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What tests did they perform to confirm a weak pancreas? Also, what symptoms

are you experiencing that indicate a weak pancreas?

Thanks

Kathy

Pancreas

> I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is the first

> priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains (which I

> don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian as a

child

> that damaged the pancreas.

>

> I have not been given the full program yet but two things related to

> pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive enzyme,

and

> Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas.

>

> I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas.

>

>

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I think having weak pancreas is part of the illness,especially at later

stages. I have the same problems. I have tried Pancreas complex by

Profesional Health products. Contains some

vitamins.minerals,pancreatin,pancreas tissue and some herbs.I am not sure if

I tolerated it well. I have stopped using it for the time being. I will

retry later.

Take care.

Nil

Pancreas

| I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is the first

| priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains (which I

| don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian as a

child

| that damaged the pancreas.

|

| I have not been given the full program yet but two things related to

| pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive enzyme,

and

| Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas.

|

| I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas.

|

|

|

|

|

| This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

|

|

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In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

bmfb@... writes:

> I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is the first

> priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains (which I

> don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian as a child

> that damaged the pancreas.

>

> I have not been given the full program yet but two things related to

> pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive enzyme,

> and

> Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas.

>

> I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas.

>

>

>

>

,

Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it rebuilds

pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a digestive

enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole Desicated

Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol.

I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments.

I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed, but I found

it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its heated and

processed...

Don

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Hi ,

Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various

organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't help

me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they made

me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though.

Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the

chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to

nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate

various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional Chinese

Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire with

gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work that

over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body.

Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe my

body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet.

Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx have

disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well enough

to have kids though.

Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know what I experienced and learned.

Tracey

rockford5@... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> bmfb@... writes:

>

>

> > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is the

> first

> > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains

> (which I

> > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian as

> a child

> > that damaged the pancreas.

> >

> > I have not been given the full program yet but two things related to

>

> > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive

> enzyme,

> > and

> > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas.

> >

> > I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> ,

>

> Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it rebuilds

> pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a

> digestive

> enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole

> Desicated

> Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol.

> I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments.

> I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed, but I

> found

> it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its heated

> and

> processed...

>

> Don

>

>

>

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Don,

Thanks, I'm glad to hear it was a success with you.

I just saw my doc and he explained that the Zymex will help detox penicilan

residue anywhere in the body, and that is one thing that hit the pancreas

hard.

Zypan I knew was for digestion and has pancreatin.

He gave me a combination glandular in protomorphigen form--those are

special cells to regenerate tissue. We tested the others you mentioned and I

did not want them. I have whole raw spleen already from Primezyme. I also

just got fresh buffalo pancreas today!

Are you on the primal diet with raw animal foods? I don't care what Aajonus

Vonderplanitz says, I know that some supplements can help and I need much

more than his diet. BTW, his new book came out this week.

So where are you at in your healing process? I have make lots of progress

but have a long way to go.

>

,

Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it rebuilds

pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a digestive

enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole Desicated

Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol.

I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments.

I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed, but I found

it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its heated and

processed...

Don

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Hello Tracey,

What you say makes sense. I have done gentle detoxing for four years. The

system of diagnoses (seemorgmatrix) uses muscle testing to prioritize what

to do first. He says that you have to start with only what the body can

handle and what is most holding it back. The muscle testing has been

consistant with my experiences tolerance. He explained that if you throw

supplements at problems your body is not read to solve then you waste time

and can feel worse. We'll see if this approach works. It has to go faster

because I cannot go on without working year after year.

Hi ,

Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various

organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't help

me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they made

me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though.

Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the

chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to

nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate

various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional Chinese

Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire with

gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work that

over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body.

Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe my

body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet.

Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx have

disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well enough

to have kids though.

Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know what I experienced and learned.

Tracey

rockford5@... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> bmfb@... writes:

>

>

> > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is the

> first

> > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains

> (which I

> > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian as

> a child

> > that damaged the pancreas.

> >

> > I have not been given the full program yet but two things related to

>

> > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive

> enzyme,

> > and

> > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas.

> >

> > I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> ,

>

> Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it rebuilds

> pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a

> digestive

> enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole

> Desicated

> Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol.

> I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments.

> I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed, but I

> found

> it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its heated

> and

> processed...

>

> Don

>

>

>

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Tracey,

What do you do to detox gentlly?

Thanks.

Nil

Re: Pancreas

|

| Hi ,

|

| Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various

| organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't help

| me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they made

| me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though.

| Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the

| chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to

| nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate

| various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional Chinese

| Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire with

| gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work that

| over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body.

|

| Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe my

| body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet.

| Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx have

| disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well enough

| to have kids though.

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Hi ,

Four years is a good long time! It sounds like the guy you're working

with knows what he's doing too. Another thing that can help organs is

Chi Gung. It's a healing form of Tai Chi. It has helped me alot.

Every morning I do " 6 Exhaling Chi Gung " before I get out of bed. And

I've taken a class for Chi Gung and meditation that has been really good

for me. Meditation can also help you're organs and whole body.

Tracey

BMFB wrote:

>

> Hello Tracey,

>

> What you say makes sense. I have done gentle detoxing for four

> years. The

> system of diagnoses (seemorgmatrix) uses muscle testing to prioritize

> what

> to do first. He says that you have to start with only what the body

> can

> handle and what is most holding it back. The muscle testing has been

> consistant with my experiences tolerance. He explained that if you

> throw

> supplements at problems your body is not read to solve then you waste

> time

> and can feel worse. We'll see if this approach works. It has to go

> faster

> because I cannot go on without working year after year.

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various

>

> organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't

> help

> me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they

> made

> me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though.

> Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the

> chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to

> nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate

> various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional

> Chinese

> Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire

> with

> gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work

> that

> over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body.

>

> Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe

> my

> body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet.

> Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx

> have

> disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well

> enough

> to have kids though.

>

> Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know what I experienced and

> learned.

>

> Tracey

>

>

>

> rockford5@... wrote:

>

> > In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > bmfb@... writes:

> >

> >

> > > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is

> the

> > first

> > > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains

>

> > (which I

> > > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian

> as

> > a child

> > > that damaged the pancreas.

> > >

> > > I have not been given the full program yet but two things

> related to

> >

> > > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive

>

> > enzyme,

> > > and

> > > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas.

> > >

> > > I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas.

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > ,

> >

> > Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it

> rebuilds

> > pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a

> > digestive

> > enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole

> > Desicated

> > Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol.

> > I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments.

>

> > I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed,

> but I

> > found

> > it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its

> heated

> > and

> > processed...

> >

> > Don

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Nil,

I went on the Elimination diet. For me, I already knew that I do well

on the Candita diet but then I was able to identify even more foods I

was having problems with. I used a protein shake called Ultra Clear for

8 months too. I took probiotics and herbs (Chinese) and supplements. I

use Keto Slim (for low-carb diets) and Cytomax now to replace

electrolites. I put it all in a smoothie in the morning along with soy

milk and Spirulina which magnetically attracts and traps pylori and

other bacteria and sweeps them out of the system as well as providing

many nutrients. I eat mostly organic foods but they are more

expensive, especially meats.

I get acupuncture and massage. I went to a Sports Therapist for some of

the most intense detoxifying massages I've ever had. It even made large

football players swear! I also get more gentle massages. I did castor

oil packs but I don't think they did much. I also do Chi Gung and Yoga

which really help the body detox. Gentle twists help organs detox by

squeezing them for instance. And I used standing meditation.

To me, detoxing is more about what you don't put into the body than what

you do. Just by eliminating offending foods and substances, your body

will automatically begin cleansing itself, so it doesn't have to be

really complicated or expensive.

Tracey

Yildiz wrote:

> Tracey,

>

> What do you do to detox gentlly?

> Thanks.

> Nil

> Re: Pancreas

>

>

> |

> | Hi ,

> |

> | Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various

>

> | organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't

> help

> | me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they

> made

> | me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though.

> | Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the

> | chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to

> | nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate

> | various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional

> Chinese

> | Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire

> with

> | gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work

> that

> | over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body.

> |

> | Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe

> my

> | body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet.

> | Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx

> have

> | disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well

> enough

> | to have kids though.

>

>

>

>

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Tracey,

I know about Chi Gung and have had lessons. It's not worth it to me.

My big problem is sleep. Often only 5 hours at at a time and then I have

to sleep in the afternoon to make up for it and miss events I should be

attending. Sometimes I have to push through a whole day on 4 hours to make

social and business appointments I cannot miss. I am strong enough to do

this but am sometimes out of it, but it takes energy from healing. My sleep

and muscle strength is not improving. My brain is better and my digestion is

too. In many ways I am a lot better but the timeline is still totally

unrealistic.

Hi ,

Four years is a good long time! It sounds like the guy you're working

with knows what he's doing too. Another thing that can help organs is

Chi Gung. It's a healing form of Tai Chi. It has helped me alot.

Every morning I do " 6 Exhaling Chi Gung " before I get out of bed. And

I've taken a class for Chi Gung and meditation that has been really good

for me. Meditation can also help you're organs and whole body.

Tracey

BMFB wrote:

>

> Hello Tracey,

>

> What you say makes sense. I have done gentle detoxing for four

> years. The

> system of diagnoses (seemorgmatrix) uses muscle testing to prioritize

> what

> to do first. He says that you have to start with only what the body

> can

> handle and what is most holding it back. The muscle testing has been

> consistant with my experiences tolerance. He explained that if you

> throw

> supplements at problems your body is not read to solve then you waste

> time

> and can feel worse. We'll see if this approach works. It has to go

> faster

> because I cannot go on without working year after year.

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various

>

> organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't

> help

> me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they

> made

> me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though.

> Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the

> chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to

> nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate

> various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional

> Chinese

> Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire

> with

> gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work

> that

> over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body.

>

> Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe

> my

> body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet.

> Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx

> have

> disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well

> enough

> to have kids though.

>

> Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know what I experienced and

> learned.

>

> Tracey

>

>

>

> rockford5@... wrote:

>

> > In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > bmfb@... writes:

> >

> >

> > > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is

> the

> > first

> > > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains

>

> > (which I

> > > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian

> as

> > a child

> > > that damaged the pancreas.

> > >

> > > I have not been given the full program yet but two things

> related to

> >

> > > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive

>

> > enzyme,

> > > and

> > > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas.

> > >

> > > I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas.

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > ,

> >

> > Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it

> rebuilds

> > pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a

> > digestive

> > enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole

> > Desicated

> > Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol.

> > I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments.

>

> > I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed,

> but I

> > found

> > it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its

> heated

> > and

> > processed...

> >

> > Don

> >

> >

> >

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,

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Even when we're so diligent with

diet and such this dd takes us for a ride and is in control. It's

frustrating. I am sorry to hear you're having trouble sleeping. the

only way I can get enough is to sleep in late every day and even that

doesn't always work. Kind of like I can be eating perfectly and my

digestion still flips out. I think what we is stronger than anything we

can throw at it.

Tracey

BMFB wrote:

>

> Tracey,

>

> I know about Chi Gung and have had lessons. It's not worth it to me.

>

> My big problem is sleep. Often only 5 hours at at a time and then I

> have

> to sleep in the afternoon to make up for it and miss events I should

> be

> attending. Sometimes I have to push through a whole day on 4 hours to

> make

> social and business appointments I cannot miss. I am strong enough to

> do

> this but am sometimes out of it, but it takes energy from healing. My

> sleep

> and muscle strength is not improving. My brain is better and my

> digestion is

> too. In many ways I am a lot better but the timeline is still totally

> unrealistic.

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi ,

> Four years is a good long time! It sounds like the guy you're

> working

> with knows what he's doing too. Another thing that can help organs

> is

> Chi Gung. It's a healing form of Tai Chi. It has helped me alot.

> Every morning I do " 6 Exhaling Chi Gung " before I get out of bed.

> And

> I've taken a class for Chi Gung and meditation that has been really

> good

> for me. Meditation can also help you're organs and whole body.

>

> Tracey

>

>

>

>

>

>

> BMFB wrote:

>

> >

> > Hello Tracey,

> >

> > What you say makes sense. I have done gentle detoxing for four

> > years. The

> > system of diagnoses (seemorgmatrix) uses muscle testing to

> prioritize

> > what

> > to do first. He says that you have to start with only what the

> body

> > can

> > handle and what is most holding it back. The muscle testing has

> been

> > consistant with my experiences tolerance. He explained that if you

>

> > throw

> > supplements at problems your body is not read to solve then you

> waste

> > time

> > and can feel worse. We'll see if this approach works. It has to go

>

> > faster

> > because I cannot go on without working year after year.

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for

> various

> >

> > organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They

> didn't

> > help

> > me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if

> they

> > made

> > me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though.

> > Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through

> the

> > chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next

> to

> > nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products

> stimulate

> > various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional

> > Chinese

> > Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out

> fire

> > with

> > gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to

> work

> > that

> > over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the

> body.

> >

> > Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I

> believe

> > my

> > body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the

> diet.

> > Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my

> sx

> > have

> > disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not

> well

> > enough

> > to have kids though.

> >

> > Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know what I experienced and

> > learned.

> >

> > Tracey

> >

> >

> >

> > rockford5@... wrote:

> >

> > > In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight

> Time,

> > > bmfb@... writes:

> > >

> > >

> > > > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that

> is

> > the

> > > first

> > > > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to

> grains

> >

> > > (which I

> > > > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of

> penicillian

> > as

> > > a child

> > > > that damaged the pancreas.

> > > >

> > > > I have not been given the full program yet but two things

> > related to

> > >

> > > > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a

> digestive

> >

> > > enzyme,

> > > > and

> > > > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas.

> > > >

> > > > I am wondering what other people have done to help the

> pancreas.

> >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it

> > rebuilds

> > > pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a

>

> > > digestive

> > > enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also

> Whole

> > > Desicated

> > > Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol.

> > > I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no

> suppliments.

> >

> > > I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and

> processed,

> > but I

> > > found

> > > it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its

>

> > heated

> > > and

> > > processed...

> > >

> > > Don

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear ,

I have experienced worsening by detoxifying as you have written. You

mentioned muscle testing as a way to know what to detoxify first. Do you

mean kinesiology? If not, what method of muscle testing?

Thanks,

Arlene

> Message: 14

> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:43:41 -0700

> From: BMFB <bmfb@...>

> Subject: RE: Pancreas

>

>

> Hello Tracey,

>

> What you say makes sense. I have done gentle detoxing for four years.

The

> system of diagnoses (seemorgmatrix) uses muscle testing to prioritize what

> to do first. He says that you have to start with only what the body can

> handle and what is most holding it back. The muscle testing has been

> consistant with my experiences tolerance. He explained that if you throw

> supplements at problems your body is not read to solve then you waste time

> and can feel worse. We'll see if this approach works. It has to go faster

> because I cannot go on without working year after year.

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various

> organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't help

> me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they made

> me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though.

> Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the

> chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to

> nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate

> various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional Chinese

> Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire with

> gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work that

> over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body.

>

> Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe my

> body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet.

> Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx have

> disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well enough

> to have kids though.

>

> Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know what I experienced and learned.

>

> Tracey

>

>

>

> rockford5@... wrote:

>

> > In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > bmfb@... writes:

> >

> >

> > > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is the

> > first

> > > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains

> > (which I

> > > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian as

> > a child

> > > that damaged the pancreas.

> > >

> > > I have not been given the full program yet but two things related to

> >

> > > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive

> > enzyme,

> > > and

> > > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas.

> > >

> > > I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > ,

> >

> > Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it rebuilds

> > pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a

> > digestive

> > enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole

> > Desicated

> > Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol.

> > I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments.

> > I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed, but I

> > found

> > it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its heated

> > and

> > processed...

> >

> > Don

> >

> >

> >

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I appreciate your ponderings, Tina! I saved that link & when I have time, I will

explore this further. Wasn't thyrodine in that supplement to support adrenals??

I think it was. Well, thanks again...I've gotta get ready for work in about 15

min. Take care! Hugs, Sheila

tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote:http://www.myvitanet.com/panglan1.html

I was thinking about the glandular system and all the glands become

weaken when one of them is not working properly--or diseased.

Thyrodine contains many of the glanudlars so all the glands get some

support when a person is having weakened adrenals/thyroid.

and I've been thinking about this for awhile now as well as the liver

and kidneys.

So maybe Shelia taking pancreatic enzymes or glandulars is a good

idea?? to help the pancreas not weaken more and you becomming

diabetic??

If anything at all digestive enzymes would help with digestion and

not tax the pancreas so much?? or glandulars would offer some support

or even possible slow down the destruction of the pancreas so the

time frame for getting diabetes is reduced??

I really don't know I am just thinking and wondering about all of

this. It seems all these glands fail to some extent when one of them

does.

have to run---something to ponder---tina

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pancreas

> how does one test the pancreas to know for sure if it is working properly

>

> (without standard blood tests)

Arthur,

As a certified VoiceBio practitioner, I suggest VoiceBio, a way of determining

what's happening in the body by analyzing the voice.

Every cell, organ, gland, tissue, bone in the body contains a weak

electromagnetic field. This can be translated into sound. Since the voice

reflects everything that's going on in the body, it can be analyzed.

The person speaks into a microphone connected to software, which analyzes the

voice to find weak, missing or absent tones in the voice. The notes that are

high or low, and the combination of notes that are high or low, provide a

picture of what's going on in the body.

The same software that analyzes voice samples can also be used to develop sound

formulas. These sound formulas feed the missing or weak tones to the body, thus

helping it to heal. In lieu of using a tone box, once you know which note(s)

you're missing or are weak in, you can listen to, or hum/sing the missing notes.

We are not allowed to say (or perform anything that resembles) " diagnose, "

" treat, " or " prescribe, " but I use this modality almost exclusively to determine

what's going on in my body. (I just discovered a pancreatic disorder in someone

who then told me that his mother had died of the same.)

I also use VoiceBio to determine which supplements I need. You can do this

because every element (and thus nutrient and drug) has its own resonant tone.

Knowing this, you can support a weak note by feeding it a nutrient that

resonates in that note. Similarly, you can avoid stressing an already high note

by not feeding it a nutrient that resonates in that note.

This modality must be done in person, since many of the voice harmonics are lost

via tapes or telephone. The naturopath who developed this system has a firm

grounding in science, biology and physiology, something I find missing with

other " sound " modalities. Unfortunately, due to legal constraints, I cannot

expand further on how great this modality is. See http://www.voicebio.com for

more information.

Sincerely,

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD

http://www.nenahsylver.com

* The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing

* The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

* products and services for wellness

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Nenah, I like the idea but is the only way to access this through various

practitioners? The public can't purchase it or utilize it for themselves?

Obie.

_____

From: oxyplus [mailto:oxyplus ] On Behalf Of

Nenah Sylver

Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:15 AM

oxyplus

Subject: Re: pancreas

pancreas

> how does one test the pancreas to know for sure if it is working properly

>

> (without standard blood tests)

Arthur,

As a certified VoiceBio practitioner, I suggest VoiceBio, a way of

determining what's happening in the body by analyzing the voice.

Every cell, organ, gland, tissue, bone in the body contains a weak

electromagnetic field. This can be translated into sound. Since the voice

reflects everything that's going on in the body, it can be analyzed.

The person speaks into a microphone connected to software, which analyzes

the voice to find weak, missing or absent tones in the voice. The notes that

are high or low, and the combination of notes that are high or low, provide

a picture of what's going on in the body.

The same software that analyzes voice samples can also be used to develop

sound formulas. These sound formulas feed the missing or weak tones to the

body, thus helping it to heal. In lieu of using a tone box, once you know

which note(s) you're missing or are weak in, you can listen to, or hum/sing

the missing notes.

We are not allowed to say (or perform anything that resembles) " diagnose, "

" treat, " or " prescribe, " but I use this modality almost exclusively to

determine what's going on in my body. (I just discovered a pancreatic

disorder in someone who then told me that his mother had died of the same.)

I also use VoiceBio to determine which supplements I need. You can do this

because every element (and thus nutrient and drug) has its own resonant

tone. Knowing this, you can support a weak note by feeding it a nutrient

that resonates in that note. Similarly, you can avoid stressing an already

high note by not feeding it a nutrient that resonates in that note.

This modality must be done in person, since many of the voice harmonics are

lost via tapes or telephone. The naturopath who developed this system has a

firm grounding in science, biology and physiology, something I find missing

with other " sound " modalities. Unfortunately, due to legal constraints, I

cannot expand further on how great this modality is. See

http://www.voicebio.com for more information.

Sincerely,

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD

http://www.nenahsylver.com

* The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing

* The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

* products and services for wellness

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Morning dear readers,

Does LDN also help out with / for pancreatic (pancreas) problems, such as inflammation in dethe pancreas (pancreatitis?) ?

Thanks and regards,

Joris

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