Guest guest Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Hi Dana (My last attempt to post this...don't know what happened to the previous two. So pardon me for double or tripple posting). 1) Nightsweating My 3 year old son seemed to be sweating excessive at night when he sleeps. Literally soaks the pillow with sweat. So happened, it started on the 1st day of chelation (DMSA). i believe it was mentioned in some of the older posts that this is due to night time detox. Any other insights into the implication of night sweating (in air-cond room 25C). Is there anything that can be done about this? Or is this normal chelation reaction? 2) Hypoglycemia My son has been having this issue for months and I think I need to get to the bottom of this. He is tantrumous and violent when sugar level is low and quickly changes to the sweetest and most timid boy after fed. Recently he is also experiencing anxiety. He has to be accompanied. He glues himself to me (or my housekeeper) and literally tailing me around the house. his TSH, T3 and T4 are all normal. However, TEI hairtest report suggests that he should be on Thymus support. Read an article on adrenal fatigue and it says that if the potassium level is high (mine is off the chart), it means possibility of low adrenalin production and requires adrenal support. Can I supplement him ACE without doing anymore test? Just to see if he responses to ACE? Is there any negative impact that you can think of doing this? I have been told thymus counteracts ACE, is this true? Thymus support hasn't really done much for him. Perhaps Thymus did improve his immunity but not significantly. So, I am planning to stop thymus if ACE can be helpful to him. Hope to hear from you and the parents on the forum on this. Cheers Shan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 In my early attempts to sort out my mysterious health issues, I did a paper on " functional hypoglycemia " when I was 17 (back when I still had a pet dinosaur and a bright yellow rotary phone). The adrenals overreact when blood sugar plummets. Those two issues are likely interrelated and should both be treated together. Another thing you should try to look at is if he is too acid. One article I saw indicated that inflammation was likely part of what causes diabetes. I was severely hypoglycemic as a teen and was likely moving towards diabetic as I got older and sicker (diabetes is a common complication for my primary diagnosis). I concluded that high acidity was an underlying major cause of many of the symptoms of my primary diagnosis. With treating that and getting adequate amounts of good quality sea salt (coincidentally: a source of adrenal support), my blood sugar issues have mostly cleared up even though I really wasn't specifically trying to treat them. My blood sugar is probably more stable than it has ever been before. I no longer black out from standing up too fast and so on. As for anxiety and clinging to an adult: I have a couple of different thoughts I want to toss out, neither of which I can really substantiate. First: My oldest clung to me a lot when he was younger. The battle to get him out of my bed lasted about 7 years (until age 9) and I carried him on my hip until he was about 6 or 7 years old. I believe a big part of this was that my heart and lungs beat out a rhythm for his compromised system to follow -- and not just " instructionally " but actually lending physical energy to his weaker system. The heart of an adult is quite large in comparison to the chest cavity of a small child and the heart produces something like 40 times as much electrical pulse as the brain. Sound waves are physical shock waves that you can feel, especially in the case of low pitched noises. This why drums are used on battlefields: You can feel them even if you can't quite hear them over the din of battle. I think physical closeness to an adult literally provides support for the fragile system of a jittery, unwell kid. I would encourage him to curl up on your lap while you read him a book or something. I think tolerating so much closeness with my oldest is part of why is doing so well now as an adult. Second: For many years, I thought the shaky feeling and weird heart stuff I got was solely about hypoglycemia. I treated that consistently by eating. Sometimes eating helped that icky feeling and sometimes it didn't. I gained quite a lot of weight during that time in my life and I now think that is in part because it wasn't always hypoglycemia. My now adult oldest son eventually suggested to me that there was something else going on. We talked about how the heart powers not only the blood circulation but also the lymphatic system. He commented that for certain issues, he consistently had pain in his heart. We concluded this is somehow about the heart being under strain due to the poisons being processed by the lymphatic system. We found that the single best thing to do for this issue is to lay down until it goes away (usually for about 20 minutes). Taking heart supportive supplements like co-q-10 and sea salt can also help some. I will also note that I was told at some point (by a very knowledgeable individual whose advice helped me a lot) that if you have chronic adrenal stress it eventually stresses the thyroid. So thyroid support may also be needed. For quite some time, I consistently took both adrenal support and thyroid support as part of my healing process. I generally take coconut oil for thyroid support. Good luck with this. Michele http://www.healthgazelle.com http://www.kidslikemine.com http://www.solanorail.com > > Hi Dana > > (My last attempt to post this...don't know what happened to the previous two. So pardon me for double or tripple posting). > > 1) Nightsweating > My 3 year old son seemed to be sweating excessive at night when he sleeps. Literally soaks the pillow with sweat. So happened, it started on the 1st day of chelation (DMSA). i believe it was mentioned in some of the older posts that this is due to night time detox. Any other insights into the implication of night sweating (in air-cond room 25C). Is there anything that can be done about this? Or is this normal chelation reaction? > > 2) Hypoglycemia > My son has been having this issue for months and I think I need to get to the bottom of this. He is tantrumous and violent when sugar level is low and quickly changes to the sweetest and most timid boy after fed. > > Recently he is also experiencing anxiety. He has to be accompanied. He glues himself to me (or my housekeeper) and literally tailing me around the house. > > his TSH, T3 and T4 are all normal. > > However, TEI hairtest report suggests that he should be on Thymus support. > > Read an article on adrenal fatigue and it says that if the potassium level is high (mine is off the chart), it means possibility of low adrenalin production and requires adrenal support. > > Can I supplement him ACE without doing anymore test? Just to see if he responses to ACE? Is there any negative impact that you can think of doing this? > > I have been told thymus counteracts ACE, is this true? Thymus support hasn't really done much for him. Perhaps Thymus did improve his immunity but not significantly. So, I am planning to stop thymus if ACE can be helpful to him. > > Hope to hear from you and the parents on the forum on this. > > Cheers > Shan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 One last thought: If there is any truth to my idea about how sea salt impacts the digestive system and was important in stabilizing my blood sugar issues, the night sweats may be part of why he has developed anxiety and hypoglycemia. Switching to a good quality sea salt and/or increasing how much sea salt he gets might do a lot of good for him if that is the connection. Michele http://www.healthgazelle.com http://www.kidslikemine.com http://www.solanorail.com > > Hi Dana > > (My last attempt to post this...don't know what happened to the previous two. So pardon me for double or tripple posting). > > 1) Nightsweating > My 3 year old son seemed to be sweating excessive at night when he sleeps. Literally soaks the pillow with sweat. So happened, it started on the 1st day of chelation (DMSA). i believe it was mentioned in some of the older posts that this is due to night time detox. Any other insights into the implication of night sweating (in air-cond room 25C). Is there anything that can be done about this? Or is this normal chelation reaction? > > 2) Hypoglycemia > My son has been having this issue for months and I think I need to get to the bottom of this. He is tantrumous and violent when sugar level is low and quickly changes to the sweetest and most timid boy after fed. > > Recently he is also experiencing anxiety. He has to be accompanied. He glues himself to me (or my housekeeper) and literally tailing me around the house. > > his TSH, T3 and T4 are all normal. > > However, TEI hairtest report suggests that he should be on Thymus support. > > Read an article on adrenal fatigue and it says that if the potassium level is high (mine is off the chart), it means possibility of low adrenalin production and requires adrenal support. > > Can I supplement him ACE without doing anymore test? Just to see if he responses to ACE? Is there any negative impact that you can think of doing this? > > I have been told thymus counteracts ACE, is this true? Thymus support hasn't really done much for him. Perhaps Thymus did improve his immunity but not significantly. So, I am planning to stop thymus if ACE can be helpful to him. > > Hope to hear from you and the parents on the forum on this. > > Cheers > Shan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Hi Shan, We've seen good things from ACE (using Thorne brand). Also, make sure he's getting nutrients that support the adrenals, like vitamin C (sodium ascorbate is supposedly helpful for adrenal issues, but we haven't tried that form yet), B5/pantothenic acid, P5P, magnesium. We use sea salt for cooking. For thyroid issues, tyrosine and selenium have been helpful. My youngest eats a lot of seaweed (iodine) too. And for hypoglycemia which my son had, the best remedies were a good diet (no refined starches, no processed foods), yeast control (coconut oil, probiotics, Candida Clear), protein with each meal, a bit of chromium (it's not one of our regular supplements but we gave Cr-zyme 2-3 times a week when he had the symptoms. Hope things improve! Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Thanks Jo. Most helpful. Will read into B5. Currently he is on b-complex. Will see if he is getting enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 > Hi Dana > 1) Nightsweating > My 3 year old son seemed to be sweating excessive at night when he sleeps. Literally soaks the pillow with sweat. This is a common occurrence when the body detoxes itself at night, from something it encountered during the daytime. It can be a food, environmental issue, or just about anything else. >>So happened, it started on the 1st day of chelation (DMSA). i believe it was mentioned in some of the older posts that this is due to night time detox. Any other insights into the implication of night sweating (in air-cond room 25C). Is there anything that can be done about this? Or is this normal chelation reaction? It may mean an intolerance to the chelator, or another supplement you started at the same time. Or, it may just mean metals are moving around. If it is the latter, it should reduce as chelation progresses. > 2) Hypoglycemia > My son has been having this issue for months and I think I need to get to the bottom of this. He is tantrumous and violent when sugar level is low and quickly changes to the sweetest and most timid boy after fed. Try giving chromium, which is what the body uses to regulate blood sugar. > his TSH, T3 and T4 are all normal. > However, TEI hairtest report suggests that he should be on Thymus support. My #4 had a " normal " thyroid test, but she still benefited from thyroid support supplements. I used selenium, iodine, and tyrosine. > Read an article on adrenal fatigue and it says that if the potassium level is high (mine is off the chart), it means possibility of low adrenalin production and requires adrenal support. > Can I supplement him ACE without doing anymore test? Just to see if he responses to ACE? Is there any negative impact that you can think of doing this? I used ACE for a while. When my kids no longer needed it, it caused hyper and sleep problems. Start with low dose and in the morning. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Thx Dana. Sweating stopped these few days. Really feel that it is redistribution of heavy metal because it happens during and few days after. Just received my chromium. Is 50mg morning and after lunch ok for 14kg boy. My Thorne ACE is 50mg cap. Shall I start with 50mg or less. Strnge that I read a file in RFA that suggests 500-1000mg! Thx heaps. Shan > > Hi Dana > > 1) Nightsweating > > My 3 year old son seemed to be sweating excessive at night when he sleeps. Literally soaks the pillow with sweat. > > > This is a common occurrence when the body detoxes itself at night, from something it encountered during the daytime. It can be a food, environmental issue, or just about anything else. > > > >>So happened, it started on the 1st day of chelation (DMSA). i believe it was mentioned in some of the older posts that this is due to night time detox. Any other insights into the implication of night sweating (in air-cond room 25C). Is there anything that can be done about this? Or is this normal chelation reaction? > > > It may mean an intolerance to the chelator, or another supplement you started at the same time. Or, it may just mean metals are moving around. If it is the latter, it should reduce as chelation progresses. > > > > 2) Hypoglycemia > > My son has been having this issue for months and I think I need to get to the bottom of this. He is tantrumous and violent when sugar level is low and quickly changes to the sweetest and most timid boy after fed. > > > Try giving chromium, which is what the body uses to regulate blood sugar. > > > > his TSH, T3 and T4 are all normal. > > However, TEI hairtest report suggests that he should be on Thymus support. > > > My #4 had a " normal " thyroid test, but she still benefited from thyroid support supplements. I used selenium, iodine, and tyrosine. > > > > Read an article on adrenal fatigue and it says that if the potassium level is high (mine is off the chart), it means possibility of low adrenalin production and requires adrenal support. > > Can I supplement him ACE without doing anymore test? Just to see if he responses to ACE? Is there any negative impact that you can think of doing this? > > > I used ACE for a while. When my kids no longer needed it, it caused hyper and sleep problems. Start with low dose and in the morning. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 > Just received my chromium. Is 50mg morning and after lunch ok for 14kg boy. According to my info, 50mcg is 42% USRDA. I have also seen USRDA as low as 45mcg and as high as 200mcg. So if you are giving mg, that would be way too much. If you give 50mcg [not mg] 2x per day, that would equal less than 100%, which is probably a good starting dose. > My Thorne ACE is 50mg cap. Shall I start with 50mg or less. Strnge that I read a file in RFA that suggests 500-1000mg! I started with 1/2 capsule. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I listened to an online conference at the following website that really hit on adrenal fatique and hypoglycemia - adrenal fatique affects the immune system, tons of hormones, fighting infections, the ability for cells to receive glucose, and also, kids/adults with cortisol out of normal ranges cannot focus on alpha waves which are needed for concentration.. The online Wednesday seminars are provided free - and are really informative. Possibly you can reach out to Dr. Buczynski and ask for the replay link. Ruth M. Buczynski, PhD President and Licensed Psychologist The National Institute for the Clinical Application of Behavioral Medicine Online Distance Learning Program <http://www.nicabm.com/program> http://www.nicabm.com/program My Best, Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Thanks so much for quick response. Sorry. it was my mistake. The chromium is 200mcg tablet.Will go with your suggestion. One more question. My son just had 2 rounds of chelation. First round stirred up bacteria and virus and he got flu like symptoms and cough and more autistic traits. So right after second round I decided to start antiviral and immune modulator (immunovir). I saw great responses. His previous blood test showed positive on EBV. so he could b a viral kid. I just want to make sure that it is ok to do chelation and antiviral at the same time. Or should I stop immunovir on the on-days of chelation? > > Just received chromium. Is 50mg morning and after lunch ok for 14kg boy. > > > According to my info, 50mcg is 42% USRDA. I have also seen USRDA as low as 45mcg and as high as 200mcg. So if you are giving mg, that would be way too much. If you give 50mcg [not mg] 2x per day, that would equal less than 100%, which is probably a good starting dose. > > > > My Thorne ACE is 50mg cap. Shall I start with 50mg or less. Strnge that I read a file in RFA that suggests 500-1000mg! > > > I started with 1/2 capsule. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 > One more question. My son just had 2 rounds of chelation. First round stirred up bacteria and virus and he got flu like symptoms and cough and more autistic traits. So right after second round I decided to start antiviral and immune modulator (immunovir). I saw great responses. His previous blood test showed positive on EBV. Give lysine. >>so he could b a viral kid. I just want to make sure that it is ok to do chelation and antiviral at the same time. Or should I stop immunovir on the on-days of chelation? Both chelation and anti-virals will tend to increase yeast. So long as you can keep the yeast under control and your child does not appear to be stressed by doing both, then I would say you can do both. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Where do you buy Imunovir from? sasmita ________________________________ From: danasview <danasview@...> Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 6:38:29 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Hypoglycemia and nighsweating  > One more question. My son just had 2 rounds of chelation. First round stirred >up bacteria and virus and he got flu like symptoms and cough and more autistic >traits. So right after second round I decided to start antiviral and immune >modulator (immunovir). I saw great responses. His previous blood test showed >positive on EBV. Give lysine. >>so he could b a viral kid. I just want to make sure that it is ok to do >>chelation and antiviral at the same time. Or should I stop immunovir on the >>on-days of chelation? >> Both chelation and anti-virals will tend to increase yeast. So long as you can keep the yeast under control and your child does not appear to be stressed by doing both, then I would say you can do both. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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