Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 OK..the teeth are fixed and I am ready to start. As much as I have done with my son ...I am still not a technical person. And reading the technical part of Andy's book is causing my OCD to go into overload LOL. So instead of recreating the wheel I thought it would just be easier to ask Andy directly. He is 62lbs and right now he is on TMG, Supernthru w/o A & D, cod liver oil, probitics and anti-fungals when needed. These supplements really only started working for us after doing alternative medicine. He is on a gluten free, casine free, lutein free, fiengold and SCD combination diet. And it works well for him. Do you recommend we add any supplements to his diet once we start chelating? If so which ones? Should up the Supernthru dosage during chelation? Has sulfur medicine allergies. Do you recommend doing only ALA and not ALA/DMSA combination? Will ALA be effective enough on its own? What is the ALA & DMSA dosage for 62lbs? I am to give it to him every 4 hours for 3 day straight (including nights), correct? Do you recommend at the end of the 3 days to give activated charcoal to try to absorbs the mercury that is trying to redistribute? Finally, what should I see,  good and bad, and what is the time frame? I mean, how long do you estimate I should chelate and will there be platues and/or regression? I know that you can't totally answer the last question but could you just give me some type of idea of what to aspect (good and bad). Thanks! Mari  ________________________________ From: Mari Lynche <mari.lynche@...> Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 10:01:44 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Question for Andy  Thanks ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Ross <mrossgrpgmail (DOT) com> Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 6:44:03 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Question for Andy mari.lynche wrote: > > Hi > > My son was diagnosed with autism at 3 and he is 11 now. We > have done a lot of treatments with him with some good improvements. We > started of with DAN doctors and did chelation with iv & suppositories > of DMSA, DMSP & EDTA. The results had me go alternative medicine > (homeopath, a form of NAET and other energy medicine) and of course > diet. Our last practioner we have had the best results but she keeps > coming back to chelation (which we had him hair tested years ago and > had high mercury). She wants to do the clay baths but my heart keeps > saying ALA. I got your book and I was planning on starting it next week. > > Here is the problem. Last night my son came to me saying his tooth > hurt. I looked in his mouth and found a cavity on one of his back > teeth. I know I have to take him to a denist to fill it but what is OK > to put in his mouth to fill the cavity, how long before I can chelate > after it has been filled and so on???? > As long as you use a composite (resin) filling, not amalgam (mercury), you can start chelating immediately. > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > Mari > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ======= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Mari Lynche wrote: > > > OK..the teeth are fixed and I am ready to start. As much as I have > done with my son ...I am still not a technical person. And > reading the technical part of Andy's book is causing my OCD to go into > overload LOL. So instead of recreating the wheel I thought it would > just be easier to ask Andy directly. > > He is 62lbs and right now he is on TMG, Supernthru w/o A & D, cod liver > oil, probitics and anti-fungals when needed. These supplements really > only started working for us after doing alternative medicine. > I don't know what you mean by this. Supplements _ARE_ " alternative medicine " . > He is on a gluten free, casine free, lutein free, fiengold and SCD > combination diet. And it works well for him. > > Do you recommend we add any supplements to his diet once we start > chelating? If so which ones? > C, E, magnesium, zinc, milk thistle, molybdenum, B-25. For dosage, see the list on p.134 of AI that starts with " If you have a REALLY... " > Should up the Supernthru dosage during chelation? > Can you post a link to the manufacturer of this or a complete list of ingredients and amounts per cap? Or are you talking about " Kirkman Labs Super Nu-Thera " ? If so, this is pretty wimpy. Just add the supps above. > Has sulfur medicine allergies. > He probably doesn't. He probably has allergies to " sulfa " which is a kind of antibiotic and has NOTHING to do with sulfur. It's a common confusion. > Do you recommend doing only ALA and not ALA/DMSA combination? Will ALA > be effective enough on its own? > Yes. > What is the ALA & DMSA dosage for 62lbs? > Start with 8mg for several rounds. Adjust up or down according to reactions. Never go higher than 30mg. > I am to give it to him every 4 hours for 3 day straight (including > nights), correct? > ALA is every THREE hours. > Do you recommend at the end of the 3 days to give activated charcoal > to try to absorbs the mercury that is trying to redistribute? > Finally, what should I see, good and bad, and what is the time frame? > If absolutely nothing happens good and there are no bad things (more symptoms,worsening of symptoms) happening during or in the days after the round, then try something else after 6 rounds. > I mean, how long do you estimate I should chelate > 100-300 rounds if there is improvement at the beginning. > and will there be platues and/or regression? > You have done so much inappropriate chelation, it's hard to tell what will happen. You have not talked about his symptoms. What are they? > I know that you can't totally answer the last question but could you > just give me some type of idea of what to aspect (good and bad). > > Thanks! > Mari > > > > ________________________________ > From: Mari Lynche <mari.lynche@... <mailto:mari.lynche%40>> > > <mailto: %40> > Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 10:01:44 PM > Subject: Re: [ ] Question for Andy > > > Thanks > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Ross <mrossgrpgmail (DOT) com> > > Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 6:44:03 PM > Subject: Re: [ ] Question for Andy > > mari.lynche wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > My son was diagnosed with autism at 3 and he is 11 now. We > > have done a lot of treatments with him with some good improvements. We > > started of with DAN doctors and did chelation with iv & suppositories > > of DMSA, DMSP & EDTA. The results had me go alternative medicine > > (homeopath, a form of NAET and other energy medicine) and of course > > diet. Our last practioner we have had the best results but she keeps > > coming back to chelation (which we had him hair tested years ago and > > had high mercury). She wants to do the clay baths but my heart keeps > > saying ALA. I got your book and I was planning on starting it next week. > > > > Here is the problem. Last night my son came to me saying his tooth > > hurt. I looked in his mouth and found a cavity on one of his back > > teeth. I know I have to take him to a denist to fill it but what is OK > > to put in his mouth to fill the cavity, how long before I can chelate > > after it has been filled and so on???? > > > As long as you use a composite (resin) filling, not amalgam (mercury), > you can start chelating immediately. > > > > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Mari > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ======= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 > OK..the teeth are fixed and I am ready to start. Open his mouth and look in and make really sure you do NOT see metal. Unfortunately there are some unethical ADA worshipping dentists who will place amalgam even when you tell them not to. So you have to check, even though most dentists are completely honest and ethical. > As much as I have done with my son ...I am still not a technical person. And reading the technical part of Andy's book is causing my OCD to go into overload LOL. So instead of recreating the wheel I thought it would just be easier to ask Andy directly. who will tell you to repeatedly read pages 235-240 and 245-247 of Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities until you can practically recite it to me because it is IMPORTANT you understand or at least know by rote what is in them. > He is 62lbs and right now he is on TMG, Supernthru w/o A & D, cod liver oil, probitics and anti-fungals when needed. These supplements really only started working for us after doing alternative medicine. He is on a gluten free, casine free, lutein free, fiengold and SCD combination diet. And it works well for him. > > Do you recommend we add any supplements to his diet The vitamins C, E, magnesium and zinc as mentioned in the sections cited above. >once we start chelating? At all times until he is all better. >If so which ones? Should up the Supernthru dosage during chelation? I'm not sure if you mean Super Nu Thera or some other brand. Whatever you're using, just stand pat. Add the above to it. > Has sulfur medicine allergies. This may mean he is allergic to SULFA DRUGS, which is legitimate and no chelators are sulfa drugs so it doesn't matter, or it may mean you saw an incompetent fool pretending to be a health care practitioner who chanted about 'sulfur drugs' and 'sulfur intolerance' to help you keep your kid sick while they looted you. Doesn't matter either way, he has no more or less risk of not tolerating the chelators as anyone else before they start. > Do you recommend doing only ALA and not ALA/DMSA combination? Not based on anything you've said. >Will ALA be effective enough on its own? Yes. > What is the ALA & DMSA dosage for 62lbs? More or less 15 mg of each. Adjust as you wish and as side effects dictate. > I am to give it to him every 4 hours for 3 day straight (including nights), correct? Yup. 4 hours is fine for DMSA only. Some people are OK on 4 hours for ALA, some need to do that every 3 hours. Most of those are OK with 3 during the day and 4 at night. > Do you recommend at the end of the 3 days to give activated charcoal to try to absorbs the mercury that is trying to redistribute? No. It doesn't work for that. > Finally, what should I see,  good and bad, and what is the time frame? You should see some kind of response within 5 cycles (weekends) of chelation. > I mean, how long do you estimate I should chelate and will there be platues and/or regression? I know that you can't totally answer the last question but could you just give me some type of idea of what to aspect (good and bad). You may wish to make reference to figure 15 on page 52 of Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment for what to expect. Again, study this, it is important. Usually there are a few months of improvement, then a many month long period of stalled progress or regression during which it is important to keep chelating, then progress eventually resumes. This is always confusing when it is happening. Usually after it is all over you can figure out what happened when. At the time you just worry a lot. That's why it is important to understand what to expect, and that there is no precise timeline. How long things take varies from person to person. Andy http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD > Thanks! > Mari > > >  > > > > ________________________________ > From: Mari Lynche <mari.lynche@...> > > Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 10:01:44 PM > Subject: Re: [ ] Question for Andy > >  > Thanks > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Ross <mrossgrpgmail (DOT) com> > > Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 6:44:03 PM > Subject: Re: [ ] Question for Andy > > mari.lynche wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > My son was diagnosed with autism at 3 and he is 11 now. We > > have done a lot of treatments with him with some good improvements. We > > started of with DAN doctors and did chelation with iv & suppositories > > of DMSA, DMSP & EDTA. The results had me go alternative medicine > > (homeopath, a form of NAET and other energy medicine) and of course > > diet. Our last practioner we have had the best results but she keeps > > coming back to chelation (which we had him hair tested years ago and > > had high mercury). She wants to do the clay baths but my heart keeps > > saying ALA. I got your book and I was planning on starting it next week. > > > > Here is the problem. Last night my son came to me saying his tooth > > hurt. I looked in his mouth and found a cavity on one of his back > > teeth. I know I have to take him to a denist to fill it but what is OK > > to put in his mouth to fill the cavity, how long before I can chelate > > after it has been filled and so on???? > > > As long as you use a composite (resin) filling, not amalgam (mercury), > you can start chelating immediately. > > > > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Mari > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ======= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Thanks Andy!! * They pulled the tooth because the permanent one was right under it and he has never had any caps or filings. This was his first cavity ever. Unfortunately, I have a bunch of amalgams in the back of my mouth since I was probably 10 years old. * He was diagnosed with G6PD Deficiency after becoming very ill after being prescribed an antibiotic for an illness when he was about 1 years old. That is how I found out about the sulfur allergy. *  And yes I meant Super Nu Thera. Sorry about the spelling. LOL * Finally, I will read the pages you suggested. We did a hair test years ago and he had high mercury, cadmium and aluminum. ________________________________ From: andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...> Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 2:12:48 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Ready to Start...Questions..Andy  > OK..the teeth are fixed and I am ready to start. Open his mouth and look in and make really sure you do NOT see metal. Unfortunately there are some unethical ADA worshipping dentists who will place amalgam even when you tell them not to. So you have to check, even though most dentists are completely honest and ethical. > As much as I have done with my son ...I am still not a technical person. And reading the technical part of Andy's book is causing my OCD to go into overload LOL. So instead of recreating the wheel I thought it would just be easier to ask Andy directly. who will tell you to repeatedly read pages 235-240 and 245-247 of Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities until you can practically recite it to me because it is IMPORTANT you understand or at least know by rote what is in them. > He is 62lbs and right now he is on TMG, Supernthru w/o A & D, cod liver oil, probitics and anti-fungals when needed. These supplements really only started working for us after doing alternative medicine. He is on a gluten free, casine free, lutein free, fiengold and SCD combination diet. And it works well for him. > > Do you recommend we add any supplements to his diet The vitamins C, E, magnesium and zinc as mentioned in the sections cited above. >once we start chelating? At all times until he is all better. >If so which ones? Should up the Supernthru dosage during chelation? I'm not sure if you mean Super Nu Thera or some other brand. Whatever you're using, just stand pat. Add the above to it. > Has sulfur medicine allergies. This may mean he is allergic to SULFA DRUGS, which is legitimate and no chelators are sulfa drugs so it doesn't matter, or it may mean you saw an incompetent fool pretending to be a health care practitioner who chanted about 'sulfur drugs' and 'sulfur intolerance' to help you keep your kid sick while they looted you. Doesn't matter either way, he has no more or less risk of not tolerating the chelators as anyone else before they start. > Do you recommend doing only ALA and not ALA/DMSA combination? Not based on anything you've said. >Will ALA be effective enough on its own? Yes. > What is the ALA & DMSA dosage for 62lbs? More or less 15 mg of each. Adjust as you wish and as side effects dictate. > I am to give it to him every 4 hours for 3 day straight (including nights), correct? Yup. 4 hours is fine for DMSA only. Some people are OK on 4 hours for ALA, some need to do that every 3 hours. Most of those are OK with 3 during the day and 4 at night. > Do you recommend at the end of the 3 days to give activated charcoal to try to absorbs the mercury that is trying to redistribute? No. It doesn't work for that. > Finally, what should I see,  good and bad, and what is the time frame? You should see some kind of response within 5 cycles (weekends) of chelation. > I mean, how long do you estimate I should chelate and will there be platues and/or regression? I know that you can't totally answer the last question but could you just give me some type of idea of what to aspect (good and bad). You may wish to make reference to figure 15 on page 52 of Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment for what to expect. Again, study this, it is important. Usually there are a few months of improvement, then a many month long period of stalled progress or regression during which it is important to keep chelating, then progress eventually resumes. This is always confusing when it is happening. Usually after it is all over you can figure out what happened when. At the time you just worry a lot. That's why it is important to understand what to expect, and that there is no precise timeline. How long things take varies from person to person. Andy http://www.noamalga m.com/index. html Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment http://www.noamalga m.com/hairtestbo ok.html Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities http://www.noamalga m.com/nourishing hope.html Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children http://www.noamalga m.com/biological treatments. html Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD > Thanks! > Mari > > >  > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Mari Lynche <mari.lynche@ ...> > > Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 10:01:44 PM > Subject: Re: [ ] Question for Andy > >  > Thanks > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Ross <mrossgrpgmail (DOT) com> > > Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 6:44:03 PM > Subject: Re: [ ] Question for Andy > > mari.lynche wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > My son was diagnosed with autism at 3 and he is 11 now. We > > have done a lot of treatments with him with some good improvements. We > > started of with DAN doctors and did chelation with iv & suppositories > > of DMSA, DMSP & EDTA. The results had me go alternative medicine > > (homeopath, a form of NAET and other energy medicine) and of course > > diet. Our last practioner we have had the best results but she keeps > > coming back to chelation (which we had him hair tested years ago and > > had high mercury). She wants to do the clay baths but my heart keeps > > saying ALA. I got your book and I was planning on starting it next week. > > > > Here is the problem. Last night my son came to me saying his tooth > > hurt. I looked in his mouth and found a cavity on one of his back > > teeth. I know I have to take him to a denist to fill it but what is OK > > to put in his mouth to fill the cavity, how long before I can chelate > > after it has been filled and so on???? > > > As long as you use a composite (resin) filling, not amalgam (mercury), > you can start chelating immediately. > > > > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Mari > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ======= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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