Introduction and Questions

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In a message dated 9/4/00 2:45:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mamma2hannah@... writes:

<< 1.) Since my husband is from Sweden (I am also of Swedish heritage and have

family there) we will be flying home to Sweden at least once or twice a

year. Given the large amount of germs and circulated air in planes at what

time would it be considered " safe " to fly with a child? Is there a good

amount of time we should wait in which to build up our child's immunity? The

immunity factor is not the only concern regarding air travel, we've been

" warned " by family and friends in Sweden that there's been much publicity

surrounding the death of some Swedish children on airplanes and supposedly

" experts " in Sweden are saying it's not safe to travel until a child is at

least 9 months of age.\ >>

I've never heard about not flying with a chidl younger than 9 months. Of

course, it's not something I ever particularly Researched, but still haven't

heard. I wouldn't see why. Of course, you are in closed quarters for several

hours on such a long flight. But, breastfed, unimunized babies are normally

very healthy. So, I'd check out the things you'd mention, see if there is any

truth to it and go from there.

<<

2.) Vaccinations and shots given in the hospital (yes, we will be going to a

hospital, I have several health problems that require I give birth there)-

we're going to have a birth plan and in it we're going to boldly state that

we wish our child to have NO vaccinations. We are concerned, however, about

the Vitamin K shot - is this " required " in any way? If I was going to do a

homebirth would a midwife normally give this shot? I'm getting conflicting

information about whether or not it's safe and would love to hear your

opinions regarding this.

>>

Vitamin K is not " Required " you have to sign off on having it, but you don't

HAVE to have it. Keep in mind though, if you plan on circing (I assume you

don't-given DH is from sweden, they dont' circ there do they?) you will have

to give vit. k. I didn't have vit. k with either baby. I also gave birth in

the hospital both times witha midwife.. In my area, there are no

freestanding birth centers, (last one that was here just closed, but it was

pretty far from me) and only 1 lay midwife goes homebirths. She has a habit

of not always showing up...sometimes she's with someone else. So, that was my

option. YOu can have a nice hospital birth! Just tell them what you want and

be confindant, but nice, about it. I've had wonderful births. Especailly my

second one, My first one I ha da few complications, but it was still great,

and just the way I wanted it.

Good luck!

[Guest guest]

shelley,

hi and welcome to the list! how very fortunate (for your baby) that you've

researched all this before having a baby--i sure wish i did!!! we recently

took our son with us (when he was 8 months old) on an east coast/west coast

trip, NY to CA and experienced no problems during or after the trip--he was a

great traveler, i don't have any info on that for you, sorry.

as far as, vitamin k shots go--they are mandatory, but as with everything

mandatory, you can refuse (may have to sign a letter of consent), be

especially careful with shots in hospital--no matter what your birth plan

says. they do these things so quickly and routinely--you need to be

extremely on your toes--which can be rather hard to do when you are trying to

have a baby!! some midwives do vit.k, many do not. there were some good

articles on the list not long ago about vit.k, maybe someone can repost them

for you...

goo luck and again welcome!!

brigit

ps--the best thing you can do to prepare for hospital birth is to be

knowledgeable about what will take place. go visit the hospital, know where

everything is, you or your husband needs to stay with the baby at ALL times,

and go over your birth plan wishes with everyone there (and your

Dr.--thoroughly--before you are due--especially if you suspect you may not go

full term. things can get hectic, and it's hard to think of these things

when you are scared and things are happening fast).

[Guest guest]

First... Congratulations !! On your new baby and on educating

yourself!!

>1.) Since my husband is from Sweden (I am also of Swedish heritage and have

>family there) we will be flying home to Sweden at least once or twice a

>year. Given the large amount of germs and circulated air in planes at what

>time would it be considered " safe " to fly with a child? Is there a good

>amount of time we should wait in which to build up our child's immunity?

>The immunity factor is not the only concern regarding air travel, we've

>been " warned " by family and friends in Sweden that there's been much

>publicity surrounding the death of some Swedish children on airplanes and

>supposedly " experts " in Sweden are saying it's not safe to travel until a

>child is at least 9 months of age.

Well I have been traveling with my dd since she was 2 1/2 mo. old. All of

our family lives in other parts of the country and we also went overseas to

visit relatives in Germany. I just want to point out that breastfeeding and

not vaccinating doesn't mean your child won't get sick, but when your baby

does get sick and recovers his immune system is that much better at fighting

the next time. There was actually a study that said children who are

exposed to germs in the first year (I believe -or 6 mo.) are less likely to

develop asthma. You have to not fear sickness or illnesses. Our bodies

have fevers and vomit, etc. because that is the bodies way of getting rid of

the problem. My dd has been on MANY flights (14 counting both ways since

each time is separate exposure) and during 1 flight and the day after

another, she got sick. The first was the first time she was sick at about 3

1/2 mo. it took her about 2 weeks to fully recover. But the next time, she

was over it within a day. She is one year now! And very healthy!!

I don't really know what you are referring to about deaths in babies and

waiting until 9 mo??? Is this from turbulence or what? You can buy a sling

or a special harness that the baby can ride in on the plane and still sit in

your lap. I used a sling some of the time.

The only concern I had was waiting until after 2 mo. for her eardrums to be

fully develop. And I always breastfed going up and coming down so her ears

would pop. I highly recommend this!!!

>2.) Vaccinations and shots given in the hospital (yes, we will be going to

>a hospital, I have several health problems that require I give birth

>there)-

Sorry to hear that you have been having problems. Have you looked into a

doula or a midwfie that can deliver in the hospital?

>We are concerned, however, about the Vitamin K shot - is this " required " in

>any way? If I was going to do a

>homebirth would a midwife normally give this shot? I'm getting conflicting

>information about whether or not it's safe and would love to hear your

>opinions regarding this.

I am not sure about WA but FL where I had my homebirth every baby is

required to get it unless you sign a waiver. All babies are born with low

vit k and unless they are going to have some kind of surgery (such as

circumcision) it is not a big deal. At about day 8 they say the vit K

increases naturally which is why Jewish people hold off on circumcision.

The vit K also increases the possiblity of jaundice and/or makes it more

severe. I learned this one the hard way! My daughter had a bruised head

and the midwife thought it might be a good idea. Really it did nothing

except add to her jaundice from her immature liver trying to breakdown all

the dead blood cells and the vit K.

>3.) We're also looking for any " non-vaccination friendly " doctors in the

>Seattle, Washington area or on the West Coast of Sweden (Gothenburg).

>Because we still own a home, have assets and a large amount of family we

>are planning on going back and forth between the two countries as finances

>and time permits.

I am sure someone here will have some info for you this. Can't help here as

we are in NYC. But I will point out that it is such a relief to not be

hassled by a dr. about this issue.

Kim in NYC

Mom to (1 yr!!!)

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[Guest guest]

welcome shelley

I traveled with my daughter on an airplane at 4 months she bf and un-vaxed. I

didn't have any problems. I hope this helps.

rebecca (SAHM Zia 4/4/00)

[Guest guest]

For the person wondering about air travel, I traveled with my daughter

at 6 weeks and we had no problems. She nursed going up and coming down

and did far better then me on one section that had a small puddle jumper

plane.

KisMarti@... wrote:

>

>

> welcome shelley

>

> I traveled with my daughter on an airplane at 4 months she bf and un-vaxed. I

> didn't have any problems. I hope this helps.

>

> rebecca (SAHM Zia 4/4/00)

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Any information obtained here is not to be construed as medical

OR legal advice. The decision to vaccinate and how you

implement that decision is yours and yours alone.

[Guest guest]

> 2.) Vaccinations and shots given in the hospital (yes, we will be going to a

> hospital, I have several health problems that require I give birth there)-

> we're going to have a birth plan and in it we're going to boldly state that

> we wish our child to have NO vaccinations.

Make sure your child is never out of sight. There should be absolutely no

reason, assuming a healthy baby, why the nurses can't perform any routine

procedures (bathing, exams, shots, weighing, etc) in your room (or at least with

you or a family member present) and you should be offered rooming in.

> We are concerned, however, about

> the Vitamin K shot - is this " required " in any way?

Assuming the laws are the same in US and in Canada, you are not legally required

to give the vit K shot.

> If I was going to do a

> homebirth would a midwife normally give this shot?

Only if you wanted her to. Midwives here in Ontario carry vit K and administer

it at home births, but it is (usually) an informed choice discussion (which you

probably won't get with a doctor/hospital).

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/11/00 9:20:44 PM Central Daylight Time,

b4alltoday@... writes:

<< Sara may not be complying with the

program because the program is NOT meeting her needs OR something medical is

going on and all of this behavior is a result. No matter what it is I need

to

go in to the school armed with questions. Since we are going to have another

new teacher I'm going to meet with the curriculum coordinator. She has been

the only constant factor in Sara's education heehee she's been to all of

Sara's IEP meetings since she started school 5 years ago. If your child all

of a sudden was coming up with these behaviors what questions would you be

asking? and to whom? Heehee I'm needing help in this area, I'm so broken

right now I want to meet with this coordinator having all of the right

questions, maybe then we can get to the bottom of all of this. I'm NOT going

to wait on the finishing of the FBA.....shoot Sara could be sent to an

alternative school by then

Thank you again

Kathy mom to Sara 8..............feeling like I'm on hold uggggggggg Gail

you

want to run off with our kids

>>

Kathy,

I only have a minute but, if it was medical then I would guess that you would

see an increase in behavior at home. Maybe not to the degree that school is

seeing but something.

I guess I would look at what is happening differently this year than last.

This neg. stuff must be getting reinforced and the positive isn't if she is

increasing the neg. and decreasing the pos. I'd focus on increasing those

positives and giving her structure until she is over this glitch.

Good luck,

Karyn

[Guest guest]

Kathy, did do this. He did this every time there was a serious

transition. He just couldn't cope with all the changes at once and could

not explain the problem. We asked folks at school to minimize his

transitions and if they couldn't, to please explain to him that he would

have changes coming up. This helped a great deal. We also had reminders

all the time about keeping your hands and feet to yourself. He did have to

apologize to the kids he had hurt. I don't think this is punitive. We also

got his peers involved in telling him that things hurt when he did that and

to keep his hands and feet to himself. I'd ask what they have tried. Sara

is responding to something. We asked them to do data and look for

antecedents and document them. would get upset with one kid and

take it out on another (the closest). Just some ideas. Hope it helps. I

dread when we leave and have to change again.

Elaine

Introduction and questions

>

> HI

>

> Heehee got you all, it's just me Kathy

>

> After last week I wanted a change, I considered my hair hmmmmmm new cut or

> color......since Sara's making me gray right now. So I decided to change

my

> name, heehee nothing like a new name. So you all update your address books

> and add me. I making this name top priority and having all my Upsndowns

mail

> come here.

>

> After surviving a woeful week (last week) I sent Sara to school today with

a

> smile. Reminded her to mind and listen to her teachers. To be kind to her

> friends and STAY out of trouble. She gave me a high five and jumped out of

my

> car to start a new week.

>

> I picked her up from school and immediately she told me she was bad. Her

> buddy told me " Sara got into big trouble today " . We had to slink out

of

> the school before anyone would notice me. I waited until I got home to

read

> her communication book. I was a bit afraid that I might put Sara out on

the

> street if it was too bad heehee

>

> Well, Sara has done it now, today had to be the worst day in history,

here's

> a recap: She started the day off hitting another student, moved on to

> refusing to write her spelling words, then she hit a kid in the lunch

line.

> She went off to PE, again refused to do as told, even after many

> redirection's. She was put in time out where she " hit the teacher " ugggggg

> this got her sent to the Principals office. After a chat with the

principal

> she was sent to Science. The teacher there said she did great during the

> lesson but during a video she kicked a little girl in the head the day

> ended with good session in math.

>

> OK, Sara can be ornery, really she's mainly mouthy, like she'll tell you

> " you're mean " or that she " can't do " something. She may even call you a

silly

> name like melon head but never has she been this disobedient, to the point

of

> hurting other kids or striking a teacher or refusing to work. Sometimes

she

> plays rough, which can be misinterpreted, samething with the name calling.

>

> Well, to top everything off her Resource teacher quit today, a note was

sent

> home in the backpack. I'm still undecided if this is a good thing or bad

> thing. This is my view on all of this: Sara may not be complying with the

> program because the program is NOT meeting her needs OR something medical

is

> going on and all of this behavior is a result. No matter what it is I need

to

> go in to the school armed with questions. Since we are going to have

another

> new teacher I'm going to meet with the curriculum coordinator. She has

been

> the only constant factor in Sara's education heehee she's been to all of

> Sara's IEP meetings since she started school 5 years ago. If your child

all

> of a sudden was coming up with these behaviors what questions would you be

> asking? and to whom? Heehee I'm needing help in this area, I'm so broken

> right now I want to meet with this coordinator having all of the right

> questions, maybe then we can get to the bottom of all of this. I'm NOT

going

> to wait on the finishing of the FBA.....shoot Sara could be sent to an

> alternative school by then

>

> Thank you again

>

> Kathy mom to Sara 8..............feeling like I'm on hold uggggggggg Gail

you

> want to run off with our kids

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

I noticed these behaviors with when he was frustrated or unhappy with a

situation. Now, is in a private school where their belief is that

negative notes home aren't the answer. I personally like this. They take

it upon themselves to let you know of a situation and what they are going to

do to correct the problem. I of course have final say, but they are the

professionals and it is their responsibility to see the problem and make

recommendations to see if something else will work. I know this doesn't

happen in a public school setting. They are not " experts " on our kids and

sometimes, even tho they deal with " special " kids they don't have the

expertise for DS kids.

I know I am rambling but I have been where both you and Gail are now.

is able to figure out who he can mess with and what he can get away with

very easily. :-) Also, his language delays make it impossible to

communicate his dissatisfaction with a given situation and acting out was

his way of telling me something wasn't right. Now that he is in an

environment where he knows what to expect and what is expected of him, what

he can get away with and what he can't, he is handling things much better

and learning wonderfully!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am amazed how well he has been

doing since he started this school last year. Now, that is not to say that

he is an angel all the time but there has been a definite improvement.

Good luck and " listen " to what Sara (and Ted) are saying.

Dawn (Mom to 7ds)

Introduction and questions

HI

Heehee got you all, it's just me Kathy

After last week I wanted a change, I considered my hair hmmmmmm new cut or

color......since Sara's making me gray right now. So I decided to change my

name, heehee nothing like a new name. So you all update your address books

and add me. I making this name top priority and having all my Upsndowns mail

come here.

After surviving a woeful week (last week) I sent Sara to school today with a

smile. Reminded her to mind and listen to her teachers. To be kind to her

friends and STAY out of trouble. She gave me a high five and jumped out of

my

car to start a new week.

I picked her up from school and immediately she told me she was bad. Her

buddy told me " Sara got into big trouble today " . We had to slink out

of

the school before anyone would notice me. I waited until I got home to read

her communication book. I was a bit afraid that I might put Sara out on the

street if it was too bad heehee

Well, Sara has done it now, today had to be the worst day in history, here's

a recap: She started the day off hitting another student, moved on to

refusing to write her spelling words, then she hit a kid in the lunch line.

She went off to PE, again refused to do as told, even after many

redirection's. She was put in time out where she " hit the teacher " ugggggg

this got her sent to the Principals office. After a chat with the principal

she was sent to Science. The teacher there said she did great during the

lesson but during a video she kicked a little girl in the head the day

ended with good session in math.

OK, Sara can be ornery, really she's mainly mouthy, like she'll tell you

" you're mean " or that she " can't do " something. She may even call you a

silly

name like melon head but never has she been this disobedient, to the point

of

hurting other kids or striking a teacher or refusing to work. Sometimes she

plays rough, which can be misinterpreted, samething with the name calling.

Well, to top everything off her Resource teacher quit today, a note was sent

home in the backpack. I'm still undecided if this is a good thing or bad

thing. This is my view on all of this: Sara may not be complying with the

program because the program is NOT meeting her needs OR something medical is

going on and all of this behavior is a result. No matter what it is I need

to

go in to the school armed with questions. Since we are going to have another

new teacher I'm going to meet with the curriculum coordinator. She has been

the only constant factor in Sara's education heehee she's been to all of

Sara's IEP meetings since she started school 5 years ago. If your child all

of a sudden was coming up with these behaviors what questions would you be

asking? and to whom? Heehee I'm needing help in this area, I'm so broken

right now I want to meet with this coordinator having all of the right

questions, maybe then we can get to the bottom of all of this. I'm NOT going

to wait on the finishing of the FBA.....shoot Sara could be sent to an

alternative school by then

Thank you again

Kathy mom to Sara 8..............feeling like I'm on hold uggggggggg Gail

you

want to run off with our kids

[Guest guest]

Hello Wanda !

Welcome to our group. After reading your e-mail I think it will be a good idea

for you to see a liver specialist. You mentioned that you have not been able to locate one in Tulsa and I did some research and found this md in your area

Dr Harvet Tatum MD

Oklahoma Gastroenterology Associates

1145 S Utica, Suite #701

Tulsa, Oklahoma 74104

(918) 582-6544

Maybe this is close to your home and you could check it out. Since you are

the patient it is vital for you to be aware of your current medical condition

so whichever doctor you see must be able to tell you the findings with all

clarity. I believe usually when alcohol is involved the liver specialist waits

around six months for the time of your last drink to allow the alcohol to completly drain from your liver to perform a biopsy so they can obtain accurate results of any liver damage. My heart goes out to you and wish the

very best.

God Bless You,

Tony

[Guest guest]

Wanda, if your cirrhosis is alcohol related you might want to check with your MD and your insurance carrier regarding transplantation criteria.

My experience has been that the transplant team won't even look at you unless you have some documented proof (i.e rehab and AA mtg attendance) for at least 6 months straight.

Some insurance carriers won't consider paying for the cost of transplant untill one years sobriety has been met.

I don't recall you mentioning having AIH or other liver disease, but the fact that you were hospitalized after consuming alcohol would lead me to suspect your disease was alcohol related. Correct me if I am wrong.

Are liver transplants done anywhere near where you live or will you have to travel out of state for treatment? The reason I ask is that is because here in Abq, NM we had a liver transplant service up until two years ago. I would have to travel to California now. Check with your insurance carrier.

Jen

From: WBrownlee [mailto: xenochryst@...]

Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 02:46:50 -0500

Subject: [ ] Introduction and questions

>

>

>

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I'm new to the group. I've been lurking, trying to get a feel for what

> the

> group is all about. I was interested to note that not many of the

> emails

> I've seen so far are from folks with cirrhosis. That's my liver problem.

> I

> was diagnosed in late March of this year when I was taken to the hospital

> in

> what was, to all appearances, a coma. I recall having 4-5 shots of

> vodka

> Friday night and I don't remember anything at all except the pain of

> having

> a tube put in my nose until the following Friday. My bilirubin count was

> 9

> and I was very very jaundiced. I stayed in the hospital a week and by

> the

> time I left, it was 7. When I returned home, I set about trying to find

> a

> liver specialist but there aren't any in Tulsa, and only one in

> Oklahoma

> City. I began to see an internist here in my small town just after I

> was

> released. I was already off of all alcohol (and remain so, now). The Dr.

> who

> looked after me in the hospital told me that I was hyper-allergic to

> alcohol

> and that if I drank again, I would die. He said I had nearly died in

> the

> hospital. The internist took me off of all meat and told me to keep my

> diet

> as low in fat as possible. He also took me off of my pain medication (I

> had

> been in an 18 wheeler rollover the previous June and had had several

> operations on knees and elbow and had nearly died from blood clots in

> my

> lungs the previous September, so I was taking Lortab 5) and told me I

> could

> have only one aspirin a day. Needless to say, I am in a lot of pain

> besides

> the liver problems. A month later, I had lost 20 pounds and my

> bilirubin

> count was down to 1.4 and 1.7. It's remained at that level for 3 months

> now.

> I asked him about my condition and he said that my liver was fine for

> now.

> When asked to clarify his statement (I was afraid he meant that in 6

> months

> or a year, I would need a liver transplant), he would only say that it

> was

> fine for now.

>

> I had a disturbing conversation with my mother today about this,

> however.

> She also uses this Dr., and claims that he told her that my liver was

> gone

> and that if I lived a year, I could get on the liver transplant

> waiting

> list. I'm not certain that he really said that, and I'm not certain that

> she

> understood him, if he did. But it worried me, since she had withheld

> this

> information from me for 4 months, only telling me when I decided to go

> to

> another Dr. for treatment.

>

> I suppose my questions are not really well-formed, but that may be because

> I

> am so unfamiliar with this disease and no one has even told me how bad

> my

> liver is. No one has done a biopsy and I'm not even sure that I need one,

> or

> that it would tell me how badly I damaged my liver. I'd appreciate

> any

> feedback from the group on what I should be looking for with regards to

> my

> own care. And why is it that doctors feel they can just not tell you

> what's

> happening to your own body?

>

> I know I sound confused, and I apologize for that, but the truth is

> that

> I -am- confused. And I would very much appreciate any advice or

> information

> that anyone here cares to give.

>

> thanks in advance,

> Wanda

>

>

> My last known address was The Cliffs of Insanity

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Wanda at the Cliffs of Insanity,

I wonder if it is true what your doctor

said to your mother, because that is confidential information. Doctors are not

supposed to tell everyone within earshot such information. Why he should tell

her and not you is scary!

I hope you are doing well now and that

your liver chugs along for a long time.

AIH 2002

[ ]

Introduction and questions

Hello everyone,

I'm new to the group. I've been lurking, trying to

get a feel for what the

group is all about. I was interested to note that

not many of the emails

I've seen so far are from folks with cirrhosis.

That's my liver problem. I

was diagnosed in late March of this year when I

was taken to the hospital in

what was, to all appearances, a coma. I recall

having 4-5 shots of vodka

Friday night and I don't remember anything at all

except the pain of having

a tube put in my nose until the following Friday.

My bilirubin count was 9

and I was very very jaundiced. I stayed in the

hospital a week and by the

time I left, it was 7. When I returned home, I set

about trying to find a

liver specialist but there aren't any in Tulsa,

and only one in Oklahoma

City. I began to see an internist here in my small

town just after I was

released. I was already off of all alcohol (and

remain so, now). The Dr. who

looked after me in the hospital told me that I was

hyper-allergic to alcohol

and that if I drank again, I would die. He said I

had nearly died in the

hospital. The internist took me off of all meat

and told me to keep my diet

as low in fat as possible. He also took me off of

my pain medication (I had

been in an 18 wheeler rollover the previous June and

had had several

operations on knees and elbow and had nearly died

from blood clots in my

lungs the previous September, so I was taking

Lortab 5) and told me I could

have only one aspirin a day. Needless to say, I am

in a lot of pain besides

the liver problems. A month later, I had lost 20

pounds and my bilirubin

count was down to 1.4 and 1.7. It's remained at

that level for 3 months now.

I asked him about my condition and he said that my

liver was fine for now.

When asked to clarify his statement (I was afraid

he meant that in 6 months

or a year, I would need a liver transplant), he

would only say that it was

fine for now.

I had a disturbing conversation with my mother

today about this, however.

She also uses this Dr., and claims that he told

her that my liver was gone

and that if I lived a year, I could get on the

liver transplant waiting

list. I'm not certain that he really said that,

and I'm not certain that she

understood him, if he did. But it worried me,

since she had withheld this

information from me for 4 months, only telling me

when I decided to go to

another Dr. for treatment.

I suppose my questions are not really well-formed,

but that may be because I

am so unfamiliar with this disease and no one has

even told me how bad my

liver is. No one has done a biopsy and I'm not

even sure that I need one, or

that it would tell me how badly I damaged my

liver. I'd appreciate any

feedback from the group on what I should be

looking for with regards to my

own care. And why is it that doctors feel they can

just not tell you what's

happening to your own body?

I know I sound confused, and I apologize for that,

but the truth is that

I -am- confused. And I would very much appreciate

any advice or information

that anyone here cares to give.

thanks in advance,

Wanda

My last known address was The Cliffs of Insanity

[Guest guest]

Hi Wanda I am so sorry that you are so confused after all you have been through I would be as well. I was told in Nov 2001 that I had got Cirrhosis and it's scary. Try to stay well and eat a healthy diet I found that I cant eat red meat any more so just stick to chicken or fish. Also it doe's help if you can stay on a low fat diet I rarely eat anything with fat and I grill every thing. As the doctor has already told you no alcholol it doe's mess up the system and you don't need that. Has your doctor given you any medication ? Are you booked to have a biopsy?. The liver is a great organ in that it can repair it's self but I am afraid not with cirrhosis or AIH. Have as much rest as you can.

One thing that I am not sure about is. Over here in the UK the doctors are not allowed to tell any one about any medical problems with out your consent it is called the Hypocratic oath so here the doctor would not be allowed to tell your mum any thing. Just thought I would mention it. But i would have a word with your doctor he is the only one that can answer some of your questions. Hugs jeanette UK AIH dx 1998 Cirrhosis dx 1998

WBrownlee <xenochryst@...> wrote: Hello everyone,I'm new to the group. I've been lurking, trying to get a feel for what thegroup is all about. I was interested to note that not many of the emailsI've seen so far are from folks with cirrhosis. That's my liver problem. Iwas diagnosed in late March of this year when I was taken to the hospital inwhat was, to all appearances, a coma. I recall having 4-5 shots of vodkaFriday night and I don't remember anything at all except the pain of havinga tube put in my nose until the following Friday. My bilirubin count was 9and I was very very jaundiced. I stayed in the hospital a week and by thetime I left, it was 7. When I returned home, I set about trying to find aliver specialist but there aren't any in Tulsa, and only one in OklahomaCity. I began to see an internist here in my small town just after I wasreleased. I was already off of all alcohol (and remain so, now). The Dr. wholooked after me in the hospital told me that I was hyper-allergic to alcoholand that if I drank again, I would die. He said I had nearly died in thehospital. The internist took me off of all meat and told me to keep my dietas low in fat as possible. He also took me off of my pain medication (I hadbeen in an 18 wheeler rollover the previous June and had had severaloperations on knees and elbow and had nearly died from blood clots in mylungs the previous September, so I was taking Lortab 5) and told me I couldhave only one aspirin a day. Needless to say, I am in a lot of pain besidesthe liver problems. A month later, I had lost 20 pounds and my bilirubincount was down to 1.4 and 1.7. It's remained at that level for 3 months now.I asked him about my condition and he said that my liver was fine for now.When asked to clarify his statement (I was afraid he meant that in 6 monthsor a year, I would need a liver transplant), he would only say that it wasfine for now.I had a disturbing conversation with my mother today about this, however.She also uses this Dr., and claims that he told her that my liver was goneand that if I lived a year, I could get on the liver transplant waitinglist. I'm not certain that he really said that, and I'm not certain that sheunderstood him, if he did. But it worried me, since she had withheld thisinformation from me for 4 months, only telling me when I decided to go toanother Dr. for treatment.I suppose my questions are not really well-formed, but that may be because Iam so unfamiliar with this disease and no one has even told me how bad myliver is. No one has done a biopsy and I'm not even sure that I need one, orthat it would tell me how badly I damaged my liver. I'd appreciate anyfeedback from the group on what I should be looking for with regards to myown care. And why is it that doctors feel they can just not tell you what'shappening to your own body?I know I sound confused, and I apologize for that, but the truth is thatI -am- confused. And I would very much appreciate any advice or informationthat anyone here cares to give.thanks in advance,WandaMy last known address was The Cliffs of Insanity

[Guest guest]

Jen, it is definitely caused by alcohol, but unfortunately I -have- no

insurance. I had only worked for the company that's paying my worker's comp

for 6 days before my co-driver flipped the truck while I was in the bunk

sleeping, so I wasn't eligible for insurance at that time. And since this

wasn't directly related to the wreck, Prime won't pay for it, and rightly

so, I suppose. Once all my other doctors have released me, I'll have to be

retrained for other work, due to the osteoarthritis in my knees (I hit the

ceiling of the truck with them). My orthopedic surgeon said that I'd never

drive a truck again, so the company will release me from " employment " when

the doctor does.

Also, I'll be seeing another Dr. in about 4 weeks, but I'll be certain to

ask him about it. I'm hoping he'll be more upfront and open and honest with

me regarding my treatment and prognosis, in any case.

I'm not going to AA, but I have been seeing a psychologist (not about the

alcohol, I had NO trouble quitting that), but about the stress related

things for which I used it as a 'crutch'... the loss of my livelihood, the

trauma of the wreck and the attending physical damage to my body, my beloved

dad's death 3+ years ago... all things I had no way of dealing with, I

thought, except through alcohol. What didn't help my liver was that I was

also taking pain pills (not abusing them) which contained acetaminofen,

which exacerbates the effects of alcohol on the liver. Since you mentioned

that, though, I think I'll call The Oaks, here in town, and ask them. They

treat alcohol abuse, and since I'm making next to nothing, so far as money

is concerned, I should be able to qualify under the same state program that

I'm using for my psychologist visits.

I don't know if the transplants are done here or close by or not. Until

yesterday, I hadn't thought I stood much of a chance of needing one. I'll

ask my Dr when I see him, however.

I don't have any other liver related diseases. This one is enough, all by

itself. I still can hardly believe I did that to myself.

thank you for your response,

Wanda

My last known address was The Cliffs of Insanity

> Wanda, if your cirrhosis is alcohol related you might want to check with

your MD and your insurance carrier regarding transplantation criteria.

>

> My experience has been that the transplant team won't even look at you

unless you have some documented proof (i.e rehab and AA mtg attendance) for

at least 6 months straight.

>

> Some insurance carriers won't consider paying for the cost of transplant

untill one years sobriety has been met.

>

> I don't recall you mentioning having AIH or other liver disease, but the

fact that you were hospitalized after consuming alcohol would lead me to

suspect your disease was alcohol related. Correct me if I am wrong.

>

> Are liver transplants done anywhere near where you live or will you have

to travel out of state for treatment? The reason I ask is that is because

here in Abq, NM we had a liver transplant service up until two years ago. I

would have to travel to California now. Check with your insurance carrier.

>

> Jen

[Guest guest]

Tony, I wanted to say thank you for finding this Dr. for me. I called them

and got an appointment set up for August 26th. I don't understand why I

wasn't able to find one here. Perhaps I just wasn't looking in the right

place. Tulsa is only 40 minutes away, so it's not a strain to get there, and

I know it relatively well. I know exactly where this Dr. is located.

Hopefully this new Dr. will be much more open with me. I was getting really

upset with the internist I was seeing, not telling me what was happening

with my own body. I could easily kill myself, if I don't have the right

information!

Again, thank you for taking the time to find this Dr. I greatly appreciate

it.

Wanda

My last known address was The Cliffs of Insanity

> Hello Wanda !

>

> Welcome to our group. After reading your e-mail I think it will be a good

> idea

> for you to see a liver specialist. You mentioned that you have not been

able

> to locate one in Tulsa and I did some research and found this md in your

area

>

> Dr Harvet Tatum MD

> Oklahoma Gastroenterology Associates

> 1145 S Utica, Suite #701

> Tulsa, Oklahoma 74104

> (918) 582-6544

>

> Maybe this is close to your home and you could check it out. Since you are

> the patient it is vital for you to be aware of your current medical

condition

> so whichever doctor you see must be able to tell you the findings with all

> clarity. I believe usually when alcohol is involved the liver specialist

> waits

> around six months for the time of your last drink to allow the alcohol to

> completly drain from your liver to perform a biopsy so they can obtain

> accurate results of any liver damage. My heart goes out to you and wish

the

> very best.

>

> God Bless You,

>

> Tony

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Wanda:

Welcome to the group! I must say that I would definately find

another dr. and go about getting a biopsy. From what I understand

that truly is the only way to find out just what extent the damage

is to your liver and what may be the underlying cause.

I'm disturbed that first of all your dr. wouldn't tell you right out

what is going on with you and secondly that he would breach your

confidentiality and tell your mother. That alone really bugs me.

Anyway, please do see about finding a gastroenterologist or

hepatologist. Then you can start to really get answers.

Good Luck,

Rhonda/TN

> Hello everyone,

>

> I'm new to the group. I've been lurking, trying to get a feel for

what the

> group is all about. I was interested to note that not many of the

emails

> I've seen so far are from folks with cirrhosis. That's my liver

problem. I

> was diagnosed in late March of this year when I was taken to the

hospital in

> what was, to all appearances, a coma. I recall having 4-5 shots of

vodka

> Friday night and I don't remember anything at all except the pain

of having

> a tube put in my nose until the following Friday. My bilirubin

count was 9

> and I was very very jaundiced. I stayed in the hospital a week and

by the

> time I left, it was 7. When I returned home, I set about trying to

find a

> liver specialist but there aren't any in Tulsa, and only one in

Oklahoma

> City. I began to see an internist here in my small town just after

I was

> released. I was already off of all alcohol (and remain so, now).

The Dr. who

> looked after me in the hospital told me that I was hyper-allergic

to alcohol

> and that if I drank again, I would die. He said I had nearly died

in the

> hospital. The internist took me off of all meat and told me to

keep my diet

> as low in fat as possible. He also took me off of my pain

medication (I had

> been in an 18 wheeler rollover the previous June and had had

several

> operations on knees and elbow and had nearly died from blood clots

in my

> lungs the previous September, so I was taking Lortab 5) and told

me I could

> have only one aspirin a day. Needless to say, I am in a lot of

pain besides

> the liver problems. A month later, I had lost 20 pounds and my

bilirubin

> count was down to 1.4 and 1.7. It's remained at that level for 3

months now.

> I asked him about my condition and he said that my liver was fine

for now.

> When asked to clarify his statement (I was afraid he meant that in

6 months

> or a year, I would need a liver transplant), he would only say

that it was

> fine for now.

>

> I had a disturbing conversation with my mother today about this,

however.

> She also uses this Dr., and claims that he told her that my liver

was gone

> and that if I lived a year, I could get on the liver transplant

waiting

> list. I'm not certain that he really said that, and I'm not

certain that she

> understood him, if he did. But it worried me, since she had

withheld this

> information from me for 4 months, only telling me when I decided

to go to

> another Dr. for treatment.

>

> I suppose my questions are not really well-formed, but that may be

because I

> am so unfamiliar with this disease and no one has even told me how

bad my

> liver is. No one has done a biopsy and I'm not even sure that I

need one, or

> that it would tell me how badly I damaged my liver. I'd appreciate

any

> feedback from the group on what I should be looking for with

regards to my

> own care. And why is it that doctors feel they can just not tell

you what's

> happening to your own body?

>

> I know I sound confused, and I apologize for that, but the truth

is that

> I -am- confused. And I would very much appreciate any advice or

information

> that anyone here cares to give.

>

> thanks in advance,

> Wanda

>

>

> My last known address was The Cliffs of Insanity

[Guest guest]

Trish wrote:

>

> Hi -

>

> I just wanted introduce myself and say how much I have been

learning from reading the files. I feed my family according to

Nourishing Traditions, so I am excited to have found this group as I

battle candida.

==>Hi Trish. Welcome to our group. That's wonderful you are feeding

your family according to Nourishing Traditions. Just so other

members understand, Nourishing Traditions is a cookbook written by

Sally Fallon. It is not only a great cookbook, but it also contains a

wealth of knowledge about foods.

> I have thyroid/adrenal problems and was finally diagnosed with

candida by a naturopathic doctor several months ago. It is all

making sense to me now as all my problems started with thrush while I

was breastfeeding twins 2 1/2 yrs ago. The yeast became systemic 6

> months ago when it took over my GI system.

==>The yeast wouldn't have become systemic when you noticed it

affecting your GI system, it was in your GI system all along, but

maybe wasn't noticed. Most candida overgrowth happens in the gut and

spreads systemically from there. Even vaginal yeast starts in the

gut.

> My biggest candida systems are constipation and bloating. I read

the file on constipation, which was very helpful. But, I need some

guidance with the bloating. Even though I am sticking to the diet,

the bloating seems to be triggered by various foods and I never can

seem to find the pattern. I can have a better day and then eat the

same exact things the next day and blow up like a balloon. Any

suggestions on how to figure this out?

==>Bloating and gas are caused by candida overgrowing, and also by

candida being killed off, because candida puts out carbon dioxide

which causes the bloating and gas.

>

> I also have some food related questions.

>

> 1. Are sundried tomatoes acceptable? I use them rehydrated in

salad dressing.

==>If you buy sundried tomatoes and do not make them yourself they

will contain a lot of mold, and possibly fungi, like most dried foods.

> 2. Are black olives allowed?

==>Yes, but Suz, our professional chef can answer that question

better. Please post a separate message with Suz in the subject along

with Black Olives so she will notice your question. She is one of our

moderators.

> 3. Also, I know these aren't allowed in phase 1, but are kombucha

and kefir (made with raw milk ) allowed at any time?

==>Kombucha works because of the sugars, so no it wouldn't be okay

for candida. Kefir and yogurt even from raw milk and homemade are

not good for candida, because when they are fermented the lactose is

change to galactose, which is just another sugar.

> 4. And a non-food question. Has anyone else had or heard of a

vibrating sensation within your body? It has been suggested that

this is related to my thyroid or adrenals, but no one seems to know

for sure. It has been going on for 2 1/2 years, but has gotten worse

since I have started to treat the cåndida.

==>I had vibrating sensations in my body for years before I found out

I had candida. I think it is the panic the body is feeling

because " something " (candida) has gotten out of hand and the body

isn't able to deal with it. Candida also causes the thyroid and

adrenals to malfunction because candida toxins, which are mainly

alcohol, cause of the body's cells to go rigid which not only

interferes with the functioning of all of the body's organs and

systems, but also does not allow nutrients and hormones to enter the

cells where they are needed to do their job.

==>It is not advisable to treat your thyroid directly with

medications or iodine. As you overcome the candida thyroid hormones

will be better able to get into the cells, and the thyroid itself

will normalize. Read Bee's Personal Candida Story in the files

(after the folders) to see what I went through - I lost my thyroid

due to too much tampering with medications and too much iodine, etc.

They caused my thryoid to behave very irratically. Iodine is only

required in trace amounts by the body and too many people overdose on

it by taking kelp, seaweed, green foods, etc. There's plenty of

iodine in natural foods like butter and also in ocean sea salt.

> I know I will have more questions later, but this is a start!

TIA for your help.

==>You are welcome for the help Trish. You are well on your way

eating most of the right foods. You just need to tweak it because of

the candida.

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank-you so much Bee for your quick response! This is really helping me to put

the

puzzle pieces together which is very important to me.

Bee wrote:

> ==>The yeast wouldn't have become systemic when you noticed it

> affecting your GI system, it was in your GI system all along, but

> maybe wasn't noticed. Most candida overgrowth happens in the gut and

> spreads systemically from there. Even vaginal yeast starts in the

> gut.

Very interesting. I am beginning to realize I probably had candida overgrowth

before my

twins were born and the thrush developed. I just had no symptoms.

>

> ==>I had vibrating sensations in my body for years before I found out

> I had candida. I think it is the panic the body is feeling

> because " something " (candida) has gotten out of hand and the body

> isn't able to deal with it.

This is so great to know I am not the only one. I assume you do not vibrate

anymore now

that you are candida free!

> ==>It is not advisable to treat your thyroid directly with

> medications or iodine. As you overcome the candida thyroid hormones

> will be better able to get into the cells, and the thyroid itself

> will normalize. Read Bee's Personal Candida Story in the files

> (after the folders) to see what I went through - I lost my thyroid

> due to too much tampering with medications and too much iodine, etc.

> They caused my thryoid to behave very irratically. Iodine is only

> required in trace amounts by the body and too many people overdose on

> it by taking kelp, seaweed, green foods, etc. There's plenty of

> iodine in natural foods like butter and also in ocean sea salt.

This is the part that I am so confused by as I have just started seeing this

naturopathic

doctor who is treating my thyroid with stuff that contains kelp and bovine

thyroid gland. I

am also on low dose of synthroid. I read your story, Bee. Thanks so much for

directing

me. But now I am a bit frightened as I have been having more heart palpitations

lately and

dizziness starting yesterday. What you are saying does make sense to me,

though. I will

probably stop taking this stuff now and focus strictly on the candida.

I am thrilled to have this support in my journey to health! My kids and husband

want me

back to normal.

Trish

[Guest guest]

Welcome Trish! I just joined too, and am currently breastfeeding my son and

having HORRIBLE recurrent thrush! Did you find anything that helped you a lot?

Oh and I am also hypothyroid!

It is all making sense to me now as all my problems started

with thrush while I was breastfeeding twins 2 1/2 yrs ago.

[Guest guest]

I would stop the kombucha immediately. I was drinking

a lot of it and it seemed to exacerbate my candida.

The more I drank to to feel better the worse I felt.

The only things that really seem to make a difference

as far as my liver (besides this diet) are coffee

enemas and dry brushing. Welcome to the group!

in NC

--- Sol L <s_lederman@...> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I heard about this Group from the Magic bus

> (http://magicbus.myfreeforum.org/index.php). I've

> been

> intrigued with low carb, high fat, sufficient

> protein diets

> for a long time. My body has never really digested

> carbs very

> well so I'm now experimenting with the carnivore

> diet (very

> low carb - like 20 or 30 grams per day), or less.

>

> I have found this forum to be remarkably helpful,

> especially

> all of Bee's files of information. I was so

> impressed that I

> made a donation to encourage Bee to continue the

> support she

> gives.

>

> I'm the Chapter leader for the Weston A Price

> Foundation in Santa

> Fe, I started the Native Nutrition Group years

> ago (although I'm

> no longer active there) and I know a lot about

> healthy diets with

> healthy (animal and coconut) fats, fermented foods,

> bone broths, and

> such. So, maybe I can contribute helpful

> information.

>

> My liver has been stressed for several years. When I

> would do high

> fat before I'd feel discomfort in my liver/gall

> bladder area. Now,

> that I've virtually cut out carbs I don't feel any

> discomfort but I

> do feel fatigue and occasionally very mild nausea.

> So, I think my

> liver is still stressed. I'd like to make my high

> fat diet experiment

> a success and have some questions:

>

> 1. How can I best support my liver? I drink water

> with lemon juice and

> kombucha I brew myself. What other things would

> help?

>

> 2. Is fatigue normal when one transitions to high

> fat / low carb? If

> so, how can I handle the fatigue?

>

> 3. I've read that the liver works harder to handle

> fat from red meat

> than fat from chicken or fish. Is this true?

>

> 4. I've read from your web-site that coconut oil and

> butter don't

> require bile to digest. So, should I stick to lean

> protein sources and

> add coconut oil or butter to them?

>

> Thanks very much.

>

> Sol

>

>

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Everyone,

==>Hi Sol. Welcome to our group! I'm honored to have another Weston

A. Price Chapter Leader!

>

> I heard about this Group from the Magic bus

> (http://magicbus.myfreeforum.org/index.php). I've been

> intrigued with low carb, high fat, sufficient protein diets

> for a long time. My body has never really digested carbs very

> well so I'm now experimenting with the carnivore diet (very

> low carb - like 20 or 30 grams per day), or less.

==>If you've been intrigued by that kind of diet, you will also be

intrigued by Dr. Jan Kwasniewski's Optimal Diet (he's in Polan):

http://homodiet.netfirms.com/

==>He's been curing people of many diseases for over 30 years. I

based the ratios of protein to fat to carb I recommend on his diet.

>

> I have found this forum to be remarkably helpful, especially

> all of Bee's files of information. I was so impressed that I

> made a donation to encourage Bee to continue the support she

> gives.

==>Thanks so much Sol!

>

> I'm the Chapter leader for the Weston A Price Foundation in Santa

> Fe, I started the Native Nutrition Group years ago (although

I'm

> no longer active there) and I know a lot about healthy diets with

> healthy (animal and coconut) fats, fermented foods, bone broths, and

> such. So, maybe I can contribute helpful information.

>

> My liver has been stressed for several years. When I would do high

> fat before I'd feel discomfort in my liver/gall bladder area. Now,

> that I've virtually cut out carbs I don't feel any discomfort but I

> do feel fatigue and occasionally very mild nausea. So, I think my

> liver is still stressed. I'd like to make my high fat diet

experiment a success and have some questions:

>

> 1. How can I best support my liver? I drink water with lemon juice

and kombucha I brew myself. What other things would help?

==>I would not recommend you have kombucha; it contains alcohol which

is hard on the liver. I suggest you have my Electrolyte Drink, which

is 1/4 tsp. ocean sea salt and the juice of 1/2 lemon in 6 ounces of

water; I recommend it 6 times a day, 3 with meals to aid digestion.

==>Low carbs, high " good fats " and moderate protein will help your

liver a lot. Also you can drink teas that support the liver such as

slippery elm, dandelion or milk thistle. Mixing tea with the

Electrolyte Drink is a good combination. Did you know your liver

regenerates itself once a month?

==>The best thing to decongest and help the liver dump its toxins is

coffee enemas:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/enema1.php

==>Also do dry skin brushing:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat7.php

>

> 2. Is fatigue normal when one transitions to high fat / low carb? If

> so, how can I handle the fatigue?

==>Yes fatigue is common not only because it takes time for the body

to adjust to running on fats instead of carbs, but also as your body

adjusts and heals it is better able to get rid of toxins, and toxins

being released will cause fatigue.

>

> 3. I've read that the liver works harder to handle fat from red meat

> than fat from chicken or fish. Is this true?

==>I don't believe that is true. Our bodies are designed to handle

all animal fats as opposed to man-made fats. I eat more red meats

than any others and my liver is in great condition!

>

> 4. I've read from your web-site that coconut oil and butter don't

> require bile to digest. So, should I stick to lean protein sources

and add coconut oil or butter to them?

==>It is better to eat protein that contains as much natural fat as

you can find and avoid lean. Coconut oil is the best fat there is

for cooking. I also pour all of the coconut oil used in cooking over

the foods on my plate, as well as slattering butter on all of the

meats and veggies before eating them. It's delicious too.

To get enough fats try Bee's Raw Egg Drink:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/recipes/recipe167.php

Also I recommend you take all of these supplements:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu6_1_2.php

Take good care and keep us posted on how you do and if you have any

other questions.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> ==>I would not recommend you have kombucha; it contains alcohol which

> is hard on the liver.

Bee,

Thanks for a most helpful response. I'm off to the health food store

later today!

Are fermented veggies hard on the liver or not? I ferment raw cabbage.

Thanks.

Sol

[Guest guest]

>

> I would stop the kombucha immediately. I was drinking

> a lot of it and it seemed to exacerbate my candida.

> The more I drank to to feel better the worse I felt.

> The only things that really seem to make a difference

> as far as my liver (besides this diet) are coffee

> enemas and dry brushing. Welcome to the group!

> in NC

,

Thanks for your response. I'm stopping the kombucha.

Onto lemon water, coffee enemas, dry brushing, seasalt, teas, and

supplements.

Sol

[Guest guest]

> >

>

> > ==>I would not recommend you have kombucha; it contains alcohol

which

> > is hard on the liver.

>

> Bee,

>

> Thanks for a most helpful response. I'm off to the health food store

> later today!

>

> Are fermented veggies hard on the liver or not? I ferment raw

cabbage.

==>Hi Sol. No, fermented veggies are not hard on the liver.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello Bee and others,

>

> My name is . I am from the US but have lived in Switzerland

> for a little over a year now. I have had health problems for about

> 6 years now and have been searching for ways to heal myself. I

have tried a lot of different things but have been unsuccessful, and

I've just kept getting worse. My main issues are Hashimotos

Thyroiditis, fatigue, memory loss, Pyroluria, IBS, and a foggy slow

brain. Two years ago I found the Weston A. Price foundation and fell

in love with it. I have tried to follow the recommendations of the

group. I recently read a book that discussed candida and all the

harm it does and realized that it is (I believe) at the base of my

problems.

+++Hi . Welcome to our group.

> In searching on the internet I found Bee's website and fell in love

> with it also. I have read a lot on the website and on the forum

> now. Thank you all for the work you have done.

+++You are very welcome indeed!

>

> I have some questions:

>

> 1. I have switched over to the diet and most of the supplements.

I

> am still looking for a good EVO Coconut oil. It and other

> supplements are proving hard to find in Switzerland. Does anyone

> have recommendations for where in Europe to order good Coconut oil

> and other supplements? I have had my parents ship over some things,

> but it is quickly getting too expensive.

+++I'm sure other members will help you, but if they don't respond, I

suggest you post another message with: Supplements & Coconut Oil in

Europe? in the subject line to get their attention.

>

> 2. From the WAPF I have tried to mainly order whole foods

> supplements. I've been taking a Vitamin C supplement called Pure

> Radiance C from the The Synergy Company. It's made from Acerola

> Berries, Camu Camu and other berries. I'm guessing that it's not

> allowed? I thought I had read a while ago that ascorbic acid isn't

safe to take??

+++That vitamin C supplement is high in sugars, so it isn't good for

candida sufferers to take. It would be better to buy the kind of

vitamin C supplement I recommend:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp1.php

+++If ascorbic acid was unsafe to take, Orthomolecular Physicians

wouldn't have been successful using it to cure cancer over the last

60 years.

>

> 3. Also I found a HCL supplement that says it is beet-derived. It

> says there is not sugar in it. So would that be ok?

+++Yes, that is the correct kind of HCl (Betaine stands for beet),

but when it is derived it doesn't end up with sugars in it.

>

> 4. My tummy has been nauseous and heavy (although I've been very

> hungry) a lot since trying to switch over to the diet. I'm still

> trying to find the right HCL dosage (I'm up to 6).

+++You'll eventually find the correct dose that works for you. Also

try taking a capsule or two 40 minutes after meals, or even take 1-2

up to 2 hours after meals, which also helps a lot.

> I'm guessing also that my body is not ready for the fats, or it is

die-off symptoms or retracing, although I haven't had nausea in the

past. I have not started coconut oil yet. However when I take epsom

salt baths (another item very difficult to find and expensive here) I

feel a little better.

+++That is why it is important to change over to this program slowly -

ensure you read " Curing Candida, How to Get Started " ;

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

>

> 5. I am not craving carbs or anything, but once I start eating, I

> have a hard time stopping no matter what it is. I've had this for

a while before the diet. I rarely get a full feeling. Any thoughts?

+++As your digestion improves and you are absorbing more nutrients

from your foods and supplements, you will be less hungry. Also you

are able to consume enough high " good " fats it will satiate your

appetite very nicely.

>

> 5. My doctor recommended colon hydrotherapy instead of enemas. I

> know you recommend enemas. What are your thoughts?

+++If the practitioner does the colon hydrotherapy correctly, which

means very slowly putting in the fluids, without any force, they can

be good. However, too many practitioners try to rush the procedure

which causes a great deal of problems.

>

> 6. I've been feeling extremely exhausted and have had an extra hard

> time taking care of my kids. I maybe started too fast, but I don't

> know where to cut back, besides some fat. I don't want to have any

> grains.

+++You could try adding some higher carb vegetables instead of

grains, like potatoe, or beans (from pods) like lentils. Or try some

buckwheat, millet or quinoa, which are more seed-like than a grain.

Here's a good buckwheat pancake recipe:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/recipes/recipe186.php

You should do very well on this program since you got such a great

start at the Weston A. Price Foundation.

The best in health, Bee