Re: TD ALA: Am I doing this right?

October 22, 2010

Combination of both I think. We have used other ALA and it's grainy, has bigger

granules. I think less thick lotion mixes better as well. We use kirkman ALA .

TJ

[ ] TD ALA: Am I doing this right?

A question for those of you doing ALA transdermally: I mixed up about 25 mg ALA

with a little Nivea Creme and massaged it onto my son's back. The lotion rubs in

well and disappears, but the ALA leaves a grainy residue on the skin. Is that

normal?

I expected the ALA to be absorbed to the point where it's not visible. Could it

be the brand of ALA I'm using (Natrol from iHerb)? Or do I need a runnier

lotion? The Nivea is on the thick side:

http://www.nivea.co.uk/products/NIVEA-Creme .

We're following the AC protocol.

Thanks,

Ann

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October 22, 2010

I have used Natrol in the past and it is very grainy and difficult to mix well

(we mix with juice). Using Twinlab now and it's much better.

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> Combination of both I think. We have used other ALA and it's grainy, has

bigger granules. I think less thick lotion mixes better as well. We use kirkman

ALA .

> TJ

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> A question for those of you doing ALA transdermally: I mixed up about 25 mg

ALA with a little Nivea Creme and massaged it onto my son's back. The lotion

rubs in well and disappears, but the ALA leaves a grainy residue on the skin. Is

that normal?

>

> I expected the ALA to be absorbed to the point where it's not visible. Could

it be the brand of ALA I'm using (Natrol from iHerb)? Or do I need a runnier

lotion? The Nivea is on the thick side:

http://www.nivea.co.uk/products/NIVEA-Creme .

>

> We're following the AC protocol.

>

> Thanks,

> Ann

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November 11, 2010

Anyone have thoughts or opinions using ALA softgels? I would imagine that you

could just cut open one and mix it or rub it on the skin. I am looking to start

chealting my son and considering td-ala since my 5yo doesn't do well with

swallowing pills and has a very limited (but very healthy gfcf) diet and and is

a light sleeper (when he finally does go to sleep).

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> A question for those of you doing ALA transdermally: I mixed up about 25 mg

ALA with a little Nivea Creme and massaged it onto my son's back. The lotion

rubs in well and disappears, but the ALA leaves a grainy residue on the skin. Is

that normal?

>

> I expected the ALA to be absorbed to the point where it's not visible. Could

it be the brand of ALA I'm using (Natrol from iHerb)? Or do I need a runnier

lotion? The Nivea is on the thick side:

http://www.nivea.co.uk/products/NIVEA-Creme .

>

> We're following the AC protocol.

>

> Thanks,

> Ann

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November 11, 2010

You can use transdermal but will have to switch to oral chelators at some point.

Why can't you put in a bit of juice and place in plastic syringe? You have to

give ala every 3 hours.

> >

> > Combination of both I think. We have used other ALA and it's grainy, has

bigger granules. I think less thick lotion mixes better as well. We use kirkman

ALA .

> > TJ

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> > [ ] TD ALA: Am I doing this right?

> >

> > A question for those of you doing ALA transdermally: I mixed up about 25 mg

ALA with a little Nivea Creme and massaged it onto my son's back. The lotion

rubs in well and disappears, but the ALA leaves a grainy residue on the skin. Is

that normal?

> >

> > I expected the ALA to be absorbed to the point where it's not visible.

Could it be the brand of ALA I'm using (Natrol from iHerb)? Or do I need a

runnier lotion? The Nivea is on the thick side:

http://www.nivea.co.uk/products/NIVEA-Creme .

> >

> > We're following the AC protocol.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Ann

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November 11, 2010

Probably should have mentioned he has olfactory sensitivity issues and his SPD

keeps him going and going I would hate to wake him up from that sleep we both

need! I don't want to wake him and then we are both up for the rest of the

night. I was considering going TD because of his SPD + sleep issues, He already

takes melatonin, zinc, magnesium and lavender bath just so I can get him to

sleep by 10! I'm lucky if he sleeps til 4:30!

Also, Syringes freak him out and at night that would set off a fit that will

also keep him awake-been there done that with other supplements and biomeds..

I wanted to save the juice option as a last resort because it is harder for me

to ensure that he gets those doses when in daycare or his sitters. I work

weekends making the scheduling for chelation a little harder... If I do it on my

days off, then he is at school hard to tell if he drinks all his juice, part of

it, or if he gave it away! I'm also a single mother-no one else here to share

the night shift with. I'm already exhausted, sleep deprived as it is-as well as

having " amalgam illness " and need to chelate as well! I just thought TD on the

weekends would be easier to manage since he already likes playing with hand

cream and to rub it on him at night would be less stressful.

Hoping there is someone out there who has gone throught this and can offer some

advice. I know this is going to be hard. We got dx last year and I have spent

every waking moment and free time reading and learning and I don't want to mess

this up.

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> > A question for those of you doing ALA transdermally: I mixed up about 25 mg

ALA with a little Nivea Creme and massaged it onto my son's back. The lotion

rubs in well and disappears, but the ALA leaves a grainy residue on the skin. Is

that normal?

> >

> > I expected the ALA to be absorbed to the point where it's not visible.

Could it be the brand of ALA I'm using (Natrol from iHerb)? Or do I need a

runnier lotion? The Nivea is on the thick side:

http://www.nivea.co.uk/products/NIVEA-Creme .

> >

> > We're following the AC protocol.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Ann

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November 11, 2010

You can use transdermal but you cannot mix oral and transdermal you have to

choose one. Also even though your going to do transdermal you will still have

to apply every 3 hours if you are using ALA.

Btw have you tried melatonin for sleep?

> > >

> > > Combination of both I think. We have used other ALA and it's grainy, has

bigger granules. I think less thick lotion mixes better as well. We use kirkman

ALA .

> > > TJ

> > >

> > > [ ] TD ALA: Am I doing this right?

> > >

> > > A question for those of you doing ALA transdermally: I mixed up about 25

mg ALA with a little Nivea Creme and massaged it onto my son's back. The lotion

rubs in well and disappears, but the ALA leaves a grainy residue on the skin. Is

that normal?

> > >

> > > I expected the ALA to be absorbed to the point where it's not visible.

Could it be the brand of ALA I'm using (Natrol from iHerb)? Or do I need a

runnier lotion? The Nivea is on the thick side:

http://www.nivea.co.uk/products/NIVEA-Creme .

> > >

> > > We're following the AC protocol.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Ann

> > >

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November 12, 2010

No body wants to get up. Period. I've been doing this for four years...there's

no easy way. Believe me I would have found it by now. You cannot use ala and not

get up at night. Ala has to be dosed every three hours during the day and four

at night.

My son is/was very SPD and giving him night doses has not bothered him nearly as

much as it robs me of sleep. I had this same concern myself about him flipping

out at night...but it turned out to be nothing. He did flip out the first few

rounds but they he adjusted and he didn't even wake up anymore. He just sat up

and took the juice and layed back down.

Kids are never up the rest of the night. In fact, they barely wake to take the

doses once they adjust. My kids did at first, but now they sleep right through

it. They don't remember me coming in their rooms.

Not to mention melatonin before bed makes nice deep sleepers.

If you are doing all those supplements at night and he still isn't getting to

sleep before 10pm, you may need to look at his adrenal function. He probably has

too much cortisol at night keeping him up. consider putting him Adrenal Cortex

during the day. Did he have a hair test? Did it show adrenal fatigue?

Syringes don't have to be used. How about medicine cups or medicine spoons? My

son hated syringes too but we got him over that quickly by letting him play with

them and squirt water in them. We took turns letting him squirt water in my

mouth and then his own. Eventually we moved to juice. And my son was only 3

years old then, and very oral sensory. So it can be done with some patience and

time.

His previous experience with syringes has been negative. He needs to see that it

doesn't always have to be that way. ie: juice comes in this one and I have some

control over how fast it gets squirted into my mouth. Some children feel like

they are going to choke because they can't control how fast the liquid comes

out. Otherwise, use a med cup or med spoon. They even had med bottles now for

infants. Find what is going to work for him that won't freak him out. And do a

test run with plain juice.

You can't have his sitter or day care dosing his chelators unless you have a

prescription from the doctor. Unless there is a prescription for this stuff you

don't want other people knowing about it or administering it. Some people

believe chelation is very dangerous, and while that may be true if it's done

wrong, they will not know that you are doing it safely and they will call

authorities if they think you are doing something dangerous to your kid.

There have been parents who have gotten into trouble with CPS because school

called on them saying they were doing unnecessary medical treatments. So please

tread cautiously about asking other people to give his doses unless you have a

prescription for them.

AND you do not want someone else's kid drinking that stuff at school/daycare

because it's in a juice box he gave away, let alone that fact he will have

missed his dose.

I realize your situation is difficult. I don't find being a single mother an

excuse at all. I have had NO help at all doing 109 rounds on my son. Or the 88

on my daughter or the 67 on myself. No one else gets up at night with the kids

but me. And I still have to function the next day and go to work. NO, it isn't

easy, it sucks. But it's what you do to get your kid better. I know there are a

lot of parents out there in the same boat you are in, or worse. So you are not

alone at all. Most of us do not have anyone else carrying the burden of night

doses, measuring supplements, driving to therapies, or paying for all of it.

It's not easy.

So you may be able to do td-dmps but what happens when it's time to add ala?

(you need a script for dmps) Someone has to get up at night for that, and

someone has to be giving it during the day. If you can get a doctors script for

school/daycare to give it, that's great. Most of us can't. Especially not for

the ala. So you have to figure out the logistics. Chelate on vacations, time off

from school etc.

You'll find a way, we all have had to.

Jan

> > >

> > > Combination of both I think. We have used other ALA and it's grainy, has

bigger granules. I think less thick lotion mixes better as well. We use kirkman

ALA .

> > > TJ

> > >

> > > [ ] TD ALA: Am I doing this right?

> > >

> > > A question for those of you doing ALA transdermally: I mixed up about 25

mg ALA with a little Nivea Creme and massaged it onto my son's back. The lotion

rubs in well and disappears, but the ALA leaves a grainy residue on the skin. Is

that normal?

> > >

> > > I expected the ALA to be absorbed to the point where it's not visible.

Could it be the brand of ALA I'm using (Natrol from iHerb)? Or do I need a

runnier lotion? The Nivea is on the thick side:

http://www.nivea.co.uk/products/NIVEA-Creme .

> > >

> > > We're following the AC protocol.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Ann

> > >

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November 12, 2010

We do TD ALA with good results. Every three hours, day and night.

TJ

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