven't chelated in weeks due to our stomach bug and it's actually getting

worse, not better, while avoiding chelation.

>

> Our son did not tolerate DMSA do to the sulfur. He had a lot of the same

> symptoms your son did. Also he begged us to stop because he was so depressed.

> We are now trying something new developed by Dr. Isaac Eliaz.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: G <luckylot@...>

>

> Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 7:37:05 AM

> Subject: [ ] Seriously losing it, need help with 2 year old

>

>

> We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

> antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

> chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

> SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have

a

> long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

>

>

> In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent

> these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

> supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

> nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared

to

> prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

> counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

> definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

> swings.

>

> Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that had

> everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues. We

> still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

> teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

> He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

> smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his

older

> brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we

say

> black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we

hand

> it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

> that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

> CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

> him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

> especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

> illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

> warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

> to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too

long

> and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and

I

> am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

>

> He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger?

> growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea,

> he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder and

aloe

> vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

> probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

> fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape

of

> his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and

he

> doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

> sure this can't be helping matters.

>

>

> At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial,

> so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting them on his

> feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back to 10) and

> today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been mostly

gone

> since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor

> guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if anything

else

> was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2, artichoke

> extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something or that

> he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that out. He

> has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic stuff, and

> nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN! if we

need

> to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn, stool test,

> OAT, metabolic panel....

>

> Any ideas?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, I'm so sorry to hear your 2 year old is having a hard time and you are

struggling to help him. Can you pinpoint when it got worse? We had a bout of

horrid behavior this summer and I still don't know what happened. I *think* my

son's improvements (from aggression and major agitation of all sorts) were due

to adding cranberry juice (in the form of jello) and N-Acetylcysteine for a

short time. So it was possibly a problem of bacteria and/or not enough

glutathione.

What I learned recently is that there is a balancing act that needs to be

managed between yeast and bacteria treatment. Apparently, you can treat yeast

too much and end up with a bacteria problem that manifests as aggression? at

least in some.

I have also noticed for myself and others in my family, that chelating makes

phenol intolerance WAY worse. I think it is because mercury interferes with the

sulfation processes that break down the phenols while it is moving and coming

out. I don't know the exact science of it, but I can say for sure phenol

intolerance IS related to mercury chelation for our family. I have decided that

we will avoid phenols as much as possible when we chelate and that epsom salt

baths will be our main method of replenishing sulfates (to help with the little

phenol we do get) instead of getting an enzyme product like No-Fenol.

I think you had a good instinct with stopping his supplements. Many times I

have backed down from lots of supplements to just Vit C (we use amla) and

magnesium. I think you should consider taking out GSE altogether, at least at

this time, because of the phenol in it and because it is one of the supplements

that is suspect for intolerance.

The fact that your 2 year old is hungry all the time seems that he has an

ongoing food intolerance problem. Have you removed gluten? The hunger and

sound sensitivity and sensory issues have been related to gluten/wheat

intolerance in our family. Gluten makes my hair feel like it is poking my face,

it also gives me little shooting pains in my eyes if that makes any sense. It

causes the sound sensitivity and sensory issues in my boys. It also makes them

extremely impulsive, which is so irritating!

I would add or increase zinc to see if that helps him smell and taste food

better and therefore increase his preferences as far as food selection. If zinc

helps, try to back off the carbs he is eating and get more vegetables in (like

using attractive trays of all kinds of vegetables with hummus or something).

I think constipation is a sign of mineral deficiency. I have no reference or

proof of this, but it seems the body is trying to get something from the stool

and is therefore sucking it dry trying to get more from of something from it. I

would try increasing magnesium with taurine (for better absorption), along with

giving high vitamin C and probiotics.

Hope that helped some!

Liz

>

> We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

>

> In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

>

> Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that had

everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues. We

still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

>

> He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

>

> At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

>

> Any ideas?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Increase the GSE. He got worse when you lowered it. Constipation and nasty

behavior are often yeast. This really sounds like yeast.

>

> We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

>

> In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

>

> Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that had

everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues. We

still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

>

> He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

>

> At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

>

> Any ideas?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

If your two year old hasn't been vaccinated, why is it that he is being

chelated? Also, has he had many antibiotics without probiotics afterwards to

suspect candida overgrowth? What a blessing that he has regular bowels at two

and speaking! What is " borderline " mercury toxcicity? Have you sent the

fractioned porphyrins test to confirm mercury before chelating? He may just not

be feeling well and wanting your affection. Maybe check his D3 levels to see if

he has too little or too much. D3 is one of those that can be toxic if given

too much and would produce symptoms as well.

Just my thoughts! A hot Epson Bath for mom and a great nights sleep with

some time for mom always helps me to have more clarity.

>

> We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

>

> In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

>

> Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that had

everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues. We

still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

>

> He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

>

> At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

>

> Any ideas?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Investigate yeast and adrenals. He got worse when you decrease yeast protocol

so begin there. Illnesses will tax the adrenals so look into getting some ACE

on board. Reminds me of my 2 year old unvaxed kiddo. He is sweet with enough

ACE, yeast protocol, and he eats well with enough zinc on board.

Tressie

>

> We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

>

> In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

>

> Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that had

everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues. We

still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

>

> He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

>

> At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

>

> Any ideas?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Same thing happens here. My 2 year old isn't ASD, but if I skip a week of

chelation his mood will begin to decline even with the ACE and yeast protcol on

board. We haven't taken many break since I started chelating him, but I notice

it anytime we do.

Tressie

> >

> > Our son did not tolerate DMSA do to the sulfur. He had a lot of the same

> > symptoms your son did. Also he begged us to stop because he was so

depressed.

> > We are now trying something new developed by Dr. Isaac Eliaz.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: G <luckylot@>

> >

> > Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 7:37:05 AM

> > Subject: [ ] Seriously losing it, need help with 2 year old

> >

> >

> > We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

> > antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

> > chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of

his

> > SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still

have a

> > long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

> >

> >

> > In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent

> > these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

> > supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I

was

> > nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that

appeared to

> > prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

> > counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

> > definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and

mood

> > swings.

> >

> > Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that

had

> > everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues.

We

> > still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

> > teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving

HORRIBLY.

> > He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

> > smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his

older

> > brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we

say

> > black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we

hand

> > it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

> > that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

> > CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to

feed

> > him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like

this,

> > especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since

this

> > illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods

and

> > warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like

me

> > to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too

long

> > and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly

and I

> > am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's

awful.

> >

> > He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger?

> > growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea,

> > he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder and

aloe

> > vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

> > probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

> > fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape

of

> > his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes)

and he

> > doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

> > sure this can't be helping matters.

> >

> >

> > At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial,

> > so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting them on

his

> > feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back to 10)

and

> > today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been mostly

gone

> > since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor

> > guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if anything

else

> > was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2, artichoke

> > extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something or

that

> > he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that out.

He

> > has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic stuff,

and

> > nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN! if we

need

> > to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn, stool test,

> > OAT, metabolic panel....

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately while vaccines are the most common cause of merc toxicity in

children they aren't the only source of merc. My 5 year old was diagnosed with

low to moderate functioning Autism and was never vaxed.

I was not vaxed while preg, not teeth work while preg.

I do have a few amalgam fillings and we lived in MN (state with highest Autism

prevelance rate in the US, can you say environment?).

Another interesting fact is that he had only one round of antibiotics in his

life after the age of two and after he was well into Autism. He is a yeast/gut/

sulfur kid.

We have done almost 50 rounds of chelation and he is a huge responder. He was

recently reevaluated and no longer meets the diagnostic criteria for autism.

I do believe vaxes are a crime against our children and I am thankful to this

day that I had found info against vaxing prior to the birth of my obviously merc

sensitive son or I am sure we would have be beginning this journey with a

vegetable. But make no mistake unvaxed child may still desperately need to be

chelated.

Tressie

> >

> > We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

> >

> > In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

> >

> > Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that

had everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues.

We still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

> >

> > He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

> >

> > At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm thinking yeast and other bad bacteria overgrowth.  Symptomatically, that's

what seems to be going on.  I would increase GSE and drop anything yeast and

it's buddies would like. 

 

Remember yeast and mercury like each other and they protect each other so if you

quit treating one, they both seem to intensify symptomatically.  Going off your

yeast protocol while you had the intestinal bug would give yeast a change to

flourish.  You may also have altered your diet to more 'comfort' foods that

contain more carbs.  That would also encourage the yeast. 

 

I'm thinking if you increase the GSE you'll get a possible die off reaction and

then more stable behavior possibly.

 

Sorry.  It sounds like you've had a long haul. 

Tressler

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[Guest guest]

Treating for parasites before, during and after a full moon is a good way to

kick them, it is during the full moon that they lay eggs. Sure u hit them hard w

3 rounds in a row, way to go.

Isa

Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

[ ] Re: Seriously losing it, need help with 2 year old

I'm not sure that parasite cleanses every 6 months is enough if he truly has

them. Itchy bottom is a symptom of parasites, as is constant hunger, tummy

aches (and gurgling), constipation.

We've had parasites even when the gastro tests turned up negative, as evidenced

by the parasite I scooped out and took to the doctor for confirmation after

receiving a negative test. Doc gave 2 rounds of Rx but then believed the issue

was well treated. Symptoms persisted.

Pin-X or Reese's seems to work for about 2 weeks, then I assume that more eggs

have hatched because the problem re-occurs. After the 2 rounds of Rx I treated

with Pin-X every 2 weeks for 3 rounds in a row and then saw improvement. I was

fanatical about washing the sheets during that time as well, as well as frequent

hand washing in very warm water, nails clipped short, etc. I think our issue is

resolved but it did take time. If I see itchy bottom symptoms again this is the

first thing I will think of.

Deb

>

> We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

>

> In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

>

> Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that had

everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues. We

still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

>

> He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

>

> At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

>

> Any ideas?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tressie,

We notice this with both kids too.

> > >

> > > Our son did not tolerate DMSA do to the sulfur. He had a lot of the same

> > > symptoms your son did. Also he begged us to stop because he was so

depressed.

> > > We are now trying something new developed by Dr. Isaac Eliaz.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: G <luckylot@>

> > >

> > > Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 7:37:05 AM

> > > Subject: [ ] Seriously losing it, need help with 2 year old

> > >

> > >

> > > We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes,

natural

> > > antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

> > > chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of

his

> > > SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still

have a

> > > long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

> > >

> > >

> > > In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent

> > > these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

> > > supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I

was

> > > nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that

appeared to

> > > prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet

the

> > > counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

> > > definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and

mood

> > > swings.

> > >

> > > Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that

had

> > > everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues.

We

> > > still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

> > > teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving

HORRIBLY.

> > > He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't

even

> > > smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his

older

> > > brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if

we say

> > > black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and

we hand

> > > it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then

cries

> > > that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

> > > CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to

feed

> > > him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like

this,

> > > especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since

this

> > > illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods

and

> > > warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't

like me

> > > to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting

too long

> > > and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly

and I

> > > am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's

awful.

> > >

> > > He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger?

> > > growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea,

> > > he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder and

aloe

> > > vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

> > > probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color

is

> > > fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the

shape of

> > > his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes)

and he

> > > doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness.

I'm

> > > sure this can't be helping matters.

> > >

> > >

> > > At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial,

> > > so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting them on

his

> > > feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back to 10)

and

> > > today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been mostly

gone

> > > since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor

> > > guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else

> > > was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2, artichoke

> > > extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something or

that

> > > he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that out.

He

> > > has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic stuff,

and

> > > nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN! if we

need

> > > to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn, stool

test,

> > > OAT, metabolic panel....

> > >

> > > Any ideas?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

> , I'm so sorry to hear your 2 year old is having a hard time and you

are struggling to help him. Can you pinpoint when it got worse?

**Not quite, he has always been a difficult personality, it just seems to have

gotten worse, maybe since molar teething. I only started adding things to

combat the moods after they started, so there was nothing new that I can think

of.

We had a bout of horrid behavior this summer and I still don't know what

happened. I *think* my son's improvements (from aggression and major agitation

of all sorts) were due to adding cranberry juice (in the form of jello) and

N-Acetylcysteine for a short time. So it was possibly a problem of bacteria

and/or not enough glutathione.

>

> What I learned recently is that there is a balancing act that needs to be

managed between yeast and bacteria treatment. Apparently, you can treat yeast

too much and end up with a bacteria problem that manifests as aggression? at

least in some.

**I actually did cut back on GSE and increased the OLE and OoO a bit. I was

thinking the same thing, because it actually happened in both kids to some

extent.

> I have also noticed for myself and others in my family, that chelating makes

phenol intolerance WAY worse. I think it is because mercury interferes with the

sulfation processes that break down the phenols while it is moving and coming

out. I don't know the exact science of it, but I can say for sure phenol

intolerance IS related to mercury chelation for our family. I have decided that

we will avoid phenols as much as possible when we chelate and that epsom salt

baths will be our main method of replenishing sulfates (to help with the little

phenol we do get) instead of getting an enzyme product like No-Fenol.

>

> I think you had a good instinct with stopping his supplements. Many times I

have backed down from lots of supplements to just Vit C (we use amla) and

magnesium. I think you should consider taking out GSE altogether, at least at

this time, because of the phenol in it and because it is one of the supplements

that is suspect for intolerance.

**I had stopped the zinc for about a week prior to this, just to be sure it

wasn't too much for him (using Andy Cutler protocol for supplementing and

chelation) so perhaps that was the problem. I just added it back in today, at

the previous dose, so that we can get back to chelation.

> The fact that your 2 year old is hungry all the time seems that he has an

ongoing food intolerance problem. Have you removed gluten? The hunger and

sound sensitivity and sensory issues have been related to gluten/wheat

intolerance in our family. Gluten makes my hair feel like it is poking my face,

it also gives me little shooting pains in my eyes if that makes any sense. It

causes the sound sensitivity and sensory issues in my boys. It also makes them

extremely impulsive, which is so irritating!

**He has been casein and gluten free since he started eating foods, and actually

casein free even while I was nursing. He got gluten when I was nursing, but

started gluten free when he started eating solids. So he has been gluten free

for over a year now.

> I would add or increase zinc to see if that helps him smell and taste food

better and therefore increase his preferences as far as food selection. If zinc

helps, try to back off the carbs he is eating and get more vegetables in (like

using attractive trays of all kinds of vegetables with hummus or something).

**Just added the zinc back in this morning. He doesn't get carbs with the

exception of the occasional rice flour is VERY small amounts in muffins once in

a while. He fights veggies REALLY hard, I try to get as much as I can in him

all day, smoothies and home made dips and dressings, he's a hard one! My other

son loves veggies, no fights there, lol. I even try to give them snacks of raw

veggies, I make kale chips, I hide veggies in muffins and pancakes....

> I think constipation is a sign of mineral deficiency. I have no reference or

proof of this, but it seems the body is trying to get something from the stool

and is therefore sucking it dry trying to get more from of something from it. I

would try increasing magnesium with taurine (for better absorption), along with

giving high vitamin C and probiotics.

**he was just sick with a stomach virus a week ago, so I think they might have

been related, because as of right now, he's back to normal in the BM area.

Here's to hoping it stays that way. I gave him back the magnesium the other

day. I had also increased his aloe juice a little too. I've tried taurine in

the past a few times and never saw any changes in him. We have to avoid vit C

because of oxalates, so we use astaxanthin instead which is a VERY high

antioxidant, 400x more potent than vitamin E.

> Hope that helped some!

*Thanks again Liz!

>

>

> >

> > We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

> >

> > In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

> >

> > Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that

had everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues.

We still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

> >

> > He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

> >

> > At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Before reading your response Jan, I went back to giving him the OoO orally and

it seems like we might have had a bit of die off, but today he woke in a MUCH

better mood. So far he is playing with his brother and using the potty well,

still a feisty little thing, but doing much better. I think his problem is

bacteria actually. When he had to go in the hospital once over a year ago, they

gave him vanco and his then-constant red ring finally went away. Since then we

have gotten the ring under control with a combo of GSE and OoO with high doses

of biotin. Then since then, we have turned his ever-mushy stool to very normal

by going low oxalate, that has been an amazing change for us! The ring only

seems to show back up when he appears to have a flare of either yeast or

bacteria. One other thing I noticed recently is that a wet-dog smell they get

when they have wet hair is gone, at least for now. He has ALWAYS had that, my

other son still has it.

> >

> > We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

> >

> > In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

> >

> > Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that

had everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues.

We still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

> >

> > He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

> >

> > At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Vaccines aren't the only exposure to heavy metals like mercury. I have 7

amalgam fillings which I am sure started them off with a nice dose of mercury in

utero, among other exposures that I wasn't aware of pre-baby like seafood,

pesticides, my own exposures through my mother who is filled with amalgam

fillings and was a photographer for eyars, developing her own photos (mercury

exposure...), etc. Basically, I passed a lot of it on to them.

He only had antibiotics once in his life and we combated that experience with

hid doses of probiotics. The heavy metals are the cause for yeast and bacteria.

When I say borderline mercury toxicity, I am referring to the way the test is

read, he didn't meet the counting rules persay, but I can tell from the test

that he is still mercury toxic. My guess would be that if I were tot est him

again now, after 19 rounds of chelation, he would probably meet the counting

rules. We can also tell by his changes during chelation, that it is doing

something for him.

I have not checked his D3 levels, and I do think we should. We had our other

son tested recently and he was in the normal range, but on the low side, even

though we were giving him D3 daily. We also give K2 to help with the absorption

of the D3.

How funny, that is exactly what I did after writing my thread, I jumped in a hot

bath full of epsom salts, lol.

> >

> > We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

> >

> > In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

> >

> > Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that

had everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues.

We still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

> >

> > He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

> >

> > At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tressie. I have some ACE here and have been experimenting with giving

him one cap full, is it possible that he needs more? At only 26 pounds? I

didn't give him any today and surprisingly, he is doing really well. Beetter

than any day in the past 3 weeks, so far. I have also tried GABA 200mg. I need

a LOT of GABA to make a difference in myself, like 800mg or more. I also tried

Ashwagandha for a while...not much change there either, but I read that if you

take more than 35mg in a day, you can actually make adrenal problems worse. Not

sure how true that is.

> >

> > We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

> >

> > In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

> >

> > Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that

had everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues.

We still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

> >

> > He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

> >

> > At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

He only had the itchy bottom for half of a day and it was timed with our

increase in the OoO (after having changed our dose and application) so I think

it was our die off sign, because now he is doing so much better. He is

communicating well again, if not clearer, he is more patient, stopping himself

before tantruming (part of the time), playing nice with his brother and he just

went on his potty totally alone, pulling pants down and up all on his own,

something he NEVER does!!

> >

> > We have been doing biomed, inclusive of GFCF and LOD diets, enzymes, natural

antimicrobials of all sorts, parasite cleanses every 6 months, Andy Cutler

chelation and even homeopathy with our five year old for years, because of his

SPD and anxiety symptoms. Overall, he's doing much better, but we still have a

long road, anyway, he's not the problem.

> >

> > In the process of learning about our 5 year old, we have been trying to

prevent these issues in our two and a half year old by not vaccinating, using

supplementation and diets (he had eczema reactions to dairy and soy when I was

nursing him) and most recently, chelation, based on a hair test that appeared to

prove him to also be borderline mercury poisoned. He didn't quite meet the

counting rules, but his essential elements were pretty skewed. He most

definitely has gut issues, yeast and bacteria, he has severe bloating and mood

swings.

> >

> > Our whole house just experienced a major stomach bug a few weeks ago that

had everyone vomiting and the whole thing, but no fevers, just stomach issues.

We still don't feel entirely right when we eat. Since then (along with molar

teething) our two and a half year old has suddenly started behaving HORRIBLY.

He is having tantrums like I have never seen before, it's like he can't even

smile anymore, he screams about everything, takes everything away from his older

brother and runs, just to be mean, is completely and utterly defiant, if we say

black, he's going to say white, if he wants something (IE - a drink) and we hand

it to him he freaks and throws it acting like he doesn't want it, then cries

that he wants it. He is clingy and won't play on his own, he is hungry

CONSTANTLY, like every hour all day, but fights me on everything I try to feed

him, if it's not snacky. He has always had a difficult personality like this,

especially when sick, but I am feeling like something isn't right. Since this

illness, he has also started acting a little sensory defensive, like foods and

warm water are too HOT, loud sounds bothering him slightly, he doesn't like me

to touch him. If this is the illness we just had it seems to be lasting too long

and honestly, I am losing the ability to cope. I am now crying regularly and I

am not a crier. I just can't enjoy my kids or my life like this, it's awful.

> >

> > He has also been saying his belly hurts when he wakes up and after naps

(hunger? growth spurt?). While he was sick with horrible burning and very pale

diarrhea, he started holding it in causing constipation. We gave him oxy powder

and aloe vera juice (which he gets daily anyway) plus we give him fiber with his

probiotics at bedtime. Now the consistency is more normal and the color is

fine, but I can tell that there is still a little constipation, by the shape of

his BMs (like little balls clumped together at the start of it sometimes) and he

doesn't seem to be going as much (volume) as he was before the illness. I'm

sure this can't be helping matters.

> >

> > At first I was concerned that maybe he was being irritated by an

antimicrobial, so instead of giving him 3 drops of OoO orally, I started putting

them on his feet and I cut back on his GSE (was giving about 15 drops, cut back

to 10) and today he is WORSE plus he has the red anal ring back which had been

mostly gone since the illness went away. Today he is crying that his hiney is

itchy...poor guy. I hate this!! I even stopped most of his vitamins to see if

anything else was irritating him (except for his vit D, magnesium citrate, K2,

artichoke extract). Now, I am concerned that maybe he is deficient in something

or that he needs something more, but I don't know what or how to figure that

out. He has had bloodwork done recently along with a lead test, just basic

stuff, and nothing was really off there. I can make an appointment at our DAN!

if we need to test something, does anyone have any suggestions? I am torn,

stool test, OAT, metabolic panel....

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't make high brine sea salt. I purchase it. The brand is " Celtic Sea Salt " .

You can google it or go to one of my websites and click on the link there.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

>

> I'm curious about how to make and use a high brine sea salt. I use himalayan

sea salt with my children every day, on their food. I tried adding a little to

their vitamins when they were sick too, lol. Just my attempt at giving them

more of it, lol.

>

> I don't give him vit E, because of a sensitivity to soy so I use astaxanthin

which is 400 times more potent than vit E (in antioxidants). We use magnesium to

the point of loose BMs, then I back off. And yes, you are right, he also gets D

and K2 daily.

>

> What is interesting about my crying (which never happens) is that I have

recently started taking all the same vitamins my kids take, because I am

preparing to have my amalgams removed and then I will be starting chelation

also, so I am following Andy Cutler's recommendations now.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

> >

> >

> > Noise sensitivity and constipation can both be signs of magnesium

deficiency. Magnesium deficiency also tends to leave the body too acid. It is

possible that contributed to the sore bottom. In case you don't already know

it: Magnesium is best absorbed when taken with calcium and calcium is best

absorbed when taken with several other things (D, K..and I think one other

thing). The ideal ratio is supposedly 2 to 1 (though I have also heard this may

vary from some), but I can't remember which mineral is supposed to be twice as

much.