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Increase the GSE and look at adding lysine for the cold sores. His immune

function is low and some children need immune suport during chelation.

Check his supplements against the list for chelation in the files supplement

file. I don't see minerals....zinc, calcium, magnesium. What's in the multi is

probably not enough.

Jan

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> Last weekend we restarted chelation after 5 rounds of DAN protocol, this time

on low dose AC protocol, we took a break of two months. My son continues

stimming, loud humming and yesterday he had 2 cold sores in his lips (he has

gotten them before,but not during DAN chelation). He complains of sore throat.

Are these signs of yeast, or did he just get a cold? I started giving him one

week prior to chelation 125 mg GSE, but no biotin yet. Do I increase GSE, or

start giving him biotin? He now gets vitamin E,C, multivitamin, cod liver oil,

probiotic, digestive enzyme, vitamin D

> Anything else I should add?

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Dana - what would you suggest for a starting dose of biotin? What should the

target dose be? Does it go by weight? My son is about 80 ibs.

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> > Last weekend we restarted chelation after 5 rounds of DAN protocol, this

time on low dose AC protocol, we took a break of two months. My son continues

stimming, loud humming

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> At my house, humming meant yeast overgrowth.

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> >>and yesterday he had 2 cold sores in his lips

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> These were eliminated with lysine here.

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> >>Do I increase GSE, or start giving him biotin?

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> I would add biotin first, see if that helps. If not, keep the biotin and

increase the GSE.

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> Dana

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Thank you Dana!

How much biotin should I start with? My son is 11 years old and 110lbs. In

terms of lysine, I started today with 250mg is that low or high for a start. For

how long should I continue lysine? My former DAN doctor, gave my son for 10

days acyclovir for herpes and said if you do not notice any difference, probably

he does not have it, and I did not notice anything. But as I wrote in another

post he gets cold sores all the time. Besides cold sores, what else have you

observed about herpes.

Appreciate your time and opinion!

Mimoza

> > Last weekend we restarted chelation after 5 rounds of DAN protocol, this

time on low dose AC protocol, we took a break of two months. My son continues

stimming, loud humming

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> At my house, humming meant yeast overgrowth.

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> >>and yesterday he had 2 cold sores in his lips

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> These were eliminated with lysine here.

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> >>Do I increase GSE, or start giving him biotin?

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> I would add biotin first, see if that helps. If not, keep the biotin and

increase the GSE.

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> Dana

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> Dana - what would you suggest for a starting dose of biotin? What should the

target dose be?

I started at 400mcg and worked up to 20mg 3x per day.

Dana

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> Thank you Dana!

> How much biotin should I start with?

I started with 400mcg.

>>My son is 11 years old and 110lbs. In terms of lysine, I started today with

250mg is that low or high for a start.

I started at 250mg.

>>For how long should I continue lysine?

Depends. I worked up to a rather high dose for me and for my #2. #2 needed it

for 8 months, I needed it for over a year. My other kids needed a smaller dose

and shorter time.

For all five us here, when we no longer needed lysine it caused foot problems.

>>Besides cold sores, what else have you observed about herpes.

Warts [on hands and on feet], various rashes, language and social skills issues,

certain stims.

Dana

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Bingo! I checked my son's hands and there was a small wart. I will continue with

lysine.

Dana you are awesome! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

Mimoza

> > Thank you Dana!

> > How much biotin should I start with?

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> I started with 400mcg.

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> >>My son is 11 years old and 110lbs. In terms of lysine, I started today with

250mg is that low or high for a start.

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> I started at 250mg.

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> >>For how long should I continue lysine?

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> Depends. I worked up to a rather high dose for me and for my #2. #2 needed

it for 8 months, I needed it for over a year. My other kids needed a smaller

dose and shorter time.

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> For all five us here, when we no longer needed lysine it caused foot problems.

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> >>Besides cold sores, what else have you observed about herpes.

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> Warts [on hands and on feet], various rashes, language and social skills

issues, certain stims.

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> Dana

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My son has taken to constantly clearing his sinuses. Its been going on for the

last week. Its almost like there is excess muccus he is trying to clear. Is

this a sign of yeast? We are giving 250 mg of GSE (divided doses) and 8

lauricidin tabs (divided) and Candex. He's not displaying any other yeasty

behaviors at the moment (spinnning, humming).

Karla

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It is a sign that you are treating yeast. When I take my candida supplements,

sometimes I get an awful congestion and stuffy nose. It is the bacteria and

fungus trying to leave my body. I have found that niacinamide helps and epsom

salt baths. I crave hot water on me when it happens.

Liz

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> My son has taken to constantly clearing his sinuses. Its been going on for

the last week. Its almost like there is excess muccus he is trying to clear.

Is this a sign of yeast? We are giving 250 mg of GSE (divided doses) and 8

lauricidin tabs (divided) and Candex. He's not displaying any other yeasty

behaviors at the moment (spinnning, humming).

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> Karla

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Thanks. We just added the lauricidin in the past two weeks. Im wondering if

its actually increasing the yeast instead of killing it. I think I'll pull it

and see what that does.

Karla

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> > My son has taken to constantly clearing his sinuses. Its been going on for

the last week. Its almost like there is excess muccus he is trying to clear.

Is this a sign of yeast? We are giving 250 mg of GSE (divided doses) and 8

lauricidin tabs (divided) and Candex. He's not displaying any other yeasty

behaviors at the moment (spinnning, humming).

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> > Karla

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Thank you Tammy! My son weighs 110lbs! How much biotin should I give him? I

started biotin only two days ago and he actually gets only 125mg GSE, which I

started only a week ago.

Thank you!

> > > > Thank you Dana!

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> > > >>My son is 11 years old and 110lbs. In terms of lysine, I started today

with 250mg is that low or high for a start.

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> > > I started at 250mg.

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> > > >>For how long should I continue lysine?

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> > > Depends. I worked up to a rather high dose for me and for my #2. #2

needed it for 8 months, I needed it for over a year. My other kids needed a

smaller dose and shorter time.

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> > > For all five us here, when we no longer needed lysine it caused foot

problems.

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> > > >>Besides cold sores, what else have you observed about herpes.

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> > > Warts [on hands and on feet], various rashes, language and social skills

issues, certain stims.

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> > > Dana

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> My son has taken to constantly clearing his sinuses. Its been going on for

the last week. Its almost like there is excess muccus he is trying to clear.

Is this a sign of yeast?

At my house, sometimes this was a yeast infection in the sinuses, and sometimes

it meant intolerances.

>>We are giving 250 mg of GSE (divided doses) and 8 lauricidin tabs (divided)

and Candex. He's not displaying any other yeasty behaviors at the moment

(spinnning, humming).

Lauricidin caused a tremendous amount of yeast here, I eventually had to stop

using it because of that.

Dana

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> Dana and others,

> How long does it take to get the yeast under control.

Depends on what else you are doing, and how much yeast control you are using.

>>I am on second round of AC chelation DMSA only 12.5 mg lowest dose) and

started yeast protocol only last week, but also did 5 rounds of DAN chelation

without yeast protocol in place. My son's yeast symptoms seems to getting worse,

he is getting 250mg GSE and 400mcg biotin.

The most I used was 20mg biotin, plus 4 tablets GSE, 3x per day. Definitely try

increasing the biotin. You might need to increase GSE also.

>>Should I stop the chelation for a week or so and continue with the yeast

protocol, so my son's stemming and humming get lessened, or shall I continue

with yeast and AC chelation?

I skipped rounds when I was having difficulty controlling the yeast, but I would

try to increase the yeast protocol first.

Dana

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