Re: AC chelation with a stainless steel crown?

[Guest guest]

Do you know what material was used under the crown?

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> My almost 5 year old daughter had major dental work done a year

ago...stainless steel crown and a composite filling. Is it ok to do ALA or DMSA

with that crown? What are our options otherwise? I wish we had just had the

tooth pulled since it's a baby tooth, but I hate to put her under anesthesia

again to pull it out. However, if the stainless steel crown could be doing

serious damage, it might be worth it. She quit talking soon after the dental

work and we still don't have words back,

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[Guest guest]

Since it's a baby tooth, I would have it pulled and then do chelation. I

chelated with a mouth full of metals but it is **not** recommended and I think

it only worked for me (for a time, and then started making me ill) because I

lost five molars with very large amalgams in my early thirties. My hypothesis

is that this meant there was more metal in my tissues than in my mouth for a

time and consuming cilantro moved metals out of my tissues until there was less

metal in my tissues than in my mouth, at which point it began moving metals in

my mouth and poisoning me worse. At that point, I had to stop.

Given the complexities of my situation, I don't know that I could have done

anything else but it doesn't sound like you have the kind of situation I had.

Pull the tooth. Do what you can to support good clearance of the anesthetic

afterward. (I found that egg yolks, butter, bacon, and b-vitamins helped me

clear anesthesia from my system -- it was old anesthesia, from an operation

years earlier, but I would assume it would work pretty much the same with a

recently administered anesthetic). Then do chelation. That's the safest,

sanest thing to do.

Good luck.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

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> > My almost 5 year old daughter had major dental work done a year

ago...stainless steel crown and a composite filling. Is it ok to do ALA or DMSA

with that crown? What are our options otherwise? I wish we had just had the

tooth pulled since it's a baby tooth, but I hate to put her under anesthesia

again to pull it out. However, if the stainless steel crown could be doing

serious damage, it might be worth it. She quit talking soon after the dental

work and we still don't have words back,

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[Guest guest]

When I asked the dentist a while back, they said they put a numbing medicine and

that is it. Nothing else under the tooth. Here is the thing though, if we pull

the tooth, we will have to put her under again and it might have been the

anesthesia that caused her to quit talking. She lost speech several weeks after

the dental work situation.

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> > My almost 5 year old daughter had major dental work done a year

ago...stainless steel crown and a composite filling. Is it ok to do ALA or DMSA

with that crown? What are our options otherwise? I wish we had just had the

tooth pulled since it's a baby tooth, but I hate to put her under anesthesia

again to pull it out. However, if the stainless steel crown could be doing

serious damage, it might be worth it. She quit talking soon after the dental

work and we still don't have words back,

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[Guest guest]

The dentist who put my two crowns in assured me that there was NO amalgam under

them (I was asking before I pursued getting my fillings out at a biological

dentist).

I decided to err on the side of caution and get both crowns replaced anyhow.

Good thing I did. The biological dentist told me there WAS amalgam under one

of them (I forget if he said it was under the gold or porcelain crown).

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> > > My almost 5 year old daughter had major dental work done a year

ago...stainless steel crown and a composite filling. Is it ok to do ALA or DMSA

with that crown? What are our options otherwise? I wish we had just had the

tooth pulled since it's a baby tooth, but I hate to put her under anesthesia

again to pull it out. However, if the stainless steel crown could be doing

serious damage, it might be worth it. She quit talking soon after the dental

work and we still don't have words back,

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[Guest guest]

Just want to share my experience when my son was 4yr old, he had 14 cavities.

Before the dental work, he was healthy and happy boy, no major issue as he is

very high functioning. The dentist sent him to the hospital for dental sugery

and 3 stainless steel crown with full body anesthesia. That was the worst

decision I made in my life. After surgery, he kept complaining tired and can't

get up, had stomach pain whatever he ate and stuttering and regress a lot, and

he didn't grow for whole year. I did some research on the brand of his crown

and it has 5% nickle in it. I don't want any bad stuff in his mouth. End up 3

months later, I found a " green " dentist to pull off his crown and get the resin

crown instead. He only used local anesthesia, which he had no any side effect.

The hospital full body anesthesia is very harsh to the kids body. I will never

never use it again. Unfortunately I learned it in a hard way. Anyway, it took

me almost a year to get him back where he was before, his growth is about the

same as his peer now.

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> My almost 5 year old daughter had major dental work done a year

ago...stainless steel crown and a composite filling. Is it ok to do ALA or DMSA

with that crown? What are our options otherwise? I wish we had just had the

tooth pulled since it's a baby tooth, but I hate to put her under anesthesia

again to pull it out. However, if the stainless steel crown could be doing

serious damage, it might be worth it. She quit talking soon after the dental

work and we still don't have words back,

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son 6yrs has crowns in his mouth too.We have done 12 rounds of chelation and

he seems to do ok.

stainless steel crowns dont leach however they have nickel in them that does.

will do some chelation after the crowns are all removed or come out to get the

nickel out

Kara

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From: ny2tx99 <mom2emmakate@...>

Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 1:48:22 PM

Subject: [ ] AC chelation with a stainless steel crown?

My almost 5 year old daughter had major dental work done a year ago...stainless

steel crown and a composite filling. Is it ok to do ALA or DMSA with that crown?

What are our options otherwise? I wish we had just had the tooth pulled since

it's a baby tooth, but I hate to put her under anesthesia again to pull it out.

However, if the stainless steel crown could be doing serious damage, it might be

worth it. She quit talking soon after the dental work and we still don't have

words back,

[Guest guest]

I asked this question about a month ago prior to our almost 5 y/o daughter's

dental work. No one answered. I asked again but changed the question to

chelation with braces and got answers that as long as the braces were 100%

stainless steel she would be ok.

I asked the dentist for a list of what was in the stainless steel cap as well as

the 3 resin (white fillings) she was going to get. I got it via the mail a day

later. All done by 3M with a complete ingredient list.

For the stainless steel cap it listed: 100% stainless steel.

For the white fillings the only ingredient that concerned me was BPA (bisphenol

A) which, of late, is the one thing that everyone is raving about as bad for our

kids (you see lots of plastic things now claiming to be BPA free).

I didn't want to have the teeth pulled as I know that it would hinder future

growth (of the permanent teet), talking, etc (with 4 teeth having to be pulled

out of the 20 she has. So that wasn't an option for us. After lamenting over

the BPA, I decided to go ahead and have it done.

We used local anesthetic called Versid (may be spelling it wrong). It makes

them quite drowsy but it has an amnesia effect meaning they soon forget

afterwards about the traumatic experience (I use traumatic because dental work

for me is traumatic so I imagine it is traumatic for my kid as well).

She had the surgery on Dec. 4th. She seems fine (still chatty, not much change

in behavior). She asked to go to the dentist last week which tells me she

definitely forgot about the visit.

Feel free to ask any other questions you may have. We have a year of AC

chelation under our belt and have continued 2 rounds since her surgery.

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> My son 6yrs has crowns in his mouth too.We have done 12 rounds of chelation

and

> he seems to do ok.

> stainless steel crowns dont leach however they have nickel in them that does.

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> will do some chelation after the crowns are all removed or come out to get the

> nickel out

>

> Kara

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> From: ny2tx99 <mom2emmakate@...>

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> Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 1:48:22 PM

> Subject: [ ] AC chelation with a stainless steel crown?

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> My almost 5 year old daughter had major dental work done a year

ago...stainless

> steel crown and a composite filling. Is it ok to do ALA or DMSA with that

crown?

> What are our options otherwise? I wish we had just had the tooth pulled since

> it's a baby tooth, but I hate to put her under anesthesia again to pull it

out.

> However, if the stainless steel crown could be doing serious damage, it might

be

> worth it. She quit talking soon after the dental work and we still don't have

> words back,

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[Guest guest]

Where are you located? Sounds like you need a naturopathic dentist who can

muscle test and do homeopathic injections into the manibular and pulpar areas

(Sanum Khelbeck remedies), With stainless and metal crowns, take chlorella

tablets, chew thoroughly to bind metals in mouth and then spit out. Next, drop

the chelator in the back of the mouth ( bypassing the teeth), ie NDF Plus, etc.

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> > > My almost 5 year old daughter had major dental work done a year

ago...stainless steel crown and a composite filling. Is it ok to do ALA or DMSA

with that crown? What are our options otherwise? I wish we had just had the

tooth pulled since it's a baby tooth, but I hate to put her under anesthesia

again to pull it out. However, if the stainless steel crown could be doing

serious damage, it might be worth it. She quit talking soon after the dental

work and we still don't have words back,

> > >

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Same thing happened to me!! It was a horrible experience, Once my dentist

discovered there was big wad of amalgam under a crown he was replacing he worked

very fast, put me on a respirator, rubber dam, etc. for protection.

The problem with cilantro it removes metals from the brain thereby excaberating

symptoms of any kind, To get around this you need to do various methods of

external detox, ie saunas, ionic footbaths, drainage BEFORE chelation methods to

reduce the extracellular space of metals, If you dont the intracellular space

dumps metals into an already crowded extracellular space and you will feel like

S^ & (!!!!!

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> > > > My almost 5 year old daughter had major dental work done a year

ago...stainless steel crown and a composite filling. Is it ok to do ALA or DMSA

with that crown? What are our options otherwise? I wish we had just had the

tooth pulled since it's a baby tooth, but I hate to put her under anesthesia

again to pull it out. However, if the stainless steel crown could be doing

serious damage, it might be worth it. She quit talking soon after the dental

work and we still don't have words back,

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[Guest guest]

My son had to have several stainless steel crowns placed on his baby teeth.

His baby teeth had demineralized. Before we had it done we asked his DAN

about doing chelation with these in, and he didn't say they would be a

problem. The problem we had was with the method of chelation (IV) which

caused respiratory reactions, so we quit doing it that way.

We discussed with the dentists our son's history and his diagnosis of heavy

metal intoxication due to vaccine ingredients (showed them the diagnosis

given by the pediatric neurologist at the same hospital), so they assured us

there would be nothing under these crowns.

[Guest guest]

There HAS to be something under the crown! The remnant of the tooth is tailored

so that the crown can fit over it. Some material is always used to help with the

fit. You need to ask the specific question or see the record to determine what

was used. I've never seen anything but mercury amalgam used for children in the

ambulatory surgery setting.

>

> My son had to have several stainless steel crowns placed on his baby teeth.

> His baby teeth had demineralized. Before we had it done we asked his DAN

> about doing chelation with these in, and he didn't say they would be a

> problem. The problem we had was with the method of chelation (IV) which

> caused respiratory reactions, so we quit doing it that way.

>

> We discussed with the dentists our son's history and his diagnosis of heavy

> metal intoxication due to vaccine ingredients (showed them the diagnosis

> given by the pediatric neurologist at the same hospital), so they assured us

> there would be nothing under these crowns.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jazzy,

With the stainless steel caps in your daughter's mouth, are you seeing any

difference now while you're chelating?

Our son has stainless steel caps, with no amalgam under the cap, I made sure

about that, but we haven't started any chelation yet.

Sheila

>

> I asked this question about a month ago prior to our almost 5 y/o daughter's

dental work. No one answered. I asked again but changed the question to

chelation with braces and got answers that as long as the braces were 100%

stainless steel she would be ok.

>

> I asked the dentist for a list of what was in the stainless steel cap as well

as the 3 resin (white fillings) she was going to get. I got it via the mail a

day later. All done by 3M with a complete ingredient list.

>

> For the stainless steel cap it listed: 100% stainless steel.

> For the white fillings the only ingredient that concerned me was BPA

(bisphenol A) which, of late, is the one thing that everyone is raving about as

bad for our kids (you see lots of plastic things now claiming to be BPA free).

>

> I didn't want to have the teeth pulled as I know that it would hinder future

growth (of the permanent teet), talking, etc (with 4 teeth having to be pulled

out of the 20 she has. So that wasn't an option for us. After lamenting over

the BPA, I decided to go ahead and have it done.

>

> We used local anesthetic called Versid (may be spelling it wrong). It makes

them quite drowsy but it has an amnesia effect meaning they soon forget

afterwards about the traumatic experience (I use traumatic because dental work

for me is traumatic so I imagine it is traumatic for my kid as well).

>

> She had the surgery on Dec. 4th. She seems fine (still chatty, not much

change in behavior). She asked to go to the dentist last week which tells me

she definitely forgot about the visit.

>

> Feel free to ask any other questions you may have. We have a year of AC

chelation under our belt and have continued 2 rounds since her surgery.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila

Im not jazzy but my son is 6 and we have done 19 rounds of chelation with him

and he has stainless steel caps.

He has been showing great progress.I was worried too when i started so i know

how you feel.

good luck

kara

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From: the_murdocks2004 <the_murdocks2004@...>

Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 9:18:58 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: AC chelation with a stainless steel crown?

Jazzy,

With the stainless steel caps in your daughter's mouth, are you seeing any

difference now while you're chelating?

Our son has stainless steel caps, with no amalgam under the cap, I made sure

about that, but we haven't started any chelation yet.

Sheila

>

> I asked this question about a month ago prior to our almost 5 y/o daughter's

>dental work. No one answered. I asked again but changed the question to

>chelation with braces and got answers that as long as the braces were 100%

>stainless steel she would be ok.

>

> I asked the dentist for a list of what was in the stainless steel cap as well

>as the 3 resin (white fillings) she was going to get. I got it via the mail a

>day later. All done by 3M with a complete ingredient list.

>

> For the stainless steel cap it listed: 100% stainless steel.

> For the white fillings the only ingredient that concerned me was BPA

(bisphenol

>A) which, of late, is the one thing that everyone is raving about as bad for

our

>kids (you see lots of plastic things now claiming to be BPA free).

>

> I didn't want to have the teeth pulled as I know that it would hinder future

>growth (of the permanent teet), talking, etc (with 4 teeth having to be pulled

>out of the 20 she has. So that wasn't an option for us. After lamenting over

>the BPA, I decided to go ahead and have it done.

>

> We used local anesthetic called Versid (may be spelling it wrong). It makes

>them quite drowsy but it has an amnesia effect meaning they soon forget

>afterwards about the traumatic experience (I use traumatic because dental work

>for me is traumatic so I imagine it is traumatic for my kid as well).

>

>

> She had the surgery on Dec. 4th. She seems fine (still chatty, not much

change

>in behavior). She asked to go to the dentist last week which tells me she

>definitely forgot about the visit.

>

> Feel free to ask any other questions you may have. We have a year of AC

>chelation under our belt and have continued 2 rounds since her surgery.

[Guest guest]

Nope. We kept up chelation as usual and haven't noticed any adverse effects.

She got it on Nov. 4th of 2010.

> >

> > I asked this question about a month ago prior to our almost 5 y/o daughter's

dental work. No one answered. I asked again but changed the question to

chelation with braces and got answers that as long as the braces were 100%

stainless steel she would be ok.

> >

> > I asked the dentist for a list of what was in the stainless steel cap as

well as the 3 resin (white fillings) she was going to get. I got it via the

mail a day later. All done by 3M with a complete ingredient list.

> >

> > For the stainless steel cap it listed: 100% stainless steel.

> > For the white fillings the only ingredient that concerned me was BPA

(bisphenol A) which, of late, is the one thing that everyone is raving about as

bad for our kids (you see lots of plastic things now claiming to be BPA free).

> >

> > I didn't want to have the teeth pulled as I know that it would hinder future

growth (of the permanent teet), talking, etc (with 4 teeth having to be pulled

out of the 20 she has. So that wasn't an option for us. After lamenting over

the BPA, I decided to go ahead and have it done.

> >

> > We used local anesthetic called Versid (may be spelling it wrong). It makes

them quite drowsy but it has an amnesia effect meaning they soon forget

afterwards about the traumatic experience (I use traumatic because dental work

for me is traumatic so I imagine it is traumatic for my kid as well).

> >

> > She had the surgery on Dec. 4th. She seems fine (still chatty, not much

change in behavior). She asked to go to the dentist last week which tells me

she definitely forgot about the visit.

> >

> > Feel free to ask any other questions you may have. We have a year of AC

chelation under our belt and have continued 2 rounds since her surgery.

>