Re: OT: naturopathic medicine - opinions

September 29, 2010

Im sure many have had good experiences but this was ours.

I gave up and did it all myself after 4 visits.

It was a bit like seeing a regular Dr.

They would charge for everything.

Give us something to try with little additional information on what to expect.

We would get a reaction - like say a kick up of yeast (this was when we first

entering to this all and didn't have a clue what old kick up yeast.)

Not knowing what was happening and they would either be out of reach or we would

have to pay for an emergency phone call or visit.

I just felt like I was left locked in the dark with no information on how to get

out.

I know realize that some of the stuff is absolutely opposite of what I have

learned since.

This was from a very respected Naturopathic DAN Dr who is on the speaking

circuit of Autism conferences.

I think they can be handy for tests but for us not much more.

I empowered myself through reading lots and many of these and all

the wonderful generous people that are here

going through this together. We have been at this for a few years with A/C

Chelation and having great success.

Im glad that I didn't leave it up to someone else.

If you do use one I strongly advise that you still have a lot of work to do. You

must educate yourself along the way and

don't expect the naturopathic dr to do it for you. They don't have all the

answers or time to teach you.

I guess unless you have a bottomless pocketbook but even then nothing replaces

your time.

you are the strength you are the guide you are the wisdom - your instincts and

only you know your child = lots a love.

Nat Dr. cant give your child that.

Just my 2 cents

Simone F

On 2010-09-29, at 2:37 PM, khieken wrote:

> Hi,

> For those of you who use naturopathic doctors, just wondering your opinions.

Sharing of any positive or negative experiences would be greatly appreciated!

>

> Thanks

>

September 30, 2010

>>Its worth trying some adrenal support, my favourites are Thorne CortRex

(not Cortex) which is Adrenal Cortex Extract with additional supporting

supps and Emergen C SuperGram III which is an awesome B & C multi in mineral

ascorbate form which are especially supportive of adrenals.

CFS will cause Sig IgA to lower which can be helped by Sachromycees

Boulardii, its a good yeast that displaces bad yeast (common in CFS I think) and

address bad gut bacteria, Both available from iherb.com, worth a shot one

bottle of each, cheaper than a consult and I don't think can do any harm.

Hope you feel better soon

Mandi in UK

In a message dated 01/10/2010 01:05:52 GMT Daylight Time,

khieken@... writes:

I thought I might try a naturopathic doc for myself to help with my

chronic fatigue, but I do think I need to chelate myself and detox. Maybe just

looking for an easier answer

September 30, 2010

Sorry, the Cortrex and SuperGram III are from iherb.com, the best Sacc

Boulardii IMO is Kirkmans, its doesn't have a bucket load of fillers like the

other brands

Mandi inUK

In a message dated 01/10/2010 01:37:40 GMT Daylight Time, Mum231ASD@...

writes:

>>Its worth trying some adrenal support, my favourites are Thorne CortRex

(not Cortex) which is Adrenal Cortex Extract with additional supporting

supps and Emergen C SuperGram III which is an awesome B & C multi in mineral

ascorbate form which are especially supportive of adrenals.

CFS will cause Sig IgA to lower which can be helped by Sachromycees

Boulardii, its a good yeast that displaces bad yeast (common in CFS I

think) and

address bad gut bacteria, Both available from iherb.com, worth a shot one

bottle of each, cheaper than a consult and I don't think can do any harm.

September 30, 2010

>>The Nutricology one has been discontinued now but its what I am using.

For yonks I have been hit and miss taking 1 in the morning and feeling a tad

better but not much.

This past weekend I was at a conference, no sleep on the Friday night, took

3 on Saturday morning alongside the Emergen Super Gram III and again 3

caps at 2.00pm, still trying to keep my eyes open as usual at 3.00pm. (Total

1.5 GRAMS of ACE)

However, on Sunday feeling much better (still not much sleep, too many

autism moms to talk to and drink vino with lol) but did the same - 3 in the

morning and 3 at 2.00ish. On Monday I was a completely new woman, I mean

night and day, so I've dropped back to 2 caps in the morning and 2 Super Gram

III x 4 per day and I just feel better every day. My sleep has improved

ten fold in quality, none of the 3.00pm wane in energy, its simply amazing.

My adrenals must have been like dried up raisins, I need to grow them back

to juicy peaches, this has been a long term issue with me, probably 7 years

in the making, I wish I had known years ago that I needed a big kick start

dose

Going to need to switch to the Thorne ACE when my supply runs out, that's

more potent than Nutricology for same mgs, I read 150mg of Thorne will equal

250mg of Nutri, I'll tweek that when I need to

I've always been a quick starter to the day, go like crazy woman and fade

in afternoon, perking up again after 6.00pm type

Other mums I know have been using Thorne CortRex 1-2 in the morning, (this

is ACE with supporting supps) alongside the Super Gram III with very good

effect but they have younger kids and likely haven't been as exhausted from

autism as me, given my lad is nearly 14

Can't wait for tomorrow to see if I feel even better!

HTH

Mandi in UK who should be in bed but is just enjoying feeling GOOD!

In a message dated 01/10/2010 02:50:59 GMT Daylight Time,

khieken@... writes:

Thanks so much for the advice Mandi. I don't have an official diagnosis of

CFS, but could probably fall asleep at any given point of the day, on any

day of the week! Very low energy, since I was a kid. I have tried the

Nutricology ACE, but haven't been consistent with it (too busy working on my

kids.) I also know for sure I have a yeast problem, so these supplements look

very interesting to me.

Have you used them? If so, about how long did it take before you noticed

any effects?

September 30, 2010

Thanks for your thoughtful reply Simone. I understand what you're saying. When

I start to think about how much money, for one thing, this will cost me, I do

hesitate. I have learned a lot here on these boards, so much more than I would

have thought possible. And am helping my kids so much with information I have

gathered here. I thought I might try a naturopathic doc for myself to help with

my chronic fatigue, but I do think I need to chelate myself and detox. Maybe

just looking for an easier answer

>

> > Hi,

> > For those of you who use naturopathic doctors, just wondering your opinions.

Sharing of any positive or negative experiences would be greatly appreciated!

> >

> > Thanks

> >

>

September 30, 2010

Thanks so much for the advice Mandi. I don't have an official diagnosis of CFS,

but could probably fall asleep at any given point of the day, on any day of the

week! Very low energy, since I was a kid. I have tried the Nutricology ACE,

but haven't been consistent with it (too busy working on my kids.) I also know

for sure I have a yeast problem, so these supplements look very interesting to

me.

Have you used them? If so, about how long did it take before you noticed any

effects?

TIA

>

> Sorry, the Cortrex and SuperGram III are from iherb.com, the best Sacc

> Boulardii IMO is Kirkmans, its doesn't have a bucket load of fillers like the

> other brands

>

> Mandi inUK

>

> In a message dated 01/10/2010 01:37:40 GMT Daylight Time, Mum231ASD@...

> writes:

>

> >>Its worth trying some adrenal support, my favourites are Thorne CortRex

> (not Cortex) which is Adrenal Cortex Extract with additional supporting

> supps and Emergen C SuperGram III which is an awesome B & C multi in mineral

> ascorbate form which are especially supportive of adrenals.

>

> CFS will cause Sig IgA to lower which can be helped by Sachromycees

> Boulardii, its a good yeast that displaces bad yeast (common in CFS I

> think) and

> address bad gut bacteria, Both available from iherb.com, worth a shot one

> bottle of each, cheaper than a consult and I don't think can do any harm.

>

October 1, 2010

I will have to look into these supplements. I hope I have such good results!

Thanks

>

> >>The Nutricology one has been discontinued now but its what I am using.

> For yonks I have been hit and miss taking 1 in the morning and feeling a tad

> better but not much.

>

> This past weekend I was at a conference, no sleep on the Friday night, took

> 3 on Saturday morning alongside the Emergen Super Gram III and again 3

> caps at 2.00pm, still trying to keep my eyes open as usual at 3.00pm. (Total

> 1.5 GRAMS of ACE)

>

> However, on Sunday feeling much better (still not much sleep, too many

> autism moms to talk to and drink vino with lol) but did the same - 3 in the

> morning and 3 at 2.00ish. On Monday I was a completely new woman, I mean

> night and day, so I've dropped back to 2 caps in the morning and 2 Super Gram

> III x 4 per day and I just feel better every day. My sleep has improved

> ten fold in quality, none of the 3.00pm wane in energy, its simply amazing.

>

> My adrenals must have been like dried up raisins, I need to grow them back

> to juicy peaches, this has been a long term issue with me, probably 7 years

> in the making, I wish I had known years ago that I needed a big kick start

> dose

>

> Going to need to switch to the Thorne ACE when my supply runs out, that's

> more potent than Nutricology for same mgs, I read 150mg of Thorne will equal

> 250mg of Nutri, I'll tweek that when I need to

>

> I've always been a quick starter to the day, go like crazy woman and fade

> in afternoon, perking up again after 6.00pm type

>

> Other mums I know have been using Thorne CortRex 1-2 in the morning, (this

> is ACE with supporting supps) alongside the Super Gram III with very good

> effect but they have younger kids and likely haven't been as exhausted from

> autism as me, given my lad is nearly 14

>

> Can't wait for tomorrow to see if I feel even better!

>

> HTH

>

> Mandi in UK who should be in bed but is just enjoying feeling GOOD!

>

> In a message dated 01/10/2010 02:50:59 GMT Daylight Time,

> khieken@... writes:

>

> Thanks so much for the advice Mandi. I don't have an official diagnosis of

> CFS, but could probably fall asleep at any given point of the day, on any

> day of the week! Very low energy, since I was a kid. I have tried the

> Nutricology ACE, but haven't been consistent with it (too busy working on my

> kids.) I also know for sure I have a yeast problem, so these supplements look

> very interesting to me.

>

> Have you used them? If so, about how long did it take before you noticed

> any effects?

>

October 2, 2010

Hi

I have a truely amazing naturopath. She does a saliva test with a machine

apparently not allowed in the US. I think because it would put Big Pharma out of

business. We did our 1st test with her on both our children one being NT and the

other ASD. I did not tell her anything about my boys and we sent the test by

mail. In my NT son she found things I know he was exposed to when I was pregnant

with him. In my ASD son she found all things typical of autism that his labs had

never indicated. Yeast bacteria metals. We have followed her protocol and have

had good results but I am planning to start chelation soon because I fgeel that

for the metals we have to bring out the big guns but I am planning to still use

her to monitor him because the medical lab tests have never been much help to

us. All that being said I think Naturopathy is wonderful as long as you have the

right one.

Liz )

>

> Hi,

> For those of you who use naturopathic doctors, just wondering your opinions.

Sharing of any positive or negative experiences would be greatly appreciated!

>

> Thanks

>

October 2, 2010

Hi could you share more for that test so i can buy it .

From: lizcurran70 <lizcurran70@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: OT: naturopathic medicine - opinions

Date: Saturday, 2 October, 2010, 14:30

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