Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Hi, I need you advice... please ! All these years Im aware about the chelation and many protocols, like DAN and AC protocol, others, like using the various supps for chelation. .. DData hair elements show elevated Lead and Aluminium... in Novemebr 2007... Im not really sure why I avoid to start chelation with my son.. Probably I was afraid to do it on my own.... Now, I purchase DMSA - New Beginings, 25 mg, 2 bottles and ALA - Kirkman... few months ago... I want to start the chelation.., AC protocol, for sure... BUT, at same time, there is a chance to start a HBOT treatment with my 6 y old son .. these days or these weeks probably... Im not sure should I start chelation, knowing that HBOT will start in a few weeks??? - May I start DMSA chelation (AC) with my son and HBOT together ???? - Or I will have to do the HBOT first and than start with chelation???? - Did DMSA chelation and HBOT can work together??? Need your advice, yours experience please !!! My son is 6 years old, I really don't want to loose his time anymore, My best regards Goran Macedonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 My 5 year old has been doing mhbot (we bought a soft chamber) since June 2009 and we started AC chelation in October 2009. I consulted with a few doctors (DAN!s who run hbot clinics and NP's) and there wasn't any contraindication from anyone I spoke to about doing them together. I would just suggest starting one first for a while (maybe 1 month?) before starting the other that way you can determine what behaviors, if any, are resulting from which treatment. Also, both HBOT and chelation stir up yeast so you want to make sure you have a good yeast protocol when starting either. Hope that Helps~Good Luck! > > Hi, > > I need you advice... please ! > > All these years Im aware about the chelation and many protocols, like DAN and AC protocol, others, like using the various supps for chelation. > . > DData hair elements show elevated Lead and Aluminium... in Novemebr 2007... > Im not really sure why I avoid to start chelation with my son.. > Probably I was afraid to do it on my own.... > > Now, I purchase DMSA - New Beginings, 25 mg, 2 bottles and ALA - Kirkman... few months ago... > I want to start the chelation.., AC protocol, for sure... > > BUT, at same time, there is a chance to start a HBOT treatment with my 6 y old son .. these days or these weeks probably... > > Im not sure should I start chelation, knowing that HBOT will start in a few weeks??? > > - May I start DMSA chelation (AC) with my son and HBOT together ???? > - Or I will have to do the HBOT first and than start with chelation???? > - Did DMSA chelation and HBOT can work together??? > > Need your advice, yours experience please !!! > My son is 6 years old, I really don't want to loose his time anymore, > > My best regards > > Goran > Macedonia > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 ----- Original Message ----- From: Inap Inap ===>Andy says that HBOT is helpful for 50% of kids, harmful for as many. IMO, try chelation first and if it doesn't get you to where you want to be in a couple of years, consider HBOT. HBOT has induced seizures for some, also cleared seizures for others, so a mixed bag, but I definitely would never do HBOT. Hi, I need you advice... please ! All these years Im aware about the chelation and many protocols, like DAN and AC protocol, others, like using the various supps for chelation. . DData hair elements show elevated Lead and Aluminium... in Novemebr 2007... Im not really sure why I avoid to start chelation with my son.. Probably I was afraid to do it on my own.... Now, I purchase DMSA - New Beginings, 25 mg, 2 bottles and ALA - Kirkman... few months ago... I want to start the chelation.., AC protocol, for sure... BUT, at same time, there is a chance to start a HBOT treatment with my 6 y old son .. these days or these weeks probably... Im not sure should I start chelation, knowing that HBOT will start in a few weeks??? - May I start DMSA chelation (AC) with my son and HBOT together ???? - Or I will have to do the HBOT first and than start with chelation???? - Did DMSA chelation and HBOT can work together??? Need your advice, yours experience please !!! My son is 6 years old, I really don't want to loose his time anymore, My best regards Goran Macedonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 We did both hard and soft HBOT prior to chelation, and if I could do it over again I would have waited to do HBOT until after or at the end of chelation. The reason is that with chelation (45 rds so far AC protocol) we have seen such significant gains that we might have decided not to do HBOT or wait until after chelation to see if we want to try it. HBOT is also a lot of work for the child and parent. It didn't seem that way at the time, because of the urgency we felt to help our son. But in retrospect I see that soft chamber was 2+hrs/day in a tube in our bedroom and hard chamber was driving to and from the place plus being in the tank. My 2 cents. Maggied. > > Hi, > > I need you advice... please ! > > All these years Im aware about the chelation and many protocols, like DAN and AC protocol, others, like using the various supps for chelation. > . > DData hair elements show elevated Lead and Aluminium... in Novemebr 2007... > Im not really sure why I avoid to start chelation with my son.. > Probably I was afraid to do it on my own.... > > Now, I purchase DMSA - New Beginings, 25 mg, 2 bottles and ALA - Kirkman... few months ago... > I want to start the chelation.., AC protocol, for sure... > > BUT, at same time, there is a chance to start a HBOT treatment with my 6 y old son .. these days or these weeks probably... > > Im not sure should I start chelation, knowing that HBOT will start in a few weeks??? > > - May I start DMSA chelation (AC) with my son and HBOT together ???? > - Or I will have to do the HBOT first and than start with chelation???? > - Did DMSA chelation and HBOT can work together??? > > Need your advice, yours experience please !!! > My son is 6 years old, I really don't want to loose his time anymore, > > My best regards > > Goran > Macedonia > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think it is VERY important to chelate first, my personal opinion. The brain has an oxidant/antioxidant balance it trys to maintain and I think that you have to be careful to " adjust " that slowly...again, my personal opinion. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Inap Inap > > ===>Andy says that HBOT is helpful for 50% of kids, harmful for as many. IMO, try chelation first and if it doesn't get you to where you want to be in a couple of years, consider HBOT. HBOT has induced seizures for some, also cleared seizures for others, so a mixed bag, but I definitely would never do HBOT. > > > > > > Hi, > > I need you advice... please ! > > All these years Im aware about the chelation and many protocols, like DAN and AC protocol, others, like using the various supps for chelation. > . > DData hair elements show elevated Lead and Aluminium... in Novemebr 2007... > Im not really sure why I avoid to start chelation with my son.. > Probably I was afraid to do it on my own.... > > Now, I purchase DMSA - New Beginings, 25 mg, 2 bottles and ALA - Kirkman... few months ago... > I want to start the chelation.., AC protocol, for sure... > > BUT, at same time, there is a chance to start a HBOT treatment with my 6 y old son .. these days or these weeks probably... > > Im not sure should I start chelation, knowing that HBOT will start in a few weeks??? > > - May I start DMSA chelation (AC) with my son and HBOT together ???? > - Or I will have to do the HBOT first and than start with chelation???? > - Did DMSA chelation and HBOT can work together??? > > Need your advice, yours experience please !!! > My son is 6 years old, I really don't want to loose his time anymore, > > My best regards > > Goran > Macedonia > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Hi , Thank you very much for your reply.... I deleay the start of chelation knowing that this ia a long period protocol and HBOT sesion is only 20 days, 2 times a day HBOT tretment.... and after this, I was planing to start Chelation.. Maybe Im wrong.... maybe I wait too much... My best regards Goran From: LINDA <lpopick@...> Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Chelation and HBOT - TOGETHER ! - Advice PLEASE !!!!! Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 3:48 AM Â My 5 year old has been doing mhbot (we bought a soft chamber) since June 2009 and we started AC chelation in October 2009. I consulted with a few doctors (DAN!s who run hbot clinics and NP's) and there wasn't any contraindication from anyone I spoke to about doing them together. I would just suggest starting one first for a while (maybe 1 month?) before starting the other that way you can determine what behaviors, if any, are resulting from which treatment. Also, both HBOT and chelation stir up yeast so you want to make sure you have a good yeast protocol when starting either. Hope that Helps~Good Luck! > > Hi, > > I need you advice... please ! > > All these years Im aware about the chelation and many protocols, like DAN and AC protocol, others, like using the various supps for chelation. > . > DData hair elements show elevated Lead and Aluminium... in Novemebr 2007... > Im not really sure why I avoid to start chelation with my son.. > Probably I was afraid to do it on my own.... > > Now, I purchase DMSA - New Beginings, 25 mg, 2 bottles and ALA - Kirkman... few months ago... > I want to start the chelation.., AC protocol, for sure... > > BUT, at same time, there is a chance to start a HBOT treatment with my 6 y old son .. these days or these weeks probably... > > Im not sure should I start chelation, knowing that HBOT will start in a few weeks??? > > - May I start DMSA chelation (AC) with my son and HBOT together ???? > - Or I will have to do the HBOT first and than start with chelation??? ? > - Did DMSA chelation and HBOT can work together??? > > Need your advice, yours experience please !!! > My son is 6 years old, I really don't want to loose his time anymore, > > My best regards > > Goran > Macedonia > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Hi , Thank you for your reply... I know that every treatment works different for each child... A child, in my country, after a 6 days of HBOT start to speak !!!! Another one, after 4 sessions in last 2 years, no progress with HBOT !!! I know about and Im so confused about.... Thats why I need your help.. and advice.. Regards Goran Macedonia From: <Ladyshrink111@...> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Chelation and HBOT - TOGETHER ! - Advice PLEASE !!!!! Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 2:35 PM Â ----- Original Message ----- From: Inap Inap ===>Andy says that HBOT is helpful for 50% of kids, harmful for as many. IMO, try chelation first and if it doesn't get you to where you want to be in a couple of years, consider HBOT. HBOT has induced seizures for some, also cleared seizures for others, so a mixed bag, but I definitely would never do HBOT. Hi, I need you advice... please ! All these years Im aware about the chelation and many protocols, like DAN and AC protocol, others, like using the various supps for chelation. . DData hair elements show elevated Lead and Aluminium... in Novemebr 2007... Im not really sure why I avoid to start chelation with my son.. Probably I was afraid to do it on my own.... Now, I purchase DMSA - New Beginings, 25 mg, 2 bottles and ALA - Kirkman... few months ago... I want to start the chelation.., AC protocol, for sure... BUT, at same time, there is a chance to start a HBOT treatment with my 6 y old son .. these days or these weeks probably... Im not sure should I start chelation, knowing that HBOT will start in a few weeks??? - May I start DMSA chelation (AC) with my son and HBOT together ???? - Or I will have to do the HBOT first and than start with chelation??? ? - Did DMSA chelation and HBOT can work together??? Need your advice, yours experience please !!! My son is 6 years old, I really don't want to loose his time anymore, My best regards Goran Macedonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Hi Maggie, Thanks for your reply... Im so glad about your progress... Yes, HBOT ask for too much organization.. I need to move my self and my son in capitol for HBOT treatment and this ask for too much problems, but, there is no other way to do it... My best regards Goran From: Maggie <Mgds@...> Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Chelation and HBOT - TOGETHER ! - Advice PLEASE !!!!! Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 2:45 PM Â We did both hard and soft HBOT prior to chelation, and if I could do it over again I would have waited to do HBOT until after or at the end of chelation. The reason is that with chelation (45 rds so far AC protocol) we have seen such significant gains that we might have decided not to do HBOT or wait until after chelation to see if we want to try it. HBOT is also a lot of work for the child and parent. It didn't seem that way at the time, because of the urgency we felt to help our son. But in retrospect I see that soft chamber was 2+hrs/day in a tube in our bedroom and hard chamber was driving to and from the place plus being in the tank. My 2 cents. Maggied. > > Hi, > > I need you advice... please ! > > All these years Im aware about the chelation and many protocols, like DAN and AC protocol, others, like using the various supps for chelation. > . > DData hair elements show elevated Lead and Aluminium... in Novemebr 2007... > Im not really sure why I avoid to start chelation with my son.. > Probably I was afraid to do it on my own.... > > Now, I purchase DMSA - New Beginings, 25 mg, 2 bottles and ALA - Kirkman... few months ago... > I want to start the chelation.., AC protocol, for sure... > > BUT, at same time, there is a chance to start a HBOT treatment with my 6 y old son .. these days or these weeks probably... > > Im not sure should I start chelation, knowing that HBOT will start in a few weeks??? > > - May I start DMSA chelation (AC) with my son and HBOT together ???? > - Or I will have to do the HBOT first and than start with chelation??? ? > - Did DMSA chelation and HBOT can work together??? > > Need your advice, yours experience please !!! > My son is 6 years old, I really don't want to loose his time anymore, > > My best regards > > Goran > Macedonia > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Hi Liz, Thank you for your reply... Im not really sure what to do first... I know that I loose too much time waiting for HBOT !!!! Maybe I will start the AC protocol the following Friday... My best regards Goran From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@...> Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Chelation and HBOT - TOGETHER ! - Advice PLEASE !!!!! Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 2:51 PM Â I think it is VERY important to chelate first, my personal opinion. The brain has an oxidant/antioxidant balance it trys to maintain and I think that you have to be careful to " adjust " that slowly...again, my personal opinion. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Inap Inap > > ===>Andy says that HBOT is helpful for 50% of kids, harmful for as many. IMO, try chelation first and if it doesn't get you to where you want to be in a couple of years, consider HBOT. HBOT has induced seizures for some, also cleared seizures for others, so a mixed bag, but I definitely would never do HBOT. > > > > > > Hi, > > I need you advice... please ! > > All these years Im aware about the chelation and many protocols, like DAN and AC protocol, others, like using the various supps for chelation. > . > DData hair elements show elevated Lead and Aluminium... in Novemebr 2007... > Im not really sure why I avoid to start chelation with my son.. > Probably I was afraid to do it on my own.... > > Now, I purchase DMSA - New Beginings, 25 mg, 2 bottles and ALA - Kirkman... few months ago... > I want to start the chelation.., AC protocol, for sure... > > BUT, at same time, there is a chance to start a HBOT treatment with my 6 y old son .. these days or these weeks probably... > > Im not sure should I start chelation, knowing that HBOT will start in a few weeks??? > > - May I start DMSA chelation (AC) with my son and HBOT together ???? > - Or I will have to do the HBOT first and than start with chelation??? ? > - Did DMSA chelation and HBOT can work together??? > > Need your advice, yours experience please !!! > My son is 6 years old, I really don't want to loose his time anymore, > > My best regards > > Goran > Macedonia > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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