Re: Bad, bad gas. What to do?

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam, a friend of mine (V from the TACA list), said that in this situation,

you should give activated charcoal. I've done that many times and it works

great. I think the problem is that particles of food remain undigested and

yeast grows on it causing the gas. When you give the activated charcoal, it

cleans up the undigested food in the intestines. She has actually told me that

I can give activated charcoal after my son eats sugar too, treating it like

" poison " so that my son is able to eat a candy or two on special occasions. My

son has a horrible time with sugar as well. I am pretty sure it is his glucose

metabolism that is messed up and causes the sugar issues.

Liz

>

> Hi all,

>

> For quite a few years now my son has had bad gas (smelly! frequent). It seems

to get worse based on what he eats. Sugar sets it off big time. That makes me

think yeast but I thought bad bacteria was behind gas. Any thoughts (does

bacteria feed off sugar?)? Pancreatic digestive enzymes have helped put healthy

weight on him but hasn't affected the gas.

>

> We tried a yeast protocol that really didn't seem to make a dent. VSL #3

probiotic might have made it worse. Not sure. I am now trying to again do

heavy probiotis with Theralac. I really should just eliminate sugar. Easier

said than done, of course.

>

> Now that he is in school (3rd grade), the social side effects of farting is

huge. He has no gut pain as far as he knows. Stools are not loose.

>

> We chelate with DMSA/ALA. He is very verbal and able to tell me how he feels.

No discomfort.

>

> Any help is appreciated.

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

We just went through this and I knew something was off. I think for us it was

either something viral or bacterial or both. Yeast certainly didn't help it any.

I made sure to keep up the GSE and biotin without fail, and we added OLE and

Culturelle and it cleared up in about 2 weeks. Those 2 weeks we had some odd

stool changes though.

>

> Hi all,

>

> For quite a few years now my son has had bad gas (smelly! frequent). It seems

to get worse based on what he eats. Sugar sets it off big time. That makes me

think yeast but I thought bad bacteria was behind gas. Any thoughts (does

bacteria feed off sugar?)? Pancreatic digestive enzymes have helped put healthy

weight on him but hasn't affected the gas.

>

> We tried a yeast protocol that really didn't seem to make a dent. VSL #3

probiotic might have made it worse. Not sure. I am now trying to again do

heavy probiotis with Theralac. I really should just eliminate sugar. Easier

said than done, of course.

>

> Now that he is in school (3rd grade), the social side effects of farting is

huge. He has no gut pain as far as he knows. Stools are not loose.

>

> We chelate with DMSA/ALA. He is very verbal and able to tell me how he feels.

No discomfort.

>

> Any help is appreciated.

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting. I've never even used activated charcoal. I'll give it a try. I

really, really see sugar behind this but can't figure out what it is doing.

thanks

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > For quite a few years now my son has had bad gas (smelly! frequent). It

seems to get worse based on what he eats. Sugar sets it off big time. That

makes me think yeast but I thought bad bacteria was behind gas. Any thoughts

(does bacteria feed off sugar?)? Pancreatic digestive enzymes have helped put

healthy weight on him but hasn't affected the gas.

> >

> > We tried a yeast protocol that really didn't seem to make a dent. VSL #3

probiotic might have made it worse. Not sure. I am now trying to again do

heavy probiotis with Theralac. I really should just eliminate sugar. Easier

said than done, of course.

> >

> > Now that he is in school (3rd grade), the social side effects of farting is

huge. He has no gut pain as far as he knows. Stools are not loose.

> >

> > We chelate with DMSA/ALA. He is very verbal and able to tell me how he

feels. No discomfort.

> >

> > Any help is appreciated.

> >

> > Pam

> >

>

[Guest guest]

For my kid, it was milk casein. Cut out all dairy and see what happens after a

few days.

[Guest guest]

causing fermentation, that`s what it is doing and feeding all those bad gut

bugs.... Activated charcoal is good stuff for upset tummies, use it on myself

too and makes me feel better so fast.  l also recommend Boswelia Extract (vital

nutrients), l started giving it to my son a while ago and it helped him with GI

issues (gas, reflux, bloated tummy) much more than other things l had been

trying.

good luck

lsa

--- El mar 19-ene-10, Pamela H <phaselow@...> escribió:

De:: Pamela H <phaselow@...>

Asunto: [ ] Re: Bad, bad gas. What to do?

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Fecha: martes 19 de enero de 2010, 21:28

 

Interesting. I've never even used activated charcoal. I'll give it a try. I

really, really see sugar behind this but can't figure out what it is doing.

thanks

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > For quite a few years now my son has had bad gas (smelly! frequent). It

seems to get worse based on what he eats. Sugar sets it off big time. That makes

me think yeast but I thought bad bacteria was behind gas. Any thoughts (does

bacteria feed off sugar?)? Pancreatic digestive enzymes have helped put healthy

weight on him but hasn't affected the gas.

> >

> > We tried a yeast protocol that really didn't seem to make a dent. VSL #3

probiotic might have made it worse. Not sure. I am now trying to again do heavy

probiotis with Theralac. I really should just eliminate sugar. Easier said than

done, of course.

> >

> > Now that he is in school (3rd grade), the social side effects of farting is

huge. He has no gut pain as far as he knows. Stools are not loose.

> >

> > We chelate with DMSA/ALA. He is very verbal and able to tell me how he

feels. No discomfort.

> >

> > Any help is appreciated.

> >

> > Pam

> >

>

Encuentra las mejores recetas en Cocina.

http://mx.mujer./cocina/

[Guest guest]

I've always been too confused about activated charcoal to use it. My main

concern is that if it neutralizes bad stuff, doesn't it neutralize the good

stuff? Like all the expensive supplements my dds are taking? Does it affect

dmsa? ala? Does it affect pH?

Don't want to fix one problem to cause a bigger one.

Thanks,

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > For quite a few years now my son has had bad gas (smelly! frequent). It

seems to get worse based on what he eats. Sugar sets it off big time. That makes

me think yeast but I thought bad bacteria was behind gas. Any thoughts (does

bacteria feed off sugar?)? Pancreatic digestive enzymes have helped put healthy

weight on him but hasn't affected the gas.

> > >

> > > We tried a yeast protocol that really didn't seem to make a dent. VSL #3

probiotic might have made it worse. Not sure. I am now trying to again do heavy

probiotis with Theralac. I really should just eliminate sugar. Easier said than

done, of course.

> > >

> > > Now that he is in school (3rd grade), the social side effects of farting

is huge. He has no gut pain as far as he knows. Stools are not loose.

> > >

> > > We chelate with DMSA/ALA. He is very verbal and able to tell me how he

feels. No discomfort.

> > >

> > > Any help is appreciated.

> > >

> > > Pam

> > >

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> Encuentra las mejores recetas en Cocina.

> http://mx.mujer./cocina/

>

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[Guest guest]

Oh, AC definitely mops aways good and bad, it is not selective, thst's why it

shouldn't be used on a steady basis but in this " emergency " situations. That's

my experience, never had a problem w it. I don't know its side effects

regarding dmsa/ala. As for the ph, minerals are alkalinizing. I think if you

give it for a short time span no undesirables will happen.

:-)

Isa

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[ ] Re: Bad, bad gas. What to do?

I've always been too confused about activated charcoal to use it. My main

concern is that if it neutralizes bad stuff, doesn't it neutralize the good

stuff? Like all the expensive supplements my dds are taking? Does it affect

dmsa? ala? Does it affect pH?

Don't want to fix one problem to cause a bigger one.

Thanks,

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > For quite a few years now my son has had bad gas (smelly! frequent). It

seems to get worse based on what he eats. Sugar sets it off big time. That makes

me think yeast but I thought bad bacteria was behind gas. Any thoughts (does

bacteria feed off sugar?)? Pancreatic digestive enzymes have helped put healthy

weight on him but hasn't affected the gas.

> > >

> > > We tried a yeast protocol that really didn't seem to make a dent. VSL #3

probiotic might have made it worse. Not sure. I am now trying to again do heavy

probiotis with Theralac. I really should just eliminate sugar. Easier said than

done, of course.

> > >

> > > Now that he is in school (3rd grade), the social side effects of farting

is huge. He has no gut pain as far as he knows. Stools are not loose.

> > >

> > > We chelate with DMSA/ALA. He is very verbal and able to tell me how he

feels. No discomfort.

> > >

> > > Any help is appreciated.

> > >

> > > Pam

> > >

> >

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> Encuentra las mejores recetas en Cocina.

> http://mx.mujer./cocina/

>

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[Guest guest]

I've thought about that, too. He does eat a lot of cheese/ice cream but does

not drink milk. IgE and IgG showed no problems but I know that isn't the end of

it.

Well, my first day of sugar restriction was a bust. Husband, after discussing

it with him, allowed my son to eat several chocolate chip cookies made at his

Social Skills class. To give him a little credit, he wasn't actually in the

room when the instructors gave them to him.

This will be hard! I have so little control over his diet for a large portion

of the day. Goes to show ya that the length of time doing biomed doesn't

determine success (been doing this since 2002); changing diet still remains the

hardest part for me.

Pam

>

> For my kid, it was milk casein. Cut out all dairy and see what happens after a

few days.

>

[Guest guest]

thank you. I'll look in to Boswelia extract.

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > For quite a few years now my son has had bad gas (smelly! frequent). It

seems to get worse based on what he eats. Sugar sets it off big time. That makes

me think yeast but I thought bad bacteria was behind gas. Any thoughts (does

bacteria feed off sugar?)? Pancreatic digestive enzymes have helped put healthy

weight on him but hasn't affected the gas.

> > >

> > > We tried a yeast protocol that really didn't seem to make a dent. VSL #3

probiotic might have made it worse. Not sure. I am now trying to again do heavy

probiotis with Theralac. I really should just eliminate sugar. Easier said than

done, of course.

> > >

> > > Now that he is in school (3rd grade), the social side effects of farting

is huge. He has no gut pain as far as he knows. Stools are not loose.

> > >

> > > We chelate with DMSA/ALA. He is very verbal and able to tell me how he

feels. No discomfort.

> > >

> > > Any help is appreciated.

> > >

> > > Pam

> > >

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> Encuentra las mejores recetas en Cocina.

> http://mx.mujer./cocina/

>

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[Guest guest]

> For quite a few years now my son has had bad gas (smelly! frequent). It seems

to get worse based on what he eats. Sugar sets it off big time.

Yeast overgrowth caused really bad gas here. So did certain intolerances,

especially fats until mito cocktail.

>>That makes me think yeast but I thought bad bacteria was behind gas.

Bad bacteria sometimes caused a little gas here. Yeast caused a lot of gas, and

bloated belly.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> I've thought about that, too. He does eat a lot of cheese/ice cream but does

not drink milk.

Until mito cocktail [especially taurine], ice cream caused bad gas for my #4 and

massive headache for me.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi,

That really bad stinky gas is the hallmark of bad bacteria. We have it pretty

much under control these days but every once in a while it crops up. Bad

bacteria and yeast go hand-in-hand so know if the gas is there on a consistent

basis, odds are that the yeast is too. For the bacteria, I used " Physicians

Strength " P73 Wild Oil of Oregano Gelcaps. 2-4 capsules a day. They are very

small and are pretty easy to get down. I find the OoO tincture too hard to get

into my boy because it is so strong so use the gelcaps.

For us, the bad bacteria was first noticeable in Mark's breath..... really

baaaaaad and stinky..... so much so that his teachers complained to me about it.

As we began to heal him, it migrated to his stool and they smelled absolutely

horrid. Then came the gas.... clear out the room gas, it was that bad. Every

time the boy would have a 'toot' everyone would literally run!

from both this group and the dyspraxia group turned me on to the

Physicians Strength brand of OoO and after about 6 months of being on it,

bacteria levels were under control. It crops up again from time to time and I

pull out my trusty OoO gelcaps and take care of it immediately. Works like a

charm!

Bad bacteria, like yeast, takes a long time to get handled. You've got to work

the diet, work the gut and make sure that you are supplementing glutamine to

give that intestinal lining some assistance. (Most of our kids are chronically

low in glutamine which affects a multitude of systems in the body. VRP has some

good articles on it on their website.)

If your child can handle sulphery foods, then use them in his diet. Lots of raw

garlic, raw onions, etc. help with bad immensely with bad bacteria.

I don't write on the boards much anymore because my son is " mostly " recovered

but this post did catch my eye. Bad bacteria is nasty and can manifest into a

multitude of disease states down the road so keep treating it until your son's

smells nice and sweet!

Janice

Mother of Mark, 15

[Guest guest]

I use the OoO capsules regularly for myself during the winter (same ones as

you). I have given them to him periodically but not at that dose. I will try

it.

Breath does not smell.

Thanks for the insight.

pam

>

> Hi,

>

> That really bad stinky gas is the hallmark of bad bacteria. We have it pretty

much under control these days but every once in a while it crops up. Bad

bacteria and yeast go hand-in-hand so know if the gas is there on a consistent

basis, odds are that the yeast is too. For the bacteria, I used " Physicians

Strength " P73 Wild Oil of Oregano Gelcaps. 2-4 capsules a day. They are very

small and are pretty easy to get down. I find the OoO tincture too hard to get

into my boy because it is so strong so use the gelcaps.

>

> For us, the bad bacteria was first noticeable in Mark's breath..... really

baaaaaad and stinky..... so much so that his teachers complained to me about it.

As we began to heal him, it migrated to his stool and they smelled absolutely

horrid. Then came the gas.... clear out the room gas, it was that bad. Every

time the boy would have a 'toot' everyone would literally run!

>

> from both this group and the dyspraxia group turned me on to the

Physicians Strength brand of OoO and after about 6 months of being on it,

bacteria levels were under control. It crops up again from time to time and I

pull out my trusty OoO gelcaps and take care of it immediately. Works like a

charm!

>

> Bad bacteria, like yeast, takes a long time to get handled. You've got to

work the diet, work the gut and make sure that you are supplementing glutamine

to give that intestinal lining some assistance. (Most of our kids are

chronically low in glutamine which affects a multitude of systems in the body.

VRP has some good articles on it on their website.)

>

> If your child can handle sulphery foods, then use them in his diet. Lots of

raw garlic, raw onions, etc. help with bad immensely with bad bacteria.

>

> I don't write on the boards much anymore because my son is " mostly " recovered

but this post did catch my eye. Bad bacteria is nasty and can manifest into a

multitude of disease states down the road so keep treating it until your son's

smells nice and sweet!

>

> Janice

> Mother of Mark, 15

>

>

[Guest guest]

Can also be from meat rotting in the gut. Try avoiding meat for a while. Also

consider enzymes. Is he drinking plenty of water?

S S

Re: Bad, bad gas. What to do?

Posted by: " danasview " danasview@... danasview

Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:08 am (PST)

> I've thought about that, too. He does eat a lot of cheese/ice cream but does

not drink milk.

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Not a big meat eater. I've used Houston's enzymes in the past and currently use

Creon (pancreatic enzyme). It seems to help a ton with fat/protein metabolism

but does not cut the gas at all. I have backed off the Creon to see if that

helps at all but it makes no difference (with gas) if we use it or not.

Historically, he's had clostridium overgrowth shown on stool tests. I just

don't know how reliable these tests are for yeast/bacteria. Little to know

yeast found. This was several years ago.

Frustrating. He does drink enough water; his beverage of choice.

thanks,

Pam

> > I've thought about that, too. He does eat a lot of cheese/ice cream but does

not drink milk.

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How about some Biocidin?

[ ] Re: Bad, bad gas. What to do?

Not a big meat eater. I've used Houston's enzymes in the past and currently

use Creon (pancreatic enzyme). It seems to help a ton with fat/protein

metabolism but does not cut the gas at all. I have backed off the Creon to see

if that helps at all but it makes no difference (with gas) if we use it or not.

Historically, he's had clostridium overgrowth shown on stool tests. I just

don't know how reliable these tests are for yeast/bacteria. Little to know yeast

found. This was several years ago.

Frustrating. He does drink enough water; his beverage of choice.

thanks,

Pam

> > I've thought about that, too. He does eat a lot of cheese/ice cream but

does not drink milk.

>

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Culturelle was helpful here as well for bad gas/clostridia.

Really made a big difference.

>

> Not a big meat eater. I've used Houston's enzymes in the past and currently

use Creon (pancreatic enzyme). It seems to help a ton with fat/protein

metabolism but does not cut the gas at all. I have backed off the Creon to see

if that helps at all but it makes no difference (with gas) if we use it or not.

>

> Historically, he's had clostridium overgrowth shown on stool tests. I just

don't know how reliable these tests are for yeast/bacteria. Little to know

yeast found. This was several years ago.

>

> Frustrating. He does drink enough water; his beverage of choice.

>

> thanks,

>

> Pam

>

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