Re: Visual Stimming: How to reduce?

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-- In , " RowenaM " <jerry_montgomery@...> wrote:

> We have the yeast under control, have address all but two viral issues (Herpes

Zoster and Rubella are the last two), and has heavy metal issues (mainly mercury

and arsenic per the French Tests).

My son's visual stims were eliminated with anti-fungals,anti-virals, B12, and a

few other things. So, if you still have virus issues, it might be that.

> We did the Vitamin A protocol and are currently giving 15,000 to 20,000IU

Vitamin A a day.

My son required the high dose vitamin A protocol twice, and once the measles

virus was gone and his vitamin A levels were normal, giving him more vitamin A

caused problems including additional stimming.

> Our main issue with my son is expressive language. However, if I can address

the visual stims in the meantime, that would be great.

All of the things that eliminated the visual stimming, also helped my son with

language.

Dana

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Dana,

 

You mention a lot about B12. When you gave that, was it part of a Bcomplex or

alone? Did you have any problem with the B vitamins being balanced. I read

several years ago that you can get them out of balance if you give one to the

exclusion of the rest.

 

Drissia

> We have the yeast under control, have address all but two viral issues (Herpes

Zoster and Rubella are the last two), and has heavy metal issues (mainly mercury

and arsenic per the French Tests).

My son's visual stims were eliminated with anti-fungals, anti-virals, B12, and a

few other things. So, if you still have virus issues, it might be that.

> We did the Vitamin A protocol and are currently giving 15,000 to 20,000IU

Vitamin A a day.

My son required the high dose vitamin A protocol twice, and once the measles

virus was gone and his vitamin A levels were normal, giving him more vitamin A

caused problems including additional stimming.

> Our main issue with my son is expressive language. However, if I can address

the visual stims in the meantime, that would be great.

All of the things that eliminated the visual stimming, also helped my son with

language.

Dana

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Good morning, Dana,

Thank you.

We still have the Herpes Zoster virus and some Rubella to address that our

homeopath with Electro Dermal Screening and Payne with Zyto testing have

revealed.

I am waiting for our viral blood titers to come back as well as follow up with

the Neurosensory Centers of America for their perspective on the viral load on

my son.

We are giving MB12 orally. We were doing the shots. Even with the shots, he

stimmed. Hmmmmm but not as much.

Okay. I need to look at possible giving the MB12 shots again.

Thank you,

Jerry

> > We have the yeast under control, have address all but two viral issues

(Herpes Zoster and Rubella are the last two), and has heavy metal issues (mainly

mercury and arsenic per the French Tests).

>

>

> My son's visual stims were eliminated with anti-fungals,anti-virals, B12, and

a few other things. So, if you still have virus issues, it might be that.

>

>

> > We did the Vitamin A protocol and are currently giving 15,000 to 20,000IU

Vitamin A a day.

>

>

> My son required the high dose vitamin A protocol twice, and once the measles

virus was gone and his vitamin A levels were normal, giving him more vitamin A

caused problems including additional stimming.

>

>

> > Our main issue with my son is expressive language. However, if I can

address the visual stims in the meantime, that would be great.

>

>

> All of the things that eliminated the visual stimming, also helped my son with

language.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> You mention a lot about B12. When you gave that, was it part of a Bcomplex or

alone?

I gave it along with a B complex and extra folic acid.

>>Did you have any problem with the B vitamins being balanced.

Sometimes

>>I read several years ago that you can get them out of balance if you give one

to the exclusion of the rest.

Yes. If I gave B12 without the B50 [which is a B complex], my son developed B2

deficiency. If I did not give B12 with extra folic, he became severely

deficient in folic.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Good morning, Dana,

> We still have the Herpes Zoster virus and some Rubella to address that our

homeopath with Electro Dermal Screening and Payne with Zyto testing have

revealed.

I eliminated herpes virus with lysine.

> We are giving MB12 orally. We were doing the shots. Even with the shots, he

stimmed. Hmmmmm but not as much.

I used oral mB12. It required carnitine, folic acid, and B2 for proper

absorption, and did tend to increase yeast. Shots tend to increase yeast also,

but not as much as oral. If your son had increased stims with oral, you might

try increasing the yeast protocol, see if that helps.

Dana

[Guest guest]

what are symptoms of folic deficiency?

> > Dana,

> > You mention a lot about B12. When you gave that, was it part of a Bcomplex

or alone?

>

>

> I gave it along with a B complex and extra folic acid.

>

>

> >>Did you have any problem with the B vitamins being balanced.

>

>

> Sometimes

>

>

> >>I read several years ago that you can get them out of balance if you give

one to the exclusion of the rest.

>

>

> Yes. If I gave B12 without the B50 [which is a B complex], my son developed

B2 deficiency. If I did not give B12 with extra folic, he became severely

deficient in folic.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Ok. Thanks.

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Visual Stimming: How to reduce?

Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 9:20 AM

 

> Dana,

> You mention a lot about B12. When you gave that, was it part of a Bcomplex or

alone?

I gave it along with a B complex and extra folic acid.

>>Did you have any problem with the B vitamins being balanced.

Sometimes

>>I read several years ago that you can get them out of balance if you give one

to the exclusion of the rest.

Yes. If I gave B12 without the B50 [which is a B complex], my son developed B2

deficiency. If I did not give B12 with extra folic, he became severely deficient

in folic.

Dana

[Guest guest]

How do you learn if your child has herpes, Are there any signs? Can you do a

test?

thanks

> > Good morning, Dana,

> > We still have the Herpes Zoster virus and some Rubella to address that our

homeopath with Electro Dermal Screening and Payne with Zyto testing have

revealed.

>

>

> I eliminated herpes virus with lysine.

>

>

> > We are giving MB12 orally. We were doing the shots. Even with the shots,

he stimmed. Hmmmmm but not as much.

>

>

> I used oral mB12. It required carnitine, folic acid, and B2 for proper

absorption, and did tend to increase yeast. Shots tend to increase yeast also,

but not as much as oral. If your son had increased stims with oral, you might

try increasing the yeast protocol, see if that helps.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Good morning,

We did a viral titer test. Our doctor stated that the viral titer just shows if

the body has antibodies to the virus or not.

I really did not like that answer so I did the following tests.

We also visited our homeopath and she did a Electro Dermal Screening to confirm

Herpes Virus 6 and other viral issues. Then we also had a Zyto session with

Payne of Living Well Today that showed other viral issues.

Also, we went to the Neurosensory Centers of America (Trophy Club location) to

home in on the viral issues and for additional tests.

All in all, using non mainstream tests (Zyto testing and Electro Dermal

Screening) along with mainstream tests (viral titers and Neurosensory Centers of

America tests) we confirmed that my son had all sorts of viral issues - measles,

mumbs, rubella, varicella, herpes v6, as well as Borrella and Strep A.

Most of these findings were with our homeopath and Payne. For us, my

son regressed after the MMR (months after very gradual). So after being told

not to worry about the viral titers initially, I decided to take more tests and

discovered alot of viral issues that were weighing on my son's immune system.

If you ever want to talk, feel free to call me at 940.594.9214.

Hope this helps,

Jerry

> > > Good morning, Dana,

> > > We still have the Herpes Zoster virus and some Rubella to address that our

homeopath with Electro Dermal Screening and Payne with Zyto testing have

revealed.

> >

> >

> > I eliminated herpes virus with lysine.

> >

> >

> > > We are giving MB12 orally. We were doing the shots. Even with the shots,

he stimmed. Hmmmmm but not as much.

> >

> >

> > I used oral mB12. It required carnitine, folic acid, and B2 for proper

absorption, and did tend to increase yeast. Shots tend to increase yeast also,

but not as much as oral. If your son had increased stims with oral, you might

try increasing the yeast protocol, see if that helps.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

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- [ ] Re: Visual Stimming: How to reduce?

Good morning,

We did a viral titer test. Our doctor stated that the viral titer just shows if

the body has antibodies to the virus or not.

I really did not like that answer so I did the following tests.

We also visited our homeopath and she did a Electro Dermal Screening to confirm

Herpes Virus 6 and other viral issues. Then we also had a Zyto session with

Payne of Living Well Today that showed other viral issues.

Also, we went to the Neurosensory Centers of America (Trophy Club location) to

home in on the viral issues and for additional tests.

All in all, using non mainstream tests (Zyto testing and Electro Dermal

Screening) along with mainstream tests (viral titers and Neurosensory Centers of

America tests) we confirmed that my son had all sorts of viral issues - measles,

mumbs, rubella, varicella, herpes v6, as well as Borrella and Strep A.

Most of these findings were with our homeopath and Payne. For us, my

son regressed after the MMR (months after very gradual). So after being told

not to worry about the viral titers initially, I decided to take more tests and

discovered alot of viral issues that were weighing on my son's immune system.

If you ever want to talk, feel free to call me at 940.594.9214.

Hope this helps,

Jerry

> > > Good morning, Dana,

> > > We still have the Herpes Zoster virus and some Rubella to address that our

homeopath with Electro Dermal Screening and Payne with Zyto testing have

revealed.

> >

> >

> > I eliminated herpes virus with lysine.

> >

> >

> > > We are giving MB12 orally. We were doing the shots. Even with the shots,

he stimmed. Hmmmmm but not as much.

> >

> >

> > I used oral mB12. It required carnitine, folic acid, and B2 for proper

absorption, and did tend to increase yeast. Shots tend to increase yeast also,

but not as much as oral. If your son had increased stims with oral, you might

try increasing the yeast protocol, see if that helps.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> what are symptoms of folic deficiency?

At my house, scripting, writing letters in the air, severe heel and toe cracks.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> How do you learn if your child has herpes, Are there any signs? Can you do a

test?

I tested by observation.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thank you Jerry for all you shared with me-very helpful. I had no idea that all

these tests existed. I am meeting with a naturopath next week, and will ask if

she can do these tests for my son. When he was two years old he got sick one

time and the doctor said he had herpes virus. He gets cold sores all the time.

But I have noticed that twice during chelation his lips get red and burn, cold

sores, running nose, sore throat. I am not sure if it was a coincidence and he

just had a cold.

I did start lysine today 250mg, I am not sure if this is low or high, my son is

11 and is 110lbs.

> > > > Good morning, Dana,

> > > > We still have the Herpes Zoster virus and some Rubella to address that

our homeopath with Electro Dermal Screening and Payne with Zyto testing

have revealed.

> > >

> > >

> > > I eliminated herpes virus with lysine.

> > >

> > >

> > > > We are giving MB12 orally. We were doing the shots. Even with the

shots, he stimmed. Hmmmmm but not as much.

> > >

> > >

> > > I used oral mB12. It required carnitine, folic acid, and B2 for proper

absorption, and did tend to increase yeast. Shots tend to increase yeast also,

but not as much as oral. If your son had increased stims with oral, you might

try increasing the yeast protocol, see if that helps.

> > >

> > > Dana

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Good morning, everyone,

I just wanted to share another group: stopcallingitautism and the

associated website www.stopcallingitautism.net.

recovered his son. It is a different perspective and more regarding the

viral aspect, , and Dr. Goldberg.

Also, if you join the group, there is a file titled

" Austim_Immune_System_Dysfunction_Lab_Tests.pdf " . It provides a list of tests

to determine if your child's immune system is overwhelmed.

Also, the website notes what his medical diagnosis were and his medical

treatments.

This site may be able to provide a different perspective. Of course, addressing

glutathione deficiency is identified. I have an e-mail into to ask if he

had to do some type of chelation.

I am having these tests performed for my son. My main issues now are addressing

my son's two remaining viruses and addressing his heavy metal issues.

Just thought I would share.

Jerry

> > > > > Good morning, Dana,

> > > > > We still have the Herpes Zoster virus and some Rubella to address that

our homeopath with Electro Dermal Screening and Payne with Zyto testing

have revealed.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I eliminated herpes virus with lysine.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > We are giving MB12 orally. We were doing the shots. Even with the

shots, he stimmed. Hmmmmm but not as much.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I used oral mB12. It required carnitine, folic acid, and B2 for proper

absorption, and did tend to increase yeast. Shots tend to increase yeast also,

but not as much as oral. If your son had increased stims with oral, you might

try increasing the yeast protocol, see if that helps.

> > > >

> > > > Dana

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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HI

This is simple, but CLO always helps when my son is doing visual stimming.