Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 - What tests did they perform to confirm a weak pancreas? Also, what symptoms are you experiencing that indicate a weak pancreas? Thanks Kathy Pancreas > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is the first > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains (which I > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian as a child > that damaged the pancreas. > > I have not been given the full program yet but two things related to > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive enzyme, and > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas. > > I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 I think having weak pancreas is part of the illness,especially at later stages. I have the same problems. I have tried Pancreas complex by Profesional Health products. Contains some vitamins.minerals,pancreatin,pancreas tissue and some herbs.I am not sure if I tolerated it well. I have stopped using it for the time being. I will retry later. Take care. Nil Pancreas | I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is the first | priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains (which I | don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian as a child | that damaged the pancreas. | | I have not been given the full program yet but two things related to | pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive enzyme, and | Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas. | | I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas. | | | | | | This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bmfb@... writes: > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is the first > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains (which I > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian as a child > that damaged the pancreas. > > I have not been given the full program yet but two things related to > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive enzyme, > and > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas. > > I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas. > > > > , Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it rebuilds pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a digestive enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole Desicated Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol. I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments. I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed, but I found it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its heated and processed... Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 Hi , Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't help me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they made me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though. Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire with gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work that over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body. Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe my body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet. Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx have disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well enough to have kids though. Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know what I experienced and learned. Tracey rockford5@... wrote: > In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > bmfb@... writes: > > > > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is the > first > > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains > (which I > > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian as > a child > > that damaged the pancreas. > > > > I have not been given the full program yet but two things related to > > > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive > enzyme, > > and > > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas. > > > > I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas. > > > > > > > > > > , > > Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it rebuilds > pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a > digestive > enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole > Desicated > Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol. > I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments. > I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed, but I > found > it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its heated > and > processed... > > Don > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 Don, Thanks, I'm glad to hear it was a success with you. I just saw my doc and he explained that the Zymex will help detox penicilan residue anywhere in the body, and that is one thing that hit the pancreas hard. Zypan I knew was for digestion and has pancreatin. He gave me a combination glandular in protomorphigen form--those are special cells to regenerate tissue. We tested the others you mentioned and I did not want them. I have whole raw spleen already from Primezyme. I also just got fresh buffalo pancreas today! Are you on the primal diet with raw animal foods? I don't care what Aajonus Vonderplanitz says, I know that some supplements can help and I need much more than his diet. BTW, his new book came out this week. So where are you at in your healing process? I have make lots of progress but have a long way to go. > , Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it rebuilds pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a digestive enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole Desicated Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol. I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments. I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed, but I found it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its heated and processed... Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 Hello Tracey, What you say makes sense. I have done gentle detoxing for four years. The system of diagnoses (seemorgmatrix) uses muscle testing to prioritize what to do first. He says that you have to start with only what the body can handle and what is most holding it back. The muscle testing has been consistant with my experiences tolerance. He explained that if you throw supplements at problems your body is not read to solve then you waste time and can feel worse. We'll see if this approach works. It has to go faster because I cannot go on without working year after year. Hi , Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't help me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they made me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though. Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire with gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work that over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body. Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe my body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet. Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx have disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well enough to have kids though. Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know what I experienced and learned. Tracey rockford5@... wrote: > In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > bmfb@... writes: > > > > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is the > first > > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains > (which I > > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian as > a child > > that damaged the pancreas. > > > > I have not been given the full program yet but two things related to > > > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive > enzyme, > > and > > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas. > > > > I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas. > > > > > > > > > > , > > Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it rebuilds > pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a > digestive > enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole > Desicated > Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol. > I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments. > I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed, but I > found > it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its heated > and > processed... > > Don > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 Tracey, What do you do to detox gentlly? Thanks. Nil Re: Pancreas | | Hi , | | Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various | organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't help | me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they made | me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though. | Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the | chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to | nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate | various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional Chinese | Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire with | gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work that | over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body. | | Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe my | body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet. | Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx have | disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well enough | to have kids though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 Hi , Four years is a good long time! It sounds like the guy you're working with knows what he's doing too. Another thing that can help organs is Chi Gung. It's a healing form of Tai Chi. It has helped me alot. Every morning I do " 6 Exhaling Chi Gung " before I get out of bed. And I've taken a class for Chi Gung and meditation that has been really good for me. Meditation can also help you're organs and whole body. Tracey BMFB wrote: > > Hello Tracey, > > What you say makes sense. I have done gentle detoxing for four > years. The > system of diagnoses (seemorgmatrix) uses muscle testing to prioritize > what > to do first. He says that you have to start with only what the body > can > handle and what is most holding it back. The muscle testing has been > consistant with my experiences tolerance. He explained that if you > throw > supplements at problems your body is not read to solve then you waste > time > and can feel worse. We'll see if this approach works. It has to go > faster > because I cannot go on without working year after year. > > > > Hi , > > Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various > > organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't > help > me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they > made > me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though. > Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the > chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to > nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate > various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional > Chinese > Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire > with > gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work > that > over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body. > > Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe > my > body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet. > Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx > have > disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well > enough > to have kids though. > > Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know what I experienced and > learned. > > Tracey > > > > rockford5@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > bmfb@... writes: > > > > > > > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is > the > > first > > > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains > > > (which I > > > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian > as > > a child > > > that damaged the pancreas. > > > > > > I have not been given the full program yet but two things > related to > > > > > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive > > > enzyme, > > > and > > > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas. > > > > > > I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it > rebuilds > > pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a > > digestive > > enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole > > Desicated > > Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol. > > I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments. > > > I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed, > but I > > found > > it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its > heated > > and > > processed... > > > > Don > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 Hi Nil, I went on the Elimination diet. For me, I already knew that I do well on the Candita diet but then I was able to identify even more foods I was having problems with. I used a protein shake called Ultra Clear for 8 months too. I took probiotics and herbs (Chinese) and supplements. I use Keto Slim (for low-carb diets) and Cytomax now to replace electrolites. I put it all in a smoothie in the morning along with soy milk and Spirulina which magnetically attracts and traps pylori and other bacteria and sweeps them out of the system as well as providing many nutrients. I eat mostly organic foods but they are more expensive, especially meats. I get acupuncture and massage. I went to a Sports Therapist for some of the most intense detoxifying massages I've ever had. It even made large football players swear! I also get more gentle massages. I did castor oil packs but I don't think they did much. I also do Chi Gung and Yoga which really help the body detox. Gentle twists help organs detox by squeezing them for instance. And I used standing meditation. To me, detoxing is more about what you don't put into the body than what you do. Just by eliminating offending foods and substances, your body will automatically begin cleansing itself, so it doesn't have to be really complicated or expensive. Tracey Yildiz wrote: > Tracey, > > What do you do to detox gentlly? > Thanks. > Nil > Re: Pancreas > > > | > | Hi , > | > | Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various > > | organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't > help > | me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they > made > | me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though. > | Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the > | chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to > | nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate > | various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional > Chinese > | Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire > with > | gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work > that > | over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body. > | > | Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe > my > | body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet. > | Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx > have > | disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well > enough > | to have kids though. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 Tracey, I know about Chi Gung and have had lessons. It's not worth it to me. My big problem is sleep. Often only 5 hours at at a time and then I have to sleep in the afternoon to make up for it and miss events I should be attending. Sometimes I have to push through a whole day on 4 hours to make social and business appointments I cannot miss. I am strong enough to do this but am sometimes out of it, but it takes energy from healing. My sleep and muscle strength is not improving. My brain is better and my digestion is too. In many ways I am a lot better but the timeline is still totally unrealistic. Hi , Four years is a good long time! It sounds like the guy you're working with knows what he's doing too. Another thing that can help organs is Chi Gung. It's a healing form of Tai Chi. It has helped me alot. Every morning I do " 6 Exhaling Chi Gung " before I get out of bed. And I've taken a class for Chi Gung and meditation that has been really good for me. Meditation can also help you're organs and whole body. Tracey BMFB wrote: > > Hello Tracey, > > What you say makes sense. I have done gentle detoxing for four > years. The > system of diagnoses (seemorgmatrix) uses muscle testing to prioritize > what > to do first. He says that you have to start with only what the body > can > handle and what is most holding it back. The muscle testing has been > consistant with my experiences tolerance. He explained that if you > throw > supplements at problems your body is not read to solve then you waste > time > and can feel worse. We'll see if this approach works. It has to go > faster > because I cannot go on without working year after year. > > > > Hi , > > Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various > > organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't > help > me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they > made > me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though. > Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the > chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to > nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate > various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional > Chinese > Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire > with > gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work > that > over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body. > > Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe > my > body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet. > Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx > have > disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well > enough > to have kids though. > > Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know what I experienced and > learned. > > Tracey > > > > rockford5@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > bmfb@... writes: > > > > > > > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is > the > > first > > > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains > > > (which I > > > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian > as > > a child > > > that damaged the pancreas. > > > > > > I have not been given the full program yet but two things > related to > > > > > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive > > > enzyme, > > > and > > > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas. > > > > > > I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it > rebuilds > > pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a > > digestive > > enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole > > Desicated > > Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol. > > I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments. > > > I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed, > but I > > found > > it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its > heated > > and > > processed... > > > > Don > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 , Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Even when we're so diligent with diet and such this dd takes us for a ride and is in control. It's frustrating. I am sorry to hear you're having trouble sleeping. the only way I can get enough is to sleep in late every day and even that doesn't always work. Kind of like I can be eating perfectly and my digestion still flips out. I think what we is stronger than anything we can throw at it. Tracey BMFB wrote: > > Tracey, > > I know about Chi Gung and have had lessons. It's not worth it to me. > > My big problem is sleep. Often only 5 hours at at a time and then I > have > to sleep in the afternoon to make up for it and miss events I should > be > attending. Sometimes I have to push through a whole day on 4 hours to > make > social and business appointments I cannot miss. I am strong enough to > do > this but am sometimes out of it, but it takes energy from healing. My > sleep > and muscle strength is not improving. My brain is better and my > digestion is > too. In many ways I am a lot better but the timeline is still totally > unrealistic. > > > > > > Hi , > Four years is a good long time! It sounds like the guy you're > working > with knows what he's doing too. Another thing that can help organs > is > Chi Gung. It's a healing form of Tai Chi. It has helped me alot. > Every morning I do " 6 Exhaling Chi Gung " before I get out of bed. > And > I've taken a class for Chi Gung and meditation that has been really > good > for me. Meditation can also help you're organs and whole body. > > Tracey > > > > > > > BMFB wrote: > > > > > Hello Tracey, > > > > What you say makes sense. I have done gentle detoxing for four > > years. The > > system of diagnoses (seemorgmatrix) uses muscle testing to > prioritize > > what > > to do first. He says that you have to start with only what the > body > > can > > handle and what is most holding it back. The muscle testing has > been > > consistant with my experiences tolerance. He explained that if you > > > throw > > supplements at problems your body is not read to solve then you > waste > > time > > and can feel worse. We'll see if this approach works. It has to go > > > faster > > because I cannot go on without working year after year. > > > > > > > > Hi , > > > > Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for > various > > > > organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They > didn't > > help > > me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if > they > > made > > me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though. > > Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through > the > > chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next > to > > nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products > stimulate > > various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional > > Chinese > > Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out > fire > > with > > gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to > work > > that > > over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the > body. > > > > Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I > believe > > my > > body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the > diet. > > Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my > sx > > have > > disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not > well > > enough > > to have kids though. > > > > Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know what I experienced and > > learned. > > > > Tracey > > > > > > > > rockford5@... wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight > Time, > > > bmfb@... writes: > > > > > > > > > > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that > is > > the > > > first > > > > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to > grains > > > > > (which I > > > > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of > penicillian > > as > > > a child > > > > that damaged the pancreas. > > > > > > > > I have not been given the full program yet but two things > > related to > > > > > > > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a > digestive > > > > > enzyme, > > > > and > > > > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas. > > > > > > > > I am wondering what other people have done to help the > pancreas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it > > rebuilds > > > pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a > > > > digestive > > > enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also > Whole > > > Desicated > > > Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol. > > > I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no > suppliments. > > > > > I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and > processed, > > but I > > > found > > > it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its > > > heated > > > and > > > processed... > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 Dear , I have experienced worsening by detoxifying as you have written. You mentioned muscle testing as a way to know what to detoxify first. Do you mean kinesiology? If not, what method of muscle testing? Thanks, Arlene > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:43:41 -0700 > From: BMFB <bmfb@...> > Subject: RE: Pancreas > > > Hello Tracey, > > What you say makes sense. I have done gentle detoxing for four years. The > system of diagnoses (seemorgmatrix) uses muscle testing to prioritize what > to do first. He says that you have to start with only what the body can > handle and what is most holding it back. The muscle testing has been > consistant with my experiences tolerance. He explained that if you throw > supplements at problems your body is not read to solve then you waste time > and can feel worse. We'll see if this approach works. It has to go faster > because I cannot go on without working year after year. > > > > Hi , > > Just wanted to let you know that I used Standard Process for various > organs for months diligently for 8 months 2 years ago. They didn't help > me and they were giing me too much vitamin A. I don't know if they made > me sicker or not though, I was much more sick then though. > Then I started finding out that Standard Process sells through the > chiropractors in my town and the ones I've spoken to know next to > nothing about CFIDS and Fibro. Standard Process products stimulate > various organs. I had it explained to me by a TCM (Traditional Chinese > Medicine) doctor that these supplements were like putting out fire with > gasoline if you haven't detoxed first. They force organs to work that > over taxed already and they cause alot of extra heat in the body. > > Gentle detoxing is the best way to help your organs heal. I believe my > body is still detoxing actually because I have stayed on the diet. > Gentle detoxing still is very gruelling at first but some of my sx have > disappeared and I'm alot better than I was 2 years ago. Not well enough > to have kids though. > > Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know what I experienced and learned. > > Tracey > > > > rockford5@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 9/24/2002 9:09:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > bmfb@... writes: > > > > > > > I have been diagnosed with having a very weak pancreas that is the > > first > > > priority in my healing process. Two causes are allergy to grains > > (which I > > > don't eat) and penicillan. I suffered an overdose of penicillian as > > a child > > > that damaged the pancreas. > > > > > > I have not been given the full program yet but two things related to > > > > > pancreas are the Standard Process supplements Zypan, a digestive > > enzyme, > > > and > > > Zymex, I don't know how it relates to the pancreas. > > > > > > I am wondering what other people have done to help the pancreas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > Standard Process has a product called Pancretropian PMG, it rebuilds > > pancreas tissue... Zypan is Hydrocloride Acid, and zymex is a > > digestive > > enzyme... You will find Pancretrophin PMG very helpful also Whole > > Desicated > > Spleen and Spleen PMG should be part of the protocol. > > I thought AV only prescribed whole live raw... and no suppliments. > > I must say Standard Process is whole, but heated and processed, but I > > found > > it to be extremely helpful, simply put, it works, although its heated > > and > > processed... > > > > Don > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 I appreciate your ponderings, Tina! I saved that link & when I have time, I will explore this further. Wasn't thyrodine in that supplement to support adrenals?? I think it was. Well, thanks again...I've gotta get ready for work in about 15 min. Take care! Hugs, Sheila tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote:http://www.myvitanet.com/panglan1.html I was thinking about the glandular system and all the glands become weaken when one of them is not working properly--or diseased. Thyrodine contains many of the glanudlars so all the glands get some support when a person is having weakened adrenals/thyroid. and I've been thinking about this for awhile now as well as the liver and kidneys. So maybe Shelia taking pancreatic enzymes or glandulars is a good idea?? to help the pancreas not weaken more and you becomming diabetic?? If anything at all digestive enzymes would help with digestion and not tax the pancreas so much?? or glandulars would offer some support or even possible slow down the destruction of the pancreas so the time frame for getting diabetes is reduced?? I really don't know I am just thinking and wondering about all of this. It seems all these glands fail to some extent when one of them does. have to run---something to ponder---tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 pancreas > how does one test the pancreas to know for sure if it is working properly > > (without standard blood tests) Arthur, As a certified VoiceBio practitioner, I suggest VoiceBio, a way of determining what's happening in the body by analyzing the voice. Every cell, organ, gland, tissue, bone in the body contains a weak electromagnetic field. This can be translated into sound. Since the voice reflects everything that's going on in the body, it can be analyzed. The person speaks into a microphone connected to software, which analyzes the voice to find weak, missing or absent tones in the voice. The notes that are high or low, and the combination of notes that are high or low, provide a picture of what's going on in the body. The same software that analyzes voice samples can also be used to develop sound formulas. These sound formulas feed the missing or weak tones to the body, thus helping it to heal. In lieu of using a tone box, once you know which note(s) you're missing or are weak in, you can listen to, or hum/sing the missing notes. We are not allowed to say (or perform anything that resembles) " diagnose, " " treat, " or " prescribe, " but I use this modality almost exclusively to determine what's going on in my body. (I just discovered a pancreatic disorder in someone who then told me that his mother had died of the same.) I also use VoiceBio to determine which supplements I need. You can do this because every element (and thus nutrient and drug) has its own resonant tone. Knowing this, you can support a weak note by feeding it a nutrient that resonates in that note. Similarly, you can avoid stressing an already high note by not feeding it a nutrient that resonates in that note. This modality must be done in person, since many of the voice harmonics are lost via tapes or telephone. The naturopath who developed this system has a firm grounding in science, biology and physiology, something I find missing with other " sound " modalities. Unfortunately, due to legal constraints, I cannot expand further on how great this modality is. See http://www.voicebio.com for more information. Sincerely, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Nenah, I like the idea but is the only way to access this through various practitioners? The public can't purchase it or utilize it for themselves? Obie. _____ From: oxyplus [mailto:oxyplus ] On Behalf Of Nenah Sylver Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:15 AM oxyplus Subject: Re: pancreas pancreas > how does one test the pancreas to know for sure if it is working properly > > (without standard blood tests) Arthur, As a certified VoiceBio practitioner, I suggest VoiceBio, a way of determining what's happening in the body by analyzing the voice. Every cell, organ, gland, tissue, bone in the body contains a weak electromagnetic field. This can be translated into sound. Since the voice reflects everything that's going on in the body, it can be analyzed. The person speaks into a microphone connected to software, which analyzes the voice to find weak, missing or absent tones in the voice. The notes that are high or low, and the combination of notes that are high or low, provide a picture of what's going on in the body. The same software that analyzes voice samples can also be used to develop sound formulas. These sound formulas feed the missing or weak tones to the body, thus helping it to heal. In lieu of using a tone box, once you know which note(s) you're missing or are weak in, you can listen to, or hum/sing the missing notes. We are not allowed to say (or perform anything that resembles) " diagnose, " " treat, " or " prescribe, " but I use this modality almost exclusively to determine what's going on in my body. (I just discovered a pancreatic disorder in someone who then told me that his mother had died of the same.) I also use VoiceBio to determine which supplements I need. You can do this because every element (and thus nutrient and drug) has its own resonant tone. Knowing this, you can support a weak note by feeding it a nutrient that resonates in that note. Similarly, you can avoid stressing an already high note by not feeding it a nutrient that resonates in that note. This modality must be done in person, since many of the voice harmonics are lost via tapes or telephone. The naturopath who developed this system has a firm grounding in science, biology and physiology, something I find missing with other " sound " modalities. Unfortunately, due to legal constraints, I cannot expand further on how great this modality is. See http://www.voicebio.com for more information. Sincerely, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy * products and services for wellness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Morning dear readers, Does LDN also help out with / for pancreatic (pancreas) problems, such as inflammation in dethe pancreas (pancreatitis?) ? Thanks and regards, Joris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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