Re: Repost: Jan or others, help with adrenal test results

[Guest guest]

Hi, I have been testing my sons cortisol etc with diagnostech for many years

now... he is 10 now... his started looking like this, little higher at night,

but it didnt seem to affect his behavior or anything, is your child having a

hard time getting to sleep at night?

when we put him on the ACE, his cortisol was actually very very low almost at

every sample time, but the ACE only raised his numbers a few points, then we

tried ashwaganda, same result, then small dose of prednisolone upon waking (his

first morning cortisol was in the ditch), now his is fairly high.... i too am

perplexed and cant find a endo that will take this seriously, my naturpath is

trying.

when he was a bit high in the evening we too did seraphos to try to bring it

down... but the next time we tested him, he was low all day. I know things like

stress, infection, diet etc can affect these results on a day to day basis so

always feels like it is chasing a moving target... so frustrating.

my sons free T3 is also high, but the lab spilled his blood sample and didnt get

the rest of the results so the doc told me he was unable to interpret just a

free T3.... again so frustrating...

my son has severe stress response episodes (very high adrenaline), PTSD type

episodes, panic attacks with sometimes rage like self abuse and I havent been

able to fix it...

deborah

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> My daughter had the cortisol saliva test done and I'm not quite sure I'm

interpreting the results correctly.

>

> Cortisol levels:

> 6-8 am 17 range 13-24

> 11-noon 6 5-10

> 4-5 pm 8 3-8

> 10-midnite 7 1-4

>

> DHEA high at 13 range 3-10

>

> Is this a sign of adrenal fatigue? I thought adrenal fatigue created low

cortisol levels. But after reading the Stop the Thyroid Madness site, it looks

like high cortisol in the afternoon and night is a sign of fatigue. Am I

interpreting this correctly?

>

> I have been supplementing with adrenal cortex (just recently started), and our

doctor suggested we stop it. But I would think we need it. He recommended using

phosphatidyl serine.

>

> Also, her free T3 was high at 5.38 (range 2.05 - 4.5). I was expecting it to

be low. What do I do with this result?

>

> Any takers?

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your response Deborah.

I have read quite a bit recently on the STTM site, it seems that the high

cortisol in late pm and night are signs of the adrenals being stressed, so I

will probably continue the ACE unless I see negative side effects. Both of my

kids do have trouble getting to sleep - I'm convinced they would stay up all

night if I didn't strictly enforce bedtime and give them melatonin. The high T3

puzzles me too, and I was thinking I may need a practitioner to help me with

this, but not sure who (I don't think a typical endocrinologist would take these

results seriously, since her FT4 and TSH are normal).

I'm sorry you haven't been able to fix your son's problem - this can all be very

frustrating at times, when you know something is not quite right in their

bodies, but can't seem to figure out exactly what it is.

Hope you find some answers soon.

> >

> > My daughter had the cortisol saliva test done and I'm not quite sure I'm

interpreting the results correctly.

> >

> > Cortisol levels:

> > 6-8 am 17 range 13-24

> > 11-noon 6 5-10

> > 4-5 pm 8 3-8

> > 10-midnite 7 1-4

> >

> > DHEA high at 13 range 3-10

> >

> > Is this a sign of adrenal fatigue? I thought adrenal fatigue created low

cortisol levels. But after reading the Stop the Thyroid Madness site, it looks

like high cortisol in the afternoon and night is a sign of fatigue. Am I

interpreting this correctly?

> >

> > I have been supplementing with adrenal cortex (just recently started), and

our doctor suggested we stop it. But I would think we need it. He recommended

using phosphatidyl serine.

> >

> > Also, her free T3 was high at 5.38 (range 2.05 - 4.5). I was expecting it to

be low. What do I do with this result?

> >

> > Any takers?

> >

> > Thanks in advance.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This is stage six of adrenal fatigue where the dhea goes up and cortisol

regulation is dysregulated.

Phosphatidylserine can help regulate it along with removing mercury from the

pituitary and hypothalamus.

None of her cortisol readings are low. The morning " could " in theory be a bit

higher but the others are either normal or high. So her body still has cortisol

but not when it needs it or not at the right times.

Taking melatonin at bedtime can help to regulate the high nighttime level.

Is she gluten free? This may help take some stress of the adrenals. As will

adrenal support which you are doing.

this website tells a bit about the stages:

http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%207.html

I'd also double check that the lab used references for children.

Jan

>

> My daughter had the cortisol saliva test done and I'm not quite sure I'm

interpreting the results correctly.

>

> Cortisol levels:

> 6-8 am 17 range 13-24

> 11-noon 6 5-10

> 4-5 pm 8 3-8

> 10-midnite 7 1-4

>

> DHEA high at 13 range 3-10

>

> Is this a sign of adrenal fatigue? I thought adrenal fatigue created low

cortisol levels. But after reading the Stop the Thyroid Madness site, it looks

like high cortisol in the afternoon and night is a sign of fatigue. Am I

interpreting this correctly?

>

> I have been supplementing with adrenal cortex (just recently started), and our

doctor suggested we stop it. But I would think we need it. He recommended using

phosphatidyl serine.

>

> Also, her free T3 was high at 5.38 (range 2.05 - 4.5). I was expecting it to

be low. What do I do with this result?

>

> Any takers?

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jan. She does take melatonin at night, and would probably not sleep much

if at all without it. She is also gluten and casein free. We just discovered she

has a GI parasite, and are treating for that as well, plus yeast.

We were rolling along nicely with ALA chelation, but ran into some trouble at

about round 30, with bad tantrums at the 2nd or 3rd dose of ALA. We switched to

DMSA, and 1 round went well, but the same thing started to happen, so I'm

holding off on chelating for now. With help here, I started adrenal support and

am hoping we can restart chelation soon. I have some p-serine, and may

eventually throw that in the mix too. Incidentally, the cortisol labs were done

BEFORE she starting having the tantrums with ALA. I will check with the lab to

make sure they used the correct reference ranges.

I'm not sure what to make of the high T3. I would like to find a doctor to help

with this, but know it will be difficult to find someone who is knowledgeable in

this area.

Thanks for your help!

> >

> > My daughter had the cortisol saliva test done and I'm not quite sure I'm

interpreting the results correctly.

> >

> > Cortisol levels:

> > 6-8 am 17 range 13-24

> > 11-noon 6 5-10

> > 4-5 pm 8 3-8

> > 10-midnite 7 1-4

> >

> > DHEA high at 13 range 3-10

> >

> > Is this a sign of adrenal fatigue? I thought adrenal fatigue created low

cortisol levels. But after reading the Stop the Thyroid Madness site, it looks

like high cortisol in the afternoon and night is a sign of fatigue. Am I

interpreting this correctly?

> >

> > I have been supplementing with adrenal cortex (just recently started), and

our doctor suggested we stop it. But I would think we need it. He recommended

using phosphatidyl serine.

> >

> > Also, her free T3 was high at 5.38 (range 2.05 - 4.5). I was expecting it to

be low. What do I do with this result?

> >

> > Any takers?

> >

> > Thanks in advance.

> >

> >

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