Guest guest Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Does anyone get much sicker with a stuffy head and extreme body aches when it's avout to rain outside, or when it is raining outside, even if you stay in the house? I'm trying to figure out if these are Lyme symptoms or something else? Thanks . Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Yes, I have. On the right side is where the liver is, so I write it off to liver overwork. > > Hi, everyone! Has anyone had a symptom of clenching or gripping feeling in the upper abdominal muscles with Lyme? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 yes, and it feels like i have been hit. and then it stops and then feels like i have been hit again. very weird. ~dory From: klcwd <klcwd@...> Subject: [ ] Lyme symptom? Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 9:39 AM Â Hi, everyone! Has anyone had a symptom of clenching or gripping feeling in the upper abdominal muscles with Lyme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Hi Deborah, Have you ever seen or heard of a patient with a paralyzed diaphragm? Thanks, Dixie On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Deborah Cartwright Saxe < cartwrightsaxe@...> wrote: > > > I also had that symptom frequently in the 15 -20 years I was sick before > starting treatment for Lyme in 2007 . Until I read your letter, I never > even considered that it was related to Lyme! Like all TBD symptoms it was > so > very mysterious. > > I work for a LL ND and so will let him know that we should add it to the > symptoms list. Thank you > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Judy Gray <judygray@...<judygray%40hughes.net>> > wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, this is the first I've heard or read it described and I > > find myself wondering about the liver, pancreas, spleen > > and diaphragm. Any info? Thank you so very much for > > sharing. You describe it very well. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Liese <liesesue@...<liesesue%40> > <liesesue%40>> > > > wrote: > > > > > yes, and it feels like i have been hit. and then it stops and then > feels > > like i have been hit again. very weird. > > > ~dory > > > > > > > > > > > > From: klcwd <klcwd@... <klcwd%40hotmail.com> <klcwd% > 40hotmail.com>> > > > > Subject: [ ] Lyme symptom? > > > To: < %40><Lyme_Aid_Buhn\ er% > 40> > > > > Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 9:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, everyone! Has anyone had a symptom of clenching or gripping feeling > > in the upper abdominal muscles with Lyme? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 HI I have had terrible liver, spleen, pain for years. I just found out my liver, pancreas, kidneys and spleen are not functioning well. I was on medication for pain for 6.5 years and have suffered with this pain for 3 years since getting off all medication. I just began Buhner and homeopathic treatment for lyme this Jan.. Any info on these matters would be appreciated. Healing & Love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 for me i think it is abdominal muscle spasms. ~dory From: Judy Gray <judygray@...> Subject: Re: [ ] Lyme symptom? " " < > Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 9:23 PM Yes, this is the first I've heard or read it described and I find myself wondering about the liver, pancreas, spleen and diaphragm. Any info? Thank you so very much for sharing. You describe it very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 I think mine is abdominal muscles, too. ---> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Makes sense. Seems like abd. tensing occurred after coffee enema and the 2 rife cleansing sessions I received on a friends global wellness machine. The first rife cleanse brought immense overnight relief of sxs. This was followed by a Reiki session the next day which produced a lot of liquid drainage from the eyes with clearer vision and reduction in floaters, head buzzing and ear ringing. Response lasted nearly a week. The 2nd rife response was less profound but still helpful. So trying to decide from which company to purchase a GB4000. Taking a break from supplements/herbals this week to see LLMD tomorrow for more blood work. Had done round of cholestyramine/welchol, then doxy and Zith til early Jan then herbals. Felt terrible on all of it. Rife, CE, and H2O2 hot baths produce more energy and clearing. As a nurse I tried to manage herbals etc but will see homeopath in Mar. As a yogi I also increased breathing techniques which elevate O2 levels which these critters don't like. I've been able to maintain a fairly strong vigorous yoga practice in spite of years of illness but it made me look better than actually was. Just watched " Under Our Skin " . Just as jaw-dropping as Cure Unknown! In hopeful healing. Sent from my iPad On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:41 PM, " klcwd " <klcwd@...> wrote: > I think mine is abdominal muscles, too. > > ---> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 One of the nerves that Lyme can mess with is the vagus nerve that controls the esophagus. THis can cause a number of symptoms including esophogeal spasms, an extremely uncomfortable squeezing feeling in the diaphragm. There was a brief article in the Lyme Times about this a couple years ago, check the CALDA website for article archives. BTW black licorice chews work immediately to stop an esophogeal spasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 HI Dixie! Yes. Plus you can read an article written some time ago by LLMD Virgina M. Sherr, " Bels Palsy of the Gut.. " where she describes the numerous symptoms that can occur along the GI tract including paralyzed muscles from esophagus to diaphram and onward. As I remember she attributed many of these symptoms to the co-infection Bartonella. Even when I read the article I did not make the connection with that symptom I had which is described so well in this thread! Lyme brain. On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:02 PM, dixieleeo tds.net <dixieleeo@...>wrote: > > > Hi Deborah, > Have you ever seen or heard of a patient with a paralyzed diaphragm? > Thanks, > Dixie > > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Deborah Cartwright Saxe < > cartwrightsaxe@... <cartwrightsaxe%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > I also had that symptom frequently in the 15 -20 years I was sick before > > starting treatment for Lyme in 2007 . Until I read your letter, I never > > even considered that it was related to Lyme! Like all TBD symptoms it was > > so > > very mysterious. > > > > I work for a LL ND and so will let him know that we should add it to the > > symptoms list. Thank you > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Judy Gray <judygray@...<judygray%40hughes.net> > <judygray%40hughes.net>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is the first I've heard or read it described and I > > > find myself wondering about the liver, pancreas, spleen > > > and diaphragm. Any info? Thank you so very much for > > > sharing. You describe it very well. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Liese <liesesue@...<liesesue%40> > <liesesue%40> > > <liesesue%40>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > yes, and it feels like i have been hit. and then it stops and then > > feels > > > like i have been hit again. very weird. > > > > ~dory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: klcwd <klcwd@... <klcwd%40hotmail.com> <klcwd% > 40hotmail.com> <klcwd% > > 40hotmail.com>> > > > > > > > Subject: [ ] Lyme symptom? > > > > < %40> > < %40>< % > > 40> > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 9:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, everyone! Has anyone had a symptom of clenching or gripping > feeling > > > in the upper abdominal muscles with Lyme? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I use Red Root tincture to help with mine. Connie Re: [ ] Lyme symptom? HI I have had terrible liver, spleen, pain for years. I just found out my liver, pancreas, kidneys and spleen are not functioning well. I was on medication for pain for 6.5 years and have suffered with this pain for 3 years since getting off all medication. I just began Buhner and homeopathic treatment for lyme this Jan.. Any info on these matters would be appreciated. Healing & Love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Hi Deborah, Thank you so much! Looked it up and it is very interesting and gives me more hope that this is Lyme Disease and not ALS. Hugs, Dixie On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Deborah Cartwright Saxe < cartwrightsaxe@...> wrote: > > > HI Dixie! > > Yes. Plus you can read an article written some time ago by LLMD Virgina M. > Sherr, " Bels Palsy of the Gut.. " where she describes the numerous symptoms > that can occur along the GI tract including paralyzed muscles from > esophagus > to diaphram and onward. As I remember she attributed many of these symptoms > to the co-infection Bartonella. Even when I read the article I did not make > the connection with that symptom I had which is described so well in this > thread! Lyme brain. > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:02 PM, dixieleeo tds.net <dixieleeo@...<dixieleeo%40tds.net> > >wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Deborah, > > Have you ever seen or heard of a patient with a paralyzed diaphragm? > > Thanks, > > Dixie > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Deborah Cartwright Saxe < > > cartwrightsaxe@... <cartwrightsaxe%40gmail.com> <cartwrightsaxe% > 40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I also had that symptom frequently in the 15 -20 years I was sick > before > > > starting treatment for Lyme in 2007 . Until I read your letter, I never > > > even considered that it was related to Lyme! Like all TBD symptoms it > was > > > so > > > very mysterious. > > > > > > I work for a LL ND and so will let him know that we should add it to > the > > > symptoms list. Thank you > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Judy Gray <judygray@...<judygray%40hughes.net> > <judygray%40hughes.net> > > <judygray%40hughes.net>> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is the first I've heard or read it described and I > > > > find myself wondering about the liver, pancreas, spleen > > > > and diaphragm. Any info? Thank you so very much for > > > > sharing. You describe it very well. > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Liese <liesesue@...<liesesue%40> > <liesesue%40> > > <liesesue%40> > > > <liesesue%40>> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > yes, and it feels like i have been hit. and then it stops and then > > > feels > > > > like i have been hit again. very weird. > > > > > ~dory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: klcwd <klcwd@... <klcwd%40hotmail.com> <klcwd% > 40hotmail.com> <klcwd% > > 40hotmail.com> <klcwd% > > > 40hotmail.com>> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [ ] Lyme symptom? > > > > > < %40> > < %40> > > < %40>< % > > > 40> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 9:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, everyone! Has anyone had a symptom of clenching or gripping > > feeling > > > > in the upper abdominal muscles with Lyme? > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Thanks for all the responses everyone. I knew it had to be from the Lyme, because after the first week of Doxy the herx was so bad I had to stop as every cell in my body was screaming and my abdominal muscles were clenching. It was unbearable at first, but now it is a lot milder, thank the Lord! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 There's a lot of good information on my free lyme resource computer CD. Look under the Body folder and see all the subsections. You can get a free copy below. www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - > Re: [ ] Lyme symptom? > > HI > I have had terrible liver, spleen, pain for years. I just > found out my liver, pancreas, kidneys and spleen are not > functioning well. I was on medication for pain for 6.5 years > and have suffered with this pain for 3 years since getting > off all medication. I just began Buhner and homeopathic > treatment for lyme this Jan.. Any info on these matters would > be appreciated. Healing & Love > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Look up ammonia as related to both Lyme and ALS. I thought I read recently that people who cannot detox ammonia develop ALS symptoms as the ammonia buildup kills nerve cells. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_285/ai_n19170382/pg_7/ http://abc.eznettools.net/jernigannutraceuticals/ammonia.html There are products for ammonia detox. Dr Jernigan markets a product for this although not easy to find using google search. Another product people suggest is K Mag Kg by Source Naturals and also Pale Spike Lobelia. deb > > > > > > > > > > > > From: klcwd <klcwd@... <klcwd%40hotmail.com> <klcwd% > > 40hotmail.com> <klcwd% > > > 40hotmail.com> <klcwd% > > > > 40hotmail.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [ ] Lyme symptom? > > > > > > To: < %40> > > < %40> > > > < %40>< % > > > > 40> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 9:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, everyone! Has anyone had a symptom of clenching or gripping > > > feeling > > > > > in the upper abdominal muscles with Lyme? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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