Re: OCD supplements for non-mercury boy?

[Guest guest]

If it's PANDAS, try OLE, and probiotics (2 hours apart) to replace good gut

bacteria.

If they have any health insurance, she can see the doctor about PANDAS.

>

> I have a friend whose 10 yo boy has bad OCD. He was never vaccinated, has no

amalgams, and has no autism symptoms.

> I've told her it may be a nutrient problem but am unsure what to recommend.

They are very strapped for cash & I know she wouldn't be into a lot of

supplements, but what would be the best (low-priced? multiple for him and maybe

one or two other important supplements.

> They have been on the typical American diet, but that may improve soon as her

husband was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer and will be unemployed (he's

a self-employed laborer) for a while. The boy has been like this for a good

while, and it's only getting worse.

> thanks,

>

>

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I wouldn't rule out mercury without a hair test and counting rules. Does/did

the mother have any mercury amalgam dental fillings? Did she receive any

vaccines? Mercury passes the placenta. Do they live down-wind from a

coal-fired power plant? What about other toxic metals? Diet would be a good

place to start, more whole foods and less processed stuff (particularly less

white flour, white bread, white sugar, sodas).

S S

OCD supplements for non-mercury boy?

Posted by: " jtmk98.535597 " lysva29798-dnttrst@... jtmk98.535597

Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:22 pm (PST)

I have a friend whose 10 yo boy has bad OCD. He was never vaccinated, has no

amalgams, and has no autism symptoms.

I've told her it may be a nutrient problem but am unsure what to recommend. They

are very strapped for cash & I know she wouldn't be into a lot of supplements,

but what would be the best (low-priced? multiple for him and maybe one or two

other important supplements.

They have been on the typical American diet, but that may improve soon as her

husband was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer and will be unemployed (he's

a self-employed laborer) for a while. The boy has been like this for a good

while, and it's only getting worse.

thanks,

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,

My son has high functioning autism & strep issues. He had his last vac. at 18

mos & he's

11. We  shows trace amounts of mercury on hair tests which doesn't mean we're

not retaining more. The porphryn test will show if he's retaining or excreting.

I had a lot of fillings while carrying him. Even if the child has not been

vaccinated

he could have low levels from his environment, his mom, or even regular food.

I read HFS - high fructose corn syrup can have mercury in it from the

manufacturing

process. And add strep issues.

Kathy

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 Re: OCD supplements for non-mercury boy?

2/20

 

,

 

I have often wondered about mercury for my son, but all of his blood work has

tested negative for both mercury and lead. I talked with the pediatrician about

a hair test but he felt that exposure would have been so many years ago that it

would be long gone by now, especiallly in the light of not having any traces in

the blood.

 

My son, now 17, has had no fillings but I have a lot. In fact, while pregnant

with him, I had a filling done as well as a gum abscess which was treated in the

dentist office. As a child he had a direct exposure to a broken thermometer at

his grandparents house, which I didn't know about until 2 years later. He had

all vaccines until the last one which reacted so badly. He has severe autism;

originally diagnoses with autism(atypical) but continued to regress until the

diagnosis was modified. He has had OCD for many years, but he has had several

bouts of strep and a lifetime of ear infections, sinus infections and

antibiotics.

 

Does this sound like I need to seriously consider mercury, even though the tests

have come up negative several times? I would like to help him if I can.

 

Thanks for your insight.

 

D.

From: Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@ excite.com>

Subject: [ ] Re: OCD supplements for non-mercury boy?

autism treatment

Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 8:31 PM

 

,

I wouldn't rule out mercury without a hair test and counting rules. Does/did the

mother have any mercury amalgam dental fillings? Did she receive any vaccines?

Mercury passes the placenta. Do they live down-wind from a coal-fired power

plant? What about other toxic metals? Diet would be a good place to start, more

whole foods and less processed stuff (particularly less white flour, white

bread, white sugar, sodas).

S S

OCD supplements for non-mercury boy?

Posted by: " jtmk98.535597 " lysva29798-dnttrst@ spamarrest. com jtmk98.535597

Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:22 pm (PST)

I have a friend whose 10 yo boy has bad OCD. He was never vaccinated, has no

amalgams, and has no autism symptoms.

I've told her it may be a nutrient problem but am unsure what to recommend. They

are very strapped for cash & I know she wouldn't be into a lot of supplements,

but what would be the best (low-priced? multiple for him and maybe one or two

other important supplements.

They have been on the typical American diet, but that may improve soon as her

husband was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer and will be unemployed (he's

a self-employed laborer) for a while. The boy has been like this for a good

while, and it's only getting worse.

thanks,

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I second looking at PANDAS. There is someone on gfcfkids group who knows a

lot about it. She also posts on mb12 valtrex

>

> I have a friend whose 10 yo boy has bad OCD. He was never vaccinated, has no

amalgams, and has no autism symptoms.

> I've told her it may be a nutrient problem but am unsure what to recommend.

They are very strapped for cash & I know she wouldn't be into a lot of

supplements, but what would be the best (low-priced? multiple for him and maybe

one or two other important supplements.

> They have been on the typical American diet, but that may improve soon as her

husband was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer and will be unemployed (he's

a self-employed laborer) for a while. The boy has been like this for a good

while, and it's only getting worse.

> thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

I second looking at PANDAS. There is someone on gfcfkids group who knows a

lot about it. She also posts on mb12 valtrex

>

> I have a friend whose 10 yo boy has bad OCD. He was never vaccinated, has no

amalgams, and has no autism symptoms.

> I've told her it may be a nutrient problem but am unsure what to recommend.

They are very strapped for cash & I know she wouldn't be into a lot of

supplements, but what would be the best (low-priced? multiple for him and maybe

one or two other important supplements.

> They have been on the typical American diet, but that may improve soon as her

husband was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer and will be unemployed (he's

a self-employed laborer) for a while. The boy has been like this for a good

while, and it's only getting worse.

> thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is a sign. Everyone should be excreting mercury on a regular basis because

we are all exposed on a regular basis. No escaping it.

>

>

>

> From: Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@ excite.com>

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> Subject: [ ] Re: OCD supplements for non-mercury boy?

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> I wouldn't rule out mercury without a hair test and counting rules. Does/did

the mother have any mercury amalgam dental fillings? Did she receive any

vaccines? Mercury passes the placenta. Do they live down-wind from a coal-fired

power plant? What about other toxic metals? Diet would be a good place to start,

more whole foods and less processed stuff (particularly less white flour, white

bread, white sugar, sodas).

>

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> S S

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> OCD supplements for non-mercury boy?

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> Posted by: " jtmk98.535597 " lysva29798-dnttrst@ spamarrest. com jtmk98.535597

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> Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:22 pm (PST)

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> I have a friend whose 10 yo boy has bad OCD. He was never vaccinated, has no

amalgams, and has no autism symptoms.

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>

> I've told her it may be a nutrient problem but am unsure what to recommend.

They are very strapped for cash & I know she wouldn't be into a lot of

supplements, but what would be the best (low-priced? multiple for him and maybe

one or two other important supplements.

>

>

>

> They have been on the typical American diet, but that may improve soon as her

husband was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer and will be unemployed (he's

a self-employed laborer) for a while. The boy has been like this for a good

while, and it's only getting worse.

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Did the DAN doctor explain why he is not properly excreting metals/toxins?

Regards,

http://www.stopcallingitautism.com/autismimmunedysfunction.php

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>

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> From: Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@ excite.com>

>

>

>

> Subject: [ ] Re: OCD supplements for non-mercury boy?

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> autism treatment

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> Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 8:31 PM

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> ,

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>

> I wouldn't rule out mercury without a hair test and counting rules. Does/did

the mother have any mercury amalgam dental fillings? Did she receive any

vaccines? Mercury passes the placenta. Do they live down-wind from a coal-fired

power plant? What about other toxic metals? Diet would be a good place to start,

more whole foods and less processed stuff (particularly less white flour, white

bread, white sugar, sodas).

>

>

>

> S S

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> OCD supplements for non-mercury boy?

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> Posted by: " jtmk98.535597 " lysva29798-dnttrst@ spamarrest. com jtmk98.535597

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> Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:22 pm (PST)

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>

> I have a friend whose 10 yo boy has bad OCD. He was never vaccinated, has no

amalgams, and has no autism symptoms.

>

>

>

> I've told her it may be a nutrient problem but am unsure what to recommend.

They are very strapped for cash & I know she wouldn't be into a lot of

supplements, but what would be the best (low-priced? multiple for him and maybe

one or two other important supplements.

>

>

>

> They have been on the typical American diet, but that may improve soon as her

husband was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer and will be unemployed (he's

a self-employed laborer) for a while. The boy has been like this for a good

while, and it's only getting worse.

>

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> thanks,

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People with healthy immune systems excrete mercury and other toxins on a regular

basis. Children with autism don't because they have dysfunctional immune

systems.

Regards,

http://www.stopcallingitautism.com/autismimmunedysfunction.php

> >

> >

> >

> > From: Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@ excite.com>

> >

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> >

> > Subject: [ ] Re: OCD supplements for non-mercury boy?

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> > Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 8:31 PM

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> > I wouldn't rule out mercury without a hair test and counting rules. Does/did

the mother have any mercury amalgam dental fillings? Did she receive any

vaccines? Mercury passes the placenta. Do they live down-wind from a coal-fired

power plant? What about other toxic metals? Diet would be a good place to start,

more whole foods and less processed stuff (particularly less white flour, white

bread, white sugar, sodas).

> >

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> > S S

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> > OCD supplements for non-mercury boy?

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> > Posted by: " jtmk98.535597 " lysva29798-dnttrst@ spamarrest. com jtmk98.535597

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> > Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:22 pm (PST)

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> > I have a friend whose 10 yo boy has bad OCD. He was never vaccinated, has no

amalgams, and has no autism symptoms.

> >

> >

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> > I've told her it may be a nutrient problem but am unsure what to recommend.

They are very strapped for cash & I know she wouldn't be into a lot of

supplements, but what would be the best (low-priced? multiple for him and maybe

one or two other important supplements.

> >

> >

> >

> > They have been on the typical American diet, but that may improve soon as

her husband was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer and will be unemployed

(he's a self-employed laborer) for a while. The boy has been like this for a

good while, and it's only getting worse.

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Re: OCD supplements for non-mercury boy?

Posted by: " drissia wright " ritzywright@... ritzywright

Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:50 pm (PST)

,

I have often wondered about mercury for my son, but all of his blood work has

tested negative for both mercury and lead.

*Blood work is useless for chronic mercury and lead toxicity. They don't stay

in the blood long. The lead quickly moves into the brain and bones and the

mercury goes into various organs.

I talked with the pediatrician about a hair test but he felt that exposure

would have been so many years ago that it would be long gone by now, especiallly

in the light of not having any traces in the blood.

*Hence the counting rules for the DDI hair elements test. You can order one

without a doc through DLS (Direct Lab Services). If you mention this list

they'll give you a discount. If you post results here we can help interpret.

Mercury causes disordered mineral transport which is what the counting rules

looks for.

My son, now 17, has had no fillings but I have a lot. In fact, while pregnant

with him, I had a filling done as well as a gum abscess which was treated in the

dentist office. As a child he had a direct exposure to a broken thermometer at

his grandparents house, which I didn't know about until 2 years later. He had

all vaccines until the last one which reacted so badly. He has severe autism;

originally diagnoses with autism(atypical) but continued to regress until the

diagnosis was modified. He has had OCD for many years, but he has had several

bouts of strep and a lifetime of ear infections, sinus infections and

antibiotics.

Does this sound like I need to seriously consider mercury, even though the tests

have come up negative several times? I would like to help him if I can.

*Seriously consider a DDI hair elements test. It will help you determine what

you're dealing with whether mercury or other toxic metals.

Thanks for your insight.

D.

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Kath,

Was it a DDI hair elements test? Have you applied the counting rules? Check

www.danasview.net for info about dealing with strep.

S S

Re: OCD supplements for non-mercury boy?

Posted by: " KathyB " calicocat477@... calicocat477@...

Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:02 pm (PST)

,

My son has high functioning autism & strep issues. He had his last vac. at 18

mos & he's

11. We shows trace amounts of mercury on hair tests which doesn't mean we're

not retaining more. The porphryn test will show if he's retaining or excreting.

I had a lot of fillings while carrying him. Even if the child has not been

vaccinated

he could have low levels from his environment, his mom, or even regular food.

I read HFS - high fructose corn syrup can have mercury in it from the

manufacturing

process. And add strep issues.

Kath

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> I have a friend whose 10 yo boy has bad OCD. He was never vaccinated, has no

amalgams, and has no autism symptoms.

At my house, OCD was caused by viruses, yeast, and B12 deficiency.

For some kids, it is caused by strep/PANDAS.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> What the best way or at least a way to start improving the immune system?

For my son, ALA chelation, biotin, vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin D, and lysine.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I either cured my son of OCD or the symptoms have been dormant for about 3

years. At age 7, right after we moved to a new state, he began the " counting

version " of OCD. Counting even your syllables and wanting an imaginary toggle

switch to land on the 'right' at the end of each sentence or else he felt very

uncomfortable. (The toggle switch he imagined toggled left-to-right with each

syllable). He even would pull up his socks 7 times, alternating sides for each

pull. doing this many times/day. Dozens of bizarre habits including making a

beeping noise (like a censoring bleep) for 7 seconds if you said the number '4'

(which he considered to be evil because he's read about that being the case in

Asia). He would replace it with his 7-second bleep, right to your face. Yep. I

used to tell my friend, over the phone, there goes my beeping son (she could

hear him doing it in the background). With all of the strangeness of OCD, this

one was comedic relief after a while. Ever find yourself laughing really hard

because you're borderline feeling insane?? Yah, that kind of laughter.

ANYWAY, I digress. We tried Native Remedies products and, at the time, were able

to get direct advice from the doc via email. She apparently was living in

Africa, but who knows. Anyway, she recommended Cognitive Behavior Therapy with

play therapy ... told me to find a local child psych to do this. Then, for

herbals, she recommended Mind Soothe Jr. which was really just St. 's Wort

with passiflora. It helped my son's mood (after about 3 weeks of use), but did

not stop the counting at all. Then, she said to take Native Remedies Nerve

Tonic. His counting stopped the DAY he took it. Amazing. 6 months later she said

try to take him off it. Counting came back that same day. She said try to take

him off of it every 6 months. I did. It took 2 years until I could take him off

of it completely.

Once off of it, he started to develop a syllable tapping habit ... not counting

your syllables, but really just tapping his fingers (alternating fingers on one

hand) for each syllable. But, he was functional (he could hear you whereas he

could not hear you if he was actually counting every syllable). So, I tried to

ignore the tapping thing. Six months later, I brought him to a hypnotist, and

after 2 sessions the tapping habit simply stopped and has never come back.

He is obsessive about screen games (videos), but I don't know too many young

boys who aren't that way. But, he is Aspie-ish, so anything goes with those

hyper-focusing " skills " . He's being treated with neurofeedback and biomedical

interventions and I am seeing improvements in him being able to manage his

emotions better and in being more flexible, less " stuck thinking " . He also seems

to need less sleep (he has always needed way more sleep than most kids his age),

which to me is a sign that his body is healthier.

Oh, the Nerve Tonic is at nativeremedies dot com .

>

> I have a friend whose 10 yo boy has bad OCD. He was never vaccinated, has no

amalgams, and has no autism symptoms.

> I've told her it may be a nutrient problem but am unsure what to recommend.

They are very strapped for cash & I know she wouldn't be into a lot of

supplements, but what would be the best (low-priced? multiple for him and maybe

one or two other important supplements.

> They have been on the typical American diet, but that may improve soon as her

husband was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer and will be unemployed (he's

a self-employed laborer) for a while. The boy has been like this for a good

while, and it's only getting worse.

> thanks,

>

>