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> My son seems to have had a regression of some sorts and I am not sure why.

> On monday night we tried the AFP Peptizide( 1 capsule) mixed into his

> regular dinner of rice, lentils and veg. He took it. On tue evening, he

> refused his dinner and milk and finally ended up throwing up during his

> epsom salt bath, which we started 2 days earlier.

I threw up when I first started enzymes. And then I didn't have any appetite

whatsoever for about three weeks. Lost 40 pounds =)

When I wanted to eat again, I only used 1/4 capsule of the enzyme. This worked

well. I was able to gradually increase to a full capsule per meal. And several

of my issues disappeared.

> He has neen showing a lot of

> echolalia since monday, I think. Yesterday he was so not focussed during his

> therapy sessions and this morning he has been laughing a lot.

All of these meant yeast here.

> I did not give him his nystatin yesterday. I only gave him the probiotics

> last night with dinner. Apart from this he has his vit D & C in water.

At my house, vitamin D and vitamin C caused a lot of yeast overgrowth [they are

anti-virals]. Maybe the strain of yeast he has, is not susceptible to Nystatin.

Try a different yeast killer.

Dana

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Thanks Dana. I wish I had given him only 1/2 that capsule. I had even

thought of that when I was mixing in the enzyme. :-(

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:36 AM, danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

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>

>

> > My son seems to have had a regression of some sorts and I am not sure

> why.

> > On monday night we tried the AFP Peptizide( 1 capsule) mixed into his

> > regular dinner of rice, lentils and veg. He took it. On tue evening, he

> > refused his dinner and milk and finally ended up throwing up during his

> > epsom salt bath, which we started 2 days earlier.

>

> I threw up when I first started enzymes. And then I didn't have any

> appetite whatsoever for about three weeks. Lost 40 pounds =)

>

> When I wanted to eat again, I only used 1/4 capsule of the enzyme. This

> worked well. I was able to gradually increase to a full capsule per meal.

> And several of my issues disappeared.

>

>

> > He has neen showing a lot of

> > echolalia since monday, I think. Yesterday he was so not focussed during

> his

> > therapy sessions and this morning he has been laughing a lot.

>

> All of these meant yeast here.

>

>

> > I did not give him his nystatin yesterday. I only gave him the probiotics

> > last night with dinner. Apart from this he has his vit D & C in water.

>

> At my house, vitamin D and vitamin C caused a lot of yeast overgrowth [they

> are anti-virals]. Maybe the strain of yeast he has, is not susceptible to

> Nystatin. Try a different yeast killer.

>

> Dana

>

>

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UI was doing great with my detoixing,but after a couple of months, chelation

caused me to have worsened GI pain,acute diarrhea,and total loss of appetite.I

cut back by 2/3,and the symptoms got better.

Regression for me is always a food reactio,dairy is one of the worst,or an

immune/infection flare.

>

> My son seems to have had a regression of some sorts and I am not sure why.

>

> On monday night we tried the AFP Peptizide( 1 capsule) mixed into his

> regular dinner of rice, lentils and veg. He took it. On tue evening, he

> refused his dinner and milk and finally ended up throwing up during his

> epsom salt bath, which we started 2 days earlier. We were doing the epsom

> cream before this but switched to the baths as we got him to sit in the tub.

> Since tue night, he has been refusing food, doing almost no food thro the

> day on wednesday, except for dinner at night.He has neen showing a lot of

> echolalia since monday, I think. Yesterday he was so not focussed during his

> therapy sessions and this morning he has been laughing a lot.

>

> He was doing so well and I am not sure what caused this set back. Needless

> to say I am worried. Is it the AFP Peptizide or just a coincidence. He

> usually stims a lot more before he falls sick.

> I did not give him his nystatin yesterday. I only gave him the probiotics

> last night with dinner. Apart from this he has his vit D & C in water.

>

> Please help.

>

> Thanks,

> Arthi

>

>

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Thanks to everyone for responding to my question.

I went back to my DAN too who had not heard about such reaction to the AFP

Peptizide. But she did ask me to stop until he gets better and try it one

more time to see if he reacts again.

We stopped and started again on it on Monday night. This time I did only a

little sprinkle of the powder( thanks to all of your advice). Since then I

have been sprinking a little powder from the capsule with every

meal.1capsule divided over 3 days. I am still seeing him stim. He has been

spinning occasionally yesterday and today. He stopped that couple of months

back. I am not sure again if it is the peptizide or something else. Has

anyone else had this kind of reaction before the good stuff happens?

I am pretty sure its not the yeast...he has been on his nystatin regularly.

From the past I have seen that even if he misses a day of nystatin he has

never been spinning.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Arthi Nagaraj <arthi.nagaraj@...>wrote:

> My son seems to have had a regression of some sorts and I am not sure why.

>

> On monday night we tried the AFP Peptizide( 1 capsule) mixed into his

> regular dinner of rice, lentils and veg. He took it. On tue evening, he

> refused his dinner and milk and finally ended up throwing up during his

> epsom salt bath, which we started 2 days earlier. We were doing the epsom

> cream before this but switched to the baths as we got him to sit in the tub.

> Since tue night, he has been refusing food, doing almost no food thro the

> day on wednesday, except for dinner at night.He has neen showing a lot of

> echolalia since monday, I think. Yesterday he was so not focussed during his

> therapy sessions and this morning he has been laughing a lot.

>

> He was doing so well and I am not sure what caused this set back. Needless

> to say I am worried. Is it the AFP Peptizide or just a coincidence. He

> usually stims a lot more before he falls sick.

> I did not give him his nystatin yesterday. I only gave him the probiotics

> last night with dinner. Apart from this he has his vit D & C in water.

>

> Please help.

>

> Thanks,

> Arthi

>

>

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>

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I might suggest trying another enzyme. Might be something not agreeing with

him..

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Subject: [ ] Re: regression - please help.

Thanks to everyone for responding to my question.

I went back to my DAN too who had not heard about such reaction to the AFP

Peptizide. But she did ask me to stop until he gets better and try it one

more time to see if he reacts again.

We stopped and started again on it on Monday night. This time I did only a

little sprinkle of the powder( thanks to all of your advice). Since then I

have been sprinking a little powder from the capsule with every

meal.1capsule divided over 3 days. I am still seeing him stim. He has been

spinning occasionally yesterday and today. He stopped that couple of months

back. I am not sure again if it is the peptizide or something else. Has

anyone else had this kind of reaction before the good stuff happens?

I am pretty sure its not the yeast...he has been on his nystatin regularly.

From the past I have seen that even if he misses a day of nystatin he has

never been spinning.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Arthi Nagaraj <arthi.nagaraj@...

<mailto:arthi.nagaraj%40gmail.com> >wrote:

> My son seems to have had a regression of some sorts and I am not sure why.

>

> On monday night we tried the AFP Peptizide( 1 capsule) mixed into his

> regular dinner of rice, lentils and veg. He took it. On tue evening, he

> refused his dinner and milk and finally ended up throwing up during his

> epsom salt bath, which we started 2 days earlier. We were doing the epsom

> cream before this but switched to the baths as we got him to sit in the

tub.

> Since tue night, he has been refusing food, doing almost no food thro the

> day on wednesday, except for dinner at night.He has neen showing a lot of

> echolalia since monday, I think. Yesterday he was so not focussed during

his

> therapy sessions and this morning he has been laughing a lot.

>

> He was doing so well and I am not sure what caused this set back. Needless

> to say I am worried. Is it the AFP Peptizide or just a coincidence. He

> usually stims a lot more before he falls sick.

> I did not give him his nystatin yesterday. I only gave him the probiotics

> last night with dinner. Apart from this he has his vit D & C in water.

>

> Please help.

>

> Thanks,

> Arthi

>

>

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> 908 752 4926

>

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None of the plant/fungal based enzymes worked here. The animal based ones like

prescription Ultrase, which is what we use, were very helpful. Thorne's Dipan-9,

animal derived, was also ok.

>

> > My son seems to have had a regression of some sorts and I am not sure why.

> >

> > On monday night we tried the AFP Peptizide( 1 capsule) mixed into his

> > regular dinner of rice, lentils and veg. He took it. On tue evening, he

> > refused his dinner and milk and finally ended up throwing up during his

> > epsom salt bath, which we started 2 days earlier. We were doing the epsom

> > cream before this but switched to the baths as we got him to sit in the

> tub.

> > Since tue night, he has been refusing food, doing almost no food thro the

> > day on wednesday, except for dinner at night.He has neen showing a lot of

> > echolalia since monday, I think. Yesterday he was so not focussed during

> his

> > therapy sessions and this morning he has been laughing a lot.

> >

> > He was doing so well and I am not sure what caused this set back. Needless

> > to say I am worried. Is it the AFP Peptizide or just a coincidence. He

> > usually stims a lot more before he falls sick.

> > I did not give him his nystatin yesterday. I only gave him the probiotics

> > last night with dinner. Apart from this he has his vit D & C in water.

> >

> > Please help.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Arthi

> >

> >

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> > 908 752 4926

> >

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When you say it did not work does that mean you saw regression or more

stimming?

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:24 PM, mbrookh <mbrookh@...> wrote:

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>

> None of the plant/fungal based enzymes worked here. The animal based ones

> like prescription Ultrase, which is what we use, were very helpful. Thorne's

> Dipan-9, animal derived, was also ok.

>

>

> >

> > > My son seems to have had a regression of some sorts and I am not sure

> why.

> > >

> > > On monday night we tried the AFP Peptizide( 1 capsule) mixed into his

> > > regular dinner of rice, lentils and veg. He took it. On tue evening, he

> > > refused his dinner and milk and finally ended up throwing up during his

> > > epsom salt bath, which we started 2 days earlier. We were doing the

> epsom

> > > cream before this but switched to the baths as we got him to sit in the

> > tub.

> > > Since tue night, he has been refusing food, doing almost no food thro

> the

> > > day on wednesday, except for dinner at night.He has neen showing a lot

> of

> > > echolalia since monday, I think. Yesterday he was so not focussed

> during

> > his

> > > therapy sessions and this morning he has been laughing a lot.

> > >

> > > He was doing so well and I am not sure what caused this set back.

> Needless

> > > to say I am worried. Is it the AFP Peptizide or just a coincidence. He

> > > usually stims a lot more before he falls sick.

> > > I did not give him his nystatin yesterday. I only gave him the

> probiotics

> > > last night with dinner. Apart from this he has his vit D & C in water.

> > >

> > > Please help.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Arthi

> > >

> > >

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> > >

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Someone in another group pointed out that epsom salt baths increased

stimming for her. I never considered that could be it. I never thought of

the baths. We were doing the magnesium sulphate cream before and recently

switched to the baths. Do you build up from a small amt of salts to a larger

dose for the baths? I never considered the baths as we never had any

positive or negative behaviour from the cream and somehow that remained in

my head even when I started the baths.

Did anyone else have similar reactions to epsom baths?

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Arthi Nagaraj <arthi.nagaraj@...>wrote:

> Thanks to everyone for responding to my question.

>

> I went back to my DAN too who had not heard about such reaction to the AFP

> Peptizide. But she did ask me to stop until he gets better and try it one

> more time to see if he reacts again.

>

> We stopped and started again on it on Monday night. This time I did only a

> little sprinkle of the powder( thanks to all of your advice). Since then I

> have been sprinking a little powder from the capsule with every

> meal.1capsule divided over 3 days. I am still seeing him stim. He has been

> spinning occasionally yesterday and today. He stopped that couple of months

> back. I am not sure again if it is the peptizide or something else. Has

> anyone else had this kind of reaction before the good stuff happens?

>

> I am pretty sure its not the yeast...he has been on his nystatin regularly.

> From the past I have seen that even if he misses a day of nystatin he has

> never been spinning.

>

>

>

>

> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Arthi Nagaraj <arthi.nagaraj@...>wrote:

>

>> My son seems to have had a regression of some sorts and I am not sure why.

>>

>> On monday night we tried the AFP Peptizide( 1 capsule) mixed into his

>> regular dinner of rice, lentils and veg. He took it. On tue evening, he

>> refused his dinner and milk and finally ended up throwing up during his

>> epsom salt bath, which we started 2 days earlier. We were doing the epsom

>> cream before this but switched to the baths as we got him to sit in the tub.

>> Since tue night, he has been refusing food, doing almost no food thro

>> the day on wednesday, except for dinner at night.He has neen showing a lot

>> of echolalia since monday, I think. Yesterday he was so not focussed during

>> his therapy sessions and this morning he has been laughing a lot.

>>

>> He was doing so well and I am not sure what caused this set back. Needless

>> to say I am worried. Is it the AFP Peptizide or just a coincidence. He

>> usually stims a lot more before he falls sick.

>> I did not give him his nystatin yesterday. I only gave him the probiotics

>> last night with dinner. Apart from this he has his vit D & C in water.

>>

>> Please help.

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Arthi

>>

>>

>> --

>> 908 752 4926

>>

>

>

>

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> 908 752 4926

>

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